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Title: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on July 15, 2012, 04:07:42 PM: September 15th at Cliff Drive
2 Round PDGA C-Tier
More info at www.facebook.com/CliffDriveDG.KCMO/events (http://www.facebook.com/CliffDriveDG.KCMO/events)
Sign-up online at www.pdgasignup.com (http://www.pdgasignup.com)
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic
Post by: jamidanger on July 16, 2012, 03:13:17 PM: ok i luv cliff drive, but have any trees been planted as a result of this tournament? can we please change the name to the glock classic?
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic
Post by: Mike Hyzer on July 16, 2012, 04:18:27 PM: Dude, it only raised like $200 last year. That's maybe 2 decent trees. Just be patient and wait foe the new hooes to go in, then the trees will come. And I'd play in a Glock Classic if you were to get it going.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic
Post by: twoDornottwoD on July 16, 2012, 08:26:32 PM: i made the announcement last year at the players' meeting that jack would oversee this project in my absence(if you were there, danger, you would have already known). after countless discussions with jack about numerous projects at cliff drive, it was decided to save up the money and do a larger planting when i return. I have the watering tank and i didn't see the point of putting in trees without a regular supply of water. seems to be a wise decision given the amount of rain kc is getting this year. we should be able to get a better deal on the trees and mulch in two years with the money from the first three tournaments. we raised almost $300 last year and the KCFDC has been kind enough to oversee that money until I return.

the new holes and the trees are separate, independent projects. we will not be planting any trees on the holes we may be loosing until we have confirmation on their ultimate status. there are plenty of existing holes in need of numerous trees that have no plans for leaving us (18,17,16,10,11). we will be starting with those holes, probably in that order.

thanks for the inquiries, danger and khyzer. :D
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on August 04, 2012, 06:19:35 PM: We will be needing 2 big trees to replace the front tree on #8, all the car fires there over the years have taken its toll on them. I would anticipate it going down within the next 18 months.....sad, but planting 2 trees there will still make it a tough shot on the short placement.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on August 04, 2012, 06:50:16 PM: the tree thats 20' in front of the white pin?
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on August 04, 2012, 06:59:16 PM: Yep
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: joots on August 20, 2012, 09:09:06 AM: What time is the players meeting and tee off? I looked on the PDGA signup page, and quite possibly overlooked the time, but nonetheless I have no idea when this tourney gets started.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on August 20, 2012, 09:28:48 AM: Check-In from 7:30-8:30. Players Meeting at 9:00. We will tee not too long after that. Approximately 9:15-9:30.

Sorry, that info was on the FB events page only.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on August 20, 2012, 09:36:47 AM: When: Saturday, September 15th, 2012
Where:   Cliff Drive Disc Golf Course at Kessler Park
What:   PDGA C-Tier Tournament
Why:   Raise money and awareness to plant trees at the course
Fees:   All Open Divisions- $45
All Amateur Divisions - $35
Ace Fund - $2
Non-PDGA Members - Additional $10

*Amateur Divisions Will Play for Trophy Discs*

Register/Check-In 7:30-8:30 am - Players Meeting at 9:00

90 Players Maximum - Pre-Registration is Suggested and Appreciated
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on August 20, 2012, 09:49:58 AM: FYI, as we did last year, this year the course will play longer the first round than the second. Last year, I moved 9 pins between rounds. Look for a similar number this year. I still need to confirm with Jack and Ryan as to which greens will be playable. (It sucks trying to host a tournament from 600+ miles away.) Hopefully will get this finalized this week. Last years pins were:

1st round: 1w,2w,3w,4r,5r,6w,7w,8b,9w,10w,11b,12w,13b,14b,15r,16w,17temp,18r
2nd round: 1w,2r,3w,4w,5w,6w,7w,8w,9w,10w,11r,12w,13b,14w,15w,16r,17temp,18b
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on August 20, 2012, 10:07:19 AM: We can make it all work Drew, you let us know which Pin's you want used in the morning, and then we will work on the movement between rounds.

Most of the greens are in pretty good shape this year due to NO RAIN, so the course plays really like it would in the late fall, which is nice for those of us putting in weedwhacking hours. Probably need to clean up a little on 4&5, but not a lot.

I need to get #2 un-frozen as well, and may try to get that taken care of this week.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: The Bird Father on August 20, 2012, 10:57:46 AM: Trophy only Am's??? Yuck!

What will the player pack be? How many places get trophies?
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Timko on August 20, 2012, 11:08:08 AM: How much from each entry goes towards the trees?
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on August 20, 2012, 11:24:33 AM: Quote from: Slant on August 20, 2012, 10:57:46 AM
Trophy only Am's??? Yuck!

What will the player pack be? How many places get trophies?

