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Title: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: Dale W on October 11, 2011, 07:46:30 PM
The Kansas City Flying Disc Golf Club Tag System Rules 2007

1. Tags must be attached to bags in a visible location and carried at all times.

2. You MUST play with other tag holders on your card at any KCFDC event. Off-card challenges should be limited to one individual choice, you can accept or decline off-card challenges.  Off-card challenges will be settled after on-card challenges.

3. You may not hide or withhold a tag when you have a lower number.

4. If you have to leave during a challenge round for any reason you will forfeit your tag and graciously accept the highest numbered tag in the group.

5.  If you lose your tag you may be able to PURCHASE a new one depending upon availability, you must also notify a member of the EC if tag 1-10 is lost.

6. If you have a tag you must try to play in one club event each month.



I am attempting to educate myself on Tag Rules as this is the first year I will be a member/participating with tags.  I am sure other new members are wondering the same things as I am:

1) Are these rules still accurate?  If not, what are the changes and are they published anywhere?

2) What is the "out of town" challenge rules? 

Thanks in advance for the clarification.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: coops on October 11, 2011, 08:18:41 PM
Yes, except 6 really isn't true too much.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: discglover on October 12, 2011, 11:31:22 AM
#6's concern was for those holding the first several tag #'s.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: ian on November 23, 2011, 09:22:39 AM
This might of been answered before, but are the 2012 tags in play once you get one or do you have to use the 2011's until the end of the year? Just wondering.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: kidmills on November 23, 2011, 10:10:58 AM
well most people that have lower 2011 tags will say that they will only play 2012 tags now that they have one
the ones that have low 2012 tags will say that when it is 2012 they will play for that tag
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: jamidanger on November 23, 2011, 11:02:31 AM
rule 1, keep your most current tag on your bag - it's always in play for casual rounds, leagues and tourneys- if you don't want to lose your tag, shoot better than your opponents, it's just a game, not a sport.
rule 2, make an off card challenge, it's more fun for everyone.
rule 3, if you're not golfing regularly why the flock did you getta tag to begin with?
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: The Big Smooth on December 10, 2011, 11:01:14 AM
Yeah I think there needs to be clarification by the club as to what year tags are in play when. It seems kind of obvious that if you have a 2012 tag that the 2011 season is over. Granted I am talking about beer league now but they posted a picture where they were playing for 2011 and 2012 tags. To me that would be kind of like contesting the 2011 and the 2012 world series of poker at the same time. When one ends the other begins, right? If the club wanted golfers playing for the 2011 tags why did they spend the money on 2012 tags so early?
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: jack on December 12, 2011, 11:10:45 AM
Why are the 2012 cars out in September? ;D

THe championship determines the initial offering of the tags, and therefore shiould be viewed as the "new year" for tags after the meeting when they are distributed.

You can always play for older tags, but I would think that you would want to keep it in the same year.  The tags this year with the varying historical icons on them may be a little more collectable to some though.

As for the tags in play, the rules were morphed that the top 10 were supposed to be played in league once a month, this is why the league sheets and some scorecards have TAG # on them, to track the tag to ensure that its not being used as a dust collector at home.

Though I took #3 from St. Louis, and Dan had #12 from there in 2006 I think, and brought it home, so sometimes it is impossible to prevent.  I did return to St. Louis though and played and left with #78, they were much happier that day then when I left with #3...
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: jhinck2 on December 12, 2011, 12:07:23 PM
Can someone post all of the rules? Having only been a member of the club since this past summer, I didn't know all of the rules with regards to tags. Since I have the 2012 #10 tag, clearly there are some rules such as when they came into play that I didn't know. I just assumed it would become effective January 1. I will be sure to get my tag out there. Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: LKillian on December 12, 2011, 03:28:25 PM
Here is the most basic of tag rules.

Don't be a pussy, if its on your bag then play for it.

Don't want to play for it, take it off your bag and come up with some pussy excuse of why you don't have it.

