I should probably explain myself a little more concerning the "who cares" comment. What I meant was, who cares if they choose to play in a lower division. My last statement "what breeds winning? more winning!" was meant to say that allowing new players to have success and win (in intermediate or novice or rec or jr) will motivate them and give them confidence to continue and grow as a competitor and be a winner. I'm not saying I recommend eliminating divisions, I'm saying that I agree with Utz that if you only had one AM division then this issue of people getting called bagger and alienating them would end.