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Title: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Tracy on October 23, 2012, 04:34:35 PM
Announcing the second annual Kansas City Team Challenge

Hosting rights will flip flop from East to West each year.  The "Host" team gets 2 rounds (24 points worth of matches) on the course of their captains choice. The other round (8 points worth of matches) is played on the opposing teams turf.  2012 version was slightly different, but allowed a first Host to be determined for this year.  By virtue of their win in 2012, the East side will be the host team for 2013. Host team will alternate each year.  2014 will be West hosted.  2015 will be East hosted etc. 

Date:
June 1st and 2nd

Format:
Teams of 16 players (plus alternates) from KS. and MO. each to compete in match play of three formats (alternate shot doubles, best shot doubles and singles). Each match will be worth one point. East Side can retain the Eagle trophy with 16 points or more. The West side has to get 16.5 points or more to win the trophy.

Where:
Wyco - afternoon of Saturday the June 1st, for 8 alternate shot doubles matches.
Cliff Drive, on Sunday, June 2nd for the 8 best shot doubles matches in the morning and 16 singles matches after lunch.

Who:
Captains:
MO - East Side - Ryan Keck
KS - West Side - Tracy Walker
Players:
To be determined!  Possibly a combination of spots obtained via qualifying or captains picks.  I'm leaving it up to the Captain of each side to determine how to build their team. I think we should stick with the 2 Women, 3 Masters (min.) and 11 Open players as required composition of each team.

Cost:
$25. Unless you already have an official team jersey for your side, in which case it is just $10. $10 to support tree planting at KC area courses.

I'll provide more details as Ryan and I determine how we're going to form our teams.  June will get here sooner than you think.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: coops on October 23, 2012, 04:51:17 PM
Dear Captain Walker,

Interested.

Sincerely,

Cooper Arnold
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on October 23, 2012, 07:01:12 PM
Oh Captain, My Captain.

Though I am injured and may possibly be in Georgia fighting for the other Team Kansas at the collegiate championships, I would like to throw my hat into the ring for consideration in this endeavor. The scourge of missouri rapscallions must be swept clean from our lands once and for all! Their godless ways are an abomination to our sport and we must smite them with the heavy hand of Kansas righteousness!!!!

I would turn your attention to my recent victory over the most notorious and evil of missouri scoundrels, Jack "I think I just strained my pancreas!" Lowe as testimony of my willingness and ability to defeat missouri trash whenever the need arises.

If in your great wisdom you should deem it necessary to load the front with more worthy and spry soldiers, please allow me to assist our holy warriors in other ways. For example; I am very handy with Chinese throwing stars - If you think that would be helpful.

Thank you for your time.

Loomis

Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Peter Bures on October 23, 2012, 08:06:40 PM
I'm in.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: dickthediscparker on October 23, 2012, 08:37:05 PM
I want in. Hated missing out last go round
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: bensdadfred on October 23, 2012, 11:22:23 PM
If you need a fresh new master to take on gloomis, let me know........ I'M IN!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: KCVinnie on October 24, 2012, 08:09:07 AM
Even though I only played in one round, the challenge was the highlight of my discing year.  Hope I can qualify for all of the rounds this year!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on October 24, 2012, 08:45:11 AM
I except Fled's challenge. And as I am injured, we should be evenly matched. Gloomis accepts.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Tom on October 24, 2012, 10:25:10 AM
I think it would be cool if the parks and rec departments of Wyandotte County and KCMO would plant trees on the publicly owned land like they do in Olathe and Joco on their dime.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Utz on October 24, 2012, 10:36:29 AM
I guess that's the price you pay not to live/play Johnson County...
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jamidanger on October 24, 2012, 11:31:47 AM
yeah, like at blue valley, where all those randomly planted trees which cost our club nada yet seem to be a perfect fit for kcMO's premier disc golf course. too bad the crime rate at 23rd and topping is too high to be considered joco.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: The Nailer™ on October 25, 2012, 07:14:54 AM
Cliff Drive is about a sketchy as it gets.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Mike Hyzer on October 25, 2012, 08:36:02 AM
Cliff Drive is about a sketchy as it gets.

I can certainly understand why you'd say that, with the bodies and burned vehicles, condoms and syringes, etc. But as far as disc golfers are concerned, has anyone ever had their vehicle broken into at Cliff? Not that I'm aware of. It has happened several times at Swope and Rosedale, though.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: sirbronco on October 25, 2012, 08:37:46 AM
Cliff Drive is about a sketchy as it gets.

I can certainly understand why you'd say that, with the bodies and burned vehicles, condoms and syringes, etc. But as far as disc golfers are concerned, has anyone ever had their vehicle broken into at Cliff? Not that I'm aware of. It has happened several times at Swope and Rosedale, though.

Mike, I agree...I have heard more about thefts of bags and broken into vehicles at Rosey and Swope.  I have never had any issues at Cliff!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jhinck2 on October 25, 2012, 08:38:28 AM
Even Young Park has had break in's this year
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jteater on October 25, 2012, 09:11:59 AM
That's why I always play at WYCO and USM. There is no crime, the sun is always shining, and the breeze is always just right. You guys are welcome to come see for yourselves.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Utz on October 25, 2012, 09:40:44 AM
Yeah, Cliff isnt that bad. My Jeep has plastic windows, and I've never been messed with there.

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bodies and burned vehicles, condoms and syringes, etc.

Don't forget "Destroyers" Mike, bahaha..
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on October 25, 2012, 09:43:25 AM
People are jerks.  There are issues in all parks, neighborhoods, and provinces, so get off your high horses, and enjoy life, and be mindful.

East is the Beast of the disc golf scene.

I hope to qualify.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: dickthediscparker on October 25, 2012, 10:03:46 AM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/46398088@N08/8113083993/#in/set-72157631829099890 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46398088@N08/8113083993/#in/set-72157631829099890)

Not hurt here and it doesn't look much better...
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: The Nailer™ on October 25, 2012, 12:36:32 PM
Man people.  I was talking about the 300' drop off on 12!!!!

The other stuff...eh...I can work around it.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on October 25, 2012, 12:45:02 PM
Man people.  I was talking about the 300' drop off on 12!!!!

The other stuff...eh...I can work around it.

I was attempting to help Tank with his disc last year at the club championships, and my shoe lace got caught in a tree, and flipped me head over heals for about 3 times down the hill.  I kept on thinking this is how I am going to die.

I didn't die, but I also didn't finish the club championship, and was out of commission for about 3 weeks afterwards.

So it appears to be more dangerous than it may be.  As a few of the new locations go in, that may appear to look "safer" than a couple of areas I am going to want to expand on!
 :o ;D 8)
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: CD on October 25, 2012, 04:57:48 PM
I may miss this one  :o
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: ekolk on October 25, 2012, 06:41:04 PM
I hope to be available for 2013. I heard nothing but good about this event and would love to get in on the EAST side action.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: CD on October 25, 2012, 10:03:05 PM
Jack, those discs wanna go in, you just gotta let 'em. Turn your hand UP, and let 'em fly.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: OpIvy1 on October 26, 2012, 12:09:04 AM
So, I think I have chosen Swope Park to be the venue for the final day of this event.

I believe everyone will enjoy both the doubles and singles match play on this course.

I look forward to captaining the East team, and will have more info soon on how the qualifiers will take place!!

EAST SIDE!!!!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: OpIvy1 on October 26, 2012, 02:55:36 PM
Well then you will have to stay tuned for more info. I will do some digging to find out if swope will be available that weekend.  If not, then i have some other ideas, but until then...
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Timko on October 26, 2012, 03:37:36 PM
While the Corporate Challenge calendar isn't out, Disc Golf is traditionally the first weekend of the Challenge, and is held at Swope on both Saturday and Sunday.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: ekolk on October 26, 2012, 09:13:39 PM
So, why would the club be so concerned about corporate challenge and where it is held. If the event is that weekend, why not try another course, CC? Just a thought. From my perspective, club events should take priority on courses the club maintains. Ryan, you wanna use Swope? Use Swope.

And again, I am super stoked about this event. Kudos to T.W.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Timko on October 27, 2012, 07:59:30 AM
If you had 500 pretty new players on 1 weekend, where would you put them?  It's more of realizing what course fits them best as well. Think of corporate challenge as a philanthropic way to reach out to the community.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on October 27, 2012, 08:55:50 AM
Timko. Cliff Drive is perfect for the corporate challenge. Who doesn't like a dash of danger with their casual disc golf experience? My second best choice would be SM PARK. Lots of parking. And it has that whole, "safe cause it's JoCo" vibe. And 500 people covered with ticks sounds like a great way to spend a weekend. Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Flying J on January 22, 2013, 10:39:18 PM
I want my name on the trophy again.  I'm in.   EAST SIIIIIIIDE!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on January 23, 2013, 08:48:21 AM
EAST SIDE!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: tallguy007kc on January 23, 2013, 08:11:18 PM
SOUTH CENTRAL KS SIDE!!!  :o  :P
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: twoDornottwoD on January 24, 2013, 09:58:11 AM
I'll see you Tall Guy.  and raise you about 400 miles.  to the north east side that is.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: mpetrin on January 29, 2013, 04:36:12 PM
who is on what team????
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: eeastwood on February 01, 2013, 12:50:44 PM
I would recommend that you have named alternates in case someone doesn't show up.  Another suggestion, would be to consider increasing the number of participants, maybe 18 per team.     
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on February 01, 2013, 01:55:32 PM
EAST SIDE!

The WEST side is so worried about their team, that they are mapping it already!  I don't blame them, they got beat worse than a red headed step child at the Ice Bowl by a World Champ!

:-p

EEEEEEAAAST siDE!!!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Tom on February 01, 2013, 02:17:09 PM
EAST SIDE!

The WEST side is so worried about their team, that they are mapping it already!  I don't blame them, they got beat worse than a red headed step child at the Ice Bowl by a World Champ!

:-p

EEEEEEAAAST siDE!!!

Why not just a straight up multi day tourney and take the total scores from both teams and the low number wins? Keeping it simple makes sense, and would more clearly identify the stronger team. (West)
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on February 01, 2013, 05:11:16 PM
I don't care that much, just couldn't resist the EAST SIDE dominance! 

Tracy, I agree entirely with your thoughts on this, and appreciate the efforts.  I only hope to be able to help the East Side again this year, and hopefully not injure myself to give Loomis a false feeling of hope! :P
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: hberciunas on February 01, 2013, 08:36:25 PM
no requirements for a "grand master"?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on February 18, 2013, 04:59:07 PM
Minna and I are in. I could crush Jack's spirits every day for a lifetime and never get tired of it.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Utz on February 18, 2013, 05:19:55 PM
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Eventually. the event being open only.  A masters version of the event could be created.   If we ever get enough women interested in competition, there could be a women's version of the team challenge.

This.

Team Challenge winner would be decided on points from all 3 challenges? That would be sweet. Imagine there's a tie, and the the captains have to play sudden death golf for the title.

Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on February 19, 2013, 09:09:08 AM
Minna and I are in. I could crush Jack's spirits every day for a lifetime and never get tired of it.

One Man's loss is another team victory! 
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on February 21, 2013, 12:42:30 PM
Bummer. If you move it to the Fall, I won't be able to participate. Jack dodges a bullet.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: bensdadfred on February 21, 2013, 01:18:34 PM
Already maneuvering to get out of it Loomis? I figured you would wait until closer to the event to crawdad out!  ;D Love, Fled
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on February 21, 2013, 02:42:29 PM
Not this time, Fred. Minna and I are moving to Europe in June and probably won't be moving back before 2014. Thus, I will have to wait another full year before I can square up at the Team Challenge.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on February 21, 2013, 04:56:13 PM
This is just a suggestion, but what about the week before the Wide Open? The courses should be in pristine shape. The weather will be suitable. The daylight makes for a longer day. And most of the locals involved would be around. My original thought was the week after, but it looks a little busy.

It's up to the bigger brains to decide. We would love to play but we understand if the fall is more suitable for everyone.

Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jamidanger on February 21, 2013, 06:59:31 PM
sounds awesome for first weekend in june
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: eeastwood on February 26, 2013, 09:06:20 AM
Ok, I'm going to move this to June 1/2. It just seems like a better weekend over all.

That weekend works better for me.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on February 26, 2013, 03:49:35 PM
Well....if this is the case, I would love to see some work done on the courses in advance then to have the courses set up in Wide Open fashion, or no on the Swope Gold?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: coops on February 26, 2013, 04:10:04 PM
Swope Gold for the challenge would be pretty sweet.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on February 26, 2013, 08:09:10 PM
Well thank goodness the board doesn't own the courses. WHEW! For a minute there I thought we were in trouble.

My vote. Early June.

There is nothing that the TEAM CHALLENGE would do to interfere, impede, or distract from the KCWO. Even if you do move the CHALLENGE to a different week, does the board think that the courses will magically empty on the weekend before - and remain pristine for the week leading up to -  the WO?

I'm offering my full support for any work that needs done for the Wide Open. OB rope? Tee Signs? Etc, etc.

With the way tournaments POP up in this town almost every weekend, if you push this back any, it will be lost. And i'm not just saying this because I won't be involved if you push it to the fall.



Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Utz on February 27, 2013, 10:53:26 AM
We dont 'own' the courses, no, but we do have live contracts with the city and parks department, as well as provide insurance for events.

Tracy, I was just informing you of the situation. For all events that want the benefits of having KCFDC blessings, we have a protocol that's followed. A tournament proposal is sent to the Board, we review it and make sure there arent any conflicts, and also assist the TD with tournament needs, etc.

