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Huge THANK YOU to the Kansas City Wide Open Tournament Director, Dick Parker, for all his volunteer hours to make this, the highest attended, world class event, KCWO ever.  WELL DONE, Sir!!! 

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Barter Town / Re: Ranger or Grip Bag Wanted
« on: June 18, 2015, 10:37:11 am »
... Player packs in DG are off the rails compared to other sports, ...

^^^^ this.  PDGA really messed up requiring sanctioned events to provide a certain % of entry fee back to AM players. 

IMO,  AM events should cost ~$20. Maybe you get a disc, a shirt or towel, plus some random sponsor related items (samples, coupons, etc),  for showing up.  Play for trophies/medals. 

Several things would happen, if current AM coddling process was ceased.  First, massive backlash.  Get over it.  Then ratings based events, for cash, would be the norm. Wouldn't you rather compete for cash against players of comparable skill?  Remember it's the ProfessionalDGA, y'all are members of.  I think more people would compete if there were ratings based events.  Also more people would begin to dabble in competitive events because they wouldn't have to be concerned with competing against Joe-980-sandbagger.

How much fun do you all have at the club championships where, for day 2, you're sorted by score from day one and have a chance to win your pool?  That's how a rating based event would work, except you're sorted into pools by rating before the event begins.  if you're joe-980-sandbagger, no playing in some seniorpoobahlegends division, even if you are umptysix years old.  At 980 rating you'll play against others in the neighborhood of your rating.

The competitive landscape in disc golf is broken.  There really isn't AM divisions in PDGA events.  We have cash based Pros and merchandise (sell it online) based Pros. Would many Ams be pissed if things were run the way I suggest.  Heck yes. Change is hard. But in the long run it would grow the competitive side of the sport.

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Barter Town / Re: Ranger or Grip Bag Wanted
« on: June 16, 2015, 11:28:33 am »
The best players pack: 
 
* The buzz of excitement one feels at entering such a large and prestigious tournament.
* The big crowds at the event.
* Knowing that the best pros are in town to do the exact same thing as I am. (Well, except they throw half as many times as I do.)
* Getting to watching the final 9 on Sunday afternoon, because B tier ends Sunday morning.
* Seeing all the vendor and promotional booths.
* Playing on courses that are much more groomed (and a hell of a lot harder) than usual, with painted markings, OB ropes, fresh mulch around the tees, and so on.
* The smiles on the faces of all the people having so much fun.
* Becoming a part of the shared memory of a great event.

++

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Swope / Re: Swope League 2015
« on: June 12, 2015, 11:36:20 am »
Don't mean to dowse the fire of excitement for gold layout next Tuesday.  But... there is little chance all the rope/string OB will be setup in time for league, if they are waiting on a fresh mow Monday, instead of setting it up this weekend. It could happen if Chris pre-flags the OB right after the mow, has several volunteers helping and they plan on working on it Monday evening and Tuesday afternoon.  Gold pin layout will be there. It just won't have all the added OB.

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Barter Town / Re: Ranger or Grip Bag Wanted
« on: June 12, 2015, 10:57:36 am »

Better yet.

No Lat64CAMO?  It's the KCWIDEOPEN for goodness sake.  Since the players pack may be of less subsistance compared to DD GBO, ante~ up!!!


Better yet, rather than playing disc golf tournaments for the stuff, don't. 

Instead of getting what an event organizer chooses to hand out to you, for your entry fee, go to the disc golf retailers and buy the stuff directly from them.  You'll get exactly what you want and will actually save money doing so.

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Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2015
« on: June 08, 2015, 04:30:12 pm »
Thank you Tracy for creating, running and maintaining the event. Also, Thank you to Joe for once again keeping the West Side in the Winning circle.

As for the purposed change, why not do both doubles rounds on Saturday and 1 round singles on Sunday. We can do Sunday at like 12pm so people can sleep in and not have to devote that much of their time on Sunday, the day before they have to go back to their jorbs? Ribblet anyone? eh...

