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General => General Banter => Topic started by: kevinmzane on March 12, 2014, 10:00:10 AM

Title: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: kevinmzane on March 12, 2014, 10:00:10 AM
I have been approached a few times lately about lessons on the course and have given a handful of players some one on one time in the past. It is really easy for some of us to give tips to newer players and I know they all really appreciate the help. Unfortunately, a lot of the less experienced players don't have better players to chat with about technique when they go out to the course and not everyone has time to help every single player doing something wrong (nor is it appropriate to give out unsolicited advice).
I know there are several of us in town who excel in certain aspects of the game. Maybe we could get together and do some clinics on league nights or on workdays? I think if we had a guest speaker come to an occasional league or maybe run a program with a beginner league, we could provide some actual incentive to bring up league numbers (and in turn, membership numbers as well as a closer, more familiar DG community in KC).
....thoughts?
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: mpetrin on March 12, 2014, 01:02:38 PM
Paul will be changing up monday night rec leagues a little to help new players or for others to work on different things he wont be focusing on an 18 hole round but what people want to work on and than maybe get a few holes in. If you want to help paul s. Let him or myself know
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: kevinmzane on March 12, 2014, 08:50:26 PM
I'm always willing to help new players, but I think there is another problem concerning long-time casuals and rec/intermediate level players who just can't find a good reason to come to league (or return to league). A lot of the guys I run into on the course seem to have considered the idea of membership, or leagues but feel they don't have anything to gain. They are committed to playing and have a desire to improve, but just don't have the resources.
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: showmeDoug on March 12, 2014, 11:54:52 PM
There is an official workday at Blue Valley on April 5th, if you (Kevin) would give a driving clinic as an incentive to get some new people out to the course - you would be my hero.
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: Timko on March 13, 2014, 09:21:26 AM
I wouldn't mind giving some clinics on Mondays at New Players league.
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: white mccoy on March 13, 2014, 12:04:11 PM
I would be more than happy to help out with any clinics.  Before leagues would be ideal for me.
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: kevinmzane on March 14, 2014, 09:09:07 AM
There is an official workday at Blue Valley on April 5th, if you (Kevin) would give a driving clinic as an incentive to get some new people out to the course - you would be my hero.
Doug, Saturdays are really hard for me but I will see if I can work something out. I am currently signed up for volunteering for a school project that day in the morning.


Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: kevinmzane on March 24, 2014, 11:11:22 AM
I was really hoping for something beyond the beginner level to help rec/int level players step up to competitive league play or tournament play. There is a pretty well-defined line between beginner league and competitive play and a complete absence of any significant aid to transition to the next level for these players.... maybe I just don't see it the same way as most, or maybe I'm missing something but I haven't gotten much good feedback on this idea. I thought we were trying to bring up league attendance, active membership and club presence?
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: Ken Franks on March 24, 2014, 05:06:40 PM
GREAT IDEA!!! LaRon is already approaching this on a more personal level....

 I've had a little section on Nebdisc.com for many years, and I have really tried to get as much information out as possible.... I could rewrite it, or post a link, to see whatchu need to read...

http://nebdiscforums.yuku.com/forums/10/TanK39s-Tips (http://nebdiscforums.yuku.com/forums/10/TanK39s-Tips)

 Either way... I REALLY want to see more high level competitive/tournament golfers in KC! I'm available whenever, for whatever to aid that.
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: Ken Franks on March 24, 2014, 05:11:40 PM
http://kcfdc.org/tank-disc-golf-tips-breathe/ (http://kcfdc.org/tank-disc-golf-tips-breathe/)
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: kevinmzane on March 24, 2014, 10:29:25 PM
Thanks Tank. I like that philosophy on correctly breathing get in order to correctly align your body. That is exactly the type of insight I think could really help developing players. I'm still not sure exactly how to best implement this type of program but with you and Joe on board so far I'd really like to get something going.. There are a couple others I have in mind that I think would be great as well.

What do you think about having these at leagues? I think rotating leagues, or doing monthly minis with clinics might best help drive membership but am open to suggestions.
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: Ken Franks on March 24, 2014, 11:16:39 PM

What do you think about having these at leagues? I think rotating leagues, or doing monthly minis with clinics might best help drive membership but am open to suggestions.

 both are great ideas... we should get some club rotating monthlies going too!!!

Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: white mccoy on March 25, 2014, 07:45:00 AM

What do you think about having these at leagues? I think rotating leagues, or doing monthly minis with clinics might best help drive membership but am open to suggestions.

 both are great ideas... we should get some club rotating monthlies going too!!!



I'm all in!  Let's get something set up for Mid-April.
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: Timko on March 25, 2014, 09:42:52 AM

What do you think about having these at leagues? I think rotating leagues, or doing monthly minis with clinics might best help drive membership but am open to suggestions.

 both are great ideas... we should get some club rotating monthlies going too!!!



I'm all in!  Let's get something set up for Mid-April.