I'm just sticking with the protocol that we offer to every TD and potential event. As of right now, there doesnt seem to be any conflicts. Given the type of event, (Fundraiser, Team Challenge, non-pdga) this shouldnt be an issue.

For us, as a Board, not to review the date switch would be unfair to any other potential events.

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I'm offering my full support for any work that needs done for the Wide Open. OB rope? Tee Signs? Etc, etc.
All right! GEP31KCWO's first volunteer!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on February 27, 2013, 12:34:44 PM
This centuries old BS about the contract with the cities and the insurance blah, blah, blah would mean something if this TEAM CHALLENGE was, in fact, a tournament. It has the same tone as a down under winter league or a beer league or any of the dozens of other non-contracted, uninsured events that occur on the courses over the year. And if the events and courses are insured, then expect a bill from me for an injury I sustained on one of "your" courses. To whom should I send that?



Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: ekolk on February 27, 2013, 01:57:52 PM
Send it to the BoD, Loomis. Just like the kid who fell off of 2's teepad at WW a couple of years ago. And what you are forgetting is the course will be closed for Team Challenge. So, no it is not just like Down Under League or Beer League. This is a club sanctioned and supported event.

Just as an FYI, this BoD member pushed to have East West (Team) Challenge take precedent over all other events as it is a club event.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Utz on February 27, 2013, 02:21:45 PM
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Just as an FYI, this BoD member pushed to have East West (Team) Challenge take precedent over all other events as it is a club event.

Me too. I love this event and I want it here to stay!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on February 28, 2013, 08:52:12 AM
THe big difference on the Wide Open isn't from people thinking that they will play the DD event over the WO, it is a simple matter of work that needs to get done on the courses within the timelines for the event, and then having the courses played heavily over that timeframe.

Getting the courses ready is work, and a few step up, many don't.  Many think wow, the P&R did something out here the firs week of June......it is the people that take pride in the courses for the guests on a premiere event.   

It is with this activity that I think that we want to make sure that the courses for the Wide Open are pristine in their appearance for the venue.  Surely some of you can appreciate that.

As for the Team Challenge, it is an event of ~30 people, so I think that the BoD should look at that, realization that the course isn't going to be closed and act accordingly.  It is vastly different from a full field wokring the course.

The fact remains though that the Wide Open will need help, so please help on the courses being slated for use:
WW-Rosie-BV-Swope
:-)
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on February 28, 2013, 09:54:56 AM
correct.  Cliff may be used IF we see registration overfill so much that we need to alter the scenarios accordingly, but at this point I doubt it is used in the event.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: kidmills on February 28, 2013, 12:40:26 PM
is this the "blue" VS "red"
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on February 28, 2013, 12:41:07 PM
I will work on having Cliff in good shape for this as well.  Unsure what configuration will be used by then....uncertain of P&R timeline on the trail, but......the other thing is if I am in Ohio as long as they state, I don't even know if I am going to be back by the 18th of March.... :(

Hope to be though!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: kidmills on February 28, 2013, 01:03:43 PM
is this the "blue" VS "red"

It's the black and blue brawl.
is that the colors that they are useing?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: kidmills on February 28, 2013, 01:21:24 PM
i got a idea for this year................DO NOT WRITE ON THE BENCHES AT WW(BLUE TEAM SUCKS)
that would be a great idea............grow up boys
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on February 28, 2013, 01:25:47 PM
SHO-ME Showed ME, should be the shirts that the West Side wears.....I think that we should start a tradition that the winner gets to pick the shirt for the team the following year!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: kidmills on February 28, 2013, 01:28:11 PM
and remove there writing as well
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on February 28, 2013, 03:22:37 PM
Why is this competition going on? I mean after all, misery ran scared out of the Big 12 to avoid losing to KU again and again and again and again.  ;D

Hmmm.....not sure you were aware, but EAST SIDE crushed the competition last year, so whatever pipe dream of collegiate sports you are worried about has nothing to do with the dominance of the disc golf prowess of those of claiming the MO as their home state.....must have been all the wheat in your eyes to miss that I guess....
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Utz on February 28, 2013, 04:01:45 PM
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EAST SIDE crushed the competition last year, so whatever pipe dream of collegiate sports you are worried about has nothing to do with the dominance of the disc golf prowess of those of claiming the MO as their home state


DAAAYYYUMMMMM!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Peter Bures on February 28, 2013, 07:21:14 PM
*Missouri Meth Joke*
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: kidmills on March 07, 2013, 08:24:52 AM
?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: white mccoy on March 11, 2013, 12:41:03 PM
I'm in.  Nick does live on the Kansas side also.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Ken Franks on March 12, 2013, 09:09:50 AM
I'm in. 

 *like*

Has the date been solidified?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: dickthediscparker on March 12, 2013, 10:37:22 AM
*like*

Does that mean I'm in?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: white mccoy on March 12, 2013, 10:54:14 AM
Can we wear Purple, instead of Blue?  ???
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: dickthediscparker on March 12, 2013, 10:55:16 AM
Can we wear Purple, instead of Blue?  ???

no
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Utz on March 12, 2013, 11:38:32 AM
Ryan,

Have there been any announcements on how MO residents can qualify?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: white mccoy on March 12, 2013, 12:08:08 PM
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Speaking which.  You're shirt size, sir?

Large
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Tom on March 12, 2013, 03:59:24 PM
  • Active KCFDC club members and KC region residents.  (this is loosely enforced. it's basically in place to prevent bringing in ringers from outside the area.)
  • I thought about reducing the requirement for women to just 1, but decided that is lame. We just need to get the ladies excited about taking part in this fun event. So again for 2013, 2 women per squad is required.
  • I will be reducing the number of required masters aged players from 4 (in 2012) to just 3 this year.
  • Each captain gets a spot.
  • That means there will be 10 unrestricted spots on each team.
  • 3 starting spots on each team can be hand picked by their captain.
  • No lottery required for starting 16, but one lottery for an alternate spot must be used
  • Each team is recommended to carry 2-3 alternates.  Alternates can be used at will to start any round. (within class restrictions)

West Side qualifiers:
  • Final scores at the 2013 Kan-U-Wyco, 3 invitations will be offered for unrestricted players and 2 for Masters (40+). (declined invites will go to the next best score in that class).
  • Four invitations (2 unrestricted, 1 masters and 1 woman) will be offered for the top scores at Summer league mini at Prairie Center on April 22
  • Skills challenge as follows:  2 invitations awarded to best putting challenge scores and 2 invitations for best driving accuracy scores. I'll provide more details on the skills event later.  But it will be held on a Sun. afternoon, May 6th, on the warmup field at Rosey.
  • Alternates: one alt spot  will be determined by lottery of all qualifying event participants.  2 more hand picked from "next best" efforts at the qualifying events.
I will be doing the West side Captains picks and alternates selections at the conclusion of the skills qualifying event on May 6th.   

About the West side skills qualifying event:
Putting challenge - You'll have 3 minutes to attempt 3 putts from each of 6 locations.  Total made putts is your score. The players with the top 2 scores will get a spot on the team.
Note: Two attempts at the circuit per person. You can bring as many or as few putters as you want.  You can have a caddy help retrieve/clear discs.

Driving accuracy challenge - Contestants will make 3 throws at each of 3 basket locations (270', 320' and 370').  The closest lie to each pin will be measured. The total of those 4 measured distances will be your score. The 2 players with the shortest total distance will get a spot on the team.
Note: We'll do this in a rotation.  That is, each player will get their mark from location 1.  We'll seed throwing order by the first distance (longest first, shortest last), then throw at location 2.  For locations 3 we'll seed throwing order by combined distance of rounds 1 and 2.

I may try to earn a spot on this team.

I don't think there will be a weekly mini at PC on April 22.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on March 18, 2013, 06:42:04 PM
In an effort to further stir the pot, Do I still qualify as an open player if I don't get one of the Masters spots?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: coops on March 18, 2013, 10:21:20 PM
Open means open, not just anyone under 40.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: ekolk on March 18, 2013, 10:50:50 PM
East side qualifiers??? I couldn't do this last year, but for sure I am down this year. Just waiting to hear from our Capt. Keck.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on March 29, 2013, 10:02:34 PM
Will bribes help?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Peter Bures on March 30, 2013, 08:15:50 PM
Apparently Prairie Center summer league is no more.  ???   As such, no qualifier for West Team will be held there.   :( I will announce an alternative shortly.

I know of a Kansas side course where we could have qualifiers....

*hint hint*
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on April 01, 2013, 09:52:48 AM
West Side will invade Mo. territory for our final qualifier on May 9th at Water Works summer league.
This stings.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: The Bird Father on April 01, 2013, 10:02:46 AM
Apparently Prairie Center summer league is no more.  ???   As such, no qualifier for West Team will be held there.   :( I will announce an alternative shortly.

Because league is at Birdland....why not have the qualifier there???
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Utz on April 01, 2013, 10:07:55 AM
OH CAPTAIN MY CAPTAIN, wherefore art thou?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Tom on April 01, 2013, 10:39:43 AM
Apparently Prairie Center summer league is no more.  ???   As such, no qualifier for West Team will be held there.   :( I will announce an alternative shortly.

Tracy,

The KCFDC Summer league in Olathe is commencing at the course two miles from Prairie Center. It's called Lakeside Hills (aka Birdland). The KCFDC league will most prpobably be there for the month of April, and then, depending on the majority of regulars' wishes either stay there or shift to PC.

The team qualifier could be at Birdland, but if you want to have it someplace else I don't really care. It does seem somewhat silly to have it someplace other than in Kansas (Olathe, SMP, Rosey, Wyco) to me, but do it however makes the most sense to ya.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: coops on April 01, 2013, 02:17:55 PM
It's Tracy's thing, he can do what he wants. He wants his team to be built upon certain skills that are closest to those displayed at WW.

I don't think anyone would disagree that WW and Lakeside require very different types of play.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Tom on April 01, 2013, 02:44:11 PM
There WILL BE a Summer gathering weekly at PC....ON FRIDAY NIGHTS.  :P
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on April 01, 2013, 02:50:47 PM
I still say that the East West Challenge should be done at Thornfield or at a temp course designed by non-combatants. Or, it could be done like the America's Cup and the tournament shifts to the state who won the last competition. As far as the qualifiers go; I would rather the try outs occur on the course which is being used in the competition. If we are using WYCO, then we should try out on WYCO.

Some day, Loose Park is going to have a great temp course put up which we can play for an hour before we get run out of the park. Some day.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Tom on April 01, 2013, 03:04:33 PM
Tracy,

 I'm not burned out on PC. It is suffering from overuse and by keeping league away, I am saving some foot traffic there. Also, it's entirely possible the baskets will not be there while the City has them in the shop getting painted and re-furbished.

 Also, the new course needs as much traffic as possible, to "beat it down" some and smooth out the fairways and the rough. It also is helping me see where boxes might be placed in better spots.

 I'm not frustrated at all. It's yer deal and whatever you think makes sense is fine. As for holding league at PC on the date you "announced"on March 12, I did immediately reply that league would not be there that night. Sorry if your plans didn't work with mine.

 I do agree with Daniel that the qualifiers should be played on the actual courses used in the event though.

 I was the captian (and chose my team) of my 9th grade first semester PE class flag football team......we didn't lose ANY games.....just sayin.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on April 01, 2013, 03:32:34 PM
What about the temp course idea? Would anyone be ready to compete on a course blind? That, I think, is the true measure of disc golf talent - the way someone plays a course without any knowledge of what to throw, where to throw, or how hard to throw it. To illustrate my point: Arturo's first round at USDGC back in 2008 (?) was his first round on the course and he didn't do well at all. However, he knew what he was doing the second round and tore it up. I think if we can tap into that "talent" level we would have a pretty good measure of the teams.

Or we could just play endurance golf where we start at 5 AM and just keep playing, non-stop, until there is only one player left standing. I like that idea too.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on April 01, 2013, 03:42:20 PM
It is and it isn't. There are two ways of reading the results. I think it will definitely level the playing field and that's a plus.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on April 01, 2013, 04:03:07 PM
Arturo is talented, but he failed to make the necessary adjustments to his game to be successful. He has the shots in his bag, but he wasn't able to take the information given to him by the tournament to create the shots he needed to shoot a good score. So he has talent, but he didn't know how to make adjustments. The second round he was able to apply his talent to his previous experience and shoot a good score. This is common with most players. Most people are complacent in their shot making because they know what disc to use on what hole. They've played that hole so many times it doesn't bother them when they step on the tee pad. But when you put these players in new positions - "playing it blind" - that's when their abilities really showcase themselves. Most "talented" people expose a weakness in their game which they don't develop - learning how to MAKE a shot not from what they see, but from what information they are given. If I say "this hole is uphill, 400 feet, wind is right to left, with OB on the left." what would you throw? OR, if I say, we are going to play WW hole 14. basket is in the far position. winds right to left. What would you throw? Most players familiar with WW will know what to throw, but how many people know what to throw for the first hole description? That's the difference between MAKING (or shaping) a shot - which is one kind of talent, of which there are many.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on April 01, 2013, 04:14:44 PM
i'd be confused because that isn't the same hole you gave me the information on......WW #14 is downhill......
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Utz on April 01, 2013, 04:25:53 PM
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And Yes....WW is much easier than Lakeside

Ehhh....I wont even go there..
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: ekolk on April 01, 2013, 05:03:49 PM
With all the factions on the west side, I am sure am glad I'm on the east. I talked to east side captain, Ryan Keck, yesterday and he said he would have details this week.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: OpIvy1 on April 04, 2013, 03:01:13 PM
I apologize for the delay!  Things have been crazy busy for me and my family.  The first qualifier for the East Side will take place on Monday April 15th at the Cliff driveleague night.  I will be taking the top 4 in Open, as well as the top 2 in masters.  Will be on the hunt for the 2 available women's spots as well.  Remember that it is $25 if you did not qualify last year, and $10 if you did, and still have your shirt.  I will also be scoping out for my 2 captains pick. 