The 16 doubles matches (the two formats) hosted by one side and the 16 singles matches hosted by the other. Balances out the points available on each hosts course.  If that was implemented, next year would be all the Doubles matches hosted by West Side on Saturday and Singles hosted by East Side on Sunday. Or vice versa? *shrugs* This seems like an even better idea than swapping the days that the doubles matches are played on.  Dick, do you want to Captain for West and/or run the event in 2016 to see that this gets into the approval process.  :)

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General Banter / Re: Cicadas
« on: June 08, 2015, 12:21:05 pm »
The 13 year ones seems to be the ones making the buzzing sound.  It's the 17 year ones with the insanely loud weEEEEEEEEEOOoo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOFCoWOU3no

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Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2015
« on: June 08, 2015, 09:57:14 am »
I like the idea of changing the Saturday Round next year to Best Shot Doubles.  That way you get to play a full round on day one, and it leaves the quicker Alt. Shot Round for Day 2, when you are playing 2 rounds on the same day.  If nobody has any objections, then the East side can host Best shot Doubles next year on Saturday.

After listening to the reasoning for this proposed change, I think it's the right move, as well.  It really would make the event flow smoother and be less time constrained on Sunday. Officially, we should allow the 2016 Captains and next year's event director make the final call for that change. 

That said, I am passing the reigns of the Team Challenge over to the club. The KCFCD BoD will select an event director each year going forward.  I will be posting a list of responsibilities for the TD before 2016.  It really isn't a difficult event to run.  So if you're interested in running the Team Challenge, please let someone on the BoD know.

Thanks to all of you that have embraced the Team Challenge and elevated it to an annually anticipated event of friendly but fierce competition.

Cheers,

Tracy

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Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2015
« on: June 08, 2015, 08:39:00 am »
Edit:  Isaac H. played for West, and Bowen S. played for East.

Corrected.  Thanks Joe.

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Tournaments / Kansas City Team Challenge - 2015 Final results
« on: June 07, 2015, 06:28:53 pm »
West Side wins their 3rd Kansas City Team Challenge in a row in a well fought battle with the East Side, who clawed their way back into contention during the Sunday matches.

Best Shot Doubles:
1 - (W) Chris N. / Justin S. vs(E) CD S. / Ryan K.A/S
2 - (W) Peter B. / Isaac H.over(E) Zeke H. / Anthony M.3&2
3 - (E) Mike T. / Jake B.over(W) Tracy W. / Steve T.3&1
4 - (E) Frank W. / Jamie B.over(W) Arturo V. / Kelly B.3&1
5 - (E) Shanan C. / Dave V.over(W) Marc W. / Pete C.3&2
6 - (W) D. Loomis. / Justin A-T.over(E) Jay C. / Kevin W3&2
7 - (W) Bobby V. / Dick P.over(E) Greg U. / Steve D.2&1
8 - (E) Jose O. / Bowen S.over(W) Joe H. / Cooper A.1up
SCORE
West - 3.5  vs   East - 4.5

Singles:
1 - (E) Ryan K.over(W) Pete C.3&2
2 - (E) Anthony M.over(W) Steve T.3&2
3 - (E) Mike T. vs(W) Bryan G.A/S
4 - (W) Lee K.over(E) Zeke H.8&6
5 - (E) Frank W.over(W) Cooper A.1up
6 - (E) CD S.over(W) Justin S.1up
7 - (E) Dave V.over(W) Chris N.8&6
8 - (E) Shanan C.over(W) Kelly B.5&3
9 - (W) Isaac H. vs(E) Bowen S.A/S
10 - (W) Bobby V.over(E) Jake B.7&5
11 - (W) D. Loomisvs(E) Jose O.A/S
12 - (W) Dick P.over(E) Jamie L.5&4
13 - (W) Arturo V.over(E) Greg U.4&3
14 - (E) Travis C.over(W) Tracy W.4&3
15 - (W) Joe H.over(E) Matt C.3&2
16 - (E) Steve D. vs(W) Just A-T.A/S
SCORE
West - 7.0  vs   East - 9.0

FINAL SCORE
West - 16.5  over   East - 15.5

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Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2015
« on: June 06, 2015, 03:07:02 pm »
Rained heavy prior to the round. But by start time the rain had stopped and weather was excellent for the first round of the Kansas City Team Challenge. 