In general don't be a puss.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: jhinck2 on December 12, 2011, 04:37:23 PM
I know you aren't calling me a puss Lee. You know better, and are welcome to challenge at any time.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: dickthediscparker on December 12, 2011, 04:40:56 PM
There are no set rules other than:

Tags are in Play during all KCFDC Leagues or Tournaments (on card only, though off cards are welcome)

These are 2012 Tags that are given out in 2011.  Your choice.  Play with the 2011 or 2012 or both.

If you decline a challenge you may be called a wuss until further notice.

If you have a lower rated tag you should put it in play at least 2-3 per month.  Not just with your buddies (olathe ahem)
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: discglover on December 12, 2011, 05:00:28 PM
Can someone purchase enough tags to get all the available variety?
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: LKillian on December 13, 2011, 04:26:04 PM
I would never call you a puss Jordan, Now i might say that you throw like a pussy, but that is different.

I usually don't slum down with the double digits ;D, but if You would like to challenge me for the number 6. I can be found slightly impaired sundays at swope. You might have to dodge discs for a solid four hours, but i'll be easy pickens for ya.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: Danny Rodriguez on April 16, 2012, 11:59:32 AM
i admitt this is nit-picky.    is there a general consensus on how to handle a bag tag in the event of a tie in a casual round?  do you/should you have a sudden death playoff or do you just tell the guy sorry you had 18 holes to win, better luck next time?

just curious,    i lost my 24 tag in sudden death and apparently i'm still not over it.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: eeastwood on April 16, 2012, 12:12:13 PM
I don't play bag tags all that often.  But generally I've heard that ties after the round means no change of bag tags.  However, for casual rounds you need to define what's a round is .... 9, 18, 27 or whatever. 
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: Dale W on April 16, 2012, 02:19:51 PM
To lose the lower tag (1 for example), the higher tag (2 for example) would have to win the round.  If it's a tie, the higher tag didnt win so no tags are exchanged.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: Kevin Montgomery on April 16, 2012, 02:30:44 PM
    i lost my 24 tag in sudden death and apparently i'm still not over it.

Sounds like you got suckered...  If you were playing an 18 hole round and the round ended in a tie no tags change hands. Unless, of course, you both agreed to keep playing until tags changed hands... but considering the fact that the one person that will lose the lower tag has nothing to gain by continuing....  you got suckered....  Basically, if you were sporting #24 and the other guy has #240 and you finished 18 holes in a draw he didn't win your tag. To have kept playing you would have had to agree in advance (before the round) to not allow a draw.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: otter on April 16, 2012, 04:27:44 PM
Was HeWho involved?  :D
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: BenC on April 23, 2012, 07:58:09 AM
Here is the most basic of tag rules.

Don't be a pussy, if its on your bag then play for it.

Don't want to play for it, take it off your bag and come up with some pussy excuse of why you don't have it.

In general don't be a puss.

If the only people you give a challenge to is your family, why did you get a tag in the first place?
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: Dale W on April 23, 2012, 04:06:58 PM
I beat you the second round anyway, so it didnt matter, did it?
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: BenC on April 24, 2012, 08:54:50 AM
You have had the #8 tag for a month.  In that time you have only defended it once against someone other than a family member and there were some shenanigans after that when the tag was GIVEN back to you, not won.
 It is your prerogative on the off card challenges you accept, but only accepting them from family members “to keep the tag in the family”, your words, is kind of weak.
 If I had known I was dealing with Cerberus I wouldn’t have even asked about the tag after the first round Saturday.  To be told that it doesn't matter that we were on the same card it wasn’t an official tag challenge because we weren’t in Kansas City, again weak.
 Yes, you are correct, you would have left Lamoni with the #8 tag because you won the second round and I would have given you the off card challenge that is how it works.  But to try to justify the BS you guys pulled by saying you won the second round so it didn’t mater.  Weak, weak, weak.
If you would like we can continue our discussion offline.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: ian on April 24, 2012, 08:58:18 AM
Bring the #8 to Swope tonight!
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: phisherman_77 on April 24, 2012, 09:50:38 AM
If you're at a PDGA event out of town and someone from KC is on your card, the tag IS in play.