My second qualifier will be held at the Water Works league night on Thursday May 2nd.

Again, sorry for the delay, and I will see you all out there!!  Let's make it 2 in row!!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: OpIvy1 on April 04, 2013, 03:08:48 PM
So, I just realized that April 15th is the day after the GBO.  I will be switching it to the following Monday night, April 22nd.  Sorry about the confusion!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: kevinmzane on April 07, 2013, 08:00:18 PM
Is the 2nd the last/only chance left to qualify for the KS team?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on April 17, 2013, 03:48:40 PM
On the table: A few new challenges...

Distance competition. With accuracy included? Driver, Putter, and Midrange?
Putting competition. Timed? Obstacles? Turbo, Loft, Spin and Opposite Hand?
GUTZ. Fully weighted discs?


And a booze round.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: eeastwood on April 17, 2013, 06:17:52 PM
Don't forget "Thigh Curl Contest" 

The Office - Turf War (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ioLou2srlE#ws)

I would pay to see that happen.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ioLou2srlE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ioLou2srlE#ws)
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: OpIvy1 on April 22, 2013, 11:23:03 AM
So, as of this minute, the qualifier for the East side is still on.  If the weather turns on us, or starts to get nasty before league starts, then I will postpone to next monday the 29th.  Stay tuned for more info......
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: mperry on April 22, 2013, 04:00:13 PM
Looks like the rain is going to hit. Are you going to move it back?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on April 22, 2013, 04:12:05 PM
I would prefer to not play out on the course tonight.  I know that it looks nice from the cleanup this weekend, but I think that next week may be better.

The issue is that I will probably be out of town next week due to work.....so I will be looking for someone to fill in running league next week as well.....
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: OpIvy1 on April 22, 2013, 10:46:48 PM
So it ended up being a beautiful, but slightly soggy night.  We did play as scheduled.  I took the top 5 overall scores from the night that were playing for a qualifying spot, plus myself.  The now 6 spots taken are as follows:

CD Steiner
Jose Ossa
Zeke Henry
Jack Lowe
Jamie Danger
Ryan Keck

That means that I have 4 more Open spots, 2 more Masters, 2 Women, and 2 Captains pick.  Also I will be in need of Alternates, so don't be afraid to come out and try to qualify.  Odds are you may get to play one day or the other even if you don't automatically qualify!!  My next qualifier is at Water Works league on May 2nd!!  Reminder that it is $25 if you did not play last year, and $10 if you did, AND still have your shirt. 

BACK TO BACK!!  EAST SIDE!!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: OpIvy1 on April 29, 2013, 08:00:24 PM
Just a reminder that my final qualifier for the East will be at Water Works league this thursday May, 2nd!!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Utz on April 30, 2013, 07:27:33 AM
Sweet. Might be a little chilly this Thursday but we'll still throw down. EastSiders arent scared!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: CRAMNATION7 on April 30, 2013, 05:42:59 PM
So am I to understand that even if I play water works and have a good round the only way I can make the team is by a captains pick because im under 40 and a male? Let me know if I misunderstood this.  Thanks
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: eeastwood on April 30, 2013, 06:40:48 PM
You misunderstood.  There are still 4 open spots available.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: AWalters on April 30, 2013, 09:37:41 PM

That means that I have 4 more Open spots, 2 more Masters, 2 Women, and 2 Captains pick.  Also I will be in need of Alternates, so don't be afraid to come out and try to qualify. 
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: CRAMNATION7 on May 01, 2013, 04:36:57 AM
Thanks. Wasn't sure if " open" ment skill level or just that's how many slots were left. 
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: OpIvy1 on May 01, 2013, 10:36:42 AM
I am not solely choosing from those that play OPEN.  I am looking at all scores and taking the top from the entire field.  This means that a rec player could have a hot round and qualify. 

On a side note, we will have to play it by ear again for tomorrows qualifier.  If it is cold and snowing/raining heavily tomorrow, we may reschedule.

Sweet. Might be a little chilly this Thursday but we'll still throw down. EastSiders arent scared!

Played in the rain once for a qualifer, so Utz has it right!  We'll see what happens tomorrow though!!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Utz on May 01, 2013, 12:48:49 PM
For sure! we'll keep our noses to the air.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on May 01, 2013, 01:26:53 PM
EAST SIDE=We play in the rain, we play in the snow, we play when its cold, we play when it is hot....How many 1000 rated golfers in KS right now?  How many in MO right now?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: OpIvy1 on May 02, 2013, 12:34:49 AM
Ryan please get shirt sizes and money from each qualifier.  I'd also suggest compiling a contact info list of each player on your team.

Money and contact info... check so far.  I will get shirt sizes asap!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jamidanger on May 02, 2013, 01:22:36 AM
danger XL
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on May 02, 2013, 09:07:51 AM
I have mine, I wouldn't mind getting a Blue BIrd one though to have some fun made of it.....
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: OpIvy1 on May 02, 2013, 01:17:58 PM
i'm going to go ahead and postpone my qualifier for tonight.  I am already feeling under the weather, and can't afford to get sick.  As soon as i decide on a make up day, i will post something.  Please stay tuned for more info......
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: ekolk on May 02, 2013, 02:11:28 PM
Cool. Thanks I agree. How about next Thursday?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: coops on May 02, 2013, 03:32:54 PM
EAST SIDE=We play in the rain, we play in the snow, we play when its cold, we play when it is hot....How many 1000 rated golfers in KS right now?  How many in MO right now?

*Except at Cliff Drive
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: coops on May 02, 2013, 06:13:43 PM
Arturo isn't current, but he is 1000 (and probably in the 1010 range). Tank just dipped, but he's close enough to say he's 1000. Closest you guys have (in the KC area) is Jake who is 990, which is pretty dang close.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Ken Franks on May 02, 2013, 07:21:24 PM
EAST SIDE=We play in the rain, we play in the snow, we play when its cold, we play when it is hot....How many 1000 rated golfers in KS right now?  How many in MO right now?

 West side = one golfer has more OPEN wins than your entire team, combined!!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: dickthediscparker on May 02, 2013, 07:34:53 PM
boom.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jhinck2 on May 02, 2013, 07:49:45 PM
Again, scoreboard. Just be glad I have a broken leg this year Tank.... ;)
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Ken Franks on May 02, 2013, 08:36:47 PM
Micheal J Fox called, he said stop living in the past!!!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: mperry on May 02, 2013, 11:38:13 PM
East side has the highest finisher in the GBO...
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jamidanger on May 02, 2013, 11:47:57 PM
most relevant stat is : as of may 2013, east 1 west 0
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: coops on May 03, 2013, 08:05:51 AM
East side has the highest finisher in the GBO...

Actually it was the West side. Tank was the highest KC finisher in the Open field.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Utz on May 03, 2013, 08:06:36 AM
Second most relevant fact: Kansas City KS is like Kansas City, MO's smelly, ugly little brother
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on May 03, 2013, 08:30:08 AM
I like this debate, it's like two special needs kids fighting over whose boogers taste better.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jhinck2 on May 03, 2013, 08:38:00 AM
Micheal J Fox called, he said stop living in the past!!!

Karl Marx called. He said that history repeats itself, first as tragedy (blow out by the EAST SIDE), second as farce (comical that West Side is coming back for more).
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on May 03, 2013, 09:07:25 AM
East side = Hasim Rahman of disc golf.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jamidanger on May 03, 2013, 09:25:28 AM
west side = clinton boldridge of disc golf
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on May 03, 2013, 09:35:59 AM
Isn't Clinton from St. Joe? Hmmmm
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: mperry on May 03, 2013, 12:54:15 PM
East side has the highest finisher in the GBO...

Actually it was the West side. Tank was the highest KC finisher in the Open field.
I was talking about overall score
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Utz on May 03, 2013, 01:19:40 PM
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I was talking about overall score

(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130301195259/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/1/1e/Oh_burn.gif)

2 strokes worth of tha burn!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: coops on May 03, 2013, 03:01:47 PM
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I was talking about overall score

(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130301195259/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/1/1e/Oh_burn.gif)

2 strokes worth of tha burn!

Different courses on different days (and really even rounds) make the scores incomparable. At that point you have to default to the highest division.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Utz on May 03, 2013, 03:17:12 PM
I dunno man, I dont really buy it. then you'd have 8am tee-time guys saying 2pm tee-time guys scores aren't comparable.

You cant give Tank the nod just because he played open. Conditions are really irrelevant. we all played the same courses.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: dickthediscparker on May 03, 2013, 03:56:01 PM
Competition alone makes it incomparable. You can't tell me Matt or ANY Amateur would play the same against that field. Crazy talk.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jhinck2 on May 03, 2013, 04:06:51 PM
Just cuz your a****** puckers when you play the pros doesn't mean that Matt's would. In fact most people play up to their competition. Just sayin'

Hey Utz, throw that BURN gif in there again would ya?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: mperry on May 03, 2013, 04:10:06 PM
I played some of the best golf I've ever played at the Branson cedars tournament with will Schusterick on my card...
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: coops on May 03, 2013, 04:50:16 PM
I dunno man, I dont really buy it. then you'd have 8am tee-time guys saying 2pm tee-time guys scores aren't comparable.

You cant give Tank the nod just because he played open. Conditions are really irrelevant. we all played the same courses.

They often aren't comparable. In Felberg's video-blog that Matt posted about on something (here or Facebook, I don't care to look back) he spoke of how, especially when the wind is gusty, you can't even compare your throw to someone who is teeing right before or after you. I think that is taking it a little too far, but the point is still valid.

Think back to the US Open (ball golf variety) a couple years back at Bethpage Black. The afternoon tee times got hosed because a giant storm came through and then the very next day, when they flip the tee times they got hammered again. The opposite tees, though, had a much easier go of it and had a much higher percentage of golfers that made the cut from those times.

My point was really, though, that in different conditions on different courses and with different competition the scores are not comparable and at that point the nod has to go to the Open field.

Winning Am is a great accomplishment and I'm not trying to take anything away from that feat. I am just saying that if you want to consider high KC finisher for that weekend it should come from the higher division.

And the wonderful thing is that all of this arguing is really irrelevant. We'll get to battle it out on the course to see who will come out on top. You guys got us last year (no thanks to Arturo's boss!) but I would imagine things will shake out a little bit different this year. Enjoy that trophy while you can.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on May 03, 2013, 05:02:11 PM
A 40 mph wind is much more of a factor at the Country Club than it is at Jones. Much more. And as I see it, the AMs got it easy with their schedule getting to play Jones last. The argument that conditions don't make a difference is moronic.

 Conditions are really irrelevant. we all played the same courses.

If this statement was true, then by definition Utz's playing a round at 3 AM should be seen as the same round that I play on the same course at 3 pm.

AND

Conditions are incredible relevant, hence their mention in the TD's report to the PDGA.

I'm not taking anything away from Mr. Perry - he seems pretty happy with his rounds and I'm sure his momma has them posted on the fridge, I respect that - but don't pop the top on the bubbly just yet.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: CRAMNATION7 on May 03, 2013, 05:16:40 PM
Good thing this is a team challenge and not individual. West side might have the best player but who has the best team? We'll have to wait and see.
But I do think east needs to at least have " try outs" with the best players there. Bad weather and bad communication ( from what I've heard) is why a lot of people didn't go to cliff for the first one.

Just saying  ;D

Jay Cram
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: mperry on May 03, 2013, 05:21:24 PM
Hey don't bring mommas into this! People take s*** talk way to seriously on this forum.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Tom on May 03, 2013, 05:30:10 PM
I hope the captains can each post their team members list a few day before the event. It will be interesting to look at the match-ups in advance.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: OpIvy1 on May 04, 2013, 02:22:08 AM
Good thing this is a team challenge and not individual. West side might have the best player but who has the best team? We'll have to wait and see.
But I do think east needs to at least have " try outs" with the best players there. Bad weather and bad communication ( from what I've heard) is why a lot of people didn't go to cliff for the first one.

Just saying  ;D

Jay Cram

info was posted plenty of time in advance, with confirmations by both myself and the individual running league before, and day of.  If anyone has any concerns contact me.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: OpIvy1 on May 04, 2013, 02:45:53 AM
That being said, I will be making up for the snowed out round this coming Thursday, May 9th, at Water Works.  That will mean that both East and West will actually be holding a qualifier on the same night...  Do I smell a preview of things to come.  Hopefully the whining will stop, and people will come out and have some fun.

I have 4 more Open spots, 2 more Masters, 2 Women, and 2 Captains pick.  I will be choosing based on overall score.  That means that if you play advanced, you still can qualify. 
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Flying J on May 04, 2013, 10:59:22 AM
Sure sounds like the West is still eating the Bitternut Squash Soup we Eastsiders served them last September. 

