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Title: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on November 30, 2010, 03:22:38 PM
So for new ideas this year:
2-day format (Ice Bowl Champion on Saturday) (Traveling trophy)

Ice Bowl Queen-Sunday Best Women's score (An award TBD, thinking Tiearra)

Ice Bowl King-Best Sunday Score (An Award TBD, thinking Gavel here)

Ice Bowl Patron-Most 1st Time Ice Bowlers (thinking Bowling Ball....or a special disc)
Chili Contest Winner-The Golden Spoon (A new yearly award like the traveling trophy)[/li][/list]

Old Ideas-

So start sharing your ideas with me and others if you think that this may work.  I don't want to discourage anyone from attending because they come on Saturday then don't bring the rest of their crew out on Sunday because they played on Sat.

The only items that I plan on bringing out on Saturday would be basic discs, a few Star/Z plastic but the majority of the merchandising as such would be happening on Sunday.  Saturday is basically a time to get a round in a little distraction free, and allow you to maybe help on Sunday with the chaos that is the Ice Bowl as we love it. 

Please let me know if you think that I am doing a dis-service by attempting to alter our historic event!

I do not want to decrease participation, I want to increase it!

Thanks,

jack
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on November 30, 2010, 03:58:26 PM
If you can help out on the Ice Bowl let me know.  I would like to form a committee to help us ensure that we have everything covered.  I will update as we go!  We will probably meet right after the first of the year, like the 4th or 5th on an evening then meet again the week before the event, like the 26th!!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: David E on December 01, 2010, 09:41:41 AM
The set up looks really fun. One comment, and I say this knowing it's tough to fit in 24 holes!

This part might cause some issues:

6-#5 Worlds setting
[this is along the outfield fence to long #6? Then the players would have to walk back to regular #5? Only Choice would be back up the fairway they just finished or back up reg #5? In both cases there could be teams behind them? It might screw up the flow?]
7-#5 right
8-#6 right
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Here's a thought: even though you are trying to keep DU out of the mix.

6- #5 right
7- DU #10
8- DU #11
9- #6
10-#7 middle
11-#8 short
11-from #6 long to the island#8 or so
12-#9 short
13-#9 long, tee from the middle of #9 burm through the gap
14-#10 short
15-#11 short
16-from #11 long to a temp to the South of the playground, by the trees on #12 left

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Just a few thougts, either way I like the idea of more holes since there are now so many players.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on December 01, 2010, 09:43:02 AM
hmmmmmm........80 views and no comments?

I am leaning towards only 18 holes on the course after a PM about it, but nothing from the talk tank here? :o ;D :D
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jamidanger on December 01, 2010, 09:59:59 AM
idea # 1 use blue valley this year, and get some<lots> of foot traffic out there, you know exposure for the course to the community, blah blah chili contest, feed the homeless with the leftovers at 10th and troost, kcfdc makes headlines, golfers feel good playing a real course in the cold. weenie arms could play the junior course.

idea # 2 use all the courses, and get each course committee to actually show up at each course on the same day, do our ice bowling, and see which courses bring in the most donations, and then turn it all in as a club, or maybe MO vs KS, but the metro wide effort is better for exposure and way less intrusive to the courses. it'd kinda suck for the party atmosphere, but is a giant party or a travelling trophy what we're striving for?  i've got more ideas, please weigh in on these first as i think my best 2 ideas
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: twoDornottwoD on December 01, 2010, 10:33:12 AM
i like them both but if i had to choose, number two would have greater impact.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: sirbronco on December 01, 2010, 10:51:12 AM
I like number two as well.  The courses will not be as crowded.  Let everybody play their round(s) at thier leasure in the morning and have a lot of fun.  Then, at a specified time, throw a party at one centralized course in the afternoon, letting people come and go as they will.  If you make it a two day event, have the party around noon on the second day and play on.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Anthony Puryear on December 01, 2010, 11:06:44 AM
I love the Saturday idea. As most times I am only able to play the afternoon round on Sunday.
I also like the #2 idea of splitting up the courses. Then we can hopefully get some exposure from all the different media outlets on Saturday. Then do the party thing on Sunday.
Either way. I like having a saturday tournament and then bonus stuff on Sunday.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Tom on December 01, 2010, 11:24:07 AM
I like Jamies ideas.  :)

My idea was:
everyone play one round in the morning (it can be as competitive as you want, and you can use as many mullis as you can afford). Then in the afternoon, the top, say 8 scores (2 cards) play a final 9 for the title of ice bowl champ.
It would be kewl to have a gallery of 100+ partying and following the potential champs around in the afternoon.  8)
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: hyzerponix on December 01, 2010, 11:38:03 AM
Nice idea with the multiple courses, Danger. Whatever it takes to get more people involved and to get more money raised for charity is what should be done.

The #1 reason I hear as to why some folks don't go to Ice Bowl or hang around for the duration of it is "It's a friggin' zoo", or something to that effect. Personally, I show up to Rosie early to get a round in, eat some chili, and shoot the bull for a bit, but my second round is always at a different course along with other defectors who would rather not deal with the huge crowd.

Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: dickthediscparker on December 01, 2010, 11:57:07 AM
If you split the Ice Bowl up you wont see as much growth as you think.   It will likely diminish the event.   It sounds good in theory but when you start having a bunch of different people trying to run an event (because we have so many dependable people running good events)  then you have different ideas and people start to want to do things one way and not as a collective and over time it will just die off.   Splitting the competition from the party seems like more of a novel approach.

Think about it.   I can go play (for the first time in 5 years) for the Ice Bowl Trophy.   Little to no thrills just cold golf.   Then the next day I can Volunteer my efforts to help put on an incredible event.   Those who played on Saturday can now come out Sunday and party at the Pavilion .   Beer and Chili and Friends and Games.   No one trying to hurry and do all the things PLUS play golf.  No we can raise more money for the charity with side games, we can have more people hanging out around the party area which makes it look like we are a huge event.  Instead of having 100 people on hole one cold and bored and thinking about something else.   

I think Jack is on the right track but I would say just 2 rounds of 18 Max 90 (how many people really have a chance for the trophy)  And then Party on Sunday!  Giving 1 round of 18 holes for everyone to enjoy who didn't come out the day before.  We get a Live band or DJ to spin tunes and make it awesome.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on December 01, 2010, 12:30:06 PM
#2 is good, and I wanted to do #1 already, but I want to wait until we have the "other courses" in the ground before we go this direction.

The problem with #2 is staff.  Also I think that spreading out the Ice Bowl love would miss the event atmosphere that we have grown accustomed to.

Attempting to go over multiple courses with multiple merchandise, multiple scoring, is more work than many are willing to donate.

I understand your idea and how it works in other places (namely on the east of us), but the way we run the Ice Bowl and people's expectations are not aligned with a no-frills event.  We like to have a lot of fun at our Ice Bowls, probably more so than most.  I hope to keep it that way, yet still attract more people!

Keep the ideas flowing!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: john theiss on December 01, 2010, 12:39:24 PM
Would it be better to have the party on a Saturday?  I have heard many folks say they wish the party was on a Saturday due to work the next day.  Many people like to chill on Sunday or have family time, church etc.  I am all about splitting the event up to two days though.

Have we ever done a can food drive?  Bring in 3 cans of food and get a discount, or a raffle ticket.  Since we will be 501 3c maybe find a company that would match can for can donatations. 

I think KC is all about getting together.  Splitting up the ice bowl onto different may not be welcome after we have had such great success handling the event at one course. 
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on December 01, 2010, 01:02:01 PM
Not moving it to Sat for the party, it gives people time to make the chili on Sat!  My Chili starts on Thursday to brew..... ;D

The problem with Canned Food is that we have to collect it and deliver it, and its amazing how many cans of creamed beef stew we end up with.  I prefer to give the money to the charity to buy the food that they know they need.  I don't discourage food I just do not encourage it, having finances to buy the food goes much further as they have partners to buy the food.

We are not partying until the depths of the night on Sunday, so I am not sure but I have heard very few complaints about that, now I have heard it interferes with Church on more than one occassion, and I think that giving the option to do the Saturday round now may alleviate that concern.

Nothing is set in stone yet, but I hope to have some solid ideas in place to start to have all the information needed by the end of next week.

I am leaning towards keeping the course at 18 holes.  Less work in the winter the better for us all!  Plus no learning new holes for those that want to be ultra competitive! ;)
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: David E on December 01, 2010, 01:14:13 PM
Other thoughts and comments:

Changing it to 2-18 hole rounds on Saturday with another on Sunday almost changes the focus from a fun/charity event
to a serious/competivite event.

If it was a two disc only event or double bogey is you friend would that move things along? With 400 players probably not enough to make a difference.

Instead of having events at all courses what if 2 in MO and 2 in KS were designated? Hold the first round at each of the designated courses with the second or final round still at Rosedale, aka Party Central. Players could choose where they played their first round. Some course would hold an advantage over others.
For example PC/Rosey (KS) and Swope/WW (MO) [these are just to demonstrate my point and are in attempt tp cover N-S-E-W]. Set each course up easy so the event remains fun and birdies are plentiful. Set a deadline of 1pm for all rounds to be complete and scores provided to a coordinator at Rosedale. This could be done via email or over the phone. 2-2:30 would begin the second round/finals at Rosedale. If you finished earlier at one of the other courses you'd still have plenty of time to get to rosedale. If you finished last, at 1pm, you'd still have an hour to get across town. If enough people stayed for round 2, Rosey could accomadate 180 by using DU.  It has it's flaws but just another idea to noodle.

If we just had a location with three 18 hole courses in the same park.....
[I threw the softball Dan, you take a cut at it]
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on December 01, 2010, 01:29:31 PM
You will still have the option to play on Sunday, but yes Saturday would be for those more about the competition that is correct.  You get the idea! ;D  Sunday would still be the same albeit hopefully with less people clamoring on the course in the morning, and then more people playing total!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: dickthediscparker on December 01, 2010, 01:31:08 PM
You could do a short awards ceremony at the actual ICE BOWL instead of hey you won at the end cos everyone left. 
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: kidmills on December 01, 2010, 02:21:45 PM
way too much thinking going in to this
jack make up your mind.................you are the MMFIC?
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on December 01, 2010, 03:19:16 PM
But I sway with the wind!

I will have definitive answers by the end of next week!

In the mean time, keep those ideas and thoughts coming!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Tom on December 01, 2010, 03:46:23 PM
Keep it simple. Folks show up at Rosey and play one round, teeing off no later than 10:30. The top 8 scores play a final 9 round for the title in the afternoon. Everyone else either follows the two cards and partys in a gallery, or plays mini and partys, or does the CTP thing and partys, and eat, drink and be merry.

My way or the highway. Highway 69 south to Pittsburg, Kansas's Ice Bowl that is.  :P
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: john theiss on December 01, 2010, 04:36:53 PM
Keep it simple. Folks show up at Rosey and play one round, teeing off no later than 10:30. The top 8 scores play a final 9 round for the title in the afternoon. Everyone else either follows the two cards and partys in a gallery, or plays mini and partys, or does the CTP thing and partys, and eat, drink and be merry.

Tom makes some good points.  It would be a new and exciting format to have a huge gallery following the top cards at the ICE BOWL.  It would be like the ultimate beer league with the gallery heckling and cheering.

 What about a finals round on Sunday that can only be played by those players that played in the more serious round on Saturday.  Let all those who want to experience the ICE BOWL madness like in prior years play on Sunday and only play one round.  When their round is over they get to hang out, play mini, socialize, drink, eat and be merry.  We could have tee times for sale and everyone else just waits their turn.  Selling tee times would be another revenue generator.  Tom suggested a 10:30 mandatory tee time and that should give enough time for at least a final 9 with the top cards from Sat .

We could always use the down under for the masses of players on Sunday.  I played the down under last year and it was a great time and no major backups.   
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on December 01, 2010, 05:24:32 PM
I have met some great people playing the "final 9" during the Ice Bowl that I may not have otherwise met.  I don't like the idea of only a viewing final 9, and the fact that I cannot get any redemption on the people that shot the score that I did.....Food for thought though, Ill keep it in mind.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: David E on December 01, 2010, 08:33:48 PM
Keep it simple. Folks show up at Rosey and play one round, teeing off no later than 10:30.

Only problem is you can't get 400 tee'd off by 10:30
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Tom on December 02, 2010, 07:25:48 AM
Keep it simple. Folks show up at Rosey and play one round, teeing off no later than 10:30.

Only problem is you can't get 400 tee'd off by 10:30

I agree that 400 players cannot be teed of before 10:30. I would say the most that could be teed off would be around 150.....
starting at 7:00 with a fivesome going off every 7 minutes would be 150 players teed off by 10:30. No wonder there is always such a cluster... ;D
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: kchippie on December 02, 2010, 11:13:38 AM
So it would seem that we need 3 different start times to get everyone a chance to throw.  What if we sold tee times for 3 rounds?  If you want to play all 3 then you have to donate for all 3.  You can play as many rounds as you want turn in one score.  With a playoff Sunday afternoon for the top 8.  That would keep us on the same course, give everyone a chance to play and generate more donations.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on December 02, 2010, 11:57:33 AM
Everything is becoming too formal, too organized for a charity event.  Just show up with you can, donate and have fun...

Yes, that doesnt change on Sunday at all Doug.  I just want to get some of the frustrated folks to not only have that frustration relieved, but also then allow them to play disc golf as they prefer and then come out to the fun on Sunday.  That is goal.  The goal is not to make it an official event, but to give that component of it, as an option on the previous day for those that want to play as a more structured event, but then on Sunday can let loose, hopefully defraying some of the people for  this year, and in turn opening the course for others to join in, and increase our participation over all.

I don't want to take away from the fun festival that the Ice Bowl has become, but I would like to see a little bit of ease on the time lapse between holes.

I want to keep the fun, and some of the delays, as it makes for great conversations in the middle of winter with many people that we dont get to see, but I also want to hopefully get more people to help on Sunday by having the availability to not worry about when you want to get your round in..... ;D
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Rick Rothstein on December 02, 2010, 12:30:04 PM
First of all, here's some history for the KC Ice Bowl. It's notable that the event has been run the same way for the last several years and has been growing steadily since 2007.

                       Cash   Pounds   Participants   Avg Temp   Snow on Ground
1996   Kansas City   KS   $175   204   85   42   4
1997   Kansas City   MO   $300   15   73   23   3
1998   Kansas City   KS   $325   0   100   33   0
1999   Kansas City   KS   $375   0         
2000   Kansas City   KS   $347   20   114   25   1
2001   Kansas City   KS   $1,784   200   148   35   0
2002   Kansas City   KS   $2,018   200   147   33   2
2003   Kansas City   KS   $2,400   150   150   18   0
2004   Kansas City   KS   $1,586   200   110   29   1
2005   Kansas City   KS   $2,572   25   170   34   1
2006   Kansas City   KS   $4,020   10   236   46   0
2007   Kansas City   KS   $3,000   0   212   16   2
2008   Kansas City   KS   $4,042   0   295   46   1
2009   Kansas City   KS   $4,300   20   337   21   0
2010   Kansas City   KS   $5,335   0   403   31   0

We tracked 403 players last year (see list below). My guess is that we had 350 on the ground, which meant that we had 50 or 60 people supporting the cause by purchasing a package but didn't come out. Of those 350 who were there, 167 played both rounds, and there were first round scores know for another 91 folks. I know for sure that there were several of the people we show no scores for who did play at least one round. (And there would have been a few more playing the last round except there was a communication lapse from the tournament staff.)

I like the idea of a competitive event on Saturday at Rosedale as long as it enhances the total for charity. It might indeed take some pressure off the crowding on Sunday and would make Jamie Barry happy.

However, I believe that we shouldn't mess with Sunday that much, and that the Traveling Trophy that goes back many years continues to be awarded to the player who plays both rounds and scores the best on Sunday. Those who played on Saturday would be welcome to participate in the fun, food, and games, but if they wanted to play for the trophy and one of those DX discs that the winning player out of each card gets after round 2, they would have to pay again.

I believe one of the reasons for Ice Bowl's success in drawing many players who don't usually play any other events is that we push fun over competition. (Let's face it, how serious can any competition be that sells mulligans?). Also, by giving away discs on every card, we make winners of many people, some of whom for the first time on a DG course. A final nine for Ice Bowl is a dubious idea at best, especially if it resulted in no 9-hole round for everyone else.

I agree that Ice Bowl in KC is a bit (or even bigger than a bit) of a cluster****. I've been both amazed and quite pleased that an overwhelming majority of folks have taken the No Whining rule to heart. This is not to say that we shouldn't be trying to make things move more quickly out there.  However, due the nature and history of the event, and that  Ice Bowl draws more recreational  players than experienced competitors, trying to structure rounds at Ice Bowl is akin to cat herding. But, here's an idea with all baskets in their shortest positions.

Round 1-Flight 1 tee off at 8 a.m. 90 people on each course. Mulligans are in effect.
Round 1-Flight 2 tee off at 10:15. 90 people on each course. Mulligans are in effect.

Lunch and games: noon to 2:00

Final round: 2:15  Hopefully enough people will not play the second round, but be prepared for sixsomes, sevensomes, or more.  With sevensomes on each of 36 holes allows 252 people to play. Again, last year, we had 167 play both rounds.