Anthony Martella had the shot of the day on hole #1 (10th hole of this match) by bombing in his teams 2nd shot from near the pond for a 2 to win the hole.

Results of round 1:

1 - (W) Bobby V. / Kevin Z. over(E) Dave V. / Jamie B.5&3
2 - (W) Peter B. / Justin S.over(E) Jamie L. / Bowen S.1up
3 - (E) Ryan K. / CD S.over(W) Kelly B. / Pete C.3&2
4 - (W) Joe H. / Justin  A-T.over(E) Zeke H. / Anthony M.3&2
5 - (W) Chris N. / Nick W.over(E) Frank W. /Greg U.1 up
6 - (W) Isaac H. / Bryan G.over(E) Matt C. / Jose O.4&3
7 - (E) Mike T. / Jake B.over(W) Arturo V. /Cooper A.  3&1
8 - (W) D. Loomis. / Marc W.over(E) Shanan C. / Travis C.5&4
SCORE
West - 6  vs   East - 2

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Tournaments / Kansas City Team Challenge - 2015
« on: June 01, 2015, 09:45:32 am »
The annually anticipated Kansas City Team Challenge is once again upon us!  Schedule of all match play rounds as follows:

Saturday, June 6th, hosted by the Kansas Side at Lakeside Hills, Olathe.
Format: Alternate Shot doubles - pairing draft at 9:30am.  The 1st card of rolling start to tee off by 10:00am.

Sunday, June 7th, hosted by the Missouri Side at Stocksdale Park,  Liberty. 
Morning round format: Best Shot doubles - pairing draft at 9:00am.  The 1st card of rolling start to tee off by 9:30am.
Afternoon round format:  Singles -  pairing draft will begin approximately one hour after final card of morning round is complete. 1st card of rolling start to begin 30 minutes after draft start.

Captains Steve and Joe, please bring print outs (at least 16 copies) describing any and all OB's and special rules to be played on your hosted course.


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WYCO / Re: league on tonight, 5/29/15?
« on: May 29, 2015, 12:54:48 pm »
I missed last week because of an emergency.  I'll miss this week for my sons soccer game.  Probably won't be there next week either; in preparation for the Team Challenge.

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Liberty, MO - Stocksdale Park / Re: OB lines and rules
« on: May 27, 2015, 02:46:58 pm »
If there is a question it should be a group call...how is this any different from a normal round/league?  This isn't a sanctioned event.

No it is not sanctioned, but the Team Challenge is not exactly league night casual either.  I just want everyone on both sides to be perfectly clear what the rules are going in. That way no one on either side can call BS because someone has to make things up on the fly. 

I am certainly not saying the OB tall grass can't be used.  It is totally up to each captain to play the course of their choosing, in the setup of their choosing.  Joe has already told me that he will likely use "tall grass" OB rules at Lakeside, if there is a good defined mow of the fairways prior to the event.  As TD, it doesn't matter to me either way if added OB is used or not. It's not a problem.

However, 'tall grass" will take a little extra effort to define how to make fair and consistent calls across all cards. In most cases it will be obviously in or out. I was just asking for information so it can be made clear to everyone how calls should be handled in the "close call" situations.

Anyway, thanks kujo for the information.  I will be ready to explain to the players how to make the close calls.

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Liberty, MO - Stocksdale Park / Re: OB lines and rules
« on: May 27, 2015, 09:00:20 am »
tall grass OB

Are all of these areas clearly marked and definable and/or without a doubt identifiable?  If not physically marked with paint, string or such, what constitutes "tall grass?"  6", 12", 18"?   I assume Steve is going to use this layout for the Team Challenge, June 7th.  As TD of the event, I'd like to know how all these OB's will be defined so that they are called out clearly prior to the event. That will help resolve, in a fair and consistent manner, any disputes, that may arise during the event.  If Steve isn't going to use all these added "tall grass" OB's, then the matter is moot.

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