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Smithville / Next Meeting February 18th, 2010 (9:00 am)
« on: February 10, 2010, 10:57:38 AM »
Moving up the ladder in the Parks Department- I meet with the Park Director on the 18th of this month.

Will show him and the team all that has been done, all the support you guys have shown and come up with a plan of action for what is next.

I hope he will be impressed with the quality of our submissions...cause we really do have some very fine stuff to show the team.

Stay tuned boys and girls...I update you all after the meeting.

Dan  8)

General Banter / Need Jenkins Photos Only!
« on: February 09, 2010, 05:35:06 AM »
I am helping the Jenkins Family pull together photos from the 2009 Worlds...of Avery, Valerie or the family.

Please email me any good photos that fit the criteria!

Please send email to

Thank you!!!

Dan  8)

Smithville / Smithville Disc Golf Complex
« on: January 13, 2010, 10:10:17 PM »
So let's say the money is not there to build the Complex all in the same year**, and we are thinking of 3 seperate courses, from Pro to Beginner, which course gets put in first and more importantly- WHY!

Please back up your answer with a reason...defend your position!

**I don't know this for a fact yet...just trying to stay a step ahead of the game!

General Banter / I Need Help!
« on: December 23, 2009, 08:39:37 PM »
Ladies and Gentlemen,

I need to show the Smithville Park people the interest level is high for the new course(s) set to go in at Smithville.

We are at the critical stage where funding is being decided on.

What I need help on is for all interested parties, go to the Smithville section and write good, positive stuff in the section(s) of your choice.

Together, we just might be able to pull this off!

Thanks in advance to all that jump in with me.

Dan Weinert
Smithville C.C.

Smithville / Smithville Panoramas!!
« on: December 23, 2009, 06:19:51 AM »
Over the holiday, and weather permitting, I have flagged several location for capturing some cool breath taking panoramic shots of some of the cooler areas of the proposed Smithville Disc Golf Complex.

Check back here boys and gonna likey!

Dan  :o

Smithville / Smithville Disc Golf Design Guidelines (12/2009)
« on: December 19, 2009, 04:42:37 PM »
Smithville Disc Golf Design Guidelines (as a Word doc

The following information check list is for all persons wanting to submit a course design for the proposed Smithville Course- (gps to Little Platte Park entry- Lat-  39°25'8.92"N, Long-  94°33'18.52"W )

Things to keep in mind-

1.   Fully understand and utilize the PDGA_CourseDesignGuides2009.pdf file located here. (

2.   Fully understand and utilize the PDGA_AcreageChart.pdf file located here. (

3.   Fully understand and utilize the PDGA_ParGuidelines.pdf located here. (

4.   Fully understand and utilize the PDGA_SkillGuides2009.pdf located here. (

5.   Re-read and fully understand the entire post in this Forum- A Checklist For Good Course Design (

6.   Design course to be safe for both players and non-players who may pass near or through the course.

7.   Design course with the potential for multiple configurations to serve not only beginners but players with advanced skills; consistent with the budget and design needs.

8.   Design a well balanced course with a wide range of hole lengths and a good mixture of holes requiring controlled left, right and straight throws.

9.   Utilize elevation changes and available foliage as well as possible. Take care to minimize potential damage to foliage and reduce the chances for erosion.

10.   Are you planning for multiple t-box locations? If so, can they be added later? (if budget allows)

11.   Are you planning for multiple pin locations? Does your design include them from the start?

12.   Have you remembered a Practice Basket? Is it by the Parking Area?

13.   Speaking of parking, have you designed your course with the available parking lots in mind? Is there a chance of the cars being hit with the worst possible throw imaginable?

14.   Have you kept bathroom locations in mind?

15.   If you have shots over the water, did you plan or leave room for a safe route?

Things to do-

16.   Walk through with Dan Weinert and/or read list of specific course guidelines published later on this forum. (Areas to avoid, picnic benches that can or cannot be moved, proposed paved paths, sacred grounds, neighborhoods, ball golf course, wet lands, shelter houses, play grounds, ditches, etc.) (I need one more meeting with the Clay County Park personnel to wrap this up)

17.   Using the basic acreage amount of 85 acres, design a course (or courses) best utilizing the available land. (Two, three or four courses, each with a higher degree of difficulty, phased in if needed) Which course comes first?

18.   Fill out the Design form for each course you are proposing. Be as complete as possible for all the info requested on this form. (SmithvilleDiscGolf_CourseDesign_Worksheet.xls) located here. (

19.   Photo document your entire layout. (T-pad view, basket view and any interesting obstacles along the way) (Power Point presentations would be a nice, professional touch here)

20.   Prepare overhead map, to scale for each course you are proposing.

21.   If chosen, help with the layout & design of course maps and score cards.

22.   Working with Dan Weinert, gps your entire course, from start to finish.

23.   Be prepared to answer these questions-

     a.   Have I utilized this land to its fullest?
     b.   Will people want to come play here?
     c.   If so, what type of player? (Newbie, Advanced, Pros, etc)
     d.   What will players remember most after playing here?
     e.   Is there ANYTHING negative about your design? If so, what?