Of course, if the weather is icy, then we're probably screwed as Downunder can be nearly unplayable when iced. A mistake was made several years ago when people were sent Downunder when it was icy, which produced at least one serious injury.

 I'm very skeptical that we could get 180 players to show up at 8 a.m. And then, there's the issue of what they do until lunch.

Here's that list of participants from last year.

Cecil   Cameron   43   24   67
Steve   Harris   45   23   68
Leo   Daprato   45   24   69
Chaz   Bell   72   0   72
Garison   Green   44   29   73
Lance   Dwyer   47   27   74
CD   Steiner   50   24   74
Roger   Veach   50   24   74
Tom   Butler   49   27   76
Steve   Drew   50   26   76
Dan   Quinn   51   25   76
Matt   Shively   51   25   76
David   Valdiviez   49   27   76
Demian   Vela   50   26   76
Nick   Winkelbauer   53   24   77
Marshall   Wolfe   50   27   77
Paul   Eklund   51   27   78
Aaron   Gabrielese   47   31   78
Jeff   Hoglund   51   27   78
Brian   Woodson   52   26   78
Jon   Benedick   51   28   79
Granville   Hare   51   28   79
Airin   Lee   53   26   79
Damoun   Nikbakht   50   29   79
Bob   Walker   53   26   79
Rizzloe   Jones   56   24   80
James   McLaughlin   53   27   80
Anthony    Puryear   53   27   80
Otto   Spiers   48   32   80
John   Theiss   52   28   80
Steve    Dresser   56   25   81
Josh   Engle   54   27   81
Andre   Labruyere   55   26   81
Scott   Melrose   53   28   81
William   Mersman   54   27   81
Bill   Neenan   52   29   81
Rodney   Beagle   55   27   82
Cameron   Keeling   54   28   82
Jim   Muzic   54   28   82
Derek   Newman   51   31   82
John   Nichols   54   28   82
Luke   Anderson   52   31   83
Ryan   Anderson   56   27   83
Brandon   Card   56   27   83
Rick   Cronin   54   29   83
Kyle   Gardner   56   27   83
Glenn   Lowderman   57   26   83
Stuart   Rangel   54   29   83
Dylan   Thomas   55   28   83
Seth   Wolzen   52   31   83
Erin   Bartling   58   26   84
Brad   Berve   51   33   84
Paul   Salierno   57   27   84
Chris   Scherzer   54   30   84
Jeremy   Sexton   56   28   84
Shawn   Stanton   54   30   84
Chris   Timko   55   29   84
Charles   Hoogner   61   24   85
Amanda   Jackson   56   29   85
Danny   Knox   57   28   85
Andy   Lewis   53   32   85
John   Moloney   57   28   85
Chris   Palmer   54   31   85
Mio   Sillings   58   27   85
Dean   Uhlman   57   28   85
Ron   Ward   58   27   85
Albert   Boettcher   56   30   86
Joshua   Collins   58   28   86
Kevin   Corbin   57   29   86
Kevin   Montgomery   57   29   86
Tom   Oldfather   59   27   86
Tom   Verstrate   53   33   86
Keith   Warner   55   31   86
Kyle    Brady   56   31   87
Connor   Callahan   59   28   87
Chase   Cooper   58   29   87
Dan   Howard   61   26   87
Eric   Kolkmeier   58   29   87
Levi   Malottki   54   33   87
Tony   Whatley   58   29   87
Maurice R   Gleuzinier   57   31   88
Ben   Hilleary   60   28   88
Miles   McKee   54   34   88
Chris   Millsap   57   31   88
Jed   Neenan   58   30   88
Clint   Bourne   61   28   89
Steve   Glover   61   28   89
Brian   Greisel   58   31   89
Joel   Smith   57   32   89
Ezra   Brooks   57   33   90
Ben   Crosby   61   29   90
Travis   Daetwiler   59   31   90
Chris   Morasch   60   30   90
Ellis   Ruffin   62   28   90
Van   Spratford   60   30   90
Jeff   Taylor   60   30   90
Steve   Ward   60   30   90
Ben    Gardner   58   33   91
Parker   Goss   62   29   91
Larry   Lee   58   33   91
Danny   O'Connor   58   33   91
Anthony   Pellettiere   59   32   91
Neil   Roth   61   30   91
Jen   Brockman   62   30   92
Andrew   Cox   60   32   92
Corey   Dunbar   63   29   92
Nate   Goodwin   61   31   92
Billy    LaRocca   62   30   92
Matt   Prine   61   31   92
Kyle   Alumbaugh   62   31   93
Shawn   Cox   60   33   93
Bob   Murphy   62   31   93
Phillip   Salcido   61   32   93
Todd   Andrews   58   36   94
Ben   Delp   68   26   94
Kristian   Harmon   64   30   94
Ed   Holbrook   62   32   94
Lee   Jacques   62   32   94
Marc   Mason   64   30   94
Kent   McCluskie   62   32   94
Keith   McGeeney   62   32   94
Connor   Mitts   67   27   94
Dylan   Parker   65   29   94
John   Roth   64   30   94
Jason   Abplanalp   62   33   95
Brad   Lenheim   65   30   95
Greg   Richards   60   35   95
Chris   Komsthoeft   67   29   96
Steven   Rahmer   67   29   96
Jason   Dockery   67   30   97
Jason   Porter   66   31   97
Mike   Spady   66   31   97
Lee   Washburn   68   29   97
Jeff   Conner   69   29   98
Jacob   Kruger   63   35   98
Eric   Sevart   63   35   98
Kent   Turpin   68   30   98
Ryan   Witkowski   67   31   98
Ben   Anderson   65   34   99
Nathan   Atkins   68   31   99
Anthony   Baker   67   32   99
Leighann   Hoglund   65   35   100
Colby   Mathews   66   34   100
Kenneth   Trujillo   65   35   100
Sean   Childs   70   31   101
Kyle   Mitchell   70   31   101
Matt   Jarvis   66   36   102
Russell   Loving   70   33   103
Matt   Neenan   62   41   103
Deijon   Riddle   68   36   104
Jason   Atkins   72   33   105
Rhonda   Crosby   70   35   105
Caleb   Mason   75   31   106
Josh   Mason   72   35   107
Cody   Sarras   74   33   107
Mike   Jones   71   37   108
Mark   Cooper   73   36   109
David   Atkins   74   36   110
Mike    Dresser   77   33   110
Joanna   Johnson   78   34   112
Jacque   Anderson   73   42   115
JJ   Miller   75   41   116
Jesse   Roth   80   38   118
Joy   Heaviland   78   42   120
Rick   Leal   84   37   121
Garrett   Raibble   85   40   125
Kevin   Wendel   81   44   125
Sara   Wolzen   85   41   126
Mike   Thomas   47   999   1046
Brad   Damico   51   999   1050
Pete   Cashen   52   999   1051
Ben   Hansen   52   999   1051
Brian   Palmer   52   999   1051
Jim   Sherwood   52   999   1051
Brett   Burgess   53   999   1052
David   Hoglund   53   999   1052
Greg   Lewis   53   999   1052
Bear   Williams   53   999   1052
Jamie   Barrie   54   999   1053
Tim   Becks   54   999   1053
Jack    Lowe   54   999   1053
Ryan   Muinks   54   999   1053
Craig   Tilton   54   999   1053
Brad   Wunschl   54   999   1053
Steve   Flowers   55   999   1054
Travis   Horn   55   999   1054
Scott   Lambert   55   999   1054
Ryan   Oldham   55   999   1054
Bill   Shinoski   55   999   1054
David   Walker   55   999   1054
Angie   Biondo   56   999   1055
Tim   Richardson   56   999   1055
Ben   Taylor   56   999   1055
Pauly   Cross   57   999   1056
Chris   Lett   57   999   1056
Tony   Roush   57   999   1056
Dennis   Smith   57   999   1056
Tiger   Brasel   58   999   1057
Fred   Netherton   58   999   1057
Dennis   Sharkey   58   999   1057
Patrick   Shaw   58   999   1057
Steve   Timmensh   58   999   1057
David   Tull   58   999   1057
Chris   Cossette   59   999   1058
David   Eaton   59   999   1058
Sam   Feldman   59   999   1058
Jason   Mattox   59   999   1058
Mike   Audley   60   999   1059
Adam    Cossette   61   999   1060
Justice   Dopson   61   999   1060
Steve   Engelman   61   999   1060
Davin   Makley   61   999   1060
Timmy   Veith   61   999   1060
Evan   Vogelsmeier   61   999   1060
Michael   Cowdam   62   999   1061
Tim   Deddens   62   999   1061
Caleb    Dopson   62   999   1061
Andrew   Lovingood   62   999   1061
Cody   Seagroves   62   999   1061
John   Wassergood   62   999   1061
Joshuah   Embrey   63   999   1062
Tiffanie   Perry   63   999   1062
Jake   Williams   63   999   1062
Mike   Keizer   64   999   1063
Mike   Gardner   65   999   1064
Ray   Kinnett   65   999   1064
Denis   Stanley   65   999   1064
Andrew   Stith   65   999   1064
Robert   Chapman   66   999   1065
Bill    Cobb   66   999   1065
Jeff   Dyer   66   999   1065
Mike   Filla   66   999   1065
Roger   Omon   66   999   1065
Dan   Weinert   66   999   1065
Casey   Bohr   67   999   1066
Greg   Curtain   67   999   1066
Josh   Ferguson   67   999   1066
Rob   Hack   67   999   1066
Steve   Michnick   67   999   1066
Ben   Mull   67   999   1066
Andrew   Payne   67   999   1066
Andy   Bryant   68   999   1067
Bob   Currie   68   999   1067
CJ   Snapp   69   999   1068
Dusty   Dewitt   70   999   1069
Becky   Stebbins   71   999   1070
Curt   Nesseth   72   999   1071
Tim   Warner   72   999   1071
Karen   Casey   73   999   1072
Paul   Borjas   74   999   1073
James   Snyder   75   999   1074
Charles   Wadick   75   999   1074
Lacey   Corp   76   999   1075
Kelly   Meiser   81   999   1080
Nicole   Cook   86   999   1085
Vestal   Cook   86   999   1085
Ashley   Jones   95   999   1094
Kevin   Smith   999   999   1998
Ryan   Alquist         
Jacob   Ambrose         
Ben   Barrows         
John   Bellinghausen         
Justin   Benjamin         
Ryne   Box         
Frank    Boyd*         
Michael   Bribesca         
Jamie   Brizendine         
Crazy John   Brooks         
Jerry   Brown         
Larry   Burger         
Cindy   Butler         
Dan   Butler         
Tavish   Carduff         
Dan   Cashen         
Josh   Clair         
Robert   Clasen         
Kevin   Clawson         
Steve   Clayton         
Narin   Clouse         
Brad   Coddington         
Scott   Conner         
Ari   Crane         
Albert   Crist         
Kevin   Crist         
Andrian   Daniels         
Thomas   David         
Nathan   Desetti         
Bobby   Domsch         
Casey   Dopson         
Marilyn   Doyle         
Shawn   Edwards         
Sean   Elliott         
David   Emerson         
Greg   Endres         
Peter   Engelman         
Charlie   Faltermeier         
Matt   Fox         
Cecil   Freeze         
Clay   Gammil         
Brian   Gator         
Jonathan   Gatson         
Luke   Gibson         
Amanda   Gideon         
Ed   Gonzales         
Elza   Gott         
Tom   Gottschalk         
Parker   Gross         
Bryan   Guthrie         
Cameron   Harmeyer         
Bryan   Harrelson         
Bob   Hayett         
Justin   Hendricks         
Matt   Hendrics         
Micah   Herman         
Juan   Hernandez         
Max   Hilgers         
David   Hoglund         
Dan   Hopkins?         
Ken   Hostetler         
Steve   Hostetler         
Matt   Hummell         
Chris   Icenogle         
Aaron   Johnson         
Mike   Johnson         
Jody   Johnson-O'Keefe         
Ted   Keith         
Steve   Kling         
Joshua   Klusman         
Danny   Knox         
David    Koenig         
Hal    Kurz         
Tyler   Leahy         
Doug   Linville         
Mike   Lodes         
Rich   Lodes         
Gary   Long         
Luke   Longeor         
Travis   Love         
Michael   Lowderman         
Davin   Markley         
Bob   McDaniel         
Matt   McNally         
Mark   Mills         
Mark   Morales         
Mark   Mustain         
Billy   Nelson         
Steven   Nichols         
Julie   Olliso         
Lisa   Olliso         
Sam   Olliso         
Scott   Oost         
Josh   Oothoudt         
Darryl   Palmer         
Dick   Parker         
Jesse   Payne         
Josh   Peck         
Tyler   Popejoy         
Neil   Porras         
James   Ragland         
Steven   Rehmwe         
Jerimiah   Reynolds         
Grant   Roberts         
Jon   Robertson         
Becky   Roth         
Travis   Roth         
Rick   Rothstein         
Tim   Sarras         
Kasper   Schirer         
Sam   Schirer         
David   Shoemaker         
Ed   Showalter         
Phil   Showalter         
Bill   Shumard         
Mike   Specht         
Thomas   Spencer         
Shagy   St Stephen         
Pat   Stallbaumer         
Joshua   Stites         
Ryan   Stuart         
Jason   Tomlinson         
Bill   Turner         
DJ   Turner         
Reid   Vilbig         
Tracy   Walker         
Alex   Walter         
Bob   Ward         
Kelly   Warren         
Lynne   Warren         
Spence   Weatherholt         
Jeff   Webb         
Hans   Weding         
Brian   Welty         
John   Welty         
Keith   Werner         
Tim   Werner         
Adam   Witt         
Mike   Wolf         
Matthew   Zenartch         
Nick   Zipf         



Keep it simple. Folks show up at Rosey and play one round, teeing off no later than 10:30.

Only problem is you can't get 400 tee'd off by 10:30

I agree that 400 players cannot be teed of before 10:30. I would say the most that could be teed off would be around 150.....
starting at 7:00 with a fivesome going off every 7 minutes would be 150 players teed off by 10:30. No wonder there is always such a cluster... ;D

Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: john theiss on December 02, 2010, 12:35:04 PM
Keep it simple. Folks show up at Rosey and play one round, teeing off no later than 10:30.

Only problem is you can't get 400 tee'd off by 10:30

I agree that 400 players cannot be teed of before 10:30. I would say the most that could be teed off would be around 150.....
starting at 7:00 with a fivesome going off every 7 minutes would be 150 players teed off by 10:30. No wonder there is always such a cluster... ;D


What about using the DU with tee times?  You say 150 folks by 10:30 Tom, well then with the DU in play you have 300 players accounted for.  How many people want to play on Saturday? Will 100 people want to play on Saturday?  I guess that is a question that needs more attention.  I get why the DU can be dicey but it is still a great option. 
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: dickthediscparker on December 02, 2010, 12:36:16 PM
9 in the morning and 9 in the afternoon.  OR  Why not do 18 sat morning and 9 in the after noon and then repeat on Sunday for those who didn't come out Sat.    If you want to avoid the crowds but want to be in the running for the trophy you can come out Sat.   Just the weather could differ but that is the risk you take.  
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: dickthediscparker on December 02, 2010, 12:36:46 PM
Keep it simple. Folks show up at Rosey and play one round, teeing off no later than 10:30.

Only problem is you can't get 400 tee'd off by 10:30

I agree that 400 players cannot be teed of before 10:30. I would say the most that could be teed off would be around 150.....
starting at 7:00 with a fivesome going off every 7 minutes would be 150 players teed off by 10:30. No wonder there is always such a cluster... ;D


What about using the DU with tee times?  You say 150 folks by 10:30 Tom, well then with the DU in play you have 300 players accounted for.  How many people want to play on Saturday? Will 100 people want to play on Saturday?  I guess that is a question that needs more attention.  I get why the DU can be dicey but it is still a great option. 

It is not a good option if dicey... The liability is insane
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: john theiss on December 02, 2010, 12:47:24 PM
I agree with you Dick and it might be a bad risk with the weather.  However, it has been a mild winter so far. 

Smithville and the future Blue Valley are looking to be great future sites.   ;D   Three courses  would make this so much easier for you Jack  ; :D 

Regardless of my dicey ideas,i will be there to help you Jack
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on December 02, 2010, 01:30:30 PM
ok.....

I really dont want to change the ice bowl.  I like it the way it is.

I want to let people play competitively on Saturday and award a winner on the play based on 2 rounds of play for Saturday.

I want them to come out and play on Sunday as well, just that they wouldnt have to play 18 holes to turn in a score, it would come from the best round they shot on Saturday, then they would be able to come and enjoy the mess known as the Ice Bowl.

I can see Rick's point in keeping with the tradition of the Ice Bowl trophy, traditions are hard to beat, and since the previous winners all had the mulligans to win the bucket, by golly they should stay that way.

My thought though is really not that hard to grasp.  Play would be available on Saturday.  Of course all the proceeds would go towards the overall Ice Bowl tally, this is not a seperate event to alienate the Ice Bowl, but rather an enhancement to possibly drive more participation to the events on Sunday.

I remember about 4 yrs ago though that Saturday was BEAUTIFUL, like 60 degrees, then we got a storm late in the afternoon and Sunday was a white wonderland, then melted away to find our plastic.  So Saturday's scores may be inflated or deflated based on the weather.  I am willing to take that score though as no mulligans would be allowed on Saturday.