total d**k move otherwise.  very weak sauce.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: twoDornottwoD on April 24, 2012, 10:29:08 AM
If you're at a PDGA event out of town and someone from KC is on your card, the tag IS in play.

total d**k move otherwise.  very weak sauce.

yep.  doesnt matter if you are in kc or japan, casual round or tourney.  if you have a kc tag or any tag that is the same kind as any other person on your card, they should be in play.  if not, you are a COWARD and you have wasted your money and the person's you are refusing to compete against.  thanks for the donation to the club and all, but the only challenges possibly not accepted should be off-card challenges and doubles rounds.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: BenC on April 24, 2012, 02:14:08 PM
Dale is not a coward.  Get to know him before using that word to describe him.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: jamidanger on April 24, 2012, 02:41:43 PM
sand-taggers, i've got 56
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: phisherman_77 on April 24, 2012, 03:08:19 PM
Dale is not a coward.  Get to know him before using that word to describe him.

Hoarding a bag tag is weak sauce.  Period.  Coward or not.

Learn and bide the rules if you want to play the game.

Besides, why hoard the tag?  For bragging rights?  If your game isn't strong enough to defend it, how does having a low tag make you feel good or proud of yourself?
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: CJW on April 24, 2012, 03:50:26 PM
Lets say I have tag #1 and I want to challenge the whole Wacky WYCO league. What is the best way to do that?   
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: Dale W on April 24, 2012, 03:55:37 PM
You have had the #8 tag for a month.  In that time you have only defended it once against someone other than a family member and there were some shenanigans after that when the tag was GIVEN back to you, not won.
 It is your prerogative on the off card challenges you accept, but only accepting them from family members “to keep the tag in the family”, your words, is kind of weak.
 If I had known I was dealing with Cerberus I wouldn’t have even asked about the tag after the first round Saturday.  To be told that it doesn't matter that we were on the same card it wasn’t an official tag challenge because we weren’t in Kansas City, again weak.
 Yes, you are correct, you would have left Lamoni with the #8 tag because you won the second round and I would have given you the off card challenge that is how it works.  But to try to justify the BS you guys pulled by saying you won the second round so it didn’t mater.  Weak, weak, weak.
If you would like we can continue our discussion offline.

Do you really want to go here?  I can describe SEVERAL of your BS antics regarding keeping tags in YOUR family or trying to get this one back that you have pulled that are even WEAKER than this one.  You really need to look in the mirror, act your AGE, and learn how to enter scores on your phone app before you start talking sh*t to me about this crap.

If you're at a PDGA event out of town and someone from KC is on your card, the tag IS in play.

total d**k move otherwise.  very weak sauce.


The way the original rules read that I posted state "a KCFDC league event".  Dick Parker's post a little further down states "KCFDC league or tounament"  If I misinterpereted that, then my bad.




yep.  doesnt matter if you are in kc or japan, casual round or tourney.  if you have a kc tag or any tag that is the same kind as any other person on your card, they should be in play.  if not, you are a COWARD and you have wasted your money and the person's you are refusing to compete against.  thanks for the donation to the club and all, but the only challenges possibly not accepted should be off-card challenges and doubles rounds.