You and your "one finger" just need to move up. ;) Last yr was a shirt and a disc. don't quite have the players pack nailed down for this year yet. hopefully, i'll have that info out by next week. Its a lower entry fee than most pdga events for a reason, its more of an awareness raiser than a fundraiser. this tourney is not for the ams who want to take home a stash of plastic to sell on ebay. you want to make money move up. you want to play for a W, pride, bragging rights, Emporia Worlds points, PDGA ratings, and a trophy for a good cause, play whatever division you are eligible for. i was well over the pdga minimums last year for fundraisers on both the am and the pro side. the players pack value will be about the value of the entry minus trophy costs. pdga does not waive their fee without a 501c3. kcfdc was kind enough to waive their fee since it goes back to the course. the number of trophies will be based on the number of players in each division to preregister. i do trophy buzzes so that those who earn them, can do as they please, hang them or throw them or whatever. trying to be as player friendly as i can with a clear conscience.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on August 20, 2012, 11:29:16 AM: Quote from: Timko on August 20, 2012, 11:08:08 AM
How much from each entry goes towards the trees?

its not a specific number for each player. that will depend on the players pack margins this year and the number of ams vs pros. Last yr. we raised ~$300 with 17 players. the low turnout was mostly my fault and i am trying to improve on several things this year.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on August 20, 2012, 11:53:29 AM: We also used the Lion's Den Open this year as a "course fund improvement" for Cliff Drive, and we will be donating that towards the TLC amount on the year!
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on August 20, 2012, 12:04:29 PM: LDO in the black? saaawweeeeeeeeeetttttt!
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on August 20, 2012, 12:15:10 PM: I don't know about in the black..... 8), but we had the raffles going on for the GRIP eq bag, and extra's and all that was to go towards the TLC. It's never a thing to make money......
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on August 20, 2012, 01:59:08 PM: Probable pin locations for the 2012 TLC:
Round 1:
1w,2w,3w,4r,5r,6w,7b,8b,9w,10w,11b,12w,13b,14b,15w,16r,17w,18r
Round2:
1r,2r,3w,4b,5w,6w,7w,8w,9w,10w,11r,12w,13b,14r,15r,16w,17r,18b

if you're keeping tabs, thats 12 holes moving at lunch.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: bensdadfred on August 20, 2012, 02:56:37 PM: Quote from: jack on August 20, 2012, 12:15:10 PM
I don't know about in the black..... 8), but we had the raffles going on for the GRIP eq bag, and extra's and all that was to go towards the TLC. It's never a thing to make money......

It has been
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: LKillian on August 20, 2012, 05:50:35 PM: Quote from: twoDornottwoD on August 20, 2012, 11:29:16 AM

the low turnout was mostly my fault and i am trying to improve on several things this year.
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The weather was crappy and you were going against an event at thornfield. Hardly your fault. If i can help out with anything let me know.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: tallguy007kc on August 20, 2012, 11:12:05 PM: I'm signed up! Nothin' against ya' Slant, but people need to get over the "Shwag" concept. I've played "ball golf" tourney's for years, and no one ever had a problem over a trophy. Just sayin'....bring the money in for da' trees ya'll!!!! 8)
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: NoSponsor on August 21, 2012, 12:52:10 AM: Raising money for local courses and you had to make it a pdga event. I would play but I don't want to donate to the pdga. I realize am worlds is in Emporia next year, but every event this year seems to be pdga sanctioned and I have to pay an extra 10 dollars to play. Why don't you just have a course donation ace fund at every tournament in kc and make it a 50/50.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on August 21, 2012, 08:32:40 AM: Quote from: bensdadfred on August 20, 2012, 02:56:37 PM
Quote from: jack on August 20, 2012, 12:15:10 PM
I don't know about in the black..... 8), but we had the raffles going on for the GRIP eq bag, and extra's and all that was to go towards the TLC. It's never a thing to make money......

It has been

Really? How about I let you pay for the things I buy then, and you see if you can make money on it! :P
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on August 21, 2012, 08:57:07 AM: while i also have my issues with some things the pdga does, in general, i support the structure they are giving the sport. i can't speak for other TD's in the area as to why they choose to sanction or not sanction (though i suspect most TD's have a strong stance either way). i personally like having the documented rules in place to lean on instead of using arbitrary rules that i must enforce on the players who are also my friends (i had to stroke jlowe last year :-\). i grew up an athlete and this sport fills that void for me. plus pdga events have the potential to draw more people from out of town.

just like last year, the ace fund will be 100% if it gets hit. if no ace is hit, we will do a short ctp for 50/50 with 1/2 going to the tree fund.

can't say for sure but i believe these events were unsanctioned in kc this year:
andy and deano's bday
twisted at old pike and ww
DUI
eastern front
SSR
ddkc traveling one days
LDO
RAC
club championships
hitting chains for BACA
Mo PR BlueBird Series
Afternoon d-lite
Ace race
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: NoSponsor on August 21, 2012, 09:25:32 AM: You are correct Drew, I was exaggerating. I don't play any tournaments or leagues anyways. Good luck and hope your fundraiser goes well.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Ken Franks on August 21, 2012, 09:26:11 AM: Quote from: twoDornottwoD on August 21, 2012, 08:57:07 AM

andy and deano's bday - and TanK
twisted at old pike and ww
DUI
eastern front
SSR
ddkc traveling one days
LDO
RAC
club championships
hitting chains for BACA
Mo PR BlueBird Series
Afternoon d-lite
Ace race
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on August 21, 2012, 09:30:50 AM: Quote from: NoSponsor on August 21, 2012, 09:25:32 AM
You are correct Drew, I was exaggerating. I don't play any tournaments or leagues anyways. Good luck and hope your fundraiser goes well.

I'll pay your $10 PDGA fee Sean! Come on out! I have paid for a few PDGA fees already this year!