It will be a straight disc golf play with regulation rules, 5 or 6 somes (if we have that many) and set times on Saturday so possibly those people that miss Sunday morning rounds would now have a chance to play in the afternoon final 9.

I like the idea of the Ice Bowl Champion still needing to play both rounds on Sunday, so we would then crown a King and Queen of the Ice Bowl on Saturday, and allow them to hold court on Sunday.  That is altered from my original thought that you could be both the King and the Champion, you could of course be that, but it would require playing both days in all rounds.

So its sounding like something will happen on Saturday, I am liking some of the ideas that are coming out.  I will again make some final decisions by the end of the week NEXT week, and should have a solid idea of where things stand for the Ice Bowl 2011 from this MMIC! ;D
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: NoSponsor on December 02, 2010, 06:29:50 PM
The Ice Bowl is a Big Event, I think that is taxing right now because we have outgrown Rosedale with all the participants..  Which is a good thing when you consider that we are raising money for charity. 

How about Saturday before the Ice Bowl you have a two round tournament with a required entry fee into the Ice Bowl.  Then you must also pay 20 dollars for the Saturday Tournament.  Whoever wins Saturday is the King of that Saturday.  Then hopefully everyone shows up for Sunday to play as well for the Ice Bowl Cup if they want to.  If you want the cup, then you have to deal with everything that goes along with the Ice Bowl.  Which means, until we have a setup like Smithvilles 3 courses in one area or Blue Valleys proposed changes then you will have to deal with delays, casual play, and some fun.  Hopefully We can make it easier on the volunteers who run this event.

I like the Ice Bowl on Sunday, the way it is. 
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Tom on December 03, 2010, 05:55:29 AM
First of all, here's some history for the KC Ice Bowl. It's notable that the event has been run the same way for the last several years and has been growing steadily since 2007.

                       Cash   Pounds   Participants   Avg Temp   Snow on Ground
1996   Kansas City   KS   $175   204   85   42   4
1997   Kansas City   MO   $300   15   73   23   3
1998   Kansas City   KS   $325   0   100   33   0
1999   Kansas City   KS   $375   0         
2000   Kansas City   KS   $347   20   114   25   1
2001   Kansas City   KS   $1,784   200   148   35   0
2002   Kansas City   KS   $2,018   200   147   33   2
2003   Kansas City   KS   $2,400   150   150   18   0
2004   Kansas City   KS   $1,586   200   110   29   1
2005   Kansas City   KS   $2,572   25   170   34   1
2006   Kansas City   KS   $4,020   10   236   46   0
2007   Kansas City   KS   $3,000   0   212   16   2
2008   Kansas City   KS   $4,042   0   295   46   1
2009   Kansas City   KS   $4,300   20   337   21   0
2010   Kansas City   KS   $5,335   0   403   31   0

We tracked 403 players last year (see list below). My guess is that we had 350 on the ground, which meant that we had 50 or 60 people supporting the cause by purchasing a package but didn't come out. Of those 350 who were there, 167 played both rounds, and there were first round scores know for another 91 folks. I know for sure that there were several of the people we show no scores for who did play at least one round. (And there would have been a few more playing the last round except there was a communication lapse from the tournament staff.)

I like the idea of a competitive event on Saturday at Rosedale as long as it enhances the total for charity. It might indeed take some pressure off the crowding on Sunday and would make Jamie Barry happy.

However, I believe that we shouldn't mess with Sunday that much, and that the Traveling Trophy that goes back many years continues to be awarded to the player who plays both rounds and scores the best on Sunday. Those who played on Saturday would be welcome to participate in the fun, food, and games, but if they wanted to play for the trophy and one of those DX discs that the winning player out of each card gets after round 2, they would have to pay again.

I believe one of the reasons for Ice Bowl's success in drawing many players who don't usually play any other events is that we push fun over competition. (Let's face it, how serious can any competition be that sells mulligans?). Also, by giving away discs on every card, we make winners of many people, some of whom for the first time on a DG course. A final nine for Ice Bowl is a dubious idea at best, especially if it resulted in no 9-hole round for everyone else.

I agree that Ice Bowl in KC is a bit (or even bigger than a bit) of a cluster****. I've been both amazed and quite pleased that an overwhelming majority of folks have taken the No Whining rule to heart. This is not to say that we shouldn't be trying to make things move more quickly out there.  However, due the nature and history of the event, and that  Ice Bowl draws more recreational  players than experienced competitors, trying to structure rounds at Ice Bowl is akin to cat herding. But, here's an idea with all baskets in their shortest positions.

Round 1-Flight 1 tee off at 8 a.m. 90 people on each course. Mulligans are in effect.
Round 1-Flight 2 tee off at 10:15. 90 people on each course. Mulligans are in effect.

Lunch and games: noon to 2:00

Final round: 2:15  Hopefully enough people will not play the second round, but be prepared for sixsomes, sevensomes, or more.  With sevensomes on each of 36 holes allows 252 people to play. Again, last year, we had 167 play both rounds.

Of course, if the weather is icy, then we're probably screwed as Downunder can be nearly unplayable when iced. A mistake was made several years ago when people were sent Downunder when it was icy, which produced at least one serious injury.

 I'm very skeptical that we could get 180 players to show up at 8 a.m. And then, there's the issue of what they do until lunch.

Here's that list of participants from last year.

Cecil   Cameron   43   24   67
Steve   Harris   45   23   68
Leo   Daprato   45   24   69
Chaz   Bell   72   0   72
Garison   Green   44   29   73
Lance   Dwyer   47   27   74
CD   Steiner   50   24   74
Roger   Veach   50   24   74
Steve   Drew   50   26   76
Dan   Quinn   51   25   76
Matt   Shively   51   25   76
David   Valdiviez   49   27   76
Demian   Vela   50   26   76
Nick   Winkelbauer   53   24   77
Marshall   Wolfe   50   27   77
Paul   Eklund   51   27   78
Aaron   Gabrielese   47   31   78
Jeff   Hoglund   51   27   78
Brian   Woodson   52   26   78
Jon   Benedick   51   28   79
Granville   Hare   51   28   79
Airin   Lee   53   26   79
Damoun   Nikbakht   50   29   79
Bob   Walker   53   26   79
Rizzloe   Jones   56   24   80
James   McLaughlin   53   27   80
Anthony    Puryear   53   27   80
Otto   Spiers   48   32   80
John   Theiss   52   28   80
Steve    Dresser   56   25   81
Josh   Engle   54   27   81
Andre   Labruyere   55   26   81
Scott   Melrose   53   28   81
William   Mersman   54   27   81
Bill   Neenan   52   29   81
Rodney   Beagle   55   27   82
Cameron   Keeling   54   28   82
Jim   Muzic   54   28   82
Derek   Newman   51   31   82
John   Nichols   54   28   82
Luke   Anderson   52   31   83
Ryan   Anderson   56   27   83
Brandon   Card   56   27   83
Rick   Cronin   54   29   83
Kyle   Gardner   56   27   83
Glenn   Lowderman   57   26   83
Stuart   Rangel   54   29   83
Dylan   Thomas   55   28   83
Seth   Wolzen   52   31   83
Erin   Bartling   58   26   84
Brad   Berve   51   33   84
Paul   Salierno   57   27   84
Chris   Scherzer   54   30   84
Jeremy   Sexton   56   28   84
Shawn   Stanton   54   30   84
Chris   Timko   55   29   84
Charles   Hoogner   61   24   85
Amanda   Jackson   56   29   85
Danny   Knox   57   28   85
Andy   Lewis   53   32   85
John   Moloney   57   28   85
Chris   Palmer   54   31   85
Mio   Sillings   58   27   85
Dean   Uhlman   57   28   85
Ron   Ward   58   27   85
Albert   Boettcher   56   30   86
Tom   Butler   49   37   86
Joshua   Collins   58   28   86
Kevin   Corbin   57   29   86
Kevin   Montgomery   57   29   86
Tom   Oldfather   59   27   86
Tom   Verstrate   53   33   86
Keith   Warner   55   31   86
Kyle    Brady   56   31   87
Connor   Callahan   59   28   87
Chase   Cooper   58   29   87
Dan   Howard   61   26   87
Eric   Kolkmeier   58   29   87
Levi   Malottki   54   33   87
Tony   Whatley   58   29   87
Maurice R   Gleuzinier   57   31   88
Ben   Hilleary   60   28   88
Miles   McKee   54   34   88
Chris   Millsap   57   31   88
Jed   Neenan   58   30   88
Clint   Bourne   61   28   89
Steve   Glover   61   28   89
Brian   Greisel   58   31   89
Joel   Smith   57   32   89
Ezra   Brooks   57   33   90
Ben   Crosby   61   29   90
Travis   Daetwiler   59   31   90
Chris   Morasch   60   30   90
Ellis   Ruffin   62   28   90
Van   Spratford   60   30   90
Jeff   Taylor   60   30   90
Steve   Ward   60   30   90
Ben    Gardner   58   33   91
Parker   Goss   62   29   91
Larry   Lee   58   33   91
Danny   O'Connor   58   33   91
Anthony   Pellettiere   59   32   91
Neil   Roth   61   30   91
Jen   Brockman   62   30   92
Andrew   Cox   60   32   92
Corey   Dunbar   63   29   92
Nate   Goodwin   61   31   92
Billy    LaRocca   62   30   92
Matt   Prine   61   31   92
Kyle   Alumbaugh   62   31   93
Shawn   Cox   60   33   93
Bob   Murphy   62   31   93
Phillip   Salcido   61   32   93
Todd   Andrews   58   36   94
Ben   Delp   68   26   94
Kristian   Harmon   64   30   94
Ed   Holbrook   62   32   94
Lee   Jacques   62   32   94
Marc   Mason   64   30   94
Kent   McCluskie   62   32   94
Keith   McGeeney   62   32   94
Connor   Mitts   67   27   94
Dylan   Parker   65   29   94
John   Roth   64   30   94
Jason   Abplanalp   62   33   95
Brad   Lenheim   65   30   95
Greg   Richards   60   35   95
Chris   Komsthoeft   67   29   96
Steven   Rahmer   67   29   96
Jason   Dockery   67   30   97
Jason   Porter   66   31   97
Mike   Spady   66   31   97
Lee   Washburn   68   29   97
Jeff   Conner   69   29   98
Jacob   Kruger   63   35   98
Eric   Sevart   63   35   98
Kent   Turpin   68   30   98
Ryan   Witkowski   67   31   98
Ben   Anderson   65   34   99
Nathan   Atkins   68   31   99
Anthony   Baker   67   32   99
Leighann   Hoglund   65   35   100
Colby   Mathews   66   34   100
Kenneth   Trujillo   65   35   100
Sean   Childs   70   31   101
Kyle   Mitchell   70   31   101
Matt   Jarvis   66   36   102
Russell   Loving   70   33   103
Matt   Neenan   62   41   103
Deijon   Riddle   68   36   104
Jason   Atkins   72   33   105
Rhonda   Crosby   70   35   105
Caleb   Mason   75   31   106
Josh   Mason   72   35   107
Cody   Sarras   74   33   107
Mike   Jones   71   37   108
Mark   Cooper   73   36   109
David   Atkins   74   36   110
Mike    Dresser   77   33   110
Joanna   Johnson   78   34   112
Jacque   Anderson   73   42   115
JJ   Miller   75   41   116
Jesse   Roth   80   38   118
Joy   Heaviland   78   42   120
Rick   Leal   84   37   121
Garrett   Raibble   85   40   125
Kevin   Wendel   81   44   125
Sara   Wolzen   85   41   126
Mike   Thomas   47   999   1046
Brad   Damico   51   999   1050
Pete   Cashen   52   999   1051
Ben   Hansen   52   999   1051
Brian   Palmer   52   999   1051
Jim   Sherwood   52   999   1051
Brett   Burgess   53   999   1052
David   Hoglund   53   999   1052
Greg   Lewis   53   999   1052
Bear   Williams   53   999   1052
Jamie   Barrie   54   999   1053
Tim   Becks   54   999   1053
Jack    Lowe   54   999   1053
Ryan   Muinks   54   999   1053
Craig   Tilton   54   999   1053
Brad   Wunschl   54   999   1053
Steve   Flowers   55   999   1054
Travis   Horn   55   999   1054
Scott   Lambert   55   999   1054
Ryan   Oldham   55   999   1054
Bill   Shinoski   55   999   1054
David   Walker   55   999   1054
Angie   Biondo   56   999   1055
Tim   Richardson   56   999   1055
Ben   Taylor   56   999   1055
Pauly   Cross   57   999   1056
Chris   Lett   57   999   1056
Tony   Roush   57   999   1056
Dennis   Smith   57   999   1056
Tiger   Brasel   58   999   1057
Fred   Netherton   58   999   1057
Dennis   Sharkey   58   999   1057
Patrick   Shaw   58   999   1057
Steve   Timmensh   58   999   1057
David   Tull   58   999   1057
Chris   Cossette   59   999   1058
David   Eaton   59   999   1058
Sam   Feldman   59   999   1058
Jason   Mattox   59   999   1058
Mike   Audley   60   999   1059
Adam    Cossette   61   999   1060
Justice   Dopson   61   999   1060
Steve   Engelman   61   999   1060
Davin   Makley   61   999   1060
Timmy   Veith   61   999   1060
Evan   Vogelsmeier   61   999   1060
Michael   Cowdam   62   999   1061
Tim   Deddens   62   999   1061
Caleb    Dopson   62   999   1061
Andrew   Lovingood   62   999   1061
Cody   Seagroves   62   999   1061
John   Wassergood   62   999   1061
Joshuah   Embrey   63   999   1062
Tiffanie   Perry   63   999   1062
Jake   Williams   63   999   1062
Mike   Keizer   64   999   1063
Mike   Gardner   65   999   1064
Ray   Kinnett   65   999   1064
Denis   Stanley   65   999   1064
Andrew   Stith   65   999   1064
Robert   Chapman   66   999   1065
Bill    Cobb   66   999   1065
Jeff   Dyer   66   999   1065
Mike   Filla   66   999   1065
Roger   Omon   66   999   1065
Dan   Weinert   66   999   1065
Casey   Bohr   67   999   1066
Greg   Curtain   67   999   1066
Josh   Ferguson   67   999   1066
Rob   Hack   67   999   1066
Steve   Michnick   67   999   1066
Ben   Mull   67   999   1066
Andrew   Payne   67   999   1066
Andy   Bryant   68   999   1067
Bob   Currie   68   999   1067
CJ   Snapp   69   999   1068
Dusty   Dewitt   70   999   1069
Becky   Stebbins   71   999   1070
Curt   Nesseth   72   999   1071
Tim   Warner   72   999   1071
Karen   Casey   73   999   1072
Paul   Borjas   74   999   1073
James   Snyder   75   999   1074
Charles   Wadick   75   999   1074
Lacey   Corp   76   999   1075
Kelly   Meiser   81   999   1080
Nicole   Cook   86   999   1085
Vestal   Cook   86   999   1085
Ashley   Jones   95   999   1094
Kevin   Smith   999   999   1998
Ryan   Alquist         
Jacob   Ambrose         
Ben   Barrows         
John   Bellinghausen         
Justin   Benjamin         
Ryne   Box         
Frank    Boyd*         
Michael   Bribesca         
Jamie   Brizendine         
Crazy John   Brooks         
Jerry   Brown         
Larry   Burger         
Cindy   Butler         
Dan   Butler         
Tavish   Carduff         
Dan   Cashen         
Josh   Clair         
Robert   Clasen         
Kevin   Clawson         
Steve   Clayton         
Narin   Clouse         
Brad   Coddington         
Scott   Conner         
Ari   Crane         
Albert   Crist         
Kevin   Crist         
Andrian   Daniels         
Thomas   David         
Nathan   Desetti         
Bobby   Domsch         
Casey   Dopson         
Marilyn   Doyle         
Shawn   Edwards         
Sean   Elliott         
David   Emerson         
Greg   Endres         
Peter   Engelman         
Charlie   Faltermeier         
Matt   Fox         
Cecil   Freeze         
Clay   Gammil         
Brian   Gator         
Jonathan   Gatson         
Luke   Gibson         
Amanda   Gideon         
Ed   Gonzales         
Elza   Gott         
Tom   Gottschalk         
Parker   Gross         
Bryan   Guthrie         
Cameron   Harmeyer         
Bryan   Harrelson         
Bob   Hayett         
Justin   Hendricks         
Matt   Hendrics         
Micah   Herman         
Juan   Hernandez         
Max   Hilgers         
David   Hoglund         
Dan   Hopkins?         
Ken   Hostetler         
Steve   Hostetler         
Matt   Hummell         
Chris   Icenogle         
Aaron   Johnson         
Mike   Johnson         
Jody   Johnson-O'Keefe         
Ted   Keith         
Steve   Kling         
Joshua   Klusman         
Danny   Knox         
David    Koenig         
Hal    Kurz         
Tyler   Leahy         
Doug   Linville         
Mike   Lodes         
Rich   Lodes         
Gary   Long         
Luke   Longeor         
Travis   Love         
Michael   Lowderman         
Davin   Markley         
Bob   McDaniel         
Matt   McNally         
Mark   Mills         
Mark   Morales         
Mark   Mustain         
Billy   Nelson         
Steven   Nichols         
Julie   Olliso         
Lisa   Olliso         
Sam   Olliso         
Scott   Oost         
Josh   Oothoudt         
Darryl   Palmer         
Dick   Parker         
Jesse   Payne         
Josh   Peck         
Tyler   Popejoy         
Neil   Porras         
James   Ragland         
Steven   Rehmwe         
Jerimiah   Reynolds         
Grant   Roberts         
Jon   Robertson         
Becky   Roth         
Travis   Roth         
Rick   Rothstein         
Tim   Sarras         
Kasper   Schirer         
Sam   Schirer         
David   Shoemaker         
Ed   Showalter         
Phil   Showalter         
Bill   Shumard         
Mike   Specht         
Thomas   Spencer         
Shagy   St Stephen         
Pat   Stallbaumer         
Joshua   Stites         
Ryan   Stuart         
Jason   Tomlinson         
Bill   Turner         
DJ   Turner         
Reid   Vilbig         
Tracy   Walker         
Alex   Walter         
Bob   Ward         
Kelly   Warren         
Lynne   Warren         
Spence   Weatherholt         
Jeff   Webb         
Hans   Weding         
Brian   Welty         
John   Welty         
Keith   Werner         
Tim   Werner         
Adam   Witt         
Mike   Wolf         
Matthew   Zenartch         
Nick   Zipf         



Keep it simple. Folks show up at Rosey and play one round, teeing off no later than 10:30.