 
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on May 04, 2013, 11:30:05 AM
I think it's pretty obvious that the east didn't win but rather the west failed to perform up to their ability thus creating an opportunity. This defiency opened the door for the less talented east side to take advantage and walk away just as stunned in their victory as the west side is with the upset. Its a Waterloo. David vs Goliath. Lesser talent prevailed, something I'm sure everyone who sees this believes as well. Including the bitternut soup chefs from the east.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Flying J on May 04, 2013, 11:38:00 AM
Double digits.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jamidanger on May 04, 2013, 11:42:51 AM
sample the broth of lemon grass soup, you will think clearly and heal quickly
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jhinck2 on May 04, 2013, 11:51:15 AM
Man I'm pissed that I can't play. Tired of all the excuses. A loss is a loss Loomis. Call it what you want. Have no doubts that the east side will prove again who takes the cake. I'll be with you in spirit boys, good luck.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: coops on May 04, 2013, 03:31:12 PM
Man I'm pissed that I can't play. Tired of all the excuses. A loss is a loss Loomis. Call it what you want. Have no doubts that the east side will prove again who takes the cake. I'll be with you in spirit boys, good luck.

Excuses are different than reasons.

I think there is a solid point to be made that if Arturo's boss had let him off in the morning that we could have come away with a win. It is as simple as this: Slim didn't show and neither did Arturo. If Arturo were there you cannot make me believe that him with someone else would have beaten a single in the morning. That goes in as a 4 point swing (from a loss of 2 points to a win of 2 points). It is a very simple step from there to think that if we weren't down by as much that people may have performed better (less pressing in the afternoon).

I don't think anyone would say that that is how it would have happened, but it certainly is a plausible, reasoned extrapolation of the events.

Nobody is saying guys didn't play great, all we're saying is that you played too well and that we like the talent that we can assemble on this side of the state line a little better.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Ken Franks on May 04, 2013, 03:35:16 PM
I was talking about overall score

 congrats on beating a buncha ams!!  ;)

  AND you played the courses on different days

 PLUS, We played the toughest course in the toughest condition, on Sunday...

 
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Ken Franks on May 04, 2013, 03:47:11 PM
I was talking about overall score

 congrats on beating a buncha ams!!  ;)

  AND you played the courses on different days

 PLUS, We played the toughest course in the toughest condition, on Sunday...

 ALL equal Irrelevant...!!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: mperry on May 04, 2013, 04:32:52 PM
Cooper you can play that Arturo card all you want but the point is the victory wasn't a fluke. The east side won. Very decisively. Typical jayhawker making excuses. Quit worrying about the what ifs and move on to this year, focus on how to keep us from repeating. I can tell you now it won't be easy.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jhinck2 on May 04, 2013, 05:06:29 PM
Cooper you can play that Arturo card all you want but the point is the victory wasn't a fluke. The east side won. Very decisively. Typical jayhawker making excuses. Quit worrying about the what ifs and move on to this year, focus on how to keep us from repeating. I can tell you now it won't be easy.

Can I get a retweet?

I'm not the caliber of Arturo, but if east side loses this year lets just write it off like Coop is doing cuz we are missing a player - who beat your best player last year head to head. All in good fun here boys, let the scores do the talking.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: coops on May 04, 2013, 05:09:57 PM
Cooper you can play that Arturo card all you want but the point is the victory wasn't a fluke. The east side won. Very decisively. Typical jayhawker making excuses. Quit worrying about the what ifs and move on to this year, focus on how to keep us from repeating. I can tell you now it won't be easy.

I'm not playing any card, Matt. I'm using reason to point out that things could have been different last year. Not that they should have been or were different or that we got screwed or unlucky or that the world hates us, just that they could have been different.

And I don't think anyone on either side should think it will be easy to win this challenge. There are skilled players on both sides but I can tell you that we certainly expect to win. (As you guys should also probably expect to win.)

As far as the how to keep you from repeating: I think the answer just comes down to playing well. A number of players had off rounds last year and it changed the outcome. I think avoiding those sorts of bad rounds will be sufficient.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: coops on May 04, 2013, 05:12:51 PM
Cooper you can play that Arturo card all you want but the point is the victory wasn't a fluke. The east side won. Very decisively. Typical jayhawker making excuses. Quit worrying about the what ifs and move on to this year, focus on how to keep us from repeating. I can tell you now it won't be easy.

Can I get a retweet?

I'm not the caliber of Arturo, but if east side loses this year lets just write it off like Coop is doing cuz we are missing a player - who beat your best player last year head to head. All in good fun here boys, let the scores do the talking.

It certainly is wonderful to have an argument mis-characterized and then attacked isn't it? Oh wait, no, that is called Strawman and it is a fallacy.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: phisherman_77 on May 04, 2013, 05:46:13 PM
Apply all the logical arguments you want, it won't change what happened.  It's in the books and over.  Accept it and move on. 
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Peter Bures on May 04, 2013, 05:58:03 PM
Man this thread hurts to read. Worst trash talk ever by both sides.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jhinck2 on May 04, 2013, 06:07:52 PM
Man this thread hurts to read. Worst trash talk ever by both sides.

All in good fun! This is the song that never ends!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: coops on May 04, 2013, 06:21:08 PM
Apply all the logical arguments you want, it won't change what happened.  It's in the books and over.  Accept it and move on.

And again, a strawman! No one is claiming that it would, is, will, could, can, should, shall, or must.

The ONLY reason I pointed any of this out is that I don't want you guys to get too full of yourselves. It could have easily gone another direction and I was pointing that out. I guess if you haughtily want to believe that it is utterly impossible that you could have lost last year (or even just that it could have been closer) then go right ahead; I cannot argue with such nonsense.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: coops on May 04, 2013, 06:23:15 PM
Man this thread hurts to read. Worst trash talk ever by both sides.

My head hurts trying to get people from Missouri to understand logic.

And I hope that none of my comments have been mistaken as trash talk (except maybe the one right above this line). I find trash talk to be boring. I'll argue but only from logic and reason. And I'll be excited when this thing is behind us and the trophy is back on this side of the state line.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: bensdadfred on May 04, 2013, 06:51:44 PM
good luck
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on May 04, 2013, 07:12:03 PM
Hinck is right. He lucked out and won his match. And while the east side shines the light on "win," it's undenialable that the key phrase is "lucked out."
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: phisherman_77 on May 04, 2013, 07:18:51 PM
Now you're just trolling.  ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: OpIvy1 on May 04, 2013, 07:33:53 PM
Now who's to say that slim wouldn't have pulled some points too.  Automatically counting him as zero isn't nice at all!! 

(insert random trash here!!) 

Sorry!  I just wanted to feel like I was the part of the conversation!  See everyone Thursday!!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Ken Franks on May 04, 2013, 07:46:40 PM
That's it, I'm moving to Iowa...
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: OpIvy1 on May 04, 2013, 07:53:25 PM
That's it, I'm moving to Iowa...

Then it will turn into a tri-state battle! 
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: coops on May 04, 2013, 08:32:22 PM
Now who's to say that slim wouldn't have pulled some points too.  Automatically counting him as zero isn't nice at all!! 

(insert random trash here!!) 

Sorry!  I just wanted to feel like I was the part of the conversation!  See everyone Thursday!!

A well-reasoned response.

I would certainly concur with that line of reasoning. The reason I discounted Slim wasn't because of his play it was two-fold: 1. I, personally, never found out why he wasn't there. It was very much easier for me to excuse the absence of Arturo who would have been there if not for work. 2. Arturo is a more highly rated player than Slim. Yes, Slim tears up many a course but on the whole Arturo tears them up more.

But I do concede, if Slim were there and Arturo were not it could/would have been even more lopsided a loss for our side.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Flying J on May 04, 2013, 09:12:31 PM
I think we are forgetting one thing here too.  The West got out-captained as well.  Jake did a beautiful job with his matchups on the second day.

There's also something to be said about being over confident.  The West came in last year as the hands-down favorite to win.  It was predicted to be a massacre.  The East prepared well for the event and wanted the win more than the West.  We knew it was going to take our best effort to earn the win.  The West made the mistake of thinking they won before the event even started. 

In the end, it is our names who will forever remain just below the eagle on the trophy. Immortalized as the inaugural champions of a great yearly tradition.  The plaques won't read who the pre-challenge favorite was, only history will, and history will give future underdog teams the proof to show how little it means to be the clear cut favorite to win.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: coops on May 04, 2013, 09:40:23 PM
Yeah, there's that too. Jake did great with the second round matchups but I think we still had enough talent to break through. Really my biggest error I think was in my own matchup. I was hesitant to put myself in one of the top 3 or 4 spots even though I should have been there. I think the matchup with Crowe would be a fun one this year, but last year and especially in that round it just wasn't an even fight. (He's gone up 10 points since October and it'll be even more than that when a couple low rounds drop at the year point).

All that being said I think I got some of the matchups I really wanted too. I loved Tank against Jordan since Rosedale is a putters course. I loved the top of the bracket Arturo against Jake game. I got the women the way I wanted them.

Probably the biggest thing I think I did wrong last year, too, was not knowing the East Side well enough. I basically only knew the guys who regularly played Open in tournaments. I didn't know how strong Eric Eastwood and Matt Perry (especially) were. I think that will be remedied this year. I'm also happy I won't have to make the picks. Though in another situation I would like my odds in picking something like this I don't think I can be objective enough about my own play and would rather not have to do it. Tracy will be a huge upgrade at captain this year.

It'll be a fun one.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Ken Franks on May 04, 2013, 10:55:53 PM
All that being said I think I got some of the matchups I really wanted too. I loved Tank against Jordan since Rosedale is a putters course.

 That course fits my eye worse than any course in the metro area...
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Tom on May 05, 2013, 06:57:59 AM
There's also something to be said about being over confident.  The West Rocky Balboa came in last year as the hands-down favorite to win.  It was predicted to be a massacre.  The East Mr. T (Clubber Land) prepared well for the event and wanted the win more than the West Rocky.  We Mr. T knew itwas going to take our best effort to earn the win.  The West Rocky made the mistake of thinking they won before the event even started. 

Now let's see if the West can do to the East what Rocky did to Clubber Lang in the rematch......  ;D

I just wish I was a good enough player to get in this game. If I lived on the East side I would take Jack's place.  ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Mike Hyzer on May 05, 2013, 07:43:27 AM
Hinck is right. He lucked out and won his match. And while the east side shines the light on "win," it's undenialable that the key phrase is "lucked out."

Sounds like the Memphis/KU National Championship game. ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jamidanger on May 05, 2013, 07:51:10 AM
wow, must be very difficult to pronounce any word with the letter "w" when one is sobbing.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: KCVinnie on May 05, 2013, 08:44:59 AM
Sounds like the Memphis/KU National Championship game. ;D
Peter's post was my favorite in the thread until this one.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on May 05, 2013, 08:56:26 AM
They don't call it "Mario's miracle" for nothing. Though the best basketball comparison of lesser talent winning a match over a vastly superior team would have to be any of the Mizzou victories over Kansas. There are a few to pick from and they are all equally shocking and unbelievable.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: hartfoundation on May 06, 2013, 01:11:05 AM
Put me in Coach!! I'm lovin this !!! Cliff , wyco !!  Bag tag,36 .   Hunting 01 tag!!!!!! Hart foundation  ready n pumped to compete! It would be an honor to be in the mix!! KH
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on May 06, 2013, 09:03:17 AM
suffering a 1st degree tear in my calf and trying to play the second round did us no service at all.  i tried to play well, but injured as I was who knows... :P

I just admired the trophy on Friday night as a matter of fact.  Talk is cheap, and the win is the win, what if/could of's, should of's, if only....

Bring it on to the house of the best folks.  East Side.  I should know by this week if we are going to be playing a "new" tract at cliff, or if it will be delayed until later (I am guessing that is the case...)
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on May 06, 2013, 10:35:37 AM
Is Waterworks part of the challenge this year?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on May 06, 2013, 10:39:29 AM
Is Waterworks part of the challenge this year?

Please refer to page 1 of
http://kcfdc.org/forum/index.php?topic=8422.0 (http://kcfdc.org/forum/index.php?topic=8422.0)

Geesh, do we have to drive these guys to the courses as well? ;D :P
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on May 06, 2013, 10:50:02 AM
Then let's have the west side qualifier at Cliff or Wyco.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Ken Franks on May 06, 2013, 09:50:41 PM

Saturday, June 1st, 5:20 (first card) at Wyco for alternate shot doubles.

5:20?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jamidanger on May 06, 2013, 10:21:27 PM
c'mon it's saturday! how about 8:16???????????
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on May 07, 2013, 09:45:24 AM
yes
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on May 07, 2013, 10:28:25 AM
I am ok with it, but I know that Danger has to work generally by 4 on Saturday's, so it puts him out of it.... :'(
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jamidanger on May 07, 2013, 10:46:53 AM
oh i can be late THAT saturday, but a 3pm start would be way cool junior, and can an alternate be inserted mid round?
http://youtu.be/0VUP4thpr3c (http://youtu.be/0VUP4thpr3c)
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Peter Bures on May 08, 2013, 01:00:36 AM
So I won't be able to make the last qualifier at WW this week (friend's bachelor party) but I'm happy to be an alternate or fill-in if the KS side needs spots.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: OpIvy1 on May 09, 2013, 01:21:46 PM
Qualifier this evening at Water Works league. Several spots up for grabs on both teams.