The LDO and GRIP eq are going to be able to donate $223 towards the Tree Fund for Cliff this year, we are already off to a GREAT start for the event! Now if I can just decipher :o these pin placements.....someone is obviously not color blind!
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: discglover on August 21, 2012, 04:07:40 PM: Quote from: NoSponsor on August 21, 2012, 12:52:10 AM
Raising money for local courses and you had to make it a pdga event???
I agree!
I didn't play last year but still donated.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on August 21, 2012, 04:17:00 PM: The PDGA has an event that aligns with a charitable contribution, so this isn't all the PDGA money going in. With all the PDGA events, and the sanctioning it does legitimize the event within the P&R as well as the local community. We haven't held as many events (sanctioned) where we can say we drew in people from these part of the states, and other states as a PDGA event.

Historically you will be having more people attend PDGA events from other locations and have a higher turnout than those events that are not sanctioned.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: bensdadfred on August 21, 2012, 08:13:39 PM: Quote from: jack on August 21, 2012, 08:32:40 AM
Quote from: bensdadfred on August 20, 2012, 02:56:37 PM
Quote from: jack on August 20, 2012, 12:15:10 PM
I don't know about in the black..... 8), but we had the raffles going on for the GRIP eq bag, and extra's and all that was to go towards the TLC. It's never a thing to make money......

It has been

Really? How about I let you pay for the things I buy then, and you see if you can make money on it! :P
[/quote
Don't get your panties all bound up! You're the one who said its NEVER a thing to make money when you should have said that NOW its not about making money.. that would be more accurate.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Ken Franks on August 21, 2012, 09:00:41 PM: Life lesson #1206: The more someone tells you its not something, the more it IS something
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: NoSponsor on August 22, 2012, 12:58:25 AM: Thanks for the offer Jack. I will be busy with the new addition. Is there any way we can donate for course improvements through the club?
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on August 22, 2012, 08:35:14 AM: By all means, any donations will be gladly accepted, you can paypal either myself or drew, or come out that day and donate.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: discglover on August 22, 2012, 05:01:52 PM: Your welcome for taking my suggestion.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on August 28, 2012, 09:42:31 AM: Quote from: twoDornottwoD on August 20, 2012, 01:59:08 PM
Probable pin locations for the 2012 TLC:
Round 1:
1w,2w,3w,4r,5r,6w,7b,8b,9w,10w,11b,12w,13b,14b,15w,16r,17w,18r
Round2:
1r,2r,3w,4b,5w,6w,7w,8w,9w,10w,11r,12w,13b,14r,15r,16w,17r,18b

if you're keeping tabs, thats 12 holes moving at lunch.

Ok So for me who doesn't get your color schematics.....I got the code breaking sheet from Drew! ;D
Round 1:
1-Original-432 (4)
2-Long-330 (3)
3-Short-234 (3) :P
4-Short-225 (3)
5-Short-186 (3)
6-Right/Long-387 (3)
7-Long/Deep-366 (3)
8-Long-549 (4)
9-Short-309 (3) :P
----Out-3019 (29)----
10-Middle-324 (3)
11-Long-492 (3)
12-Short-375 (3) ::)
13-Long-711 (4)
14-Long Right across Road-431 (3)
15-Long/Left-396
16-Short-360 (3)
17-Peninsula-683 (4)
18-Right/Short-495 (4)
----In-4267 (30)
Total-7285 (59)

Round 2
1-Short-330 (3)
2-Short-210 (3)
3-Long-234 (3) ;D
4-Long-375 (4)
5-Long-252 (3)
6-Long/Right-387 (3)
7-Middle-300 (3)
8-Tree's-384 (3)
9-Long-309 (3) ???
----Out 2781 (28)----
10-Middle-324 (3)
11-Short-279 (3)
12-Long-375 (3) :P
13-Long-711 (4)
14-Short-274 (3)
15-Short-320 (3)
16-Original/Long-528 (4)
17-Short-495 (3)
18-Practice Basket Blue location-663 (4)
----In 3969 (30)----
Total 6750 (58)

That is how it is slated to be played. For those of you wondering about the (par), in those holes the decision is made that if you were to miss the hole, you should get a par +4, and typically getting a 3 is playing it very well, playing very well is playing above average, or above par.......so with that in mind here are your par's for the day. I will work on getting the course set up this week in this configuration for people to practice on. Though I will probably not move #2 back to short until the week of the event since it just moved long for the first time since this event last year......

Looking forward to having people out at Cliff Drive for this fantastic event. Looking forward to having Drew back in town as well. This is a great event for a great cause! Please come support it!

Thanks,

Jack
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on August 28, 2012, 11:27:19 AM: Quote from: jack on August 28, 2012, 09:42:31 AM
Round 1:
2-Long-330 (3)

Round 2
2-Short-210 (3)

Though I will probably not move #2 back to short until the week of the event since it just moved long for the first time since this event last year......

Don't need to move it until the 15th. We'll say noonish.... :P
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on August 28, 2012, 04:34:53 PM: DOH! >:(
;D ;)
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on August 30, 2012, 09:31:41 AM: This just in! This just in! This just in! This just in! This just in! This just in!

You can signup for the Tree Love Classic at the Old Settlers Open on Saturday so bring your extra cash.