Only problem is you can't get 400 tee'd off by 10:30

I agree that 400 players cannot be teed of before 10:30. I would say the most that could be teed off would be around 150.....
starting at 7:00 with a fivesome going off every 7 minutes would be 150 players teed off by 10:30. No wonder there is always such a cluster... ;D



Rick,
I shot a 49 and a 27, not 37 for the second round last year.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on December 03, 2010, 09:50:07 AM
[Rick,
I shot a 49 and a 27, not 37 for the second round last year.


Really?

You wanna get the score corrected NOW? ::)
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Tom on December 03, 2010, 10:08:34 AM
Just the facts maam.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: BamBam on December 03, 2010, 10:14:12 AM
Despite the "cluster" that the ice bowl has become, it certainly hasn't decreased participation. I mean, if you just look at it for what it is, you have to say that the more it's become a zoo the more participation has increased.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Rick Rothstein on December 03, 2010, 10:37:38 AM
Just the facts maam.

Under the arcane rules known only to the secret society of Ice Bowl czars as promulgated by Czar Ric Dik You Lus the Elder, your mulligans were rescinded, which when combined with the invocation of the statute of limitations clause concerning whining, your score was adjusted accordingly.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Ken Franks on December 04, 2010, 11:27:36 PM
missed my name on the list, must be an oversite... Swore I was there, and supported by donating $150 in Innova discs... Doesn't that count?
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: John Chapman on December 05, 2010, 12:13:26 AM
missed my name on the list, must be an oversite... Swore I was there, and supported by donating $150 in Innova discs... Doesn't that count?

Sure it does...frankly, (pun intended) it's amazing more names aren't missed....it's an amazing scene with all the people. Pre-registering helps TREMENDOUSLY. Reminder to self...

I don't know if I have any tremendous suggestions. I like Rick's idea the best of the two flights. That idea gets completely screwed if the DU is iced over, however. Perhaps we have a backup plan and disclaimer on the two flights idea. Backup plan is basically the current idea, except perhaps we go to a one-round event up top....with flights at 8:00, 10:15, 12:30, and 2:45.

 I'm not worried so much about what people will do until lunch....that doesn't seem to be much of a problem now, or it's already a tremendous problem, and people have already figured out how to deal with it on their own.

Chap



Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: discglover on December 05, 2010, 12:10:07 PM
I agree with Chappy that our main problem is really after the first round is over.
1. Hoping we have enough chili donators to feed everyone.
2. the time it takes getting in mini and CTP
3. getting everyone back out for 2nd round in an oderly fashion without overcrowding too many tee pads
I've seen #2 cause people to leave before the next round from waiting so long for the next round to start.

I'm on the fence on the possible solutions.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Nightsworn on December 06, 2010, 12:38:11 PM
Not sure if this is already done.  Since it is for charity though, I thought it might be a good idea.   Depending on if donations are made.  (discs, bags, gift certs, etc)  perhaps there can also be raffle tickets sold for items that have been donated?  Maybe some can get companies to donate stuff for charitable contributions??  Just an idea.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on December 06, 2010, 12:45:39 PM
We do that typically through the CTP process where the closest picks from the table first then move along to the next person....

So with that said, we are always looking for great sponsors even it is product not cash.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: ekolk on December 06, 2010, 09:07:43 PM
I read this thread two days ago and gave it some thought. My initial reaction was a bit negative thinking why turn it into a two day event and why diminish the importance of the Sunday rounds. With a little thought, I can see the value in this format now.

If the point of the Ice Bowl is to a) show solidarity in our already awesome disc golf community b) enjoy the cold knowing the warmth is around the corner and c) raise money for our chosen charity, then how can we do that better?

350 - 400 plus for an Ice Bowl is incredible. I have consistently been amazed at the energy and true sense of community I have experienced while eating chili, staying warm, and putting on the best face for our sport. While it does get backed up, Rosedale seems to be very conducive for its LOCATION. Can we get the same draw or better over multiple days? Probably so. Dick and Jack both have good points about the comp. versus the party (In writing, I agreed with Jack and Dick at the same time).  ;)

My thinking is if we are trying achieve the three goals listed above, I bet we can do better. Like many players, I can't usually give my whole weekend to golf. One attractive thing about one day Ice Bowl is being able to show up no matter what and possibly throw it well. However, if it can only be Saturday, then so be it though I really like the Sunday fun.

The weather is out of hands. Does this make a better Ice Bowl? I think we can (as we already put on the biggest).  ;D

No wimps, no whiners.




Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: discglover on December 07, 2010, 10:49:35 AM
I think we do need to do something "different" so I'm not against any suggestions.
BUT lets not turn the course into a club championship setting.
Keep em short n fun!!!!
I have an idea for another way of raising more money if you do keep them short. And possibly add some temp shorties
Have a competition within a competition.
Offer people the opportunity to get in a Monster Metal Mayhem along with The Ice Bowl
Its a points set-up like the ace run. 3pts for an ace 1pt for metal
Your still putting out and keeping track of your regular score along with tracking your metal shots.
If you have an awesome prize for the winner I'm sure you'll get people wanting to try this.
I know I'd be in for another $25
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jamidanger on December 07, 2010, 11:02:53 AM
i like glovers ideas especially since the ace run format moved very quickly and efficiently at blue springs. also why not combine all those "ctp" & "flight" prizes as ctp on certain holes for every group, sure would save time for the end of ice bowl giveaways, just let the winners blind pick grab and go.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: discglover on December 07, 2010, 11:05:34 AM
I like that too then you can charge more for the actual event b y saying all the prizes are out there.
You just have to win them while you play.
Each hole that has a prize should be designated what prize you can win.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: David E on December 07, 2010, 12:38:31 PM
i like glovers ideas especially since the ace run format moved very quickly and efficiently at blue springs. also why not combine all those "ctp" & "flight" prizes as ctp on certain holes for every group, sure would save time for the end of ice bowl giveaways, just let the winners blind pick grab and go.

With all of Rosey set short we could also make Par your friend. Inthe spirit of keeping things moving along... miss that birdie putt, write down a three and move on!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jamidanger on December 07, 2010, 02:53:43 PM
Quote
2011 Ice Bowl/Winter Series -
Creve Coeur - 1/2/2011 - Ryder Cup Points Qualifier
West City - 1/8/2011 - Ryder Cup Points Qualifier
Jefferson Barracks - 1/15/2011 - Ryder Cup Points Qualifier
Quail Ridge - 1/22/2011 - Ryder Cup Points Qualifier
Hazelwood - 2/5/2011 - Ryder Cup Points Qualifier


here's how the ice bowl goes down in the lou, a series of sunday competitive events gathering donations throughout the coldest month culminating in a massive donation to the poor, the wretched, and the hungry. they're also setting up a team for the MO Ryder Cup. note they finish @ Hazelweeds, the "rosedale" of STL for the party atmosphere.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on December 09, 2010, 01:29:24 PM
Ice Bowl is 2 Days this year.

Day 1-Saturday January 29th
2 Rounds Rosedale UpTop
Round one Tee off 9:45 am
Round two Tee off 2:15 pm

Saturday will be a No Frills event.  Standard Entry fee will apply, will have small assortment of discs and minis (players pack) available.  Will not have clothing, will not provide food.

Winner of both rounds for the day will be crowned in King and Queen division (that would be Male and Female divisions, I konw some you boys act like a Queen, but suffice it to say, this is the line that I'm putting out there!).

Please bring CTP prizes to Rosedale on Saturday as well if you cannot make it Sunday.

Sunday is the Ice Bowl Event!

Bring your chili, your CTP's, your friends, your cider, your rumballs.

This year I do not plan on charging for each day, but you will not be able to exchange items that you pick out on Saturday on Sunday (tooo many mistakes could and would happen).  Your best score on Saturday can be your score for Sunday, HOWEVER if you play or indicate that you are going to play a morning round on Sunday, you will need to honor that score.  You will not pick the best out of the 3.

Now I am not going to be a marshal and watch you if you go play a round with your friends on Sunday, but I do ask that you let us know so that we can remove you from the possible scoring to ease complications that could arise.  It is afterall the Ice Bowl, and the last thing I want is to make someone break the rules and Whine because their score wasn't correct.....I mean some people may hold that in for like 10 months and feel really bad about their score and stuff, and I dont want that to happen!

Hopefully next week we shuold have some registration forms, and Sponsorship forms, and possibly a pay-pal link to pre-register.

Looking forward to this.

Thanks,

Jack
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: The Bird Father on December 09, 2010, 01:46:04 PM
Everyone should be on a level playing field....what happens if it's 55 on Sat and 15 with snow on Sunday????

Isn't this suppose to be a Charity event and for FUN????  How's idea was this to make it a PDGA event?   Gahhhhhh....the nerve!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on December 09, 2010, 02:57:31 PM
Everyone should be on a level playing field....what happens if it's 55 on Sat and 15 with snow on Sunday????
Then you can buy more mulligans on Sunday that the people on Saturday could not.  Level the playing field with as much ammo in mullies as you want to use!  Just remember you can't use them the 2nd round!

The ONLY THING CHANGING IS THE FACT THAT YOU CAN PLAY ON SATURDAY NOW!

It's not PDGA, its still Ice Bowl, its just that those that want a more structured and organized disc golf experience, or cannot make it out on Sunday in the morning now have an option.

The Ice Bowl has never been about a level playing field.  Why do you think we sell Mulligans, its for charity, and she loves us for having it for her!

This will simply give a chance for people to possibly play on Saturday that may not have had a chance.  It will also allow those people that cook our chili that sometime are worried more about the chili a chance to play on Saturday and tend to the pots in the morning, and feel less rushed to be getting to Rosey in time to wait around on every hole get things set up and not worry about trying to complete the round.

Hey if it fails, then by all means we can very easily say, screw this, I aint coming out here on 2 days in January any more, and we go back to the Ice Bowl madness that many have grown to love.  I hope that it is still mad on Sunday, but a little more less clustered for many to enjoy because you have more hecklers on Sunday now to jest fun at the people waiting!

I'll see you Sat and Sunday I am sure, so why are you busting my hump on this?
 ;D :o ::)
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: discglover on December 09, 2010, 11:26:57 PM
The ONLY THING CHANGING IS THE FACT THAT YOU CAN PLAY ON SATURDAY NOW!

I like the flexibility offered with this.  It should also reduce the traffic some for the Sunday round.
Unless Sunday's weather is much better than Saturday.

Thus far I've been to every KC Ice Bowl.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Tom on December 10, 2010, 10:10:27 AM
Where can the full color discs be bought and pre-reg be done?

Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: The Bird Father on December 10, 2010, 05:03:49 PM
Where can the full color discs be bought and pre-reg be done?



When will they come out with color changing discs....like the coors light can....when your disc gets cold it turns blue....or when your disc gets hot, her outfit turns into a bikini!!!!!   ;D
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: discglover on December 10, 2010, 11:53:39 PM
I'm not speaking for myself but another consideration is how many can afford to donate money this year.
There's alot of people out of work right now.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: hyzerponix on December 11, 2010, 05:09:57 PM
Where can the full color discs be bought and pre-reg be done?



I bought my FC Buzzz at DGW the other day, but they did not have the forms yet so there was no pre-reg.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: David E on December 13, 2010, 09:45:05 AM
I'm not speaking for myself but another consideration is how many can afford to donate money this year.
There's alot of people out of work right now.

While I completely agree, don't doubt the goodness in people's hearts (and wallets). See recent KC Biz Journal story, KC was #3 philanthropic city in 2009.
My charity (flhw.org) was a 25% increase in donations year over year. A bad cliché but ‘if you hold it, they will come’!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Rick Rothstein on December 13, 2010, 02:17:21 PM
A bad cliché but ‘if you hold it, they will come’!


Also, according to this article... http://philanthropy.com/article/Sex-Drugs-Charity-/55463/, "The warm glow that many donors get from giving to charity involves the same brain mechanisms that evoke pleasurable sensations after sex, eating good food, and using heroin or other drugs, a new study has found."

Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: BamBam on December 13, 2010, 08:43:45 PM
A bad cliché but ‘if you hold it, they will come’!


Also, according to this article... http://philanthropy.com/article/Sex-Drugs-Charity-/55463/, "The warm glow that many donors get from giving to charity involves the same brain mechanisms that evoke pleasurable sensations after sex, eating good food, and using heroin or other drugs, a new study has found."

I always wondered why I felt compelled to tip my heroin dealer.

Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: discglover on December 15, 2010, 10:41:17 AM
I think we do need to do something "different" so I'm not against any suggestions.
BUT lets not turn the course into a club championship setting.
Keep em short n fun!!!!
I have an idea for another way of raising more money if you do keep them short. And possibly add some temp shorties
Have a competition within a competition.
Offer people the opportunity to get in a Monster Metal Mayhem along with The Ice Bowl
Its a points set-up like the ace run. 3pts for an ace 1pt for metal
Your still putting out and keeping track of your regular score along with tracking your metal shots.
If you have an awesome prize for the winner I'm sure you'll get people wanting to try this.
I know I'd be in for another $25
OK I decided to do the math to see how we would fare if we charged $50 per player.
$25 was the original plus selling the masses on another $25 for all the CTP prizes if on the course.
Would save alot of time between rounds.
Then I also still think the Monster Metal Mayhem would be something neat to offer.
That would be another $25 per player that chooses to do so.
My #'s I went by:
$25x100 people that played theThe Ice Bowl But opted not to play for the CTP's $2500
$50x200 people that played for the CTP's plus the Ice Bowl $10,000
$25x100 people for metal round $2500
If I decided to opt in on everything my cost would be $75
No matter the numbers that play what. You will make more money for charity this way
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on December 15, 2010, 11:03:59 AM
I was confused, but then I realized that you were quoting yourself.....So the only person that was concerned abuot this was you..... ???

You have not included any expenses in your estimates.....so we are just asking for $25, $50, $75 dollars, and giving nothing back in return.....I highly doubt that you would then see 20 people let alone 100.  I could be wrong, but most people still want to get seomthing for their entry.

Our current entry fee of $15 will remain, and with that you get a disc and mini stash with the Ice Bowl Charity getting about 1/2 that money.

I appreciate all the thoughts going into this event.  At this time it is pretty simple.  Pay $15 to play on Saturday or Sunday.  Have fun, and bring Chili to win a prize!

For more information we should be up soon on the web.  We are working on the flyer currently.

Please do just this one thing, bring a nwe person to the Ice Bowl this year, and make the people you brought last year do that as well.  If we do that, we will then need to look at other options to change with our 25th Ice Bowl next year in 2012.  the 30th Wide Open in 2012, and the 25th Ice Bowl, man that is some history!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: dickthediscparker on December 15, 2010, 11:18:53 AM
I thought it was 25
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on December 15, 2010, 05:30:55 PM
The standard $15 entry includes a commemorative DX disc and a nested mini set. You may choose other discs as your entry disc by paying the listed
upgrade charge.......

You just always upgrade Dick, thats ok......
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: discglover on December 16, 2010, 12:22:40 AM
I added the figures to the quote for selling the idea. 
I mentioned putting the ctp's out on certain holes for those willing to pay to play for those so there's the stuff you normally pay extra for but its a set price for all ctp's. The only downfall in this is it gives a player more than one chance to win something unlike the current system.
The Ice Bowl players would still be playing for DX discs plus the trophy. And the Metal winner, second and third get gold, silver and bronze medals.
I was going to donate $ for that but I guess you don't think other people would be generous and pony up the extra bread.
Why should I not be surprised you wouldn't like it. If you read your original way you were thinking about setting it up the course, I basically agreed with you except a few other concepts I added. So thats why its really funny to me.

Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on December 16, 2010, 10:05:15 AM
I just do not agree with the fact that people will pay $75 to play this type of disc golf Steve.  I like some of the ideas, but the price points are not inline with our sport nor the notion of the event in my mind.

What do others in here think?

The whole idea of it being only $15 to get out and support disc golf and support a charity is the draw of the event in my mind.  The model that you are using to me makes more sense in a Thornfield setting, where participation for events is often funded by other organizations.  I want to keep this relatively self funded (though wouldn't turn away corporate money to help for the charitable event!) as it has in the past and continue to watch it grow.

