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Innova order came in today:



Innova Discs that came in:

Gummy Champion Glow Destroyer
GStar TeeBird3 (T3)
Champion Glow Roc3
Yeti Pro Aviar
DX Roc


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Tournaments / Tournaments outside of KC/MO area.
« on: October 21, 2014, 04:33:04 PM »
Wow.  I got a wake up call this weekend playing a tournament outside of our area.

My in-laws are originally from Sioux City, IA and moved to Yankton, SD a few years ago.  This past weekend, Every Day Disc Golf out of St. Paul, MN was putting on two C-Tiers in Sioux Falls, SD so I thought it would be a good experience going somewhere else for some tournament action and pick up two tournaments.

Cost was $30 + $5 handling fee for Rec. per tournament.
There wasn't enough Rec players so I moved up to Intermediate.
No players pack.
No product available until after the tournament was over.
Central sign up area for those that didn't pre-register was a guy sitting in his car.  No table, no tent, no shelter.

Figuring up payouts afterwards, payouts were less than 80% of entry fees.  PDGA mandated C-Tiers minimum payouts (players' packs, actual payouts, etc. combined) are to be 85% or more.  I guess it all depends on what you consider 'costs'.  Costs are supposed to be PDGA fees and green fees (i.e. club or city park fees) only when computing this 85%.

He did have 4 CTP's, 2 discs and 2 Trotter boxes (cardboard boxes specifically made to store discs.  they retail for over $15).

The guy was decent enough, but basically it ran as a very expensive 2-round league.  54 players.  I've played in leagues in KC that had more than 54 players.

I didn't bother with playing the 2nd day tournament and instead picked up my 16th state to play in - Minnesota.  I'm now up to 106 courses played.

I have a couple of points I'm making.

First: Unmet expectations is when people get mad or sad.  The tournament was not what I was expecting.  It kind of pissed me off which made up my mind to not play the second C-tier the next day.  I guess I should have had lower expectations.

Second: The reason why I have higher expectations is because of what we exeperience here in our KC/MO area.  DD, KCFDC, DGW, LSDiscs, really do put on fantastic tournaments.  Generally they are run very well with attentive TD's, great players packs and payouts both.

I think if this individual gave something of a players pack, it would draw more 875 and below players (whether they are rated or not) which would inturn create more product turn for him plus incrementally create more revenue to have more payout for those that do well.

In hindsight, the tournament was pretty decent.  The only reason why I didn't cash because my putts for 1st round were atrocious, even for me. 

If they don't say Players' Pack in the advertisement - don't expect one.  (Which for me will bring the ceiling down on how much I'm willing to spend for the tournament).

I guess it just depends on how you want tournaments to be run.  It would seem as though there are two options.  Everyone gets something with a (perceived) less payment for those at the top.  Or, only those at the top get a (perceived large) payout if you compete well. 

Personally, I think you can have the first option which will create the means to have the second option.

Having sponsors of any type will help as well, which these tournaments had none. 

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General Banter / Re: The 'Official' ACE Thread!
« on: October 21, 2014, 04:03:41 PM »
While there were no witnesses but the creator himself, I got my first ace Friday.  Hole 8, Roadside Park, Alton, IA.  150 class Z Flick with a 18 mph left to right wind over water. 211 feet








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Good luck to everyone this weekend. I'm heading to South Dakota to play a tournament in Sioux Falls. Longest drive I've made to play a tournament. One course I will be playing blind which is a first for tournament play as well.

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General Banter / Re: Draining the pond at PC
« on: October 14, 2014, 10:47:26 AM »
Frequently I tell newer people I play with on courses with water that if I owned a disc golf store, I would have a water hazard on every course.

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Tournaments / Re: KCFDC Championships - October 11-12, 2014
« on: October 10, 2014, 04:47:20 PM »

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That sure is an early start for all us on a triptofan-induced coma...

While planning this, I struggled with a 8AM or 9AM players' meeting. I purposefully didn't put a tee off time because we would start as soon as the meeting is over (+ reasonable time to get to your tees).  With a 9AM, I was concerned about getting both rounds in, with lunch, and possible CTP playoffs afterwards.  The Grip bags are going home with people, whether an ace is hit or not, so I highly anticipate we will have a CTP unless there are EXACTLY 2 aces. 


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Hey - if you pre-register, you won't have to get there quite so early (hint hint).

http://www.discgolfscene.com/tournaments/Centennial_Chain_Crash_presented_by_Grip_Equipment_2014


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It's all about daylight CD, I am sure.

Yep.

Sunrise: 7:23am, Sunset: 4:56pm

With sunset before 5pm, we need to get a jump on it.


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Tournaments / Re: KCFDC Championships - October 11-12, 2014
« on: October 10, 2014, 12:19:12 PM »
Dick, you are my hero.

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I will have an ice cold case of Boulevarde Pale Ales to share for anybody who helps pick up trash during the rounds. (no dirty underwear will be picked up this time - I promise)
BIRDIE BUTTON

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Players Pack for all Ams.  One of my goals for this tournament was to keep costs low.  Players pack will consist of 1 Innova disc and 1-2 Defiance beers after the tournament to those of legal age.  ID will be required.

Round 1 will have a 'Win your card, Win a prize'  for both Ams and Pros

Round 1 prizes will be a $10 gift certificate for Sunflower Outdoor & Bike on Mass Street in Lawrence.  They carry multiple disc lines, plus outdoor clothing, quality bikes, climbing gear, etc.

Working on possible Round 2 CTP prizes.

Cost structure breakout:

$2 - PDGA fees
$15 - player pack
Rest - payouts.

For example, $27 Advanced.
$10 will go towards payouts for additional merchandise

Innova Discs ordered:

Gummy Champion Glow Destroyer
GStar TeeBird3 (T3)
Champion Glow Roc3
Yeti Pro Aviar
DX Roc

XT Nova  Sorry, this had to be cut from the order.

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Centennial Chain Crash presented by Grip Equipment

A PDGA C-Tier Sanctioned Tournament

2 rounds of 18 holes at Centennial Disc Golf Course, Lawrence, KS

Check in between 7am and 7:50 am
Players’ Meeting at 8am.  Tee off as soon as meeting is over.

Open - $42
Pro Masters / Grand Masters $32
Pro Women $32

Advanced $27
Intermediate $22
Amateur Women $22
Recreational (trophy only) $17

Non-PDGA members add $10

Need at least 3 people to create division except for Women and Recreational divisions.

This is going to be cool:
$5 Grip Bag Ace Fund. 

Courtesy of Grip Equipment

Ace fund consists of 2 different Grip bags, the A14 and the C14 bag.  The bags will be given regardless of aces hit.  If only one ace is hit, they choose which bag.  If 2 or more aces are hit, than those people will have a CTP contest after the last round for the bags.  If no one hits an Ace, then all who have paid in to the Ace Grip Bag Fund will participate in a CTP for the bags.  Both bags will be given out through those that participate in the Ace Bag Fund

Up to $250 added cash to Pro Divisions. *$10 added per player up to $250.

REGISTRATION:
http://dgscene.com/CCC-GripEq2014

SPONSORS:
Grip Equipment
http://grip-eq.com/

TriLion Studios
http://www.trilionstudios.com/

Innova Champion Disc Golf
http://www.innovadiscs.com/

Sunflower Outdoor & Bike
http://sunfloweroutdoorandbike.com/

Defiance Brewing Company
http://www.defiancebeer.com/






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Old Pike / Re: Old Pike Glow League
« on: October 07, 2014, 05:04:43 PM »
Singles or doubles? Cost?

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