TLC Entry Fee Reminder: ALL Pro Divisions are $45. ALL Amateur Divisions are $35

That is how it was. or is. 8)
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on September 04, 2012, 11:01:32 AM: is there a flyer for this event? Did I miss it?
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Scott A Reek on September 04, 2012, 02:38:57 PM: You can also register at DDKC. I know we have a flyer, but not sure if there is one posted anywhere else.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Scott A Reek on September 04, 2012, 02:39:30 PM: I will make copies of the one I have and it post it at the courses.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on September 04, 2012, 03:01:39 PM: thanks scott
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on September 04, 2012, 03:44:56 PM: I got one from Drew!

Kevin helped out to get it posted!

http://kcfdc.org/docs/tlc_flyer_2012.pdf (http://kcfdc.org/docs/tlc_flyer_2012.pdf)
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on September 07, 2012, 11:57:32 AM: This just in, amateur players who don't pre-register for the event by Monday, September 10th, may have to pick up their player's pack the following week at Dynamic Discs – Kansas City: 2854 West 47th St., Kansas City, KS 66103, instead of at the tournaments. This is to keep all of the profits going towards the trees instead of tying possible revenue up in un-needed plastic and shirts. only exception is players from out of the metro area.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: ajinks on September 07, 2012, 03:01:20 PM: I'm planning on driving up for Joplin for this event but I won't know 100% for sure until late next week. Would you still rather me pre-register a day or two before the event or just show up the day of?

Ams pay $35, get a disc and a shirt, and the rest of the entry fee goes to the fundraiser, correct? What kind of disc? Cotton or dri-fit shirt? How is the $45 entry fee for Pro's being paid out?

I've only played Cliff once about 3 years ago and I'm excited to come play it again.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on September 07, 2012, 05:26:27 PM: hope you can make it. i don't expect it to fill before saturday morning but you never know. i would recommend contacting me before you make the drive to make sure you have a spot.

discs will be all discraft, mostly z, possibly some esp or flx. shirts are long-sleeve cotton.

some of the rest of the am entry fee will pay for trophies, the rest will go to the fundraiser. the pro purse will be paid out in cash according to the pdga payout tables within each division.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on September 07, 2012, 05:36:00 PM: before or after you check-in with the TD, remember to FaceBook "check-in" at the TLC at Cliff Drive to be eligible to win a Dynamic Discs - KC gift certificate. you must be FB checked-in before the first round start time. I'll try to remember to remind everyone at the players' meeting but no promises.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on September 09, 2012, 10:37:53 AM: Everything is set up except for #4....I tried to move pins yesterday after the
EAST SIDE!!!
EAST SIDE!!!
EAST SIDE!!!
EAST SIDE!!!
EAST SIDE!!!
won, but my leg is hurting pretty bad, so I am going to try to have someone move it tomorrow before league. I don't think that I should play so...I may try to walk down there after league starts tomorrow and move it accordingly....... Everything else is in first round place.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on September 10, 2012, 08:24:44 AM: Getting a small group together for pre-TLC ball golf friday afternoon, probably at Hodge. those of you who are free, PM me by 5:00 today and I'll get us a tee time approx 1-1:30. Have 3-4 already. want to see if i need a second slot.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Mike Hyzer on September 10, 2012, 09:19:32 AM: F'n ball golf, dude? I thought we were hanging out at Cliff this Friday? Well, fine, you go and enjoy your stupid ball golf, then. ;D
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on September 10, 2012, 09:51:03 AM: friday morning yes. you said you worked 2nd shift.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Mike Hyzer on September 10, 2012, 09:55:40 AM: I have the day off. If I can find my old plaid knickers and sweater vest, maybe I'll go to Hodge with you. That is the only ball golf course I have ever played.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: discglover on September 10, 2012, 05:15:59 PM: I have a BBQ lunch I am attending at noon. I doubt I'd make it in time.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Ken Franks on September 10, 2012, 06:28:59 PM: Quote from: discglover on September 10, 2012, 05:15:59 PM
I have a BBQ lunch I am attending at noon. I doubt I'd make it in time.

thank god!!! :)
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on September 11, 2012, 08:51:46 AM: INjury report update-

Jack Lowe-who injured his calf on SAturday during the trouncing of the WEak Side by the EAST SIDE, is said to be moving better today. Though some slight tenderness is still obvious, this injury is still too far out to make a determination on his game time status. Those of you interested in deep sleeper picks in the TLC fantasy Draft for the Age-protected-division-protected-gender-protected division's should continue to monitor the information leaked out by their camp.

We will keep you updated as the situation continues to confound those of wanting to know.

Status-Day to day
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on September 11, 2012, 09:09:22 AM: I'll send Rachel Nichols to your lawn.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Timko on September 11, 2012, 09:41:41 AM: I tore most of the cuticle off of the outside of my right index finger, and after playing Fox Hill on Sunday, we'll see about golf this weekend. It does feel better though...
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Mike Hyzer on September 11, 2012, 09:54:28 AM: Quote from: Timko on September 11, 2012, 09:41:41 AM
I tore most of the cuticle off of the outside of my right index finger, and after playing Fox Hill on Sunday, we'll see about golf this weekend. It does feel better though...

If this were ESPN, it would say: Chris Timko (cuticle) questionable for TLC at Cliff Drive.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: ajinks on September 11, 2012, 10:15:22 AM: Is DGCR still pretty accurate for Cliff Drive in terms of holes and layout?