Ditto!!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Tracy on May 09, 2013, 03:19:38 PM
Kansas City Flying Disc Club
Team Championship

 
Purpose:
An annual KCFDC disc golf event to benefit the club and build local camaraderie around a team style competition.
The Event:
A matchplay points accumulation competition of three rounds over two days.  One round of alternate shot doubles (8 mtaches), one round of best shot doubles (8 matches) and one round of singles (16 matches). That means there are 32 points available.  The defending champion can retain the Team Trophy, if they obtain 16 or more points.  The challenger must score 16.5 points or more to take the Team Trophy away from the defending champion.  The winning team will get all their player's names put on the purpetual trophy.
The Players:
Teams will be comprised of 16 players (plus alternates) from their region, Kansas or Missouri, based on residency.  All players must be current KCFDC members and/or active members of the Kansas City area disc golf community. A ~50 mile radius from the conflux of the KS and MO rivers shall be used to determine the approximate region.
  Host Team:
As an annual event, each side will alternate taking the status of Host Team.  Odd years (2013, 2015, etc.) will be hosted by the Missouri team.  Even years (2014, 2016, etc.) will be hosted by the Kansas team. Host Team status means this:  Choice of course to be played for the two Sunday rounds;  a round of best shot doubles (8 matches) and a round of singles (16 matches).  As such 24 points of the event are competed on the Host Teams home course.  The “guest team” hosts the round of alternate shot doubles on a course of their choice on Saturday.
Captains Responsibilies:
Each team captain will be repsonsible for the formation of his/her team through qualifiers and/or hand picks. The captains will also determine matchups as follows:
Prior to each doubles round, the captains will hold a snake style draft. The “home” team captain has the option to put out the first pairing, or defer, in which case the other captain is obligated to put out the first pairing.  Prior to the singles round the same will happen, except the team with the points lead after the first two rounds will get the option to pick or defer.  If there is a tie in points after the first two rounds, the home team gets the option.
Pairings and matchups are unrestricted.  That is to say, it is not required to put players of the same class together  or against each other.  For example. A master may be paired with an unrestricted player and they may be matched against a women and a master.  It is up to the captain to decide how they want their players paired/matched up.
The Competition:
In this championship, there are 32 matches played. Each match is worth a total of 1 point.  1 point to the winning team and 0 to the losing team or a half point to each team if the match winds up even (a tie). Each round has a different sub-format, but all are matchplay scored. Essentially, each hole is a mini game with one point available.  The team that finsihes the hole in the least strokes wins the hole. It's all or nothing on each hole.  There is no carry over, this is not skins play. Once it becomes mathematically impossible for one to team overcome the other, based on remaining holes (points), the match is over.
The three sub-formats played are as follows:
  Pairings will be sent off one card at a time from hole one at each round. Each doubles match will have its own card. 2 matches will be sent out on each singles card.
Remember, the defending champion needs only 16 points to retain the trophy. The challenger needs 16.5 points to win the trophy.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on May 10, 2013, 10:05:43 AM
So.... Who made the team?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: thankyoupeter on May 10, 2013, 03:08:45 PM
East side roster?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: dickthediscparker on May 10, 2013, 03:19:48 PM
The who?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: thankyoupeter on May 10, 2013, 03:42:54 PM
The who?

Excuse me.  The defending champs.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: dickthediscparker on May 10, 2013, 03:53:39 PM
Doesn't ring a bell.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: OpIvy1 on May 10, 2013, 04:21:50 PM
I will have all players posted for the East when I get off work this evening because I don't want to leave anyone out.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on May 10, 2013, 09:37:48 PM
So...
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: coops on May 10, 2013, 10:02:46 PM
I think he works late, Loomis, so...
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Utz on May 11, 2013, 01:11:24 AM
Hey Westsiders, allow me to count how many championships the East has won.

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Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: OpIvy1 on May 11, 2013, 02:32:15 AM
So here it is.... The East Side!

Amanda Jackson
Jose Ossa
CD Steiner
Jack Lowe
Zeke Henry
Jamie "Danger" Berry
Eric Kolkmeier
Eric Eastwood
Matt Perry
Jake Bowen
Mike Thomas
Kevin Manning
Ryan Keck
Caleb Walker
Dave Valdiviez

Alternates:
Vince Como
Mark "General" Mills
BJ Font

If you notice something missing... that's because it is.  I am still in need of one more woman and some more alternates.  If you fit this criteria, please contact me!!  Thank you!!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Ken Franks on May 12, 2013, 08:36:14 AM
Hey Westsiders, allow me to count how many championships the East has won.

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 Classy, but that's we come to expect from the state that cant even spell correctly....
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on May 14, 2013, 10:01:56 AM
Cliff Drive Set Up-
1-Original
2-Long
3-Only
4-Rocks
5-Short
6-far right (Original)
7-Short (rd 1) Long (rd 2)
8-Hangar (rd1) Long (rd 2)
9-Only
10-Long
11-Long
12-Only
13-Short (rd1) Long (rd2)
14-Long Left (rd 1) Short (rd2)
15-Under Tree
16-Original
17-Peninsula
18-By road

Are we shotguning on Sunday?  If so I would request to be on the last card then I can change as we play the course through.  I will work on getting the course set up in this configuration by this weekend for people to play.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on May 14, 2013, 11:38:10 AM
What I may do then is unlock each basket as we play and then so that if people want to help it will be easier on everyone.

FWIW-

Rd 1 @ Cliff (Blue & Red Layout-yeah it's shorter, you know why)
Front 9=2726
Back 9=4073
Total=6799

Rd 2 @ Cliff (Black and Gold Layout-yeah it's black and gold, and there are a thousand reasons those colors are better....)
Front 9=3090
Back 9=4268
Total=7358
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on May 15, 2013, 08:16:26 AM
A thousand?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on May 15, 2013, 08:25:34 AM
yep, 1000, let me start with the Steelers, and the Hawkeyes for this MO transplant.  (FWIW, I am not an MU fan, or a KU Tucan Sam Fan, I hate you all equally!)  :D

I do though live in MO as such will abide by the decision to honor my home state in this battle, as such it gives me more reason to hate Blue Red states.

Yep, that covers it, I hate all states, the Blue ones and the reds one. ;D ;)
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Loomis on May 15, 2013, 08:33:13 AM
That's barely two reasons. Barely. 998 to go. Name something good.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on May 15, 2013, 01:05:16 PM
Nah, I like the notion of you questioning my logic better than the acknowledgement of my ideas giving to you.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: coops on May 15, 2013, 08:03:02 PM
Nah, I like the notion of you questioning my logic better than the acknowledgement of my ideas giving to you.

What does this mean?

Can we get a Jack translator?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: Tom on May 19, 2013, 10:04:35 PM
Thanks to some extra team effort from Das Loomis, I've been able to secure our second female:

This is Team West's final roster:

Minna Dennis
Kaylee Kincaid
Cooper Arnold
Frank Weaver
Arturo Villarreal
Sam Webber
Das Loomis
Joe Hesting
Ken "Tank" Franks
Nick Parks
Marc Wisbey
Bobby Villarreal
Tracy Walker
Dick Parker
Shanan Carson
Nick Winkelbauer

Alternates:
Bryan Guthrie
Pete Cashen
Peter Bures
Jeff Campbell

Looks like a very strong team for the most part.

Go Westsiders! Please don't embarrass yourselves and our great State again this year.  :-[

When I saw the results last year it somehow made me feel like I'd just watched the "squeal like a pig" scene in Deliverance.  :o
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
Post by: jack on May 20, 2013, 08:23:05 AM
Cliff Drive Round 1 set up is in the current location.  only 3 baskets move during Round 2.

I special thanks to some of the "west-siders" that bothered to come out to help with the continual work at Cliff Drive.

Rob Martin and Mike Petrin were the ones to cross the border, and they were met with much fan fare.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: OpIvy1 on May 23, 2013, 12:25:41 PM
Amanda Jackson
Tavish Carduff
Jose Ossa
CD Steiner
Jack Lowe
Zeke Henry
Jamie "Danger" Berry
Eric Kolkmeier
Eric Eastwood
Matt Perry
Jake Bowen
Mike Thomas
Kevin Manning
Ryan Keck
Caleb Walker
Dave Valdiviez

Alternates:
Vince Como
Mark "General" Mills
BJ Font
Fred Smith

And now, the East Team is complete!!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jhinck2 on May 23, 2013, 12:29:07 PM
Amanda Jackson
Tavish Carduff
Jose Ossa
CD Steiner
Jack Lowe
Zeke Henry
Jamie "Danger" Berry
Eric Kolkmeier
Eric Eastwood
Matt Perry
Jake Bowen
Mike Thomas
Kevin Manning
Ryan Keck
Caleb Walker
Dave Valdiviez

Alternates:
Vince Como
Mark "General" Mills
BJ Font
Fred Smith

And now, the East Team is complete!!

Alright Sporting KC fans...let's start the chant for the east....

I BELIEVE....
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: dickthediscparker on May 23, 2013, 04:02:07 PM
Wow, you put a sponsored player on the alternates.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Old Pike Mike on May 23, 2013, 04:07:49 PM
In addition to the organized chants, I hope our coach has the traditional inspirational speech like Jake gave last year.  It was similar to the you tube Ben Show uncensored coaching video.  Or, we revert to the most fun wins strategy!  See you at the team practice. 
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Old Pike Mike on May 23, 2013, 04:11:17 PM
Wow, you put a sponsored player on the alternates.
Good point, Dick. The Smith brothers(George and Fred) should be on the active roster.  Might be a clever coaching ploy. 
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: OpIvy1 on May 25, 2013, 01:34:53 AM
Wow, you put a sponsored player on the alternates.

I can't bump someone who qualifed, even though someone else might be a better player.  That wouldn't be very nice!!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 25, 2013, 02:12:12 PM
WYCO grass needs mowing.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: mperry on May 26, 2013, 07:55:25 PM
I don't think I will be able to play on Saturday due to in my opinion the dumb late start so cross me off. Can play Sunday though.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 26, 2013, 11:54:34 PM
In order to find a level where you don't find it "dumb" what do you suggest? Not that we're going to change it, but what isn't a "dumb" time to start the one round on Saturday?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: mperry on May 27, 2013, 09:54:39 AM
Well I work at five. You don't have to accommodate for me I just don't like a start time in the middle of the afternoon. I would prefer it to be morning whether I had to work or not. Just my opinion
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: dickthediscparker on May 27, 2013, 11:40:06 AM
Things are not stupid because they do not fit into your schedule. That is called inconvenient.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: OpIvy1 on May 27, 2013, 12:25:52 PM
I don't think I will be able to play on Saturday due to in my opinion the dumb late start so cross me off. Can play Sunday though.

thanks for the heads up.....
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: mperry on May 27, 2013, 03:12:24 PM
Things are not stupid because they do not fit into your schedule. That is called inconvenient.
See previous post where I said "whether I had to work or not"
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: dickthediscparker on May 27, 2013, 04:12:26 PM
So league nights starting at 6pm are dumb?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 27, 2013, 04:18:08 PM
Mr. Perry, doesn't the idea of beating the pulp out of a Jayhawk appeal to you? Isn't this moment just a teensy bit more intriguing than that first hour of work? Wouldn't you like the thought of crushing your enemy and seeing him driven before you? When you think of your job - don't things really pick up about 7ish anyway? What if we can arrange for you to play against Dick Parker in the first round? Doesn't the thought of possibly beating Dick Parker sound tempting?

Come on Mr. Perry... Your honor is on the line. What if your team loses and it's only because you wanted to kiss up to your boss' butt?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: dickthediscparker on May 27, 2013, 04:36:01 PM
I'm not trying to start a war, (Kansas already won that) I am just trying to find out why an afternoon or evening round on a Saturday is dumb. Out of the ordinary maybe, but dumb? Maybe you want to sleep in on Saturday after a long night of drinking. Maybe you want to go out that evening and don't want to be at a course til 7-8pm. Just trying to figure out the logic.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: mperry on May 27, 2013, 08:40:30 PM
Loomis explain to me how showing up to work on time is kissing my bosses butt?
Dick 6pm league nights make sense because that gives a good majority of players time to make it to league. How come down under league starts at 12:30? Or pleaseant hill league at 12:30? Any other league on a weekend it's going to start around noon so I just didn't understand why this one round (similar to a league) didn't start around noon. Either way as much as I would love to beat both of you guys, it will just have to wait until Sunday.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 27, 2013, 09:22:39 PM
You really need that explained to you?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: mperry on May 27, 2013, 09:42:41 PM
Yeah I do. Lets hear it
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 27, 2013, 10:04:02 PM
Brother, if it has to be explained to you then you're probably well beyond kissing and you're probably well beyond foreplay as well. It's okay. The world needs "yes men" too.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: mperry on May 27, 2013, 10:35:15 PM
No come on explain it.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 27, 2013, 10:46:01 PM
Let's just call you "Smithers" from now on.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: mperry on May 27, 2013, 11:16:20 PM
Man got me. Anyway, see everyone Sunday. EASTSIDE
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Peter Bures on May 27, 2013, 11:21:43 PM
lulz abound in this thread
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 28, 2013, 08:39:50 AM
I'm glad you feel better. Hang your time card on your mom's fridge next to your score card from the GBO.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: white mccoy on May 28, 2013, 08:48:58 AM
My "old man" back, legs, and every other aching muscle really enjoys the late afternoon start.  More time to stretch. 