+1
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: jteater on March 25, 2014, 10:23:51 AM
Whatever kind of minis or clinics you guys have, probably lots of people (myself included) will show up for.  That will certainly increase activity. The only problem I see is it probably won't make a much higher quality of disc golfer in Kansas City. Usually when people go to an activity like that they get one or two good tips. Then they go right back to what they were doing. The thing I think helps me the most, and Kevin talked about it, is if you would each take a small group (3 or 4 people) and play a round with them. If I get pointers in a actual round setting that is where I learn the most. But I understand that is a large chunk of your time.  Maybe if you had a clinic and enough pros showed up that they could work with 3 or 4 people that would be awesome. Any of you guys can teach me anytime. :)
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: Timko on March 25, 2014, 12:36:56 PM
Getting better involves taking tips and practicing. I'm taking a guy out to work with his driving in a field. We will throw between 100 and 150 shots probably.

You can't take those tips from clinics and not practices them outside of golf. It takes a very long time to unlearn something, like the way you throw.

I'm fine giving people advice while they play. I've been focusing a lot on foot position with people this year. But if you want to really improve your throw, you need field practice and a lot of reps.
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: Ken Franks on March 25, 2014, 12:41:39 PM
Spot on Chris...

 What you learn, you must focus on and do in a field, not on a golf course....

 I would even recommend using a field that has no baskets even around...
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: jteater on March 25, 2014, 01:12:19 PM
Getting better involves taking tips and practicing. I'm taking a guy out to work with his driving in a field. We will throw between 100 and 150 shots probably.

You can't take those tips from clinics and not practices them outside of golf. It takes a very long time to unlearn something, like the way you throw.

I'm fine giving people advice while they play. I've been focusing a lot on foot position with people this year. But if you want to really improve your throw, you need field practice and a lot of reps.

Right, and that guy your working with. When you give him a tip and watch him throw 100 to 150 times, you can correct him and keep working with him on the correct way to do it. When you have 20 to 30 people at a clinic you can't give that type of attention. My comment or thoughts weren't about if it's best in a field or on a course. They are about how many people each pro is working with. I also certainly understand if somebody shows you something and you don't work on it that's just your own stupidity. But if you show me something once or twice and watch me do it once or twice that doesn't mean I got it.
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: white mccoy on March 25, 2014, 03:20:34 PM
Whatever kind of minis or clinics you guys have, probably lots of people (myself included) will show up for.  That will certainly increase activity. The only problem I see is it probably won't make a much higher quality of disc golfer in Kansas City. Usually when people go to an activity like that they get one or two good tips. Then they go right back to what they were doing. The thing I think helps me the most, and Kevin talked about it, is if you would each take a small group (3 or 4 people) and play a round with them. If I get pointers in a actual round setting that is where I learn the most. But I understand that is a large chunk of your time.  Maybe if you had a clinic and enough pros showed up that they could work with 3 or 4 people that would be awesome. Any of you guys can teach me anytime. :)

I totally agree with this and what everybody else is saying.  I don't see why we can't run a clinic before a league, and then split up and put a pro with 3-4 ams for the round.  I learned most of what I know just by watching other pros throw different shots.  Watching what they do with their body, feet, breathing.  If you pay attention you can learn a lot, but you still have to go practice it....a bunch.


Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: kevinmzane on March 25, 2014, 06:08:16 PM
Most casual golfers don't really have a better player they can learn from. Although clinics aren't going to magically make someone a better golfer overnight, it will give them valuable tidbits to work on. Clinics also put us out there as members of a community who support one another and introduce those players to people who can help give them the tools to develop their game as well as brings them into a community of like-minded individuals.
I also think mixed divisions on cards could help as well. I never had the benefit of having anyone mentor me and the most I ever learned was during rounds on cards with the pros.
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: Ken Franks on March 26, 2014, 08:25:37 AM
Keep in mind, These clinics will be FREE of charge....!
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: robm on March 26, 2014, 09:03:53 AM
No one gives a sh!t about Pro's anymore... don't you know this yet???

Keep in mind, These clinics will be FREE of charge....!

What!  The local pro isn't going to expect to be paid?   :o
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: Timko on March 26, 2014, 10:02:49 AM
I will totally volunteer to hold a clinic at new players league next month.
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: jteater on March 26, 2014, 07:44:48 PM
I will totally volunteer to hold a clinic at new players league next month.

If you tell us which monday I will plan on being there. Thanks.
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: Ken Franks on March 26, 2014, 07:46:44 PM
No one gives a sh!t about Pro's anymore... don't you know this yet???

Keep in mind, These clinics will be FREE of charge....!

What!  The local pro isn't going to expect to be paid?   :o

 I take hugs as payment....
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: Jerry Patterson on April 03, 2014, 04:02:49 PM
I would be stoked to be able to play a round with a pro, and soak up as much knowledge as I can.
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: hberciunas on April 03, 2014, 09:05:26 PM
My wife is a certified personal trainer. I have her working on a 15 pre-round stretching routine and a disc golf stretch and conditioning program. She said she could do a 15-30 minute presentation.
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: Timko on April 04, 2014, 10:58:07 AM
I'm very interested in the stretching routine.
Title: Re: KCFDC Clinics?
Post by: Ken Franks on April 04, 2014, 12:35:50 PM
I'm very interested in the stretching routine.

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