I have been called alot of things in my life, but never a coward.  Unless you have defended your country in enemy territory, dont even THINK about calling me that again because you are enjoying the ability to play this game by people like me.  If you have defended this country in enemy territory, then we can have a different talk off the disc golf course and determine who is the coward.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: AWalters on April 24, 2012, 04:23:56 PM
unless the rules were changed and never posted you do not have to do any bag tag challenge outside of kcfdc events. if u dont like this take it to the board and have them update the rules.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: AWalters on April 24, 2012, 04:28:34 PM
As for the one person that has earned the bag tag from us declined it himself. There is no rule against that.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: Kevin Montgomery on April 24, 2012, 04:41:08 PM
I thought the bag tag challenge was supposed to be a fun activity....   :D
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: dickthediscparker on April 24, 2012, 04:50:47 PM
As the rules state, If you do not accept challenges then everyone has the right to mock you and call you names until you do. So technically what everyone is doing here is within the rules. So please everyone... Don't take this stuff personally. And for anyone... ANYONE who does not accept a bag tag challenge. ESPECIALLY within a tournament where you are on the same card... You are a wuss. :)
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: AWalters on April 24, 2012, 04:54:28 PM
u can call my dad many names but he has and never will be a coward.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: dickthediscparker on April 24, 2012, 05:17:06 PM
Fair enough.  Dale... your a wuss. :P
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: AWalters on April 24, 2012, 07:24:09 PM
yes that is a correct statement lol
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: Dale W on April 24, 2012, 09:34:28 PM
Open invitation....the tag in question will be up for grabs at the next league I play (Smithville League on Sunday unless something keeps me from being there).  If it is not lost to another player, it will be "lost".  This convo is over....any issues have been worked out tonight.  No anger...friendship is worth more than a stupid piece of metal.

@Dick....oh well :P
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: Ken Franks on April 24, 2012, 09:48:14 PM
bag tags..............................................................
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: jhinck2 on April 24, 2012, 10:27:40 PM
............mean nothing. Certainly not something to get panties in a bunch over.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: jamidanger on April 24, 2012, 10:52:40 PM
Lets say I have tag #1 and I want to challenge the whole Wacky WYCO league. What is the best way to do that?   

hold onto your tag until friday
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: Utz on April 25, 2012, 12:22:11 PM
BAG TAGS mean EVERYTHING. without Tags, there is no Golf. god.. can you guys take this sport a little more serious please?



Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: phisherman_77 on April 25, 2012, 12:51:24 PM
Hey, you don't have to take it seriously.

But others do, and that's their right.  That's why there are rules for the tags.  If you want to hoard tags and only play tag rounds with buddies, do it with a crappy tag and leave the low numbers to the groups of people that are going to actually put them on the line regularly.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: Tom on April 25, 2012, 01:30:56 PM
If you make every game a life and death proposition, you're going to have problems. For one thing, you'll be dead a lot.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: asjzn6 on April 25, 2012, 04:20:32 PM
We always ran into a problem of low tags showing up in columbia, at the club championships you wouldnt see tags 1-7. Is there a forum where you can post if you either won or lost a top ten tag. I would like to know where those tags are playing league to go there and try and challenge for it.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: Timko on April 25, 2012, 04:53:36 PM
I think that's the purpose of this thread. (http://kcfdc.org/forum/index.php?topic=7384.0)
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: Mantis on April 25, 2012, 09:56:52 PM
All this fighting makes me laugh...
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: CJW on April 26, 2012, 11:15:04 AM
 

Caleb,  yeah,  first you have to keep it 'til Friday.  Then just do as Wink did, announce before the round that #1 is up for grabs for the best score of the entire league.  On card challanges for you are null and void for the round.
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I was thinking we could put all the tags in, and  disperse them according to score.   
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: spnachio on April 26, 2012, 11:41:02 AM


Caleb,  yeah,  first you have to keep it 'til Friday.  Then just do as Wink did, announce before the round that #1 is up for grabs for the best score of the entire league.  On card challanges for you are null and void for the round.


I was thinking we could put all the tags in, and  disperse them according to score.
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All in bag tags. If you have to leave quick after league, then dont put in.  For us dudes that never cash, it gives a little something to keep interest.