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=286&mode=hi (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=286&mode=hi)

I've played Cliff once and it was probably 3+ years ago so I just want to know if it's even remotely the same course from back then.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on September 11, 2012, 10:23:05 AM: it hasn't changed too much in the last 3 yrs other than a significant loss of trees :'( . the layout on dgcr is a typical layout for cliff but some holes will have multiple pins and can play quite a bit shorter or longer. i will be moving 12 pins at lunch break so you will get two different rounds of golf.

holes 2,4,7,8,18 can/will play longer than dgcr values one round or the other
holes 1,4,14,15,16,17 can/will play shorter than dgcr values one round or the other
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on September 11, 2012, 10:23:38 AM: Quote from: jack on August 28, 2012, 09:42:31 AM
Quote from: twoDornottwoD on August 20, 2012, 01:59:08 PM
Probable pin locations for the 2012 TLC:
Round 1:
1w,2w,3w,4r,5r,6w,7b,8b,9w,10w,11b,12w,13b,14b,15w,16r,17w,18r
Round2:
1r,2r,3w,4b,5w,6w,7w,8w,9w,10w,11r,12w,13b,14r,15r,16w,17r,18b

if you're keeping tabs, thats 12 holes moving at lunch.

Ok So for me who doesn't get your color schematics.....I got the code breaking sheet from Drew! ;D
Round 1:
1-Original-432 (4)
2-Long-330 (3)
3-Short-234 (3) :P
4-Short-225 (3)
5-Short-186 (3)
6-Right/Long-387 (3)
7-Long/Deep-366 (3)
8-Long-549 (4)
9-Short-309 (3) :P
----Out-3019 (29)----
10-Middle-324 (3)
11-Long-492 (3)
12-Short-375 (3) ::)
13-Long-711 (4)
14-Long Right across Road-431 (3)
15-Long/Left-396
16-Short-360 (3)
17-Peninsula-683 (4)
18-Right/Short-495 (4)
----In-4267 (30)
Total-7285 (59)

Round 2
1-Short-330 (3)
2-Short-210 (3)
3-Long-234 (3) ;D
4-Long-375 (4)
5-Long-252 (3)
6-Long/Right-387 (3)
7-Middle-300 (3)
8-Tree's-384 (3)
9-Long-309 (3) ???
----Out 2781 (28)----
10-Middle-324 (3)
11-Short-279 (3)
12-Long-375 (3) :P
13-Long-711 (4)
14-Short-274 (3)
15-Short-320 (3)
16-Original/Long-528 (4)
17-Short-495 (3)
18-Practice Basket Blue location-663 (4)
----In 3969 (30)----
Total 6750 (58)

That is how it is slated to be played. For those of you wondering about the (par), in those holes the decision is made that if you were to miss the hole, you should get a par +4, and typically getting a 3 is playing it very well, playing very well is playing above average, or above par.......so with that in mind here are your par's for the day. I will work on getting the course set up this week in this configuration for people to practice on. Though I will probably not move #2 back to short until the week of the event since it just moved long for the first time since this event last year......

Looking forward to having people out at Cliff Drive for this fantastic event. Looking forward to having Drew back in town as well. This is a great event for a great cause! Please come support it!

Thanks,

Jack
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on September 11, 2012, 10:31:42 AM: Yeah the reviews are pretty well right in line with where things are. Now hopefully we will be singing a song and dance on the new holes for next year's event.

The talk of trash in the park by a few of the reviewers is tough to take, but its something that we all need to work on. Unfortunately the P&R brought in 8 new cans for us to use that were stolen within the first 3 days of being placed there.....unbelievable. I need to get plastic ones out there, and paint them P&R green for the future.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: tallguy007kc on September 11, 2012, 11:58:40 AM: Quote from: jack on September 11, 2012, 08:51:46 AM
INjury report update-

Jack Lowe-who injured his calf on SAturday during the trouncing of the WEak Side by the EAST SIDE, is said to be moving better today. Though some slight tenderness is still obvious, this injury is still too far out to make a determination on his game time status. Those of you interested in deep sleeper picks in the TLC fantasy Draft for the Age-protected-division-protected-gender-protected division's should continue to monitor the information leaked out by their camp.

We will keep you updated as the situation continues to confound those of wanting to know.

Status-Day to day

Never count out THE Tallguy in the Age-protected-division-protected-gender-protected division.......EVER! ;D (Rating Schmating :P) :o 8)
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on September 11, 2012, 12:03:32 PM: hard to OVER-look a Tall Guy. and the Loudmouth pants make it hard to look past you. just sayin' :o
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: tallguy007kc on September 11, 2012, 12:14:54 PM: Quote from: twoDornottwoD on September 11, 2012, 12:03:32 PM
hard to OVER-look a Tall Guy. and the Loudmouth pants make it hard to look past you. just sayin' :o

*Like!* ;D
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Mike Hyzer on September 11, 2012, 03:52:31 PM: Quote from: jack on September 11, 2012, 10:31:42 AM

The talk of trash in the park by a few of the reviewers is tough to take...

Whatever, dude! Got one hand on my balls and the middle finger wavin' at whoever wrote that sh1t! Come on out and help clean up instead of b%tching about it on DGCR.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on September 11, 2012, 04:32:06 PM: 82 deg with 7 mph wind on saturday. may change but sure looks better than last year.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on September 11, 2012, 04:33:03 PM: when you come from places like Minnesota, you get surprised about the trash on all the courses, they also complained about Rosedale, and Water Works on the trash.....it makes sense, I was thinking it about WW on Saturday last week. There is only one of me though, and others that help. I know that we have made many strides to help clean up Cliff, but we have many more strides to go.

