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There will be several, we just don't have firm dates yet.  UPDATE----we put the baskets in the ground Saturday night in the longest placements.  Practice basket and hole 9 are still not installed.  We are constructing a raised basket placement on nine before placing anchors.  Please keep in mind the course isn't finished and is VERY rough right now.  Plenty of finishing touches left.

We are shooting for labor day weekend.  Odds are there will still be some minor work ongoing at that point, but the baskets should be in the ground by then.

It is like the Longview Park course at Perry Lake, not to be confused with "Longview Lake".  I'm not even sure if Longview Lake has a course or not?

The Bloomington Park course is separate from the state park course.  The Bloomington course is on the west side of Clinton Lake in Bloomington Park and is operated by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (Federal).  The Mowery's Meadows course is operated in Clinton State Park by the Kansas Dept. of Wildlife, Parks and Tourism (State). 

Basically, the Corps owns all the land around the lake, but the state (KDWPT) manages Clinton State Park and a large portion of the wildlife area on the west side of the lake.  There are also large portions that the Corps manages in-house.

We have separate federal and state rangers, some variations in rules, etc.    Just wanted to clarify because this seems to generate a bit of confusion.

As for a course update on the Bloomington course, here is where we are at---

Teepads are installed.  95% of clearing is done.  Baskets are 99% assembled.  68 of 73 anchors are installed. (5) foot bridges need constructed (lumber and equipment are purchased).  Signs are in design phase but will have a several month delay.

As was speculated in earlier posts, there will be some major similarities to the Longview Course at Perry Lake.  Same baskets (besides color), but with 1 extra placement per hole.  Less remote location and slightly different topography.  Abundant parking, camping, restrooms, and a nice swimming beach adjacent to course.  Hope this helps.

General Banter / Re: Possibility of a new course at Clinton Lake
« on: July 22, 2013, 02:57:21 PM »
I have attached an aerial view of the park in question.  Also, restrooms, showers, camping, beach, etc. are all in close proximity.

General Banter / Possibility of a new course at Clinton Lake
« on: July 22, 2013, 02:33:47 PM »
The Corps of Engineers is looking for partners that would be interested in partnering to build a new course within Bloomington Park at Clinton Lake.  Partnership can be anything from volunteering, equipment, maintenance, etc.  If the club or any other local business would be interested in this please message me or call my office at 816-389-2416.  Thanks.

The two courses at Clinton are on the state managed area.  All the land around the lake is owned by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (who I work for), but is not entirely managed by us.  That area that contains the courses is managed by Kansas Dept. of Wildlife, Parks, and Tourism.  As that is their leasehold, it would be up to them to update the area.  My suggestion would be to let the state park know if there is a public desire for updating those courses.  Maybe with enough public input there will be a renewed interest in maintaining the courses.

     The directional signs between each hole have been installed.  Tee signs should be here within a week, hopefully installed within two weeks.  The course is currently set at the long placements.  The course should also be mowed and trimmed this week.  FYI the campground is now open for the season if anyone is interested.
      I have taken a position at Clinton Lake, so I will no longer be in charge of the course at Perry.  Please contact the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Perry Lake with any future questions or concerns about the course.  The office number is 785-597-5144.  Thanks to all those who put in some work on the course.

« on: March 12, 2013, 07:27:47 PM »
Dogs are required to be on a leash since this is within a federal park. FYI it is a long, hilly course and there is no fresh water there this time of year. You may want to bring a drink for the dog if you decide to take it along. That or there is a pond on hole 15. Let me know what u guys think, and keep in mind it is still a work in progress.

« on: March 12, 2013, 11:54:08 AM »
Just wanted to let everyone know that the course at Perry Lake is now playable.  The baskets are finally in the ground.  The tee signs have been designed, but have not been delivered yet.  There are also still a few odds and ends that need wrapped up like trail steps, etc. Come out and give it a try and let me know what you think. 

General Banter / Re: PERRY COURSE WORK DAY
« on: April 29, 2012, 02:52:24 PM »
Unfortunately, only two people showed up to the workday.  Myself and the two others got quite a bit of work done, but do to the poor showing there is still plenty of things that need done before we can get this thing ready to play.  To volunteer, please contact the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Perry Lake Project at 785-597-5144.

General Banter / Re: PERRY COURSE WORK DAY
« on: April 27, 2012, 03:29:54 PM »
Just a reminder that tomorrow is the workday at the new course at Perry.  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

« on: April 05, 2012, 03:42:25 PM »
We will be having a work day on the Perry course on Saturday April 28th, starting at 8:30 am.  Necessary tasks include removing small diameter woody brush, pole pruning, dragging branches, minor tree clearing, etc.  Weedeaters with a blade and chainsaws will be the most useful tools to finish up this clearing to get everything up and running.  Rakes, polesaws, etc. will also be useful.   

This course has approximately 97-98% of the course cleared.  The remaining clearing is predominately on rocky hillsides consisting of small buckbrush that needs removed so we can continue to spray the area with chemical.  There are also a few areas where trees have been dropped, but still need cut up and piled so we can burn them.  There is very little standing timber that needs removed.  We would  like to get everything cleared well enough so that we can continue to maintain it easily without putting in tons of man hours on the course.

As a side note, one of the reasons that this course has taken so long to get installed  is the lack of manpower available for this project.  There are only three Corps of Engineers Park Rangers at Perry, and we have 40,000 acres of land and water to manage.  This includes about 600 campsites, numerous parks, 10,000 acres of agricultural leases to administer, etc.  We are spread very thin, so these work days are vital to getting this course installed.  Please do not think that we have lost interest in this course, as I personally have put hundreds of hours into this project.  We do not want to just slap baskets in the ground and call it good.  Our thinking is that if we get people to have a positive experience the first time they play it, then they will want to come back. 

Directions: From the US 24 Hwy in Perry, take Ferguson Road North approx. 7 miles to 86th street.  Turn left (west) on 86th and continue about 1.5 miles, the road will curve to the south and be renamed Hamilton road.  Continue about 1 mile south to the course.  The course will be directly west across the road from the Grainery Saloon. Park along the road.  If you have questions, please contact Ranger Kyle Broockerd at 785-597-5144 or 785-215-4216.  Thanks.

General Banter / Re: Courses you never played before
« on: September 21, 2010, 08:38:05 AM »
Hello everyone, to clear up a little confusion on the Perry Lake Course:
1.  clearing is still not 100% complete
2.  Pads are poured
3.  Parking area needs to be completed
4.  Baskets and benches need to be installed

Due to the MASSIVE amount of clearing and the difficult terrain involved, it has taken much longer than anticipated.  In addition, one of the bridges is temporarily out that we use to travel to that park.  From our office it takes 35-40 minutes to get there if you are hauling equipment.  Needless to say that cuts into your work time. Since the camping season is winding down we should have much more time to dedicate to the course, so that should help immensely.  For any other information or to volunteer please feel  free to call the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Perry Project at 785-597-5144.

General Banter / Re: Lake Perry Course Pics Update
« on: September 21, 2010, 08:22:38 AM »
There is still some work to be done on this course before we can get it open.  We are going to have some workdays this fall and winter with the goal being to open it next spring. Hopefully the weather is a little kinder this year, with less snow to contend with.  If anyone would like some more information or would like to help out, please feel free to call the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Perry Project office at 785-597-5144. 

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