On another topic: Dale is cool get off his nuts
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: eeastwood on April 28, 2012, 10:33:11 AM
Here's a scenario I wanted to know how to handle.  Say there are 3 players with bag tags playing on a card in league.  Tag #'s 4, #50, and #260.  Say the #50 and #260 tie (both shoot 54), but both players beat the #4 bag tag holder (shot 56).  Who gets the #4 tag?  Clearly the former #4 who shot 56 gets #260 in this scenario.  But I couldn't figure out who gets the lowest tag since both of the other players have a claim to it. 
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: Kevin Montgomery on April 28, 2012, 10:55:33 AM
Here's a scenario I wanted to know how to handle.  Say there are 3 players with bag tags playing on a card in league.  Tag #'s 4, #50, and #260.  Say the #50 and #260 tie (both shoot 54), but both players beat the #4 bag tag holder (shot 56).  Who gets the #4 tag?  Clearly the former #4 who shot 56 gets #260 in this scenario.  But I couldn't figure out who gets the lowest tag since both of the other players have a claim to it.

The person with #50 gets #4 and the #260 holder goes to #50 (still a pretty nice jump). Basically, whoever had the lower tag among the two that tied for the lowest tag gets the lowest tag. That seems like the way to handle it to me.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: Twister66 on April 28, 2012, 11:10:15 AM
I agree with with that logic.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: spnachio on November 13, 2013, 05:03:02 PM
So I just wanted to see how everyone play tags. I play my current(2013) till the end of the year. I will also play my 2014 when I buy one at club elections. I thought maybe waiting till Ice Bowl to play 2014 but I ALWAYS play for tag, so from now till end of year I'll play for both. What do yall like to do with tags?
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: andyportwood on November 13, 2013, 05:11:45 PM
So I just wanted to see how everyone play tags. I play my current(2013) till the end of the year. I will also play my 2014 when I buy one at club elections. I thought maybe waiting till Ice Bowl to play 2014 but I ALWAYS play for tag, so from now till end of year I'll play for both. What do yall like to do with tags?
I just leave it to the discretion of everyone on the card. In my opinion, its for fun any way. Ill even put my '12 tag on the line if someone wants to play for it  ;D
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: dickthediscparker on November 14, 2013, 07:58:56 AM
Technically, the 2014 don't need to be in play until 2014. I typically will not take mine out until then. Also with all the local minis being doubles I rarely play singles rounds.

That being said. Do whatever you want.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: GrandviewAshton on July 09, 2014, 05:29:29 PM
OK I'm new what the fiddle sticks is a bag tag? what's the low number mean,what's a high number, shouldiI attempt to find a bag tag? are they expensive as I suck and if I get one I'll probably have to replace it a lot do they sell em in bulk? do they have pictures and all different or something on them? just looking for clarification
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: Zier on July 09, 2014, 10:08:35 PM
It's essentially a rating system. Tag #1 means you're really good. Tag #328 (my tag) means you just bought one a couple weeks ago, haven't played anyone for it, or I suck. All three are true. Does anyone have a tag number higher than mine? I'll play them for it. If I can't be first, I may as well be last.

You can buy them for $5 from Disc Golf World in KC. They have a bottle opener on them, so they're versatile.

Any time you play a round with someone else with a bag tag you're supposed to "wager" them. Low score on the round takes the lowest bag tag, highest the highest bag tag, and everyone else in between.  The rules are likely on page 1.
Title: Re: Bag Tag Rules
Post by: Rick Rothstein on July 10, 2014, 04:55:52 PM
You have to be an active member of the KCFDC to buy a bag tag. Memberships can be purchased at Disc Golf World and Dynamic Discs. You can also sign up online: http://kcfdc.org/membership/join/ (http://kcfdc.org/membership/join/)



It's essentially a rating system. Tag #1 means you're really good. Tag #328 (my tag) means you just bought one a couple weeks ago, haven't played anyone for it, or I suck. All three are true. Does anyone have a tag number higher than mine? I'll play them for it. If I can't be first, I may as well be last.

You can buy them for $5 from Disc Golf World in KC. They have a bottle opener on them, so they're versatile.

Any time you play a round with someone else with a bag tag you're supposed to "wager" them. Low score on the round takes the lowest bag tag, highest the highest bag tag, and everyone else in between.  The rules are likely on page 1.