Of course with alternating shot, I guess my partner and I will really only be throwing 22-24 shots.  That shouldn't be too rough.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Ken Franks on May 28, 2013, 09:21:36 AM
sure is a lot of complaining from the LEast side and relishing on the Best side...

 Shut up and THROW!!!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: mperry on May 28, 2013, 11:54:36 AM
I understand your anger towards the gbo. I'm glad you brought that up because it seems you got beat by 18 strokes...
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 28, 2013, 12:03:25 PM
If you lose your left hand, it might only take you 16 strokes to beat me.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: mperry on May 28, 2013, 12:47:42 PM
I wanna be just like you when I grow up
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jack on May 28, 2013, 12:55:46 PM
Battle for the Missouri Cup begins this week.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 28, 2013, 12:59:52 PM
I don't know... Did you think that through? I mean your mom will have to replace all those pretty pictures of you she has hanging in her hallway.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: mperry on May 28, 2013, 01:09:30 PM
Id talk s*** on your mom but he's a nice guy
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 28, 2013, 01:23:17 PM
You wouldn't be far from the truth with that one - she looks hard. That reminds me; tell your mom I have five bucks if she wants to beat by 18 strokes too. I sure do like sitting there looking at all your dandy little awards while your mom is busy making five bucks. Maybe she uses that money to buy you that milk in the fridge.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jhinck2 on May 28, 2013, 01:25:26 PM
Boy I miss high school trash talk tactics...your mom went to college...
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 28, 2013, 01:27:20 PM
 I'm blessed with a mother that I don't mind if people insult. I sort of enjoy it.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: mperry on May 28, 2013, 01:29:21 PM
I like how you use me being a college student living at home as your only trash talk argument. Maybe it helps you deal with the fact that you lost to a 19 year old who has only been playing for four years. Must be a coping mechanism or something I understand.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 28, 2013, 01:40:20 PM
Hmmmmm.... Nope. Not impressive. I'm twice your age and have been playing just a year longer and I am still a better player than you. You shot 18 strokes better on one tournament, big deal. Ebbs and flows of the game my little desert flower, ebbs and flows. And at your age you should be twice as good as you are now. Hell, Nikko was only five years into his career when he was your age and he had won a major and was one of the top ten players in the world. I think your filter for your learning curve is a bit off there my pamper wearing friend. 19 year olds are USDGC champs and World Champs. They represent the top tier talent, but where are you? And what have you done? Oh, right... The GBO champ. You're right, you're top shelf. Upper crust. Something to be adored. 19 and playing ADV after five years. WOW. I'm blown away. I bet your mom is crying tears of joy when she tells her friends.

Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jack on May 28, 2013, 01:41:45 PM
I like how you use me being a college student living at home as your only trash talk argument. Maybe it helps you deal with the fact that you lost to a 19 year old who has only been playing for four years. Must be a coping mechanism or something I understand.

Hells to the yeah, lets bring in Fred Smith to compete for the boy at this point.  I know Fred is itching to play in some battle wars.

I will try to work on making Cliff Drive better, but they mowed it last Thursday so it won't be mowed again before the event.  The only areas really needing work at this point is between hole #7 and #8 stage.  #6 hillside could use some cleanup as well, but I ain't touching that one.  I'll let the the westsiders tromple it first.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 28, 2013, 01:45:31 PM
I like how you use me being a college student living at home as your only trash talk argument. Maybe it helps you deal with the fact that you lost to a 19 year old who has only been playing for four years. Must be a coping mechanism or something I understand.

Hells to the yeah, lets bring in Fred Smith to compete for the boy at this point.  I know Fred is itching to play in some battle wars.

I will try to work on making Cliff Drive better, but they mowed it last Thursday so it won't be mowed again before the event.  The only areas really needing work at this point is between hole #7 and #8 stage.  #6 hillside could use some cleanup as well, but I ain't touching that one.  I'll let the the westsiders tromple it first.

We shant talk about where Jack should be after all these years of playing.

And hells to the yes, I would love to play against FRED. At least this year it will be a challenge.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jamidanger on May 28, 2013, 01:52:22 PM
i really really really hope that the sunday singles round features perry vs loomis and loomis isn't as pussy as his smack talk to tampon away from a side bet from east side.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 28, 2013, 01:54:40 PM
I accept Perry as my one to one. Though I'm not sure what the last half of Berry's comment means. After "talk" what does the rest of that mean?

You game Perry? You think you can beat me? I'm sure you do. You're a strapping 19 year old who just won the GBO and me by 18 strokes. What say you?

I was kinda hoping for someone with more talent, but I will take whatever challenge best suits the team.

Sorry Fred, perhaps we will get paired up in doubles.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: bensdadfred on May 28, 2013, 01:57:38 PM
Nothing is set yet. Save your apologies....
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: mperry on May 28, 2013, 02:01:42 PM
The only reason I'm still playing advanced is for am worlds. I've already cashed twice in open tournaments and am ready to move up. When I say I've been playing for four years, I played recreationally the first two and played my first tournament last year. I think I'm doing pretty good so far and will just let my play do the talking on Sunday. Until then I'm done with this conversation.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 28, 2013, 02:02:39 PM
is it nap time already? I'm sorry. Get some rest.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jhinck2 on May 28, 2013, 02:13:07 PM
Kid's got talent Loomis. Don't put the W down yet. Who were you hoping to play? Cuz our other top players will surely be facing the people on west side with more talent than you.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 28, 2013, 02:20:03 PM
Kid's a headcase Hinck. He beat a thinned out talent pool at GBO and he's full of himself. When the Bowling Green crowd shows up he will have to face some talent that's got more seasoning, more experience and less sag to their diapers. I've seen his record. It's got one win and a lot of "whaaaaa?" in it. So let him step up and take his medicine on his own.

And take your pick of any of our players, Mr. Tiny Tim, I'm sure anybody on the West Side is more than enough for your Weak Side talent pool.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: tallguy007kc on May 28, 2013, 02:27:24 PM
Ya'll are crackin' me up!  Sounds like a school bus full of jocks, just throwin' sh** everywhere.....lol  ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jack on May 28, 2013, 02:27:34 PM
I can think of a few Westsiders that fashion themselves as talented and haven't won squat as well.  I know that I am average at best, but I can have moments of good golf.  I plan on doing so this weekend.  Why on earth would we want to listen to the ramblings of drunk Icelandic person such as yourself to decide our pairings.  Yeah lets put one of the top players in our pool with a middle of the road dude that can barely walk.  That makes sense.

Regardless, the plan will be to beat the Westsiders as comfortably as possible, or in the case of a tie, remain the champs.  I am ok with a tie and would love to be the team that does that!

This year I hope to not have a 2nd degree calf sprain in the middle of the competition.......
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jhinck2 on May 28, 2013, 02:29:17 PM
At the end of the day the scores will do the talking.  There were plenty of upsets last year and I'm sure the same will happen this year.  Tank is by far a better player than me, but I beat him 4 and 3 last year.  It all is going to come down to who's putter decides to stay in the chains and who's doesn't. 

Sincerely,
Strawman
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: phisherman_77 on May 28, 2013, 02:36:01 PM
Matt, I think that Loomis is trying to get a rise out of you.  Just maybe.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 28, 2013, 02:36:35 PM
If by TOP players you mean Mr. Perry, then truly the East side is lagging behind in talent. And I put my weak legs up against Mr. Pampers and his Mom any day. It was certainly enough to beat you and your mystery wound last year.

And yes, Mr. Hinck you did beat Tank last year. I'm sure he has thought about that a lot. I'm sure everyone is wondering how that happened? As I recall the East side pulled off a lot of upsets last year - and at least you recognize them as such. This year I doubt your rag-tag assembly of loopers is going to amount to much but let's find out well everyone is doing this weekend.

Mr. Pampers... When you grow up, you want to be just like me, remember? Well. You're off to a great start.

Until then...
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: mperry on May 28, 2013, 02:42:07 PM
I bet loomis would love some voice controlled disc golf discs. Seems to me he's all talk
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jhinck2 on May 28, 2013, 02:44:52 PM
It's anybody's game on any given day - regardless of who has more skill or experience.  Now, can we get this thread back to it's purpose? 

I'm going to try and hobble out to see some golf this weekend and root on the East side.  Good luck to both sides, may the best team win.  Just keep in mind, again, that we're supposed to be a cohesive group here and all part of one club.  I'm guilty of talking smack on here, but it's all in good fun.  No reason to get our panties, diapers, or any other undergarment you all choose to wear in a wad.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 28, 2013, 02:45:33 PM
I'm like two-thirds talk and the other third is action. But it's a pretty big third. Shall we bust nuts and compare resumes? I'm sure my "talk" has enough to back it up. Do you doubt my veracity on anything I've said? Is there something you can say is missing? Or are you just tallkin' here?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jack on May 28, 2013, 02:47:53 PM
I personally think that Tank has taken his game back after a hiatus, and feel as though he will be looking to redeem himself vastly.  That being said, it is only one player, and the last time I checked......Ken.......Franks......Tank.....yep, did my double checking, and there isn't an I in his name, but there is one in WIN!  oddly enough there is an I in Missouri as well.  Hmmm....wonder how that could be.   
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: mperry on May 28, 2013, 02:48:42 PM
We can start by saying your a better golfer when have you ever even seen me play?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 28, 2013, 02:51:09 PM
There's also a "MISS" in Missouri. And there are actually two "I's" in Missouri. There's also an "IOU" and "SISI" and "U SO SORI." All we have in Kansas is "ASS" and well, "AN ASS." Jack... you're from Iowa.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jack on May 28, 2013, 03:01:44 PM
I just hope I get on your card again Loomis, I think that they pegged you in the right skillset last year with me..... ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 28, 2013, 03:05:20 PM
They did. We needed an easy win and so they put us together. I don't think the powers could foresee your devastating injury but it played out as planned. I can't play against you all. But we can certainly figure out a way to take each other out before it's all said and done. I'm sure you and pampers aren't the only two itching to take me on though I accept any challenge. I like Match Play. I seem to do rather well at it.

OH... Sorry Pampers, I see that you commented. That was a short nap.

I haven't seen you play. You're right. So you shouldn't have anything to worry about.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jack on May 28, 2013, 03:27:58 PM
They did. We needed an easy win and so they put us together. I don't think the powers could foresee your devastating injury but it played out as planned.......

Right I mean that was my thought, why waste such a talented golfer on me, they really give me more credit than is needed, but again, with an injury, I think it still took you almost a full round before I was officially out, so even with a 2nd degree mystery injury I was competing against your "healthy but can barely walk arse"......seems to me that you may want to take on the weak link to feel better about your game......but I digress....
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 28, 2013, 03:34:59 PM
As I recall your mystery injury didn't occur until pad 12. And with the surplus of talent on our team, it stacked up with me being available to handle you and I did my job. As I recall, they put us together as Masters players, or some such thing, as they tried to keep all of the match ups within their designated levels. Isn't that right? I think I made the team as a Masters player as did you. This year I was hoping for Fred but I guess I get Mr. pampers or perhaps you. We are again overstocked with talent and any number of match ups will do nicely. I am up for any of you.

"healthy but can barely walk arse" accepts the challenge of your weakest link. Please let me know who that is. I have a list of about 15 players, but I'm sure you have your favorites. Who do you have in mind?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Ken Franks on May 28, 2013, 06:10:53 PM
Loomis, you need a job to fill your afternoons...
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: spnachio on May 28, 2013, 06:29:44 PM
Kcfdc "smackoff". Love it!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 28, 2013, 08:09:24 PM
The rain kept everything on hold today so instead I sat here and chatted with Mr. Pampers.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: coops on May 29, 2013, 08:05:12 AM
As I recall your mystery injury didn't occur until pad 12. And with the surplus of talent on our team, it stacked up with me being available to handle you and I did my job. As I recall, they put us together as Masters players, or some such thing, as they tried to keep all of the match ups within their designated levels. Isn't that right? I think I made the team as a Masters player as did you. This year I was hoping for Fred but I guess I get Mr. pampers or perhaps you. We are again overstocked with talent and any number of match ups will do nicely. I am up for any of you.

"healthy but can barely walk arse" accepts the challenge of your weakest link. Please let me know who that is. I have a list of about 15 players, but I'm sure you have your favorites. Who do you have in mind?

Yeah. It wasn't putting masters players against masters players, per se, but that did enter the equation. Really the heart of it is that our team had a lot of talent and so there were bound to be some unequal matchups. I think on that particular one I thought to myself that the only way Jack could beat anyone on our team was if he talked so much (and so loudly) that they either got distracted or had to withdraw. Who better to handle the 'Jack-attack' than someone who could give battle on that plane as well? Thus the Loomis-Jack matchup was born.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: white mccoy on May 29, 2013, 09:08:16 AM
Man, I can't wait for this weekend!!  Gonna be so fun.  Why isn't Mike D on our team too, so we could own this pre-game smack-talking contest. :P
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Hanthrolo on May 29, 2013, 10:30:38 AM
Wheres all this sheet goin down this weekend???
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jack on May 29, 2013, 11:04:00 AM
WyCo Sat @ 3
Cliff Sunday @ 8 or 9 then an afternoon round, and victory round at my house provided the Missouri Cup stays home.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Tracy on May 29, 2013, 11:05:02 AM
Never mind what Jack said. He's talking about some event that has never existed.