As we move into the next phase of Cliff Drive though we will be making a bigger impact, and P&R with their CPTED ideas as well as the new trails connecting the River Market, etc, homeless camps will become less of an eye sore and diminished in the area, then it will be the illegal dumping that we tackle. Collectively we have made an impact, and a guest to our city that isn't here daily wouldn't know that.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Timko on September 11, 2012, 05:09:56 PM: Quote from: Mike Hyzer on September 11, 2012, 09:54:28 AM
Quote from: Timko on September 11, 2012, 09:41:41 AM
I tore most of the cuticle off of the outside of my right index finger, and after playing Fox Hill on Sunday, we'll see about golf this weekend. It does feel better though...

If this were ESPN, it would say: Chris Timko (cuticle) questionable for TLC at Cliff Drive.

If it were baseball:

Chris Timko: Day to Day (cuticle)
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on September 12, 2012, 08:56:24 AM: INJURY UPDATE-
Jack Lowe-Designer of the Cliff Drive Disc Golf course has indicated that the swelling is subsiding quite nicely at this point in his right calf. Though not ruled in or out yet for the Annual Tree Love Classic, signs and indication at this point are leaning towards a favorable stance in the chances he will make at least the first round appearance. This though couldn't be confirmed at the time of the reporting. So as of now, listing him as day-to-day would be a subjective call, and he should remain inactive on all rosters until the confirmation comes from the camp on his medical condition.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on September 12, 2012, 01:00:17 PM: Quote from: jack on September 11, 2012, 08:51:46 AM
...for the Age-protected-division-protected-gender-protected division...

actually, your division is not gender protected, unless you had a sex change you haven't told us about :-X ;D
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on September 12, 2012, 02:19:33 PM: Yes it is. MEN MASTERS, I can't play Women's Masters and women can't play Men's masters (though sometimes they are allowed due to divisional restraints. If I tried to play Women's Masters what would happen?
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Mike Hyzer on September 12, 2012, 03:53:07 PM: Quote from: Tracy on September 12, 2012, 03:48:22 PM
Drew is correct. Jack, nope. There are no Men only divisions. Look at Tour Standards PDF CLASS and Division name; no division is described as * Men, where as WOMEN's divisions are explicitly named * Women. Don't try to infer anything from the division code. Women are never restricted from playing in say MPM, as long as they meet the age requirement.

One way street. Isn't that how equality is supposed to work? ;)
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on September 12, 2012, 04:04:56 PM: jack WISHES his division was gender protected so he doesn't get beat by a girl :-[
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on September 12, 2012, 05:31:41 PM: Quote from: twoDornottwoD on September 12, 2012, 04:04:56 PM
jack WISHES his division was gender protected so he doesn't get beat by a girl :-[
I don't wanna get to personal on here, but how do you know that I don't?
??? :o ;D :D ;) :)

Or that I already haven't? 8) :P ::)
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: ajinks on September 13, 2012, 09:39:53 AM: Anyone have an empty bed or couch to house two Joplinites this Friday night? I've got a hiking air mattress so I could even survive on the floor.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on September 13, 2012, 09:52:35 AM: I've got a lot of family coming down, and already opened up to a few others, or I would do so. Sorry about that. Can you bring with you though registration forms for the 4-states with you as well?

Thanks,

Jack
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on September 13, 2012, 10:25:13 AM: Injury update--Jack Lowe MM1 division player-
Reports are coming in that Jack Lowe is walking with less noticeable limp today. The moves that he has shown over the last week in terms of walking seem to be improving on a daily basis. We finally tracked him down with some tough questions, here are his responses:

Q-Jack, how does the calf feel, it appears as though that you aren't favoring it as much as you were earlier in the week.

A-Yeah, it feels better. You know, I think that the Loomis dude put some sort of 48 state hex on me, and I am beginning to think that the spell was only to work during the weekend, but he put such a strong mojo on it, that it carried over into the next week. I mean, you saw my game out there last Saturday morning, Perry and I were killing it, we were hitting shots, I was on, and no Loomis to be found. Then the afternoon round, when I started to put together some shots, he went behind the bushes in Rosedale, and we all know what happens when you go there, and then I put a shot about 3' from #10, and the next time I went to drive, WHAM. I wish the camera's from "the ocho" were on us, because I bet replay would show that he threw something at my calf.

Q-Are you going to be ready to play this Saturday, and will you play better than last year, where you really didn't have a great day, but still was able to win the field?

A-You know, it is tough to defend a title, and I had quite a few distractions, especially the rain, the long lunch at Hickock's, the constant badgering from G$ and the name calling. I mean, I get it, he is scared of my game, and feels threatened every time he sees that I have signed up, but at some point you need to realize that superior gamesmanship is going to happen. I am not sure why this too tall dude thinks that he can drive up and compete, I mean look at it, he shot a sub 800, heck, a sub 775 round last year at the event, and he wants to talk trash? I am prepared to win if I do in fact play. I'd say right now the desire to defend is strong, but the calf that Loomis locked up is not cooperating.

Q-You seem to be game day decision, when do you think you will decide on when you will play?