Others?  Your thoughts?
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: twoDornottwoD on December 16, 2010, 10:34:40 AM
I like glover's idea for multiple competitions within a single round and i'm fine with using rosie in a short setting.  i just don't see ice bowl being (or needing to be) the place for that.  so many golfers are there that normally don't play competitive rounds and are kind of stumbling their way through learning that aspect.  throwing that many more options will confuse some that may want to participate in all we have to offer.  it may scare away others who then feel more in the way of the competitions.  also, with all the clothes and gloves, its hard enough to keep track of your score and mulligans.  if there is snow and you need ribbons and tape, its that much more complicated.  extra volunteers needed keep these separate and correct amongst the cluster could also be an issue. 

again, great idea, but an event that has players more seasoned to competitive golf, ace races, and similar events would be better.  nicer weather would also be helpful.  for ice bowl, stick to the side bets with your buddies, glover.  thats one of the advantages to getting to form your own group first round.  and if you take $1000 from your buddies, you can donate half to the charity since your such a high roller.  ;)
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: BamBam on December 16, 2010, 03:33:45 PM
Hi there. No deep introspective thoughts here. But I play Rosedale a bunch (many times early in the day) and constantly play with recreational players who play quite a bit. When talking to them and finding they play 3 to 4 times a week I always ask if they've considered playing tournaments. The overwhelming response is that they don't feel ready.

Now that response has nothing to do with my point. The comment which comes about 60% of the time after the response is, "But I've heard about this 'Ice Bowl' and definitely plan on making it out there".

I'm just here to tell you that I've had this conversation in all honesty about 10 times a year.

I mean, I hear a lot of squawking about the length of rounds but haven't seen attendance hurt. And obviously that attendance is driven in large part due to the recreational player.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Kevin Montgomery on December 16, 2010, 05:03:58 PM
"Party on Wayne".... "Party on Garth".....

Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: kidmills on December 16, 2010, 07:51:49 PM
lets see here
play saturday or sunday.........one round
i've seen somewhere you were talking about more then 18 holes? maybe 24 holes?
15.00 entry fee
chilli, bring some,or have some
fun,already provided
hey maybe a flyer would be nice,insted of looking all over this subject page
oh lord.......rick where are you
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Anthony Puryear on December 17, 2010, 12:09:45 AM
I don't know about the rest of the dg community, but I know I'm not able to drop $50-75 bucks on a tourney; especially one like the ice bowl that is more for fun than competition. I like the sat & sun format. I plan on playing Saturday then coming to hang out Sunday, meet new guys, eat chili And do the ctp stuff. Provided its not bone chilling cold out. But I think the pricing for the ice bowl fits the day. None of the AM guys I play with, who I will be trying to get to play would pay more than $15-20. For them its a chance to get a new disc and learn some things. And that should remain the foundation of the ice bowl IMO.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Rick Rothstein on December 17, 2010, 09:58:53 AM
A flyer has been sent to the Tournament Director, Jack Lowe, who, because of work priorities, has not had the time to sign off on it. As soon as he does (hoping today), we'll get this show going.


lets see here
play saturday or sunday.........one round
i've seen somewhere you were talking about more then 18 holes? maybe 24 holes?
15.00 entry fee
chilli, bring some,or have some
fun,already provided
hey maybe a flyer would be nice,insted of looking all over this subject page
oh lord.......rick where are you
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: David E on December 17, 2010, 10:10:47 AM
"Party on Wayne".... "Party on Garth".....

Totally
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: kidmills on December 17, 2010, 10:39:22 AM
A flyer has been sent to the Tournament Director, Jack Lowe, who, because of work priorities, has not had the time to sign off on it. As soon as he does (hoping today), we'll get this show going.


lets see here
play saturday or sunday.........one round
i've seen somewhere you were talking about more then 18 holes? maybe 24 holes?
15.00 entry fee
chilli, bring some,or have some
fun,already provided
hey maybe a flyer would be nice,insted of looking all over this subject page
oh lord.......rick where are you
thanks rick
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: discglover on December 17, 2010, 10:51:15 AM
A flyer has been sent to the Tournament Director, Jack Lowe, who, because of work priorities, has not had the time to sign off on it. As soon as he does (hoping today), we'll get this show going.


lets see here
play saturday or sunday.........one round
i've seen somewhere you were talking about more then 18 holes? maybe 24 holes?
15.00 entry fee
chilli, bring some,or have some
fun,already provided
hey maybe a flyer would be nice,insted of looking all over this subject page
oh lord.......rick where are you
When its ready to post, this stuff should be moved to the General Banter and the real Ice Bowl info into the Tournament area.

BTW If you read my words I said it doesn't matter what #'s are more viable to use for whatever you wanna charge for each thing. I went with how far I would pay. The idea was to find a way to speed up the between round process on Sunday which the idea of putting out the CTP's on the holes would still work if you only allowed 1 CTP win per player. The metal points thing was just another way to raise more money. An extra $5-$10 from whoever is in is better than not having the extra funds that could be generated.
Whatever the decision shall be I'm sure everything will be fun as usual!!!!!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Rick Rothstein on December 17, 2010, 02:24:41 PM
Registration for Ice Bowl 2011 is now officially open. For a entry form: http://www.kcfdc.org/docs/kcib11reg.pdf
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: kidmills on December 17, 2010, 06:08:15 PM
Registration for Ice Bowl 2011 is now officially open. For a entry form: http://www.kcfdc.org/docs/kcib11reg.pdf
once again thank you rick
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Anthony Puryear on December 17, 2010, 11:20:15 PM
I have a Chili question. Do you know when the judging will happen? I won't be able to make it on Sunday till around 11:45. I know in previous years, the Chili always seems to run out, so I thought I would try and bring some this year so there is more to eat, but also want a chance to be in the competition.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Rick Rothstein on December 18, 2010, 10:47:32 AM
I'll be updating registrations from time to time on our way to tracking what I hope will be 500 supporters of the KC Ice Bowl. The first to sign up are:

1. Albert Boettcher
2. Bob Ward
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on December 20, 2010, 01:56:41 PM
I have a Chili question. Do you know when the judging will happen? I won't be able to make it on Sunday till around 11:45. I know in previous years, the Chili always seems to run out, so I thought I would try and bring some this year so there is more to eat, but also want a chance to be in the competition.

I typically try to tell the judges to plan on being there by 10.  It takes a while to get the judging done, but many people do leave it in the car!  Although their chili may not be judged to be the "best", suffice it say there are many people that are thankful that there is more chili heading into the pavillion after the judging has stopped.  Any and all Chili is appreciated!

Thanks,

Jack
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Rick Rothstein on December 20, 2010, 05:18:00 PM
Recent entries pushes the total to 8:

Kent   Kelly
Tom   Verstraete
Jeremy   Oitker
Ryan   Keck
Luke   Longcor
Matt   Mayfield

Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on December 21, 2010, 10:36:20 AM
The rumor mill has been going around that people are looking to play both days on Saturday and Sunday.

SATURDAY WILL BE CAPPED AT 108 players.
LET ME REPEAT-

SATURDAY WILL BE CAPPED AT 108 PLAYERS!  

If you only want to play in 1 round on Saturday because you cannot make it out on SUnday morning, I suggest you pre-register ASAP.

This information of course is simply a rumor and speculation, but its over a month out and already happening.  Of course you can prevent all of this concerning you by just the simple pre-registering, but then you already knew that didn't you?

Ice Bowl Registrations make better holiday gifts than gift cards, because it not only shows you care about the person you signed up, it shows you care about your community and your local disc golf scene.

Why not sign up that entire car load of friends and make a day of it, better yet, make a weekend of it now! :o
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: David E on December 21, 2010, 10:52:13 AM
Jack - if your current career gets boring, you have the marketing speak down pat!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: adam witt on December 29, 2010, 09:52:59 AM
MY TWO THOUGHTS/TWO CENTS WORTH

I LIKE JOHN'S IDEA ON PAGE ONE ABOUT THE FOOD DRIVE FOR A RAFFLE TICKET. I WOULD BE WILLING TO DONATE A NICE PRIZE FROM MY STORE, NOT DISC RELATED UNFORTUNATELY! BUT STILL NICE!

SECOND, IT WOULDN'T BE THE ICE BOWL IF IT WASN'T HELD AT ROSIE. JUST A TRADITION THING!

Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Rick Rothstein on December 30, 2010, 11:10:43 AM
KC Ice Bowl Registrations as of 11 a.m. 12-30-2010

1   Jamie   Barry
2   Albert   Boetcher
3   Vincent   Como
4   Kevin   Corbin
5   Brian   Corbin
6   Jay   Cram
7   Ben   Crosby
8   Sean   Elliot
9   Josh   Engle
10   Granville   Hare
11   Chris   Holbrook
12   Steve   Hostetler
13   Chris   Hutchings
14   Robert Brandon   Jones
15   Ryan   Keck
16   Kent   Kelly
17   Jim    Kreeger
18   Luke   Longcor
19   Josh   Mason
20   Caleb   Mason
21   Marc   Mason
22   Matt   Mayfield
23   Jeremy   Oitker
24   Anthony    Puryear
25   Justin   Rodgers
26   Tom   Verstraete
27   Bob    Ward
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jamidanger on December 30, 2010, 01:16:27 PM
i gotta be the first to say that the eskimo chick with the polar bears this year is sweet, best ice bowl logo of all time.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on January 04, 2011, 09:59:42 AM
I am going to start to compile lists of Ice Bowl CTP prizes, we accept anything that you can think of (except of course used items.....unless they are really cool....ask before brining please!)

We like gift certificates to food places, items that people love, tv's, satellite radios, chairs....(Still mad at Kevin on that one!) discs, Sports garb, custom made stuff, soaps, candles, woodworking, etc.....There is really not much that you could bring that someone would not want.

The more that we have, the more that we can give to the Charity, and back to the community of disc golfers.  I want to ask that you give me the contact information from the donator so that when we become a 501c3, I can send them the proper tax documentation for them to use on the 2012 taxes.

Help us make this great.

Thanks for all that you do to help!!

Jack
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on January 04, 2011, 12:42:34 PM
Some scheduling items:

Saturday January 29th Rosedale Park Water Bowl (Its not frozen yet)

8:45-9:30-Registration Round 1
9:45-Tee off (shotgun start)

12:45-1:30-Registration Round 2
1:45-Tee off (shotgun start)

No Frills-No mulligans, just score for the Ice Bowl

Sunday January 30th The XXIV Ice Bowl @ Rosedale Park
8:00-Registration Opens-(You can start earlier, but "official registration" begins @ 8
Play 1 round either uptop or down under-Turn in score card-
--You can buy Mulligans at registration--(only good during round 1-$3/ea or 2=$5)
10:00-Ask that all people be playing on the course by this time frame
10:30-11:00-Chili Judging
11:30-2:00-CTP/Mini events ($2/ticket, 3=$5, 7=$10, or 15=$20)
~2:30-Start final 9 round with your group
3:30-complete the Ice Bowl
4:00-Thanks/awards, mingle!
5:00-clean up and drive home


Based on this schedule we are looking for help in the following time slots:
Saturday-Where you can, this will be ver simple in helping to add scores, and get people on cards, nothing real special about Saturday.

Sunday-
7:00-9:00-registration set up merchandise, set up signage and pavillion-(~8 people would make this smooth)
9:00-11:00 -continue registration, start to set up Mini course, signage, Chili check in, get CTP events ready, check in CTP's-(~6 people would be great here, could use more)
11:00-1:00-CTP running mini, selling more CTP tickets, collect scorecards (~6 people here)
1:00-3:00-CTP's, scorecards, start to coordinate last 9 holes, get scorecards sorted and delivered (~8 people here)
3:00-5:00-scorecards, prize distribution, and clean up (~6 people here)

Which leads me to the question, which 2 hour time slot would you like to donate your time to help out?  Based on this it looks like we need ~30 people to step up and help.  That is less than 10% of the people that played last year.  If you can help and would like to be listed as a person that helps, then please PM me.  I have a few of you already lined up, but now that I am starting to put together a schedule, you may know of a certain time that allows you to help.

It is fast approaching folks!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on January 04, 2011, 04:00:25 PM
We are only looking for volunteers during the 2hour time slots.  You can of course compete on Saturday, then be able to help a little in the morning, and then play in the afternoon for a fun filled Ice Bowl Weekend!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Rick Rothstein on January 06, 2011, 10:05:39 AM
49 Entrants of 1-6-2011

Albert  Boettcher
Bob    Ward
Kent   Kelly
Tom   Verstraete
Jeremy   Oitker
Ryan   Keck
Luke   Longcor
Matt   Mayfield
Ben   Crosby
Sean   Elliot
Granville   Hare
Anthony    Puryear
Josh   Engle
Chris   Hutchings
Jim    Kreeger
Steve   Hostetler
Josh   Mason
Caleb   Mason
Marc   Mason
Kevin   Corbin
Brian   Corbin
Chris   Holbrook
Robert Brandon   Jones
Jay   Cram
Vincent   Como
Justin   Rodgers
Jamie   Barry
Kevin   Montgomery
Joshua   Oothoudt
Van    Spratford
Brad   Kiel
Brian    Taylor
Matt   Eklund
Paul    Eklund
Adam   Witt
Boyd   Chilkers
Brian   Taylor
Paul   Salerno
Connor   Mitts
Alexander    Daney
Tyler   Holcom
Marcus   Paccapaniccia
Mark   Tabor
Jim   Ramey
Leevarn   Sarvis
Shean   Stanton
Keith   Werner
Dustin   Smith
Eric   Garberg
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: WrongfulLeaf on January 06, 2011, 12:44:49 PM
Do you need any volunteers on Saturday? I plan on playing Sunday but am free on Sat.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on January 06, 2011, 01:34:26 PM
I can always use an extra set of hands on Saturday for sure.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Rick Rothstein on January 09, 2011, 11:10:11 AM
56 and counting:

Albert   Boetcher
Bob    Ward
Kent   Kelly
Tom   Verstraete
Jeremy   Oitker
Ryan   Keck
Luke   Longcor
Matt   Mayfield
Ben   Crosby
Sean   Elliot
Granville   Hare
Anthony    Puryear
Josh   Engle
Chris   Hutchings
Jim    Kreeger
Steve   Hostetler
Josh   Mason
Caleb   Mason
Marc   Mason
Kevin   Corbin
Brian   Corbin
Chris   Holbrook
Robert Brandon   Jones
Jay   Cram
Vincent   Como
Justin   Rodgers
Jamie   Barry
Kevin   Montgomery
Joshua   Oothoudt
Van    Spratford
Brad   Kiel
Brian    Taylor
Matt   Eklund
Paul    Eklund
Adam   Witt
Boyd   Chilkers
Brian   Taylor
Paul   Salerno
Connor   Mitts
Alexander    Daney
Tyler   Holcom
Marcus   Paccapaniccia
Mark   Tabor
Jim   Ramey
Leevarn   Sarvis
Shean   Stanton
Keith   Werner
Dustin   Smith
Eric   Garberg
Steve   Glover
Drew   Neitzel
Craig   Walker
Tom    Butler
Brian   Woodson
Sean   Snider
Jeremy   Wade
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: CD on January 15, 2011, 07:58:22 PM
I have an (Adult Medium) black t-shirt with AD/HD logo (in the flavor of AC/DC) to toss in the prize pool  :)  and I'll bring some snack cakes for dessert  ;D
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: discglover on January 16, 2011, 10:51:10 AM
I am donating a bag that can be used to tote discs, water and other essentials for golf although that was not its intended purpose.
I stuffed it with several other bags of various sizes.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Timko on January 16, 2011, 12:39:19 PM
I'll be donating the bag I won at this year's ace race as well as some of the discs I won.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: twoDornottwoD on January 16, 2011, 02:27:47 PM
I'll be donating the bag I won at this year's ace race as well as some of the discs I won.

just had to remind us huh  :'(
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Rick Rothstein on January 17, 2011, 05:16:18 PM
78 and counting: 1-21-2011

Albert   Boetcher
Bob    Ward
Kent   Kelly
Tom   Verstraete
Jeremy   Oitker
Ryan   Keck
Luke   Longcor
Matt   Mayfield
Ben   Crosby
Sean   Elliot
Granville   Hare
Anthony    Puryear
Josh   Engle
Chris   Hutchings
Jim    Kreeger
Steve   Hostetler
Josh   Mason
Caleb   Mason
Marc   Mason
Kevin   Corbin
Brian   Corbin
Chris   Holbrook
Robert Brandon   Jones
Jay   Cram
Vincent   Como
Justin   Rodgers
Jamie   Barry
Kevin   Montgomery
Joshua   Oothoudt
Van    Spratford
Brad   Kiel
Brian    Taylor
Matt   Eklund
Paul    Eklund
Adam   Witt
Boyd   Chilkers
Brian   Taylor
Paul   Salerno
Connor   Mitts
Alexander    Daney
Tyler   Holcom
Marcus   Paccapaniccia
Mark   Tabor
Jim   Ramey
Leevarn   Sarvis
Shean   Stanton
Keith   Werner
Dustin   Smith
Eric   Garberg
Steve   Glover
Drew   Neitzel
Craig   Walker
Tom    Butler
Brian   Woodson
Sean   Snider
Jeremy   Wade
Earl   Johnson Sr
Dan   Hillaker
Doogin   Brown
Michael   Taylor
David   Ridge-Yates
Ian   Nalivaiko
Vlad   Wunschl
Mark   Stiles
Peter   Bures
Chad   Burns
James   McLaughlin
David   Validviez
Ben    Hansen
Callom   Jones
Becky   Stebbins
Mike    Keizer
John   Chapman
Jeff   Kelley
Shane   Rosemann
Heather    Lewis
Terri   Lang
Demian   Vela
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on January 21, 2011, 11:13:06 AM
Looking for the following:

More CTP prizes-Will have a basket though, but would like more stuff to give away!