24.   Be prepared to discuss/defend your decisions about your designs.

25.   What are you expecting for compensation for your services designing this course?

26.   DEADLINE- FEBRUARY 1, 2010

This post has been locked...please comment in the Designers Section!!!


Water Works / Gonna get me a H2O fix!
« on: December 15, 2009, 03:27:33 PM »
At the park now...just waiting for Bubba as usual!!!

Dan  8)

General Banter / Name this Hole!
« on: December 14, 2009, 02:45:46 PM »
South side of lake...

Over 300+ degree view...of blue water!!!

Kinda scary but not real scary...


PS- Topic kinda scares nice guys!!!

General Banter / 1st Official Walk through of Paradise!!!
« on: December 11, 2009, 07:38:02 AM »
1st Official Walk through of Paradise!!!

Sunday, Dec 13th, 10:00 am SHARP!!!

Meet at the Toll Booth. If you arrive late and want to find my cell at 816-812-6265 and I will tell you where we are at.

Directions are super easy...

Take 169N out of downtown (Broadway Bridge) to Smithville. Stay on 169N to 180th Street. Turn right and follow the signs to the Paradise Point Silly Ball Golf Course!

Come on into the Park (NOT the Ball Golf Course) and wait by the Toll Booth. (I'll be in the black truck)

Not sure what all we will get accomplished but it would be awesome to start thinking of our land...a couple of guys already have several hours of recon under their belt!

Hope to see you all there. If you miss Sunday...we will have 1 more official Walk through later in the week.

Disc Golf in Smithville...It's Gonna Happen!!!

Dan  :o :o :o

Smithville / A Checklist For Good Course Design
« on: December 09, 2009, 07:20:46 AM »
A Checklist For Good Course Design

This article originally appeared in the Spring 1998 issue of Disc Golf World News

So let's say you've recently designed a disc golf course. Or maybe a year ago. Or maybe you want to evaluate your local course with an eye toward possible redesign. You want to know if you (or the original designer) did the job right. First we need to decide what "doing the job right" means.

Basically, designing a disc golf course involves picking where the tees and greens go. If you're lucky, whoever owns the land might let you plant trees in areas that are too open, or cut trees in areas that are too tight. We generally don't get to build hills and ponds as ball golf architects do; we don't even get to build big tee and green areas, except in rare cases. We just get to decide where the tees go and where the baskets go. Simple, but not necessarily easy.
The course designer's job should be to make not just a good course, but THE BEST POSSIBLE COURSE out of the available land. There are literally hundreds of possible holes on any site. You have to pick the 18 (or 9) that fit together to provide the best golfing experience for the player. To make the best possible course, you need to use the principles of risk/reward/strategy (which we discussed last time), variety/balance (which we'll get to another time), and the intangible quality that I call "character," "personality," or even "flavor."

The right way to do this will take a lot more room then we have here now, but this checklist will help you determine if you've done the best possible job. If your course is a 9-holer, you can cut most of the following numbers in half.

•Did you consider the prevailing winds when you laid it out?
•Did you spend at least 8-10 hours just walking the site, getting familiar with every angle, every tree, every possible fairway, every possible hazard before you started designing the course?
•Did you look at the site after a good rain to see where water collects and what areas stay muddy?
•Did you look at the site during peak use hours to see where people like to picnic and play?
•Are there fairways that aim north, south, east, and west, as well as directions in between?
•Determine the unique topological or vegetative areas of the site. Did you find a good way to incorporate them (or, where necessary, avoid them)?
•Suppose someone asked "Why did you put this tee here instead of twenty feet to the left, right, front, or back?" Would you really have a good answer? How about the baskets?
•Pick the 3-4 most scenic spots on this site. Will a player ever stand on any of these spots during a typical round?
•Can you play the course using the same drive on 6 different holes?
•On any hole, can the worst possible shot land in a street, playground area, picnic area, or ball field? (One of my rules of course design: imagine the worst shot you can, and someone will find a way to throw one that's worse.)
•Are there at least 12 holes that you would consider good or very good holes?
•Are there at least 6 holes that you would consider substantially different from any holes on any course within 300 miles?
•If you have a hole that's more than 500 feet long, did you consider what would happen if you broke it into two shorter holes? Did you consider combining two consecutive short holes into one long hole?
•Did you spend at least 3 times as many hours in the field as you did designing on paper?
•Did you leave room to move the tees or baskets back in 3-4 years, in case disc technology takes another leap forward?

If you answered "Yes" to questions 9-10, or "No" to any of the other questions, you may have a good course, but you probably do not have the best possible course for this particular site.

These questions should help you understand a few of the simpler techniques of laying