A-Well, I really think that it may come up to the last minute. Each day I seem to be getting better and better, walking up the stairs is still quite a chore, and the terrain on the front 11 holes is going to stress that out. THe following week with Topeka, then possibly Joplin make the decision tough. Do I want to rest a week so that I am able to go strong, or is playing for one day going to be able to help move those muscles? The fact the event is a 1-day ordeal really helps, in that I know that I can probably muster through it, but will it hurt the rest of the month's planned events? The other thing that is HUGE to know is that Tom Palmer and Tom Mollenkamp, and Dirk Hacker are at this point being little children and haven't indicated that they will be attempting to play. I like how they get scared that easily, and it makes the desire to play strong. At this point, I am probably 55/45, which isn't good. Rest assured though, if I am not playing, I will be there to heckle.

Q-How many trees are you hoping to love, and will you love them classically?

A-That's it, I am out of here, your questions are ridiculous.

Well, with that he stormed out, and gave no indication as to when he may be made available for comments. We shall keep this and the other injuries updated (Chris Timko-hangnail (we were told that he also has a broken nostril hair, that is impeding his breathing), Tracy Walker-Pride in his game) as they become available.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: TPalmer on September 13, 2012, 11:37:46 AM: Jack, you do make some good points. Let's see.....should I play this 1 day tournament for the love of trees or attempt to defend my title in Topeka the following week.....so many choices.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on September 13, 2012, 11:51:22 AM: Quote from: ajinks on September 13, 2012, 09:39:53 AM
Anyone have an empty bed or couch to house two Joplinites this Friday night? I've got a hiking air mattress so I could even survive on the floor.

division and shirt size?
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: twoDornottwoD on September 13, 2012, 12:00:35 PM: computer shutting down. kc here i come. you can still sign-up for this event online through tonight. or at ddkc today or tomorrow. or by emailing me at treeloveclassic@gmail.com (http://treeloveclassic@gmail.com). just a reminder, ams who havent already pre-registered will have to pick up their am players pack at ddkc starting next week (unless you live out of the metro). those will be available towards the end of next week. shirts sound sweet thanks to matt hays at foretwenty. at this time, we have plenty of spots open in all divisions.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: ajinks on September 13, 2012, 02:13:25 PM: Tracy, where at on the west side of town? I imagine we won't be getting into town until 9:00 or later and it sounds like heading your direction might add 30+ min to our drive so unfortunately WyCo league is out for us.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: ajinks on September 13, 2012, 02:29:19 PM: Well I think we'll take you up on your generous offer and hopefully convince you to play in the tourney too! I'll PM you my cell phone # and so I can get your phone # too. Thanks!
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on September 13, 2012, 03:15:31 PM: ----Breaking news-----This bulletin was just sent into the office-----

In a incredible twist of information, the player known as Jack Lowe has been reclassified as an amateur player. Last year after turning pro in Olathe by accepting cash, he won his next event as an amateur, this year after playing abysmally in Olathe he requested and received notification that he is in fact now back to "amateur status" within the governing body and will be eligible for all the shenanigans that come along with the title of sandbagging as a player. Though based on many of his rounds this year, the term sandbagging for him has about as much need as the sand bags themselves were needed in most of the United States. In other words, they weren't, kinda like his game, it wasn't....

No comment from the camp on the determination of the event still, but there will continue to be those that monitor it accordingly.

Here is the release that came from the camp.

Jack,

Sorry for the delay, I was on the road for three weeks then went immediately into a ratings update prep period and now the PDGA Board Fall Summit.

Looking at the criteria:

You have not previously reclassified from Pro to Am
You are Masters age and under a 935 rating
You last accepted $ on 9/3/2011 over a year ago

You are approved for reclassification to Amateur status as 0f 9/13/2012.

Announce away!

Thanks,

Andrew
Andrew "Big Dog" Sweeton
PDGA Tour Manager
Professional Disc Golf Association
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Utz on September 13, 2012, 03:48:09 PM: Jack,

Sorry for the delay, I had Chipotle 3 days in a row after being on the road for several weeks, I took a sh!t that lasted well over 24 hours..

Looking at the criteria:

Your Gender Reassignment Surgery was a success
You are Masters age and under a 935 rating
You throw like a girl

You are approved for reclassification to Women status as 0f 9/13/2012.

Announce away!

Thanks,

David
David "Big Dukey" Wheaton
PDGA Gender Manager
Professional Disc Golf Association
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on September 13, 2012, 03:54:25 PM: Great, Now I get to swing at all angles! You know, maybe now I can cash in more divisions than that Animal dude from the Muppets! ;D He always seems to throw temper tantrums, but not discs very well! :o
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Tom on September 13, 2012, 04:47:34 PM: Jack, I dunno about Mollencamp or Palmer, but I'm pretty confident you will get beat down by someone named Tom. Of course with the severe thrashing you received at Old Settlers still fresh in your mind, I imagine your calf will have a sudden and severe relapse soon. ;D
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: ekolk on September 13, 2012, 07:01:32 PM: Quote from: Utz on September 13, 2012, 03:48:09 PM
Jack,

Sorry for the delay, I had Chipotle 3 days in a row after being on the road for several weeks, I took a sh!t that lasted well over 24 hours..