Generators-Would like to have 4 this year, but I am looking at renting a BIG old generator that may alleviate any needs from our volunteers to bring them!

Chili Cooks-Who wants to win the title as best Chili in Disc Golf, I believe that Guthrie with his Cumin laced chili won last year, I take offence to that, and plan on bringing in better chili this year, but I already know that I make a mean chili, I mean I was a winner, so  :P , the rest of you can chase us top chili cooks, good luck!--seriously we always need more people to help with this, and its great to try all the different varieties of Chili!

Helpers-I have a good list, and I will plan on reaching out to most of you over this weekend to secure your committment to help.  Please PM me if you haven't done so already!  Can you more help on Sunday than Saturday, but will never turn down any help as we can always use more!

More people!  Bring a new person this year, you know it is onw of the most fun days to say you are a disc golfer, show it off to all your friends, send a text message to everyone in your phone, blast on face book that you are not a wimp or a whiner, and you will attend.

Pre-register-makes everything much easier for you and all helping.

Anything else that you can think of, please let us know!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: five2loves42 on January 21, 2011, 05:44:22 PM
Ok, since there will be snow (barring some kind of miraculous warm up, which would bring mud, so I am good with the snow).

Are we going to be able to use ribbons on our discs?

Not wimping or whining, just trying to save some plastic.

Thanks,

tv
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Rick Rothstein on January 22, 2011, 12:52:22 PM
90 and counting: 1-22-2011

Albert   Boetcher
Bob    Ward
Kent   Kelly
Tom   Verstraete
Jeremy   Oitker
Ryan   Keck
Luke   Longcor
Matt   Mayfield
Ben   Crosby
Sean   Elliot
Granville   Hare
Anthony    Puryear
Josh   Engle
Chris   Hutchings
Jim    Kreeger
Steve   Hostetler
Josh   Mason
Caleb   Mason
Marc   Mason
Kevin   Corbin
Brian   Corbin
Chris   Holbrook
Robert Brandon   Jones
Jay   Cram
Vincent   Como
Justin   Rodgers
Jamie   Barry
Kevin   Montgomery
Joshua   Oothoudt
Van    Spratford
Brad   Kiel
Brian    Taylor
Matt   Eklund
Paul    Eklund
Adam   Witt
Boyd   Chilkers
Brian   Taylor
Paul   Salerno
Connor   Mitts
Alexander    Daney
Tyler   Holcom
Marcus   Paccapaniccia
Mark   Tabor
Jim   Ramey
Leevarn   Sarvis
Shean   Stanton
Keith   Werner
Dustin   Smith
Eric   Garberg
Steve   Glover
Drew   Neitzel
Craig   Walker
Tom    Butler
Brian   Woodson
Sean   Snider
Jeremy   Wade
Earl   Johnson Sr
Dan   Hillaker
Doogin   Brown
Michael   Taylor
David   Ridge-Yates
Ian   Nalivaiko
Vlad   Wunschl
Mark   Stiles
Peter   Bures
Chad   Burns
James   McLaughlin
David   Validviez
Ben    Hansen
Callom   Jones
Becky   Stebbins
Mike    Keizer
John   Chapman
Jeff   Kelley
Shane   Rosemann
Heather    Lewis
Terri   Lang
Demian   Vela
Bob   Field
Travis   Roth
Jesse   Hill
Sara   Hill
Neil    Roth
Riley   Long
Gary   Long
Ellis   Ruffin
Lee   Killian
Kristian   Harmon
Chase   Cooper
Tony Troxel
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Anthony Puryear on January 24, 2011, 02:32:36 PM
Question; if I am playing both rounds on sat. Whichever is my best score is used to place me in the final round on Sunday afternoon. Is that correct? I don't have to play Sunday morning in order to play in the afternoon? If this is correct, What time do I need to be there on Sunday to be signed up for the second round?
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: dickthediscparker on January 24, 2011, 02:39:53 PM
Yes.   no later than 12:30-1pm. 
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Amando on January 24, 2011, 07:53:15 PM
Is there electricity available at the pavilion?
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: kchippie on January 24, 2011, 09:07:40 PM
yes there is power, might want to bring an extension cord
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: hyzerponix on January 24, 2011, 09:25:02 PM
From what I hear, there will be several generators out there to power all the Crockpots.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: discglover on January 24, 2011, 11:43:32 PM
OR bring a camping stove like I do.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: CD on January 25, 2011, 07:26:25 AM
Count me in? For Saturday? I need to bring you my m0ne¥ today or tomorrow. Thanks!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on January 25, 2011, 09:13:19 AM
Is there electricity available at the pavilion?

YES-But this year, we are renting a BIG GENERATOR sponsored by Dean power.  It will be big enough to handle all of our electrical needs, and of course the campstoves are a guaranteed method that works as well.

Please share this with everyone, as I know that many of us are sick and tired of cold chili.  In the mentioning of the clubs need for a Generator, our new President pointed out that it may be better served to rent a BIG ONE that can handle 30+ crockpots.   DING DING DING, I was like, why didnt I think of that?  So I nmade a few calls and we will be renting a big ole generator for the afternoon to provide electricity for the crockpots.  I only ask that your bring some power strips, as I think that I only have like 4-5, so we will need to get some of those babys out there.

I will get crackers, cheese, and sourcream, we will have Soda, I believe that Beer will be available as well, and of course plenty of people should bring their favorite Ice Bowl snack to help share.

Question; if I am playing  on sat. my best score is used to place me in the final round on Sunday afternoon.--YES-- I don't have to play Sunday morning in order to play in the afternoon? --YES--What time do I need to be there on Sunday to be signed up for the second round?
If you play Saturday in order to be considered for the 2nd round, you will need to let us know on Saturday that you intend to play on Sunday so we keep the information (I will ask you as well this information), I ask that you be at the Shelter no later that 12:30 please!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: sirbronco on January 25, 2011, 09:31:50 AM
Ice Bowl is 2 Days this year.

Day 1-Saturday January 29th
2 Rounds Rosedale UpTop
Round one Tee off 9:45 am
Round two Tee off 2:15 pm

Saturday will be a No Frills event.  Standard Entry fee will apply, will have small assortment of discs and minis (players pack) available.  Will not have clothing, will not provide food.

Winner of both rounds for the day will be crowned in King and Queen division (that would be Male and Female divisions, I konw some you boys act like a Queen, but suffice it to say, this is the line that I'm putting out there!).

Please bring CTP prizes to Rosedale on Saturday as well if you cannot make it Sunday.

Sunday is the Ice Bowl Event!

Bring your chili, your CTP's, your friends, your cider, your rumballs.

This year I do not plan on charging for each day, but you will not be able to exchange items that you pick out on Saturday on Sunday (tooo many mistakes could and would happen).  Your best score on Saturday can be your score for Sunday, HOWEVER if you play or indicate that you are going to play a morning round on Sunday, you will need to honor that score.  You will not pick the best out of the 3.

Now I am not going to be a marshal and watch you if you go play a round with your friends on Sunday, but I do ask that you let us know so that we can remove you from the possible scoring to ease complications that could arise.  It is afterall the Ice Bowl, and the last thing I want is to make someone break the rules and Whine because their score wasn't correct.....I mean some people may hold that in for like 10 months and feel really bad about their score and stuff, and I dont want that to happen!

Hopefully next week we shuold have some registration forms, and Sponsorship forms, and possibly a pay-pal link to pre-register.

Looking forward to this.

Thanks,

Jack

I had to reread most of this thread to find this...so, I just wanted to bring this back to the forefront!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Rick Rothstein on January 25, 2011, 01:14:29 PM
We're now at 99 pre-registrants. About 45 people are playing Saturday. You can sign up at Disc Golf World through Friday. You can also sign up at Rosedale on Saturday (there is a 108-person cap for playing that day) and of course, on Sunday, where there is not cap.

Please remember that even if you're not playing, you can still support the cause. A $15 donation nets you a disc and mini set. If you don't want the stuff, then a $10 donation will keep you off the wimp list. The wimp list is for those who know about Ice Bowl, but neither play nor support the cause. Don't be a wimp.

1   Jamie   Barry
2   Angie   Biondo
3   Albert   Boettcher
4   Doogin   Brown
5   Peter   Bures
6   Chad   Burns
7   Tom    Butler
8   John   Chapman
9   Boyd   Chilkers
10   Vincent   Como
11   Chase   Cooper
12   Brian   Corbin
13   Kevin   Corbin
14   Jay   Cram
15   Ben   Crosby
16   Brad   Damico
17   Alexander    Daney
18   Matt   Eklund
19   Paul    Eklund
20   Sean   Elliot
21   Josh   Engle
22   Bob   Field
23   Eric   Garberg
24   Steve   Glover
25   Ben    Hansen
26   Granville   Hare
27   Kristian   Harmon
28   Steven   Harris
29   Edwin   Hart
30   Jesse   Hill
31   Sara   Hill
32   Dan   Hillaker
33   Chris   Holbrook
34   Tyler   Holcom
35   Steve   Hostetler
36   Chris   Hutchings
37   Earl   Johnson Sr
38   Callom   Jones
39   Robert Brandon   Jones
40   Ryan   Keck
41   Ted   Keith
42   Mike    Keizer
43   Jeff   Kelley
44   Kent   Kelly
45   Brad   Kiel
46   Lee   Killian
47   Jim    Kreeger
48   Terri   Lang
49   Heather    Lewis
50   Gary   Long
51   Riley   Long
52   Luke   Longcor
53   Russel   Madsen
54   Caleb   Mason
55   Josh   Mason
56   Marc   Mason
57   Matt   Mayfield
58   James   McLaughlin
59   Connor   Mitts
60   Kevin   Montgomery
61   Ian   Nalivaiko
62   Bill    Neenan
63   Drew   Neitzel
64   Jeremy   Oitker
65   Ryan   Oldham
66   Joshua   Oothoudt
67   Marcus   Paccapaniccia
68   Anthony    Puryear
69   Jim   Ramey
70   David   Ridge-Yates
71   Justin   Rodgers
72   Shane   Rosemann
73   Neil    Roth
74   Travis   Roth
75   Rick   Rothstein
76   Ellis   Ruffin
77   Paul   Salerno
78   Leevarn   Sarvis
79   Matt   Shively
80   Dustin   Smith
81   Sean   Snider
82   Van    Spratford
83   Shean   Stanton
84   Becky   Stebbins
85   Mark   Stiles
86   Mark   Tabor
87   Brian    Taylor
88   Michael   Taylor
89   Tony   Troxel
90   David   Validviez
91   Demian   Vela
92   Tom   Verstraete
93   Jeremy   Wade
94   Craig   Walker
95   Bob    Ward
96   Keith   Werner
97   Adam   Witt
98   Brian   Woodson
99   Vlad   Wunschl
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Timko on January 25, 2011, 01:40:41 PM
Looks like I'll have to sign up on Sunday, because I can't make it down to DGW this week and can't make it on Saturday :(.  I will be there to support the cause, and (by the looks of it) freeze.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: sirbronco on January 25, 2011, 01:44:06 PM
Saturday - 46/23 - Sunny
Sunday - 36/20 - Sunny

Can we say Mud Bowl?

Its gonna be fun!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Timko on January 25, 2011, 02:02:46 PM
That's better than it was looking on Sunday.  It was a high of 16 and a low of 5.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: hyzerponix on January 25, 2011, 02:26:13 PM
It's looking like Saturday only for me. Jennifer's running in the Subtropolis 10K on Sunday and the kids and I are gonna be there to cheer her on. 8)
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on January 25, 2011, 02:42:25 PM
You can do that in the AM,. then come out in the PM from your round Sat mike, and do the best of all worlds!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: hyzerponix on January 25, 2011, 03:06:58 PM
Probably working afternoon, dude. I'll be giving up Saturday pay as it is, so get off my back! ;D
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on January 25, 2011, 03:13:43 PM
ok, ok, actually you can play sat AM and prolly still make it to work in time.  I dont' want you to give up weekend pay if you don't have to and we should be done in time for you to make it in saturday if you just play the morning round.  You do not need to do both!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: hyzerponix on January 25, 2011, 05:35:11 PM
Thanks Jack. I had already ran the plan by my wife and my boss and am glad to see that its alright with you as well. :D

Drew, Dick, what do you guys think? Rick? Chappy?
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on January 26, 2011, 09:50:14 AM
The followign people have shown an interest in helping on the Ice Bowl.

I could always use more help if you can, at this point, though it will be best to call me as I will not be in front of a computer after today, as I am offsite at a career event tomorrow and then Friday I have to go and get supplies all day, and DUH I have to make Chili (the winner of course, think that I am going to go beanless this year), so I have to slave over the stove as well as get all the other loose ends taken care of.

The more merrier I say, but please come out to support the good cause!

Rhonda Crosby      Sun
Van Spratford   Sat   Sun
Mark Stiles   Sat   Sun
Michael (Wrongful Leaf   Sat   
Lee Killilan      
Hans Weding      Sun (Early)
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on January 26, 2011, 03:02:44 PM
The Port-O-Potties are to be serviced today for the weekend.  They are aware of the hevy traffic planned.

Boulevard has agreed to sponsor the event again!  We will start the tap~ 11 (After the chili judging is going on)

I plan on winning the chili contest again, but I am only bringing about 8 gallons, so please bring yours so some other people can eat inferior chili, since mine will surely be gone in about 20 minutes.....(Chili contest is from 10:30-11:00.

Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: eeastwood on January 26, 2011, 03:36:25 PM
You can thank Jeremy Danner, my brother-in-law and fellow disc golfer, for the Boulevard hookup. 
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on January 26, 2011, 04:56:19 PM
Ahem......now don't be giving out the secrets like that, but yes Jeremy is the Hook Up on this!

He did a GREAT job for this event!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Rick Rothstein on January 26, 2011, 05:02:46 PM
Last year we preregistered 175 players. We're at 110 this year.  You can preregister at DGW until 5 pm on Friday, January 28. If you want to pay with a bank card, you can register by calling 816.471.3472 and your discs/threads will be delivered at the Ice Bowl.

If you're not on this list, why not? We now know there will be beer! And we won't need no stinkin' ice to keep it tasty.

1   Jamie   Barry
2   Angie   Biondo
3   Albert   Boetcher
4   Jen    Brockman
5   Doogin   Brown
6   Fawn   Brown
7   Peter   Bures
8   Chad   Burns
9   Tom    Butler
10   John   Chapman
11   Boyd   Childers
12   Joshua   Collins
13   Vincent   Como
14   Chase   Cooper
15   Brian   Corbin
16   Kevin   Corbin
17   Adam   Cossette
18   Jay   Cram
19   Ben   Crosby
20   Brad   Damico
21   Alexander    Daney
22   Jeff    Dyer
23   Eric   Eastwood
24   Matt   Eklund
25   Paul    Eklund
26   Sean   Elliot
27   Josh   Engle
28   Bob   Field
29   BJ    Font
30   Eric   Garberg
31   Steve   Glover
32   Ben    Hansen
33   Granville   Hare
34   Kristian   Harmon
35   Steven   Harris
36   Edwin   Hart
37   Jesse   Hill
38   Sara   Hill
39   Dan   Hillaker
40   Chris   Holbrook
41   Tyler   Holcom
42   Steve   Hostetler
43   Chris   Hutchings
44   Earl   Johnson Sr
45   Callom   Jones
46   Robert Brandon   Jones
47   Ryan   Keck
48   Ted   Keith
49   Mike    Keizer
50   Jeff   Kelley
51   Kent   Kelly
52   Brad   Kiel
53   Lee   Killian
54   Jim    Kreeger
55   Terri   Lang
56   Heather    Lewis
57   Gary   Long
58   Riley   Long
59   Luke   Longcor
60   Russel   Madsen
61   Caleb   Mason
62   Josh   Mason
63   Marc   Mason
64   Matt   Mayfield
65   James   McLaughlin
66   Connor   Mitts
67   Kevin   Montgomery
68   Ian   Nalivaiko
69   Bill    Neenan
70   Drew   Neitzel
71   Jeremy   Oitker
72   Ryan   Oldham
73   Joshua   Oothoudt
74   Marcus   Paccapaniccia
75   Daniel   Pearson
76   Anthony    Puryear
77   Jim   Ramey
78   Tim   Richardson
79   David   Ridge-Yates
80   Justin   Rodgers
81   Shane   Rosemann
82   Neil    Roth
83   Travis   Roth
84   Rick   Rothstein
85   Ellis   Ruffin
86   Paul   Salerno
87   Leevarn   Sarvis
88   Matt   Shively
89   Dennis   Smith
90   Dustin   Smith
91   Joel   Smith
92   Sean   Snider
93   Van    Spratford
94   Shean   Stanton
95   Becky   Stebbins
96   Mark   Stiles
97   Mark   Tabor
98   Brian    Taylor
99   Michael   Taylor
100   Tony   Troxel
101   David   Validviez
102   Demian   Vela
103   Tom   Verstraete
104   Jeremy   Wade
105   Craig   Walker
106   Bob    Ward
107   Keith   Werner
108   Adam   Witt
109   Brian   Woodson
110   Vlad   Wunschl
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: CJW on January 26, 2011, 08:14:10 PM

 
I plan on winning the chili contest again, but I am only bringing about 8 gallons, so please bring yours so some other people can eat inferior chili, since mine will surely be gone in about 20 minutes.....(Chili contest is from 10:30-11:00.