The Kansas City Team Challenge for 2013:

Round 1: 8 matches of alternate shot doubles at Wyco. Rolling start with 1st card at 3:00pm, Sat. June 1st
Round 2: 8 matches of best shot doubles at Cliff Drive. Rolling start with 1st card at 9:30am, Sun. June 2nd
Round 3: 16 matches of singles at Cliff Drive. Rolling start with 1st card out at TBD, Sun. June 2nd (at least an hour after last card from first round is done)


For team members: Everyone should be at each course at least 30 minutes prior to the scheduled first card out.  Ryan and I will be drafting pairings based on who is present or accounted for (known on their way) at that time. 

If a player is late for their start the following will occur:

Alternate shot doubles: A single player cannot alternate with themselves. Thus, the opposition will earn a concession on each hole played, from the team with a missing player, until the missing player arrives.
Best shot doubles: the player with a missing partner will play singles against best shot doubles until missing player arrives.
Singles: The opposition will earn a concession on each hole played, from the missing player, until the missing player arrives.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jack on May 29, 2013, 12:40:25 PM
Never mind what Jack said. He's talking about some event that has never existed.

EAST SIDE!!!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 29, 2013, 02:16:42 PM
If the West Side wins we can celebrate by having a party at Jack's and having the east side acts as slaves for us.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jack on May 29, 2013, 02:40:35 PM
meh, no.  Though with an East side victory, I would let some of the west siders buy me some drinks, and would be hospitable for certain to them all....
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: mikedopen on May 29, 2013, 08:45:40 PM
Man, I can't wait for this weekend!!  Gonna be so fun.  Why isn't Mike D on our team too, so we could own this pre-game smack-talking contest. :P
  :'(  . You guys are doing a fine job without me!
 I'll be there Sunday to witness the westsides joyful celebration.  That pampers bit is cracking me up! ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Ken Franks on May 29, 2013, 10:11:55 PM
I'll be there Sunday to witness the westsides joyful celebration.

 ^LIKE^
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: coops on May 30, 2013, 08:43:49 AM
73 and mild wind for Wyco! Looks wonderful.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jack on May 30, 2013, 09:10:39 AM
Man, I can't wait for this weekend!!  Gonna be so fun.  Why isn't Mike D on our team too, so we could own this pre-game smack-talking contest. :P
  :'(  . You guys are doing a fine job without me!
 I'll be there Sunday to witness the westsides joyful celebration.  That pampers bit is cracking me up! ;D

This is why there are no bags of chips for you! >:(
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 30, 2013, 11:43:25 AM
Missouri gave us Sheryl Crow. I hate Sheryl Crow.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jamidanger on May 30, 2013, 11:59:00 AM
kansas gave us melissa etheridge, all square.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 30, 2013, 12:16:38 PM
There's a difference. Melissa has talent; Sheryl is just a shiny rock used for selling Vitamins and Make up. 15 - Love.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jamidanger on May 30, 2013, 12:27:05 PM
whatever, who'd you rather
(http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz352/jamidanger/agirlcomparison_zps51938355.jpg) (http://s843.photobucket.com/user/jamidanger/media/agirlcomparison_zps51938355.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 30, 2013, 01:39:10 PM
Who'd you rather what? If you're asking which I would listen to - Melissa. If your question is rooted in some pseudo-sexual connotation I would say only this: I get laid often enough that I don't need to fantasize about those three women.

And still Melissa would win that. 30 - Love.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Jake B on May 30, 2013, 02:27:40 PM
I'll take Kelly Bundy.

Loomis, your comedy is still mediocre at best... Melissa, HA!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jamidanger on May 30, 2013, 02:36:24 PM
i'd rather have sheryl as my caddy/bowl filler in a pseudo disc golf kinda thing. off on a tangent- but sexually i would need a snorkel to please melissa.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on May 30, 2013, 02:53:45 PM
The desperation oozing out of Missouri is amazing.

Jake... Your comedy is top drawer.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Ken Franks on May 30, 2013, 04:45:04 PM
....and the list of Kansas Supporters just rose.... Remember, Intimidation is a HUUUUGE aspect of match play...'

 and I have an ace in the hole..... 40-love
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: coops on May 30, 2013, 09:34:09 PM
....and the list of Kansas Supporters just rose.... Remember, Intimidation is a HUUUUGE aspect of match play...'

 and I have an ace in the hole..... 40-love

Intimidation can be a huge part depending on who is playing each match but it is almost as easy for the better player to feel the pressure even if, when not losing, they don't feel like they're winning by enough. It adds a wonderful element to an already mentally magnificent game.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: OpIvy1 on May 31, 2013, 04:21:24 PM
Just a friendly reminder that tomorrow is the day!!  I will be out at Wyco around 2 to warm up and start checking the east side in!  Please don't procrastinate in your arrival, so I don't have to stress over who is there, and who isn't!!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: KCDiscDawg on May 31, 2013, 10:26:12 PM
Played a round out at Cliff Dr this evening... Its groomed and looking ready to host some west side tree hackers... East side keeping it tight..
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on June 01, 2013, 07:37:41 PM
So. After one round of alternate shot doubles...
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: KCDiscDawg on June 01, 2013, 08:08:51 PM
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-eatdrink062.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on June 01, 2013, 08:10:08 PM
I believe it's 6-2 WEST SIDE
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: coops on June 01, 2013, 08:10:39 PM
Quote
So. After one round of alternate shot doubles...

West leads 6-2.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: coops on June 01, 2013, 08:11:18 PM
I believe it's 6-2 WEST SIDE

That is correct.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: coops on June 01, 2013, 08:14:22 PM
Can we get a definitive 'be there' and 'starting around' time for tomorrow post?

Digging through this mess of a thread to find real answers isn't easy.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on June 01, 2013, 08:22:44 PM
Card 1: Cooper/Hesting def Ossa/Kolkmeier
Card 2: Tavish/Amanda def Minna/Kaylee
Card 3: Tank/Shanan def Bowen/Keck
Card 4: Wisbey/Parker def Smith/Henry
Card 5: Weaver/Parks def Eastwood/Valdievez
Card 6: Berry/Thomas def Cashen/Wink
Card 7: Webber/A. Villareal def Steiner/Manning
Card 8: Loomis/B. Villareal def Lowe/Walker

I can't remember all of this.

Round 2. 930 AM at Cliff.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Flying J on June 01, 2013, 08:40:52 PM
Dumbfounded, flabbergasted, and absolutely baffled.   

Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on June 01, 2013, 08:55:39 PM
I know. I am too! How did we lose those two matches!?!?!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Flying J on June 01, 2013, 09:03:52 PM
:)   

You know I wasn't talking about the results.  But that's still funny.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Flying J on June 01, 2013, 09:06:36 PM
Tomorrow Cliff Drive.  Located in a state that mows its courses.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on June 01, 2013, 09:13:51 PM
And then dumps used condoms and old TVS on the freshly shorn grass so all can see.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Flying J on June 01, 2013, 09:14:43 PM
You can blame all them democrats living nearby for that.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Tracy on June 01, 2013, 10:10:51 PM
Sorry for the late update. I was shuffled off to a neighborhood BBQ the moment I got home from the course. 

Official results for the 1st round of the 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge

Course: Wyco
Format: Matchplay alternate shot doubles
Card 1: West (1) - Joe Hesting and Cooper Arnold over East - Jose Ossa and Eric Kolkmeier - 4&3
Card 2: East (1) - Amanda Jackson and Tavish Carduff over Kaylee Kincaid and Minna Dennis - 3&1
Card 3: West (1) - Ken Franks and Shanan Carson over Jake Bowen and Zeke Henry - 1up
Card 4: West (1) - Frank Weaver and Nick Parks over Eric Eastwood and Dave Valdiviez - 3&1
Card 5: West (1) - Marc Wisbey and Dick Parker over Fred Smith and Ryan Keck - 5&4
Card 6: East (1) - Mike Thomas and Jamie Barry over Pete Cashen and Nick Winkelbauer - 3&1
Card 7: West (1) - Arturo Villarreal and Sam Webber over CD Steiner and Kevin Manning - 4&3
Card 8: West (1) - D Loomis and Bobby Villarreal over Caleb Walker and Jack Lowe - 3&2

West: 6
East: 2

24 match points still remain to be battled for.  Team West needs 10.5 points to win the championship.  East Side needs 14 points to retain the trophy.

2nd round at Cliff Drive will start at 9:30.Please be there no later than 9:00 for head count.  Format will be matchplay best shot doubles. East side has the option on first pick in the pairing process to select or defer.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: KCVinnie on June 02, 2013, 08:14:11 AM
Lets Go East Side!! Play like the Champions you are!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Mike Hyzer on June 02, 2013, 07:42:03 PM
Here are a few photos from my camera phone, which seems to grow increasingly crappier by the day:

http://smg.photobucket.com/user/KOOLmike/slideshow/KCFDC%20East_West%20Challenge (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/KOOLmike/slideshow/KCFDC%20East_West%20Challenge)
 
;D
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Tracy on June 02, 2013, 08:01:54 PM
There was a mistake in the scoring. I'll get to that a bit later.

Official results for the 2nd round of the 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge

Course: Cliff Drive
Format: Matchplay best shot doubles
Card 1: East (1) - Amanda Jackson and Tavish Carduff over Kaylee Kincaid and Minna Dennis - 3&1
Card 2: East (1) - Jose Ossa and Mike Thomas over Sam & Cooper - 7&5
Card 3: East (1) - Jamie Barry and Caleb walker over Nick Parks and Bryan Guthrie - 3&2
Card 4: East (1) - Matt Perry and Kevin Manning over Joe Hesting and Mike Davis - 3&2
Card 5: West (1) - Bobby Villarreal and Dick Parker over Dave Valdiviez and Ryan Keck - 1up
Card 6: East (1) - Zeke Henry and Eric Eastwood over Frank Weaver and Nick Winkelbauer - 6&4
Card 7: East (1) - Jake Bowen and CD Steiner over Arturo Villarreal and D. Loomis - 2&1
Card 8: West (1) - Ken Franks and Shanan Carson over Erik Kolkmeier and Jack Lowe - 6&4

After two rounds
West: 8
East: 8

16 match points still remain to be battled for.  Team West needs 8.5 points to win the championship.  East Side needs 8 points to retain the trophy. Matchplay singles to be played after lunch.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jamidanger on June 02, 2013, 08:26:50 PM
(http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz352/jamidanger/th_bobbyputt_zpse13609ea.jpg) (http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz352/jamidanger/bobbyputt_zpse13609ea.mp4)
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Ken Franks on June 02, 2013, 08:31:28 PM
WEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 Kansas wins the Kansas cup 16.5-15.5

 Well done Team!!!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Tracy on June 02, 2013, 08:31:46 PM
Official results for the 3rd round of the 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge

Course: Cliff Drive
Format: Matchplay singles
Match 1: East (1) - Tavish Carduff over Kaylee Kincaid - 7&6
Match 2: East (1) - Amanda Jackson over Minna Dennis - 4&3
Match 3: All Square (.5 each) - Nick Winkelbauer vs Ryan Keck
Match 4: West (1) - Frank Weaver over Eric Kolkmeier - 1up
Match 5: West (1) - Bryan Guthrie over Jamie Barry - 3&2
Match 6:  East (1) - Dave Valdiviez over Dick Parker - 1up
Match 7: West (1) - Jeff Campbell over Zeke Henry - 6&5
Match 8: West (1)- Shanan Carson over Fred Smith - 3&2
Match 9: All Square (.5 each) - Cooper Arnold vs Jose Ossa
Match 10: East (1) - Eric Eastwood over Sam Webber 2&1
Match 11: All Square (.5 each) - Bobby Villarreal vs Caleb Walker
Match 12: All Square (.5 each) - Mike Thomas vs D. Loomis
Match 13: West (1) - Joe Hesting over Matt Perry 1up
Match 14: East (1) - CD Steiner over Tracy Walker 3&2
Match 15: All Square (.5 each) - Arturo Villarreal vs Jake Bowen
Match 16: West (1) - Ken Franks over Kevin Manning - 3&2

The white board scoreboard showed West wins 16.5 to East 16.  Does anybody see the math mistake here?

There are only 32 points available, not 32.5. Scoring got messed up along the way and the silly organizer didn't bother checking 'til before leaving the park this evening.  East earned 7.5 points in the 3rd round, Team West earned 8.5 points.

Official tally:
West 16.5
East 15.5

Congratulations to the West! Well done to the East for battling back to make it close.  Thank you out to everyone that supported the event by playing and or watching.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: thankyoupeter on June 02, 2013, 08:40:41 PM
So it's 1-1 but east side is still up 36.5-27.5 in aggregate?  Good to know east side is still in the lead.   
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Ken Franks on June 02, 2013, 08:46:28 PM
So it's 1-1 but east side is still up 36.5-27.5 in aggregate?  Good to know east side is still in the lead.   

 The Worst Argument of All Time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2dl8xcLYUg#ws)
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: thankyoupeter on June 02, 2013, 08:48:33 PM
I have to watch a nine minute video now?  Aggregate FTW!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: coops on June 02, 2013, 08:49:54 PM
So it's 1-1 but east side is still up 36.5-27.5 in aggregate?  Good to know east side is still in the lead.   

No such thing.

Last year's event had double points on the best shot round so it isn't even comparable.

And...


