« on: December 04, 2014, 10:41:45 AM »
Ugh... the GBO has an embarrassingly small amount of space for women. I think Liz was talking about wanting to sign up for intermediate women, but the division was already full. There are no KC women, whose names I recognized, that were signed up for the GBO. In particular the Intermediate Women group is already full with zero players from Missouri. This means that for an expected (read full) registration of 900 players that only 7.5% (68 - 20 open, 24 advanced, 24 intermediate) of their cap space is devoted to women players.
Tank, I think Crispian is trying to highlight some individual sentiments that appear to be more predominate than they should be. I imagine it feels somewhat similar to how I felt when I first started showing up to league. I felt out of place. I knew that I was going to throw much shorter distances, I knew that I was going to take 20 more strokes, and I knew that - from my perception - I would be slowing down the group. I would occasionally play up, only to have the opportunity to play with better plays. Not so that I could have advice solicited to me (which I would occasionally accept) but to learn from watching. I've heard people vocalize frustrations with slow play, I do it myself sometimes. There are women out there who would absolutely crush me in the short game, and the pros of course who would just beat me hands down. Even if you look at some league cards it becomes evident that some semblance of "ranking" is taking place and if you want to be placed on a "lead" card you almost need to request it.
Tank, I don't think you're a guilty party in any of this, and while I've never played with you, know that you're pretty inclusive in wanting people to play and just love the sport. Speaking of women who play Downunder, Amy Crowe beat me by a couple strokes DU during the Club Championships.
There are numerous women who throw discs in Kansas City, however, most of them shy away from club and main events and spend their time playing with friends in a more casual environment. The Divas, as I understand them, are a pretty social group. They run their own league, they have their own tags, they have their own facebook group. Why should they register and play club events only to play with the same people that they can on any other day of the week?