Looking forward to it.

Jack, just because you bought the Wolf brand chilli  instead of the Wal-mart great value brand chilli dosen't mean people will eat gallons of it in minutes.  ;D  your going down, thai style  :o
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on January 27, 2011, 12:10:28 PM
Come see chili kitchen in action boys....it starts tonight.......I've never tried wolf meat in my chili....I did ostrich....deer....buffalo.....duck......bison.....I think I did 5 meat chili last year....this year I think its beanless chili.....

Of course it will have packer cheese to chomp tho close by......
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jamidanger on January 27, 2011, 12:17:25 PM
jack, also now being legally farmed for meat in the U.S. are african lion, just a little leo sidebar for ya. demand is so great the entire 1500 lbs sold out in 2 days<arizona>
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Rick Rothstein on January 27, 2011, 06:23:03 PM
Here are today's 14 pre-registrants. We're at 124 and counting.

Steve   Thimmesch
Lance   Williams
Mike   Audley
Rob   Hack
Leo   DaPrato
Tracy   Walker
Chris   Palmer
Chadwick   Cope
Kenny   Moon
Ben   Taylor
Josh   Harvey
Mike   Gardner
Max   Hilgers
Keith   Galven
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on January 28, 2011, 11:03:13 AM
My eyes are burning from the chili, and I am finding it hard to breathe, but I am sure that some of you will find it not to your spicy level.

I on the otherhand shall work hard to engage a more desirable taste blend that should compliment the most tailored taste.

If you have any questions, please call my mobile.

THanks,

Jack
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Dan Weinert on January 28, 2011, 03:05:12 PM
Divisions on Saturday??

I am repping the G-Master crew now!

Let's get it on!!!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Brad Lenheim on January 28, 2011, 03:27:26 PM
Im playing my two rounds on Saturday who else is playing saturday looking for a card to play on!!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: hyzerponix on January 28, 2011, 03:50:21 PM
My eyes are burning from the chili, and I am finding it hard to breathe.

Folks, he's not kidding. That kitchen is not a safe place at the moment.

I remember now what that burning sensation in my lungs reminded me of. It was the time I foolishly poured ammonia into a bucket that had contained bleach.
 :o
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Dan Weinert on January 28, 2011, 04:19:28 PM
Im playing my two rounds on Saturday who else is playing saturday looking for a card to play on!!

I'll be there at 8:00 or so to get warmed up sir...816-812-6265
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Anthony Puryear on January 28, 2011, 04:49:57 PM
The way I understand it, is Saturday we will be placed on cards by the TD. Unlike Sunday morning when you just show up and play with whoever. So there is no guarantee on Saturday who you will be playing with on your card. Its supposed to be more of a real tournament kind of feel. Just fyi.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Rick Rothstein on January 28, 2011, 05:40:01 PM
Jack was picking up stuff today and indicated that people could form their own groups, but no more than 6 per card. It will be more structured in that everyone will start at the same time.



The way I understand it, is Saturday we will be placed on cards by the TD. Unlike Sunday morning when you just show up and play with whoever. So there is no guarantee on Saturday who you will be playing with on your card. Its supposed to be more of a real tournament kind of feel. Just fyi.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Rick Rothstein on January 28, 2011, 05:45:48 PM
In alphabetical order are the 152 preregistrants for the 24th Annual Kansas City Ice Bowl. 63 have indicated they will be playing Saturday.

Todd   Andrews
Mike   Audley
Jamie   Barry
Angie   Biondo
Albert   Boetcher
Jen    Brockman
Doogin   Brown
Fawn   Brown
Jerry    Brown Jr
Peter   Bures
Chad   Burns
Tom    Butler
John   Chapman
Boyd   Chilkers
Kaitlan   Clayton
Steve   Clayton
Joshua   Collins
Vincent   Como
Chase   Cooper
Mark   Cooper
Chadwick   Cope
Brian   Corbin
Kevin   Corbin
Adam   Cossette
Jay   Cram
Ben   Crosby
Rhonda   Crosby
Travis   Daetwiler
Brad   Damico
Alexander    Daney
Leo   DaPrato
Mike   Dresser
Steve   Dresser
Jeff    Dyer
Eric   Eastwood
Matt   Eklund
Paul    Eklund
Sean   Elliot
Josh   Engle
Bob   Field
BJ    Font
Keith   Galven
Clay   Gammil
Eric   Garberg
Ben   Gardner
Mike   Gardner
Steve   Glover
Ed   Gonzales
Rob   Hack
Ben    Hansen
Granville   Hare
Kristian   Harmon
Steven   Harris
Edwin   Hart
Josh   Harvey
Kathy    Henderson
Tom   Henderson
Max   Hilgers
Jesse   Hill
Sara   Hill
Dan   Hillaker
Chris   Holbrook
Tyler   Holcom
Steve   Hostetler
Brad    Hunter
Chris   Hutchings
Amanda   Jackson
Matt   Jarvis
Earl   Johnson Sr
Callom   Jones
Robert Brandon   Jones
Ryan   Keck
Ted   Keith
Mike    Keizer
Jeff   Kelley
Kent   Kelly
Brad   Kiel
Lee   Killian
Steve   Kling
Brian   Koch
Jim    Kreeger
Terri   Lang
Brad   Lenheim
Heather    Lewis
Gary   Long
Riley   Long
Luke   Longcor
Russel   Madsen
Caleb   Mason
Josh   Mason
Marc   Mason
Matt   Mayfield
Jon   McAnaw
James   McLaughlin
Mark   Mills
Connor   Mitts
Kevin   Montgomery
Kenny   Moon
Ian   Nalivaiko
Bill    Neenan
Drew   Neitzel
Jeremy   Oitker
Ryan   Oldham
Joshua   Oothoudt
Marcus   Paccapaniccia
Chris   Palmer
Daniel   Pearson
Anthony    Puryear
Jim   Ramey
Tim   Richardson
David   Ridge-Yates
Justin   Rodgers
Jason   Rollins
Shane   Rosemann
Neil    Roth
Travis   Roth
Rick   Rothstein
Ellis   Ruffin
Paul   Salerno
Leevarn   Sarvis
Matt   Shively
Dennis   Smith
Dustin   Smith
Joel   Smith
Sean   Snider
Van    Spratford
Shean   Stanton
Becky   Stebbins
Mark   Stiles
Mark   Tabor
Ben   Taylor
Brian    Taylor
Michael   Taylor
Steve   Thimmesch
Tony   Todd
Tony   Troxel
David   Validviez
Demian   Vela
Tom   Verstraete
Jeremy   Wade
Bob   Walker
Caleb   Walker
Craig   Walker
Tracy   Walker
Bob    Ward
Jeff   Webb
Keith   Werner
Lance   Williams
Nick   Winkelbauer
Adam   Witt
Brian   Woodson
Vlad   Wunschl
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: discglover on January 29, 2011, 12:32:30 AM
I'm playing in the early round tomorrow also.
See ya there.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: tallguy007kc on January 29, 2011, 07:51:36 AM
I'm getting ready to head out there now!  8)
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: bensdadfred on January 29, 2011, 08:52:07 AM
Have fun all! See you tomorrow  ;D
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on January 29, 2011, 02:34:26 PM
Round 1 leader is Dick Parker with a 48.  Round 2 started at 1:55 with 37 new players and a full field

There were 147 people playing 200 rounds of golf today.

Channel 5 was out this afternoon, 41 will be out Sunday morning at 7:30.

The star will be out tomorrow as well.  Here is schedule for tomorrow:

7-7:30-setup banners, generator, shelter area.
8-10:30-registration and check in @ shelter
10:30-11-Chili judges-winner gets bragging rights & $100 gift card to DiscGolf world
11-1:30-CTP, mini contest
1-2:15-late checkins for Round 2 (if you played Saturday you still need to check in for Rd2)
2:30-Round 2 tee off
4:45 Awards

Of course chili boulevard beer and good times and good karma are with you all day
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Disciple on January 29, 2011, 05:19:46 PM
We made the Channel 5 news at 5:10pm Saturday. Good action footage of putting and driving, and Jack interview about The Bishop Sullivan Center
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: discglover on January 29, 2011, 05:58:04 PM
A photographer from the Northeast Kansas local  neighborhood section of the paper took some pics, got our names and where we were from.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Anthony Puryear on January 30, 2011, 08:41:23 PM
Jack and the rest of those involved,
Just wanted to say Thanks for putting on the ice bowl this year. This was my 3rd year in a row and I think that despite having 10 on a hole for the 2nd round, it was the most well organized ice bowl I have been a part of. I loved the Saturday option and I think that really helped things go smoother today. I had a blast, won some stuff, met some cool guys and had an awesome time. Thanks for doing all You did.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: discglover on January 30, 2011, 09:00:39 PM
I must admit. It did not slow us down much.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: dan howard on January 30, 2011, 09:53:15 PM
Second that Anthony, today was a great day to be a disc golfer!  Thanks to all who helped, a lot of great volunteers made it happen and Jack you run a great tournament.   In the future I think there oughta be an award to he/she who contributed most to the FUN aspect of the day, I have several I'd like to nominate.  Thanks to those who were on my card yesterday and this afternoon and to all who participated!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: sirbronco on January 30, 2011, 09:55:19 PM
http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/weather/winter/if-you-can't-beat-the-cold,-join-it!-the-ice-bowl-returns-to-kc-for-its-24th-year

Dont think this link is working correctly...maybe someone with a little more technical knowledge can make it.  For now, just copy and paste in your browser.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: WrongfulLeaf on January 30, 2011, 10:18:13 PM
I also had an amazing time considering it was my first one and didn't know what to expect. It may have been bitter cold (not whining just pointing out the facts) but I could think of nothing better to do than throw some plastic and help out a charity. Thanks again for all who put in the extra work to keep this thing running smooth, and a very special thanks for whoever found my lights on in my Ford Festiva :)
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Ash on January 30, 2011, 10:36:11 PM
http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/weather/winter/if-you-can%27t-beat-the-cold%2C-join-it!-the-ice-bowl-returns-to-kc-for-its-24th-year (http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/weather/winter/if-you-can%27t-beat-the-cold%2C-join-it!-the-ice-bowl-returns-to-kc-for-its-24th-year)

Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: mikedopen on January 31, 2011, 06:33:40 AM
So whose name is on the trophy this year? ::)
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Kevin Montgomery on January 31, 2011, 08:32:21 AM
So whose name is on the trophy this year? ::)

Leo!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: john theiss on January 31, 2011, 09:24:12 AM
That was a fantastic ICE BOWL and it seems that the two day event was a big success.  Thanks to everyone that volunteered. 
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on January 31, 2011, 10:30:40 AM
First and foremost, thank you to all of you who stepped up and participated in the Ice Bowl.  I will say this is about the best of the information I have at this point as I went to the Flea Market to have a burger and play free poker last night, then went home and crashed!

With that being said the following information is accurate:

Leo D. won the Ice Bowl in a playoff to be crowned our champion!

Nick Davis won the Chili contest after taking runner up the last 2 years (Nick's was the Chili that had the 3-burner set up and came in a bucket that made it look toxic......I call Shenanigan's!  ;D )-Won a $100 gift certificate to Disc Golf World

We had over 300 people play disc golf I am pretty sure, and I believe that the final 9 holes saw us with over 150 people playing on one course at one time.  THat is quite the feat!

I do want to take up some of your reading time by acknowledging some of the people that really helped to make this event work for us:

Rick Rothstein-Founder of the Ice Bowl, and helper of the event, and Chili Contest Sponsor-
Drew Neitzel-Prework preparations, Generator pick up delivery, set up take down
Brad Berve & James McLaughlin-Basket mover and shaker Down Under
Steven Harris-Basket Mover and shaker UpTop
Mark Morales-Got the Ice (Bread and called soem Chili judges)
Van Spratford-Helper EXTRAORDINAIRE on both days!
Mark Stiles-Helper EXTRAORDINAIRE on both days!
Ben Crosby-Helper EXTRAORDINAIRE on both days!
Rhonda Crosby-Helper EXTRAORDINAIRE on both days!
Dick Parker--Helper EXTRAORDINAIRE on both days!-CTP-MINI-Thanks for it!-Photographer-what else already?  Geesh :o 8) ???
Kelly Warren-Firestarter generally a warm guy!
Angie Biondo and Brad "The Mayor"-CTP Prizes
Dynamic Disc's-CTP Prizes-per Pete Cashen
Dan Howard-CTP Prizes
Steve Glover-CTP Prizes
Boulevard Beer-Beer Sponsor-Jeremy Danner-A Big Thanks for delivery and pickup of beer!
Dean Machinery Belton-Generator-Richard Forrest Mgr made that happen-Was that cool or what!?!?!?!
OUr media Partners:
KCTV5
KSHB 41
Channel 9
Northeast News
Kent Vos blog-"I thought that too!" (Facebook)

Chili-
Without the people helping, it wouldn't be the same, you should thank all the people that brought food for you to eat!
Judging the Chili this year was:
Scott Burnett-yr 5 I believe for Scott
Wayne St. Vincent-yr 3 for Wayne I am pretty sure
Fred Netherton-If hes good enough to cook for my birthday, he is good enough to judge chili! yr 1!
Dan Truax for following up on registration in my absence

Those people that brought chili-
Nick Davis-award winner 2011 chili
John Theiss-Runner Up (tied)
Matt-Runner Up (tied)
Angie B
Tony Todd
Kevin Montgomery
Caleb Walker
Lee Killian
Steve Glover
Jeff Webb
Jay Rivard
Dick Parker
Jack Lowe
MM-(Never got your name, got # from crockpot though)
Terri
Albert
Fawn
Dan Quinn
Joe's Home
Late arrival Chili (Arrived after judging)
Tavish Carduff
Kevin Crist
Mike Spady
Ben ?-(Was there last saturday, came and played sunday, I foroget your name, sorry!)
Mama Dresser's Brownie's
Chug's Rum Balls


I am sure that I left our people.  Suffice it to say, it takes a large group to make this event happen.

I think that the event went pretty well.  I liked the option on Staurday and it appears that many of you did as well.

I am leaning towards the following for next year-
Saturday is PRE-Registered only.  We will do only 4 or 5 somes at the most, but.....I am leaning towards 3 rounds of availability-
8:30 tee
11:30 tee
2:30 tee

If you want to play on Saturday you will need to pre-register for a specific time slot, if at 15 minutes before the tee time you have not checked in, your spot may be given away for that time frame, but you will move to the next round.  People may walk up and try to play, it will be based on the availability of the pool.

Mulligans will be available on Saturday next year.  Enough people complained, and hey it all goes to charity, I missed the boat on it, but its a learning curve.

Who knows what will transpire in the next upcoming year, with the generator out there, many of you musicians wanted to play, I may explore that, though Unified Government is not as supportive of local music as KCMO P&R are with the permits, so......unsure about that.

It was great, I will tally and see what we have, I will work on scores and the SHAME LIST for us to start to send out to those that didn't even bother to show up.

I thank many of you who paid and didnt play, and those of you that at least bothered to show up and support the event.

It is a great event with great people.  It is all of you that made it great, and I thank each and everyone of you for your support of this, and the countless people that I mentioned and failed to mention for making this yeat again another fantastic Kansas City Ice Bowl.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Kevin Montgomery on January 31, 2011, 11:17:24 AM
 8) 8)  Chug's Rum Balls   ;D ;D  (I think he's starting to get the hang of making those things.)

To whoever brought the curry chili - Nice addition!! Very tasty!

It was just all too great, Blvd beers, all that wonderful chili, the great vibes - Long Live the Ice Bowl!!!!

Thanks to Jack and all those he listed for making it happen. It makes me proud to be a KCFDC member and KC disc golfer.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: hyzerponix on January 31, 2011, 02:11:34 PM
Congrats on the win, Leo!

Also congrats to everyone who put the Ice Bowl on and to those who participated. 8)
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on January 31, 2011, 04:09:41 PM
If you received tickets to the hockey game tomorrow night-please read below:
Mavericks Fans

GAME RESCHEDULED

 

MAVERICKS GAME TOMORROW, FEBRUARY 1, HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED FOR MARCH 22

 

INDEPENDENCE, MISSOURI - The Missouri Mavericks in conjunction with the Central Hockey League (CHL) announced the game tomorrow, Tuesday, February 1 between the Mavericks and Wichita Thunder at Independence Events Center has been postponed due to impending inclement weather.  The Mavericks will leave for Colorado early for their game against the Eagles on Wednesday,  February 2 to ensure only one game will be cancelled.  Tuesday's home game has been rescheduled for Tuesday, March 22 at Independence Events Center at 7:05pm.

 

All tickets purchased for the game this Tuesday will be honored on March 22

 

The game was scheduled as Mac's Birthday in which the first 2,000 fans will receive a Mac bobblehead, and the game on the 22nd will be celebrated as Mac's Belated Birthday.  All promotions for the game this Tuesday will be moved to the game on March 22.