ROCK CHALK!!! (and emaw I guess. Just for Joe)
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Ken Franks on June 02, 2013, 08:51:00 PM
no, you can just lift your skirt and cheer your team from the sideline....
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on June 02, 2013, 09:17:13 PM
As you sit there trying to figure out how things could have been different, but unable to find relief for your pain and frustration, I want you to know that the sting is going to last a while. You got beat. You had chances but your putts didn't stick, you just hit too many trees, you didn't find the right lines, and you just couldn't shake off your doubt enough to bring it home for your team. You lost. You lost for your whole team. I bet you're wondering why you were on the team in the first place. But take pride in knowing that you were the best that your state had to offer. If not you, who? No one. And if you had been able to make that one putt... You would have won. You would have been able to say that you did it again. But you didn't. You lost. Maybe it's your lot in life. Maybe this is just the way it's always going to be.

There will be no party at Jack's this year... The Missouri Cup decorated with a bronzed JAYHAWK on top now belongs to Kansas. If you wish to visit it, please build up your talent and try to defeat us next year.

Mr. Dick Parker has agreed to take over the reigns for the West side as captain and I suggest that GI Dave take over for team second place. This should make for some interesting work place chatter and allow a lot of time for both of them to come up with match ups, etc.

I hope next year that a temp course will be used to make this more interesting.

I now have a reason to move back here before this goes down next year.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Mike Hyzer on June 02, 2013, 09:20:02 PM
Aw sh1t, rubber match goodness next year. Congrats on finally getting it done, Westies! ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on June 02, 2013, 09:45:04 PM
Thank you Tracy for all your hard work and making this happen... and you too, other guy who was like Tracy but not.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Peter Bures on June 02, 2013, 11:19:13 PM
Nice job boys! Thanks for all the hard work Tracy!

I look forward to the next installment, hopefully I can make it to some of the tryouts this time lol.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Old Pike Mike on June 03, 2013, 09:01:39 AM
Congrats to the west side on their victory by the narrowest of margins.  Given the clearly superior talent on the west side, East side must have really over performed or West under performed.  But, I am glad it was a very competitive match.  The west side intimidation tactics bringing in Nate and Val clearly were the difference in the match.   Loomis, I enjoyed our match and your sportsmanship.  I also think your on line rants are hilarious and have been excellent locker room fodder!   I Hope that  can get healthy and make it back and establish residency for next year's contest.    Sorry you were so anxious to get back on the computer last   night that you missed the party celebrating East side retaining their title as all time points leader.   21-11 still looks beautiful on the trophy and we have nothing to be ashamed of .. except that one putt that made the difference. Great fun this weekend!   Thanks Ryan and TW for taking on the captain roles! 
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: white mccoy on June 03, 2013, 09:12:19 AM
Most fun weekend of Disc Golf in my 16 years playing!  Great competition everywhere on the course, and Match Play makes everything more interesting.  I miss team sports, so this really felt like being a part of something bigger, again.  Thanks to both Captains, and all my homies on the West Siieeede!! 

Can't wait for next year!! ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: white mccoy on June 03, 2013, 09:15:47 AM
Also,  I can't see how this won't propel all of us to KICK SOME ARSE in the KCWO!!!!!

Definitely felt more pressure this weekend than I ever have in Singles....beating McLeast and Wysucki should be a cake walk now :o
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: mperry on June 03, 2013, 09:54:09 AM
This tournament is definitely one I will look forward too every year. It was ran great once again, and I like the two day version a lot better (sorry about letting you down the first day east side). Regardless that final putt was one of the best disc golf moments I've had even though I missed. Battling joe was awesome and the most fun I've had playing disc golf. Can't wait for the rubber match!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jhinck2 on June 03, 2013, 09:59:29 AM
Well played this weekend boys. I'm glad I was able to come out and see a few holes. I'm
hoping to make it back before the next go round-surely I'll be back in time. I know Tank is looking for a little vengeance...my roc will be waiting ;)

Congrats on the win West side. But don't get too comfy holding that trophy. It'll be in better hands within the year!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: mperry on June 03, 2013, 10:40:41 AM
I suggested the same thing. That'd be a fun tournament
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jhinck2 on June 03, 2013, 11:37:47 AM
It'll be in better hands within the year!

Not sure what you meant here, but this is an annual thing. It won't happen again 'til 2014.  The Fall timing last year was just to squeeze the event in and get it off the ground. I suppose we could have done it last Spring, but it would have been on super short notice.  I felt like we needed the summer to promote the event.   Anyway, first weekend in June seems like a great time to plan this annually.  What think you all?

Tank talked to us about an individual matchplay bracket format that takes place over 4 weeks at each matches convenience.  It sounds interesting. I'll get more information from Tank. But I think I get the gist of it. I may try to put one together for September-ish.

I thought we were doing it twice annually.  I guess I just didn't pay that close of attention.  I will most definitely be ready by then.  Thanks for the info Tracy.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: OpIvy1 on June 03, 2013, 12:48:58 PM
Thank you Tracy for all your hard work and making this happen... and you too, other guy who was like Tracy but not.

That's all I am, the other guy.  I definitely made some mistakes in the first round matchups, but I'd say I did a darn good job on day two to get us re-motivated, and to make it a close race.  With that said, congrats to Tracy and the west side.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: coops on June 03, 2013, 01:04:24 PM
Thank you Tracy for all your hard work and making this happen... and you too, other guy who was like Tracy but not.

That's all I am, the other guy.  I definitely made some mistakes in the first round matchups, but I'd say I did a darn good job on day two to get us re-motivated, and to make it a close race.  With that said, congrats to Tracy and the west side.

I wouldn't go so far as mistakes, Ryan. I just think it was aggressive strategy. At a certain point it comes down to the players have to play regardless of pairing or partners. That was what, I think, happened last year. I've looked over my matchups a couple times trying to find errors and have thought of some minor tweaks but I think the crux of the issue is that we had a bad day and the East had a good day. Sometimes the answer is as simple as that.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Flying J on June 03, 2013, 03:46:13 PM
Massacre averted.  Again.  Good work, West Side, you took full advantage of fortunes.

Now, can we get back to being a bunch of Kansas City disc golfers and leave this divisive crap behind?  At least for the next 10 months.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Ash on June 03, 2013, 04:22:13 PM

Now, can we get back to being a bunch of Kansas City disc golfers and leave this divisive crap behind?  At least for the next 10 months.

You can blame all them democrats living nearby for that.

 :o 
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Flying J on June 03, 2013, 04:35:59 PM

Now, can we get back to being a bunch of Kansas City disc golfers and leave this divisive crap behind?  At least for the next 10 months.

You can blame all them democrats living nearby for that.

 :o 

Ha! 

1.  This has nothing to do with disc golf or disc golfers.
2.  That statement is a fact.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Ash on June 03, 2013, 04:48:32 PM

Now, can we get back to being a bunch of Kansas City disc golfers and leave this divisive crap behind?  At least for the next 10 months.

You can blame all them democrats living nearby for that.

 :o 

Ha! 

1.  This has nothing to do with disc golf or disc golfers.
2.  That statement is a fact.

1. Exactly, thus we don't need this divisive crap on a disc golf message board.
2. This is actually not a fact, it is purely your hypothesis.

I'm just messing with you Jose. I thought about saying something after the first post, and didn't. Had to after seeing that line show up in your post today.  ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Ken Franks on June 03, 2013, 08:27:59 PM

You can blame all them democrats living nearby for that.

 Aren't you Union????

Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Flying J on June 03, 2013, 10:22:10 PM
Oh Em Gee, like don't have a cow tank man.  It's a joke.  Although I think it flew over your head.  I'm a live and let live kinda guy.  You do your thing, I'll do mine.  I date and live with a beautiful liberal woman.  Politics clearly aren't a factor in who I hang out with.

As for Unions ... I'm not a single issue voter.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Flying J on June 03, 2013, 10:24:44 PM
I'm just messing with you Jose. I thought about saying something after the first post, and didn't. Had to after seeing that line show up in your post today.  ;D

It certainly contradicts what I said :)
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on June 03, 2013, 11:35:16 PM
Damn Liberals and their racial equality blabberings. Damn them and their hot air attitude toward preserving our parks and promoting recycling. Damn those feckless liberals who keep trying to make things available to everyone for free... Those stupid kind people... they just want to take away my guns, kill babies and let two hot chicks marry each other.

Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Flying J on June 04, 2013, 05:40:09 AM
Blah, blah, blah.  I saw the word democrat used inappropriately and it ignited my automatic defensive response mechanism. Blah, blah, blah. 

Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on June 04, 2013, 08:25:39 AM
Nah. It wasn't automatic. Typically I will let a bullfrog croak a while before I do anything. And your retort is void of any valid explanation of your original view thus indicating it was an empty and regurgitated comment.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Ken Franks on June 04, 2013, 08:29:39 AM

As for Unions ... I'm not a single issue voter.

 Thank a Liberal for your HIGH hourly wage....
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jteater on June 04, 2013, 08:58:18 AM








 Thank a Liberal for your HIGH hourly wage....



It doesn't matter how high your wage is when liberals want to take it and distribute it as they see fit.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Ken Franks on June 04, 2013, 09:01:24 AM

 Thank a Liberal for your HIGH hourly wage....



It doesn't matter how high your wage is when liberals want to take it and distribute it as they see fit.

 but count your lucky stars they wont send your kids to war with that money....!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Ken Franks on June 04, 2013, 09:01:56 AM
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on June 04, 2013, 09:25:23 AM
This thread should be returned, "why we still hate each other 170 years later."
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: BenC on June 04, 2013, 11:28:55 AM
It's not a streak until there is three.  Two is just back to back.  Like KU basketball last season, back to back losses, meh, the third loss made it a streak.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jamidanger on June 04, 2013, 11:53:33 AM
can we change the station now please? reading this thread is like listening to Christian rock with loomis' lyrics  and tank's sing-a-long.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Mike Hyzer on June 04, 2013, 11:56:43 AM
Back to the political discussion: Both sides seem to have one or two good ideas and then about a million crappy ideas. The establishment doesn't care what side you're on, just as long as you choose one or the other and you get your news from a reputable mainstream media outlet. That's a nice citizen.

East Side!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jamidanger on June 04, 2013, 12:16:12 PM
http://youtu.be/RBcJoj1v3UQ (http://youtu.be/RBcJoj1v3UQ)
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Flying J on June 04, 2013, 03:54:07 PM
Nah. It wasn't automatic. Typically I will let a bullfrog croak a while before I do anything. And your retort is void of any valid explanation of your original view thus indicating it was an empty and regurgitated comment.

Dude,  if you don't get it, you don't get it.  A joke isn't funny if it has to be explained.  Your opinion of me or the indication you got from my retort is not the least bit important to me.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Flying J on June 04, 2013, 04:08:17 PM
Tank, it may be black and white for you but it isn't for me.  Just because I vote for the one side doesn't mean I disagree 100% with what the other supports.  I vote for candidates who unfortunately tend to have ridiculous and embarrassing social opinions because I cannot vote for candidates who endorse a ludicrous economic plan. 

Say "Bush" and I'll stab you in the eye with a sharp pencil.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Kevin Montgomery on June 04, 2013, 04:33:15 PM
One more political comment and I start deleting posts...

 >:(

You've been warned.

This is a disc golf forum. Keep it in that neighborhood or move along....
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jhinck2 on June 04, 2013, 06:07:35 PM
And yet the hockey posts continue unhindered. Those in power... ;) just kidding Jack...kind of
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Ken Franks on June 04, 2013, 07:36:19 PM
wesssssssssssssssssssssssssst MF Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide!!!
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on June 04, 2013, 10:09:43 PM
we can't post political commentary but the beer posts are okay?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: phisherman_77 on June 04, 2013, 10:16:56 PM
I'm pretty sure that beer is a slightly less polarizing topic than politics.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Loomis on June 04, 2013, 10:20:26 PM
says the boozehound
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jack on June 05, 2013, 09:04:05 AM
And yet the hockey posts continue unhindered. Those in power... ;) just kidding Jack...kind of

Ahh yes, but Hockey isn't political, it is all about cold steel on ICE.  Did you see the gash that happened when Duncan Keith high-sticked Carter in the face?  I mean the dude was missing part of his face and came back a couple of minutes later to play.

Because its about the cup.
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: jteater on June 05, 2013, 12:58:42 PM
I need one of those stanley cups to p#$s in when I have to much beer and I'm starting a political discussion.  ::)
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Soup on August 10, 2013, 09:59:29 AM
I'm completing the vid on the Team Challenge. I want to make sure I have all the players:
Jose Ossa, Joe Hesting, Cooper Arnold, Amanda Jackson, Tavish Carduff,Kaylee Kincaid, Minna Dennis, Tank, Shanan Carson, Eric Eastwood, Eric Kolkmeier, Jake Bowen, Zeke Henry, Frank Weaver, Dave Valdiviez, Nick Parks, Fred Smith, Ryan Keck, Marc Wisby, Dick Parker, Mike Thomas, Jamie Danger, Arturo Villerreal, Sam Webber, Caleb Walker, Jack Lowe, Dan Loomis, Bobby Villarreal, CD Steiner, Pete Cashen, Nick Winkelbauer, Kevin Manning, Bryan Guthrie, Matt Perry, Mike D, Jeff Campbell

Is this correct?
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Soup on August 10, 2013, 08:57:25 PM
http://youtu.be/f3qTirUxT7A (http://youtu.be/f3qTirUxT7A)
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: tallguy007kc on August 11, 2013, 09:53:50 AM
Good stuff Soup!  8)
Title: Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
Post by: Soup on August 12, 2013, 10:45:25 PM
That was fun! The youtube description has all the captain/player info.  What a great event. Surprised to see half the people root for me once.