Looking at the criteria:

Your Gender Reassignment Surgery was a success
You are Masters age and under a 935 rating
You throw like a girl

You are approved for reclassification to Women status as 0f 9/13/2012.

Announce away!

Thanks,

David
David "Big Dukey" Wheaton
PDGA Gender Manager
Professional Disc Golf Association

Love it!
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: tallguy007kc on September 13, 2012, 07:10:05 PM: What's that on the horizon??? Is it a tower? Is it an oil rig in Oklahoma? A Kansas prairie wind mill???!!??? OH NO!!! It can't be!!! It...it...it's a....Dear Lord!! It's a calf slashin', G$ takin', new and MUCH improved, Bad Mama Jama......Tallguy!!! :o D@mn....he hasn't even left Wichita, and he can see the trembling from 193 miles away!!! ::)

He sends these words to those who fear him ;D "Fear Not...The Giggity!!!! For the Giggity brings truth and justice for all those who doubt!!! (Well, he brings himself, and beer anyway...lol) 8)

Lookin' forward to getting there tomorrow, and kickin' some 'o your a$$es!!!! 8)
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: coops on September 14, 2012, 08:46:14 AM: Is anyone else gonna play open?
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Loomis on September 14, 2012, 10:59:09 AM: Cooper. Pay my entry and I will play.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jamidanger on September 15, 2012, 02:34:55 PM: http://youtu.be/Dgkwpye2cms (http://youtu.be/Dgkwpye2cms)
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Loomis on September 15, 2012, 08:27:32 PM: so where are the scores for this shindig?
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jhinck2 on September 15, 2012, 08:50:52 PM: Posted on the PDGA website
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Mike Hyzer on September 16, 2012, 07:14:24 AM: Had a blast playing in my first PDGA tourney! Would have to liked a better score on the 2nd round, but the day as a whole could not have been better. Thanks to Drew for running this great event and congrats to everyone involved for helping to make a difference in our parks.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on September 17, 2012, 08:55:22 AM: had fun, great course, thanks Drew, sorry I had to DNF....off to the doctor today, but feeling as though I may be done with disc golf playing for the remainder of the year.....sux :-[
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jamidanger on September 17, 2012, 09:27:25 AM: JACK : in addition to eating right, drinking responsibly and smoking regularly, try this to get back in the game :::
note - the instructor kinda looks like you too

http://youtu.be/Ci-si74djPM (http://youtu.be/Ci-si74djPM)
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on September 17, 2012, 01:45:40 PM: Nice job Timko with the 1008 rated round 1 out there! Is that your first 1000+ round?
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Timko on September 17, 2012, 02:15:16 PM: Yeah. I was telling someone I 4'd my last 3 holes and had a hole that I 3 putted within 12 feet as well, so that round could have been really, really good. I did 3 #8 and #14 (5 2's and 5 4's with nothing worse on the scorecard). But it's nice to play a round that doesn't feel like I'm playing out of my mind and it turn out that well.

The better part was following it up with the 882 :(. Going 5-6-6 on 3, 4, and 5 will do that to you.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Mike Hyzer on September 17, 2012, 02:40:41 PM: How do I find my round ratings?
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Utz on September 17, 2012, 02:44:50 PM: Hyzer: PDGA Score Postings (http://www.pdga.com/tournament_results/91125) ---> then click 'Show Round Ratings'

The real story of the day was Teddy Keith's 958 rated round 2. Go Teddy! stellar play!
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Mike Hyzer on September 17, 2012, 03:00:30 PM: Okay, it shows 972 and 929 for me. With this being my only PDGA event, would my player rating just be an average of the two? 950.5?
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on September 17, 2012, 03:06:21 PM: I believe that you have to use 6 rounds to create a true rating for numbers standpoint Mike. Chris, I am all too familiar with the great one round what happened the 2nd round play!
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: tedkeith on September 17, 2012, 09:34:20 PM: Quote from: Utz on September 17, 2012, 02:44:50 PM
Hyzer: PDGA Score Postings (http://www.pdga.com/tournament_results/91125) ---> then click 'Show Round Ratings'

The real story of the day was Teddy Keith's 958 rated round 2. Go Teddy! stellar play!

Thanks Greg! It was a great round for me on that course. I don't often break 60 at Cliffy. Still not enough to catch the great G$ after my 918 first round.
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: tallguy007kc on September 17, 2012, 09:46:44 PM: I gotta say, I had a GREAT time hangin' with my KC Disc Golf Peeps this weekend! I had a freakin' blast......I miss KC in a bad way, but, all is good overall! KC Disc Golf Rules!!!!
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Timko on September 19, 2012, 04:17:07 PM: Pictures!

http://northeastnews.net/pages/?p=14731 (http://northeastnews.net/pages/?p=14731)
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: Mike Hyzer on September 19, 2012, 05:48:27 PM: Quote from: Timko on September 19, 2012, 04:17:07 PM
Pictures!

http://northeastnews.net/pages/?p=14731 (http://northeastnews.net/pages/?p=14731)

Alas, none of Leslie. :-[ ;)
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: matty on September 25, 2012, 02:55:41 PM: If you didnt get your shirt from drew at the event they have been delivered to the dd store. thanks for being patient
Title: Re: 2012 - Tree Love Classic - 09-15-12
Post by: jack on September 26, 2012, 01:15:41 PM: Thanks for the update! I will head on down there! Demian I have yours at my place.