 

Tickets are available for all Missouri Mavericks home games at the Independence Events Center Box Office, by calling (800) 745-3000 or visiting www.ticketmaster.com.

 

Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Leo D. on January 31, 2011, 10:43:01 PM
Thanks to all that lended a hand in the event. I had a great time.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: The Can tankerous A.N.G on February 01, 2011, 05:16:39 AM
Thanks to Becky Stebbins for being the queen of the Ice Bowl Page. It was great to see what was setup and how everyone posted pictures and got pumped for the Ice Bowl.

I had a blast, and thanks a ton to everyone who contributed. Ya'll rock.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on February 01, 2011, 11:17:51 PM
315 people participated in the Ice Bowl this year, there are obviously a long list of people that didnt make it this year that made it last year.

Here are the stats from the event:
First    Last   Rd 1   Rd2   Total
Leo   DaPrato   44   23   67
Bryan    Guthrie   44   23   67
Tracy   Walker   43   28   71
Eric   Garberg   52   24   76
Erik   Kolkmeier   50   26   76
Jim   Muzic   50   26   76
Caleb   Walker   48   28   76
Ben   Hansen   53   24   77
Anthony   Puryear   53   24   77
Nick   Winkelbauer   51   26   77
Chris   Palmer   50   27   77
Mark   Stiles   50   27   77
Spencer   Weatherholt   50   27   77
Josh   Harvey   52   26   78
Bob   Ward   52   26   78
Jay   Cram   51   27   78
David   Validiviez   50   28   78
Granville   Hare   54   25   79
Dan   Quinn   53   26   79
Kelly   Warren   53   26   79
Brian   Taylor   52   27   79
Cecil   Freeze   53   27   80
Steven   Harris   53   27   80
Seth   Wolzen   52   28   80
Ryan   Keck   54   27   81
Bob   Walker   54   27   81
Steven   Glover   53   28   81
Miles   McKee   52   29   81
Josh   Collins   56   26   82
Greg   Lewis   55   27   82
Leevarn   Sarvis   55   27   82
Rich   Cronin   54   28   82
Connor   Mitts   54   28   82
Tom   Butler   51   31   82
Dan   Howard   58   25   83
Chase   Cooper   57   26   83
Cade   Garrelts   57   26   83
Michael   Taylor   57   26   83
Thomas   Davis   55   28   83
Casey   Dopson   55   28   83
Josh   Engle   55   28   83
Travis   Roth   55   28   83
Matt   Taylor   54   29   83
Rodney   Beagle   53   30   83
Nicody   Tucker   58   26   84
Jon   McAnaw   57   27   84
Josh   Oothoudt   56   28   84
Rizzloe   Jones   55   29   84
William   Mersman   55   29   84
Ron   Ward   55   29   84
Brian   Woodson   55   29   84
Jeremy   Sexton   54   30   84
Jay   Rivard   57   28   85
Joel   Smith   56   29   85
Kevin   Zane   56   29   85
Lee    Killian   54   31   85
Matt   Sime   54   31   85
John   Thiess   59   27   86
Tim   Mika   58   28   86
Demian   Vela   58   28   86
Steve    Hostetler   57   29   86
Stuart   Rangel   56   30   86
Chris   Scherzer   56   30   86
Kevin   Crist   54   32   86
Dan   Hilaker   58   29   87
Travis   Dartwiler   57   30   87
Jeff   Hoglund   57   30   87
James   McLaughlin   57   30   87
Mike   Filla   60   28   88
Chris   Timko   58   30   88
Albert   Boetcher   56   32   88
Peter   Bures   61   28   89
Steve   Dresser   61   28   89
BJ   Font   60   29   89
Ben   Crosby   58   31   89
Kristian   Harmon   58   31   89
Ian   Nalivaiko   56   33   89
Rick   Rothstein   62   28   90
Jeremy   Oitker   62   29   91
Robert Brandon   Jones   60   31   91
William   LaRocca   62   30   92
Neil   Roth   61   32   93
Tom   Verstraete   61   32   93
Brandon   Hensley   65   29   94
Shean   Stanton   65   29   94
Paul   Salerno   64   30   94
Jason   Talley   63   31   94
Corey   Dunbar   61   33   94
Edwin   Hort   61   33   94
Riley   Long   65   30   95
Jim   Ramey   63   32   95
Dustin   Smith   63   32   95
Kevin   Montgomery   62   33   95
Jason   Dockery   60   35   95
Kevin   Corbin   64   32   96
Russell   Madsen   64   32   96
Keith   Werner   64   32   96
Kent   Kelly   62   34   96
Matt   Mayfield   67   30   97
Robert   Hoesly   67   31   98
Dan   Conroy   66   32   98
Ben   Gardner   66   32   98
Lee   Washburn   67   32   99
Matt   Jarvis   65   34   99
Brian   Vera   64   35   99
Brian   Corbin   66   34   100
Amanda   Jackson   66   34   100
Gary   Long   65   35   100
Josh   Mason   70   31   101
Brian   Barker   68   33   101
Marc   Mason   66   36   102
Jason   Atkins   71   32   103
Chris   Hutchings   66   37   103
Jerry   Brown Jr.   75   29   104
Adam   Richter   70   34   104
James   Ulloa   68   36   104
Roger   Oman   67   37   104
Rhonda   Crosby   72   34   106
Aaron   Lamley   71   35   106
Mark   Cooper   70   39   109
Mike   Dresser   70   39   109
Jon   Lytle   76   34   110
David   Ridge-Yates   72   38   110
Mark   Tabor   75   36   111
Justin   Birdsall   76   36   112
Mike   Valent   74   38   112
Nathan   Atkins   76   37   113
Caleb   Mason   76   37   113
Dennis   Cashman   74   40   114
Tyler   Halcom   82   33   115
Rick   Leal   77   38   115
Fawn   Brown   75   40   115
John   Park   78   38   116
Terri   Lang   68   48   116
Mark   ?????   64   53   117
Mark   Moseley   84   40   124
Alexander   Daney   82   42   124
Tristen   Lang   78   49   127
Joe    Dolman   87   45   132
Eric   Caples   91   49   140
            

Played One Round            
Chris   Hutchings   
Heather    Lewis   
Eric   Eastwood   47
Dick   Parker   48
Adam   Cossette   52
Mark   Martin   53
Mark   Mills   53
Derek   Newman   53
Brian   Palmer   53
Jason   Rollins   53
Jim   Sherwood   53
Otto   Spiers   53
Cecil   Cameron   54
Peter   Cashen   54
Brad "Mayor"   Damico   54
Bob   Field   54
Mike   Keizer   54
Brad   Lenheim   54
Chris   Lett   54
Dean-O   Uhlman   54
George   Eudy   55
Fred   Netherton   55
Brandon   Wade   55
Ray   Woodruff   55
Kelly   Balduska   56
Sean   Elliot   56
Andy-Slant   Lewis   56
Dan   Weinert   56
Ryne   Box   57
Steve   Clayton   57
Vincent   Como   57
Jon   Gibson   57
Brad   Hilton   57
Ed    Holbrook   57
Steven   Kling   57
David   Koenig   57
Matt   Shively   57
Don   VanHorn   57
Angie   Biondo   58
Rollin   Clamme   58
Joshua   Collins   58
William   Tunis   58
Robert   Chapman   59
Wes   Hilton   59
Bob   McDaniel   59
Brady   Spencer   59
Jamie   Barry   60
Shawn   Laurent   60
Robert   Maggard   60
Tim   Richardson   60
Todd   Sineath   60
Dennis   Smith   60
David   Vonniell   60
David   Walker   60
Doogin   Brown   61
Chadwick   Cope   61
Parker   Gross   61
Steve   Hathaway   61
Eric    Millard   61
Deljon   Riddle   61
Boyd   Childers   62
Mike   Henninger   62
James   Konomos   62
Davin   Markley   62
Aron   Otto   62
Bill   Shinoski   62
Pat   Stallbaumer   62
Matt   Thrasher   62
Stephen   Woll   62
Todd   Andrews   63
Jeff   Dyer   63
Jakob   Nelson   63
Sean   Snider   63
Jeremy   Wade   63
Eli   Alholm   64
Paul   Borjas   64
Matt   Burkhart   64
Kaitlin   Clayton   64
Ed    Gonzales   64
Kenny   Moon   64
Aaron   Scully   64
Carl   Ward   64
Matt   hood   65
Luke   Longcor   65
Darry   O'Connor   65
Brad   Kiel   66
Marcus   Paccapanicca   66
Chad    Burns   67
Nick   Fraise   67
Dustin   McAnany   67
Jeremiah   Reynolds   67
Dennis   Stanley   67
Joe    Chiles   68
Callom   Jones   68
Matt   McNally   68
Trevor   Palmer   68
Melissa   White   68
William   Kennedy   69
Zac*   Salazar   69
Jamie   Searle   69
Yanina   Langer   70
Geoff   Makin   70
Tony   Todd   70
Daria   Franklin   72
Anthony   Tixer   72
Tyler   Riggs   73
Van   Spratford   73
Becky   Stebbins   75
Ellis   Ruffin   76
LeighAnn   Hoglund   77
Tamee   Neenan   80
Andrew   Chapman   81
Steve   Kohlmeyer   81
Jonny   Malroy   83
Tom   O'Connor   100
            
            
Supporters of the Event!   
Mike   Audley
Jen    Brockman
Joe    Calwell
Tavish   Carduff
John   Chapman
Boyd   Chilkers
Kaitlan   Clayton
Robert   Crook
Travis   Daetwiler
Thomas   Eidson
Matt   Eklund
Paul    Eklund
David   Emerson
Josh   Ferguson
Keith   Galven
Clay   Gammil
Ashley   Gideon
Michael   Gray
Rob   Hack
Edwin   Hart
Deanna   Harwig
Ray   Harwig
Kathy    Henderson
Tom   Henderson
Joe   Hesting
Max   Hilgers
Jesse   Hill
Sara   Hill
Chris   Holbrook
Tyler   Holcom
Brad    Hunter
Earl   Johnson Sr
Ted   Keith
Jeff   Kelley
Brian   Koch
Jim    Kreeger
Doug   Kroll
Melissa   Lake
Matt   Neenan
Jed   Neenan
Bill    Neenan
Drew   Neitzel
Ryan   Oldham
Sam   Olliso
Lisa   Olliso
Daniel   Pearson
Justin   Rodgers
Shane   Rosemann
Tony   Roush
Sally   Rowden
Fred   Smith
Steve   Thimmesch
Tony   Troxel
Craig   Walker
Alex   Walter
Jeff   Webb
Lance   Williams
Adam   Witt
Vlad   Wunschl
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: discglover on February 14, 2011, 10:16:41 AM
What were the final figures if everything is tallied up?
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: discglover on February 26, 2011, 09:39:48 AM
Its been almost a month. Whats up?
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on February 28, 2011, 09:24:12 AM
A-it hasnt been a month, look at a calendar before you figure out dates dude......(MY BAD, gLOVER IS RIGHT AS USUAL..... ::) , BECAUSE THAT WAS THE POINT i WAS TRYING TO MAKE HERE)
B-We are still trying to collect more money to give to the charity before a total is confirmed.
C-THe totals will be posted after all checks have cleared, etc.....I just took the checks to the bank last week from the event.
D-I have a life beyond disc golf, and it hasnt been my top priority to figure out the Ice Bowl yet, as its a VOLUNTEER function.  Don't like it, why not run it next year? (I didnt see you offer it still Glover, you wann do it?)
E- ;D
F-Once an amount has been determined, I will share it with the Board of Directors, and we shall finalize an amount and post at that time, so it will be after the next meeting that this information will probably be shared. (seems to be the most informed way of doing things, I could put a number out here, but if it changes, then I look like a fool, well even more foolish)
G-Its all good!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: sirbronco on February 28, 2011, 09:48:07 AM
A-it hasnt been a month, look at a calendar before you figure out dates dude......
B-We are still trying to collect more money to give to the charity before a total is confirmed.
C-THe totals will be posted after all checks have cleared, etc.....I just took the checks to the bank last week from the event.
D-I have a life beyond disc golf, and it hasnt been my top priority to figure out the Ice Bowl yet, as its a VOLUNTEER function.  Don't like it, why not run it next year?
E- ;D
F-Once an amount has been determined, I will share it with the Board of Directors, and we shall finalize an amount and post at that time, so it will be after the next meeting that this information will probably be shared.
G-Its all good!

 ;D
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: discglover on February 28, 2011, 10:42:38 AM
i noticed it hadnt been a month yet.
Thats why I said almost
You must not read very well.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: kidmills on February 28, 2011, 01:30:42 PM
A-it hasnt been a month, look at a calendar before you figure out dates dude......
B-We are still trying to collect more money to give to the charity before a total is confirmed.
C-THe totals will be posted after all checks have cleared, etc.....I just took the checks to the bank last week from the event.
D-I have a life beyond disc golf, and it hasnt been my top priority to figure out the Ice Bowl yet, as its a VOLUNTEER function.  Don't like it, why not run it next year?
E- ;D
F-Once an amount has been determined, I will share it with the Board of Directors, and we shall finalize an amount and post at that time, so it will be after the next meeting that this information will probably be shared.
G-Its all good!
should have just rick run the ice bowl,less BS
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: dickthediscparker on February 28, 2011, 02:31:34 PM
response deleted and hopefully Jack does the same...
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on February 28, 2011, 02:50:51 PM
A-it hasnt been a month, look at a calendar before you figure out dates dude......
B-We are still trying to collect more money to give to the charity before a total is confirmed.
C-THe totals will be posted after all checks have cleared, etc.....I just took the checks to the bank last week from the event.
D-I have a life beyond disc golf, and it hasnt been my top priority to figure out the Ice Bowl yet, as its a VOLUNTEER function.  Don't like it, why not run it next year?
E- ;D
F-Once an amount has been determined, I will share it with the Board of Directors, and we shall finalize an amount and post at that time, so it will be after the next meeting that this information will probably be shared.
G-Its all good!
should have just rick run the ice bowl,less BS

Curious by what you mean "less BS", please elaborate
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: will on February 28, 2011, 03:02:20 PM
Curious by what you mean "less BS", please elaborate

brown sugar!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: Anthony Puryear on February 28, 2011, 04:16:34 PM
Jack, I thought you did a great job running the Ice Bowl this year. Especially under the course conditions. I felt it ran much smoother than the past couple years have. And I enjoyed playing saturday and Sunday. Thanks for the work you put in. Please continue running the ice bowl  ::) ;D
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: twoDornottwoD on February 28, 2011, 04:23:48 PM
should have just rick run the ice bowl,less BS

haters gonna hate.  Rick was supposed to be out of town that weekend and asked if someone else could run it for him. way to show jack your appreciation for his volunteer efforts.  ::)
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on February 28, 2011, 04:36:30 PM
Jack, I thought you did a great job running the Ice Bowl this year. Especially under the course conditions. I felt it ran much smoother than the past couple years have. And I enjoyed playing saturday and Sunday. Thanks for the work you put in. Please continue running the ice bowl  ::) ;D

Thanks,  It is an effort though that took many people, namely Van and Stiles, and Dick, and Drew, and Rick, and Ben, and Rhonda, and........I didn't do it alone, never can an event that big.  My only real hope is that by it being so much easier to play that more people will return next year.  I did learn a lot in my first running of the Ice Bowl in many years (well as the TD any way, again I didn't run it).  The goal was to think about how to make it easier on the player, I thought that we did a great job of that, but we were down 25% in attendance, and that helped, however it may help next year as Saturday will be set tee times again of 8:30, 11:30, 2:30, then those playing the 2nd Round, I am leaning towards splitting up a tee time for those players shooting 60+ @ 1:00, those shooting <59 @ 2:45 for the final nine holes, you will know where you aer if you play Saturday, then can plan accordingly, the rules wont change, just be a better way to thin out the course for ease of play.


Its along way till next year though!
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on February 28, 2011, 04:45:00 PM
should have just rick run the ice bowl,less BS

haters gonna hate.  Rick was supposed to be out of town that weekend and asked if someone else could run it for him. way to show jack your appreciation for his volunteer efforts.  ::)

If he has some valid points, I am all for it, would love to hear what he felt was BS< to see if it can be addressed in the future.  Nothing is ever perfect, somethings can be done better, and if no one says anything differently, and just pats me on the back, how the ()&%@#()%&_ would I improve?  I am very serious I would like to know what BS MIlls felt was there so that I can say sorry it wont happen again, or sorry that cant be done, or just to say *()&@#%(*&@#%*() it, I can't make that happen, deal with it.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: discglover on March 01, 2011, 12:49:32 PM
I really was not attempting to stir up anything. I inquired once about totals and had no response so I asked what was up on the next post. I had no problem with how it was ran.
Title: Re: 2011 ICE BOWL
Post by: jack on March 14, 2011, 12:00:15 PM
Down almost 25% from last year was the attendance, what is worst is that we were down close to 30% in contributions to the event itself.  Last year we gave $5300+, this year it appears as though that we will be donating ~$3100 to event.

If you would still like to add to the Ice Bowl total, please contact me ASAP.  If you give to the cause this year, after we have made our payment, you can rest assured that we will get it in to them at any rate.

They appreciate all the support that we can give!