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General Banter / Stance Violation (jump putt) at the 2014 Memorial
« on: May 12, 2014, 03:31:34 PM »
I was watching this video of the 2014 Memorial, Round 1:

At 3:52 into the video I saw Nate Doss throw a jumping putt.  I was curious why no one saw/called him on this?  I thought maybe he was warned off screen, so I continued watching.  At 10:45, I see again what looks like a jumping putt  thrown by Nate Doss. 

PDGA Rule 802.04, Throwing From a Stance, B, "When the disc is released, a player must: 1) Have at least one supporting point that is contact with the lie". 

Am I misinterpreting this rule, or is this a case of no one noticing, or wanting to call him on it?

Shawnee Mission / Tue League Still happening?
« on: August 13, 2013, 09:44:04 AM »
Is the Tue League still happening out at SMP?  I don't see any results posted since June?

Found and Lost / Lost Blue Blizard Wraith at Legacy hole 8
« on: July 29, 2013, 02:06:49 PM »
Lost it Saturday morning.  Should be to the Right of the big tree in the rough.  I looked for about 10 minutes and couldn't find it.

I thought I would throw out this topic to some of the more experienced players out there to see how everyone handles this.  Here is some background on me and the group of people I usually play with.  I have only been playing the sport for a few years, and started playing with the goal of having fun, and doing something healthier than sitting on the couch.  When I started I didn't have a clue what I was doing, often throwing putters off the tee, and drivers on the approach.  I threw multiple discs per lie, played the disc where it lied, used gimmie's etc... as things have progressed and my skill level has increased as well as my knowledge of the sport, I began playing more legit.  By legit I mean, no mulligans, keeping score, etc... Naturally as my group also increased in skill level (we all started playing about the same time) we began getting more competitive, to the point now where we all have Bag Tags, play in tourneys, play 3-4 times a week, etc... 

While I am by no means a professional disc golfer, I have joined the PDGA and the KCFDC and have read the PDGA rule book.  Here is the 6 million dollar question:

Are PDGA rules generally to be applied during each round of golf, be it casual, league, or tournament?  I.E. if five or six guys play regularly and we are playing competitively (Tags) should all the PDGA rules be enforced? 

The following scenario developed during a recent casual but competitive round: Player 1 throws OB on the very first throw of the game.  The other players note this is OB, enforce the penalty stroke and drop/re-throw.  Later on during the round, player 1 notices the other players throwing out of turn.  Player 1 gives a warning not to throw out of turn.  Subsequent violations are also noted, and further warnings are given.  Several holes later, player 1 throws into a tree and has to spend a few minutes looking for his disc.  Instead of helping the player look for his disc since he is obviously the away player, the other players continue to play the hole ahead of the away player, thus throwing out of turn.  Since multiple warnings had been given, Player 1 calls for a penalty stoke to be assessed to the players who had violated the courtesy rule of throwing out of turn.  Instead of accepting the extra stroke, the other players decline this penalty stroke and bring up excuses such as "we are not PDGA members", "this is not a tournament", "the rules were not announced prior to the beginning of the round", etc...  basically whining :) 

Technically I could have actually enforced any number of other courtesy rules for "throwing minis", "advancing on the fairway beyond the away player", "practice throws" (throwing multiple discs from the same lie (non announced provisional throws)) or "shouting".

The way I see it, since we were playing a competitive round, PDGA rules should have been in effect (OB is always enforced, why not other PDGA rules).   

Just curious how other players observe the rules.  Does everyone announce that PDGA rules are in play?  If they are not announced, are none enforceable; including OB?  Again, I'm talking about competitive rounds where there is something at stake such as tags, not practice rounds. 

Found and Lost / Lost brand new (3rd throw) PDGA Stamp ESP Stalker
« on: June 10, 2013, 04:05:55 PM »
Black disc with gold PDGA stamp.  I just got this disc with my PDGA subscription and subsequently lost it in the woods at Rosie.  I think it was hole 2, grip locked and turned it over hard into the woods.  I stomped around in the brush and all the way down under but was not able to find this disc.  Name and number are not on it because it's a black disc and all I have is a black sharpie :)  If you find it and want to return it, that would be cool.  If so sad :( 

Found and Lost / Lost at Rosie 16 or 17 (over the privacy fence)
« on: April 30, 2013, 10:47:29 AM »
Two weeks ago, I lost a Blizard Wraith (yellow) over the new wooden privacy fence at Rosie.  I was hoping some good soul dropped it by the disc return, or gave it to someone.  Should have my name and number (may be worn off a bit, but it's there).  Perhaps Cujo ate it, and if he did, I hope it gives him gas!  If anyone finds it let me know.

Found and Lost / Millennium Disc Found at #7 Legacy
« on: May 18, 2012, 08:33:27 AM »
In the "jungle" while I was hiking through the posion ivy looking for my Valk that I threw all the way in the creek :)  Describe the disc, and I'll get it back to you.

Found and Lost / Lost at Swope league on Tuesday - Champ Groove
« on: April 05, 2012, 09:50:58 AM »
Sunburst Tie-Dye Red, Yellow, White...  Second disc in a week.  I would really like to have this one back.  My name and number are on the back of the disc.  If you find it, just drop in the disc return at the clubhouse and I'll pick up next league night.  Thanks!

Found and Lost / Lost Champ Road Runner at Legacy or Phill
« on: March 27, 2012, 08:08:29 AM »
Somehow I lost my Champ Roadrunner on Sat.  Played phill then legacy.  Tye-Dyed Blue, Red, White.  My name and number are on the back.  Thanks!

General Banter / Old and new courses
« on: February 16, 2012, 03:50:44 PM »
As a kid I used to go to Oceans of Fun all the time.  I remember that by the water slides, there used to be a disc golf course.  Does anyone know what happened to that course, or if it's still around? 

I also have heard rumors of a new course going in Belton, so I looked around for more info on that.  Nothing about disc golf, but I did find out that the ball golf course is located at 4200 bong ave...  seriously?  Only in Belton! 

Found and Lost / Lost star roadrunner @ legacy
« on: June 13, 2011, 08:58:11 AM »
Somewhere between holes 6 and 9 my road runner must have fallen out of my bag.  Went to throw it on 9 and it was gone.

Found and Lost / Lost Champ Groove (Tie-Died) Legacy #8
« on: May 31, 2011, 11:35:33 AM »
My nemisis hole.  The big tree at the bottom of #8 at Legacy Park has consumed more of my time that I care to admit.  I've thrown discs into the tree, and all around it.  Before the rough was mowed last week the weeds were almost waist tall.  Somewhere in that mess, I lost my 175 Champ Groove.  I throw RHBH and my disc ended up in the rough to the Right of this hole.  My name and number is written on the back should anyone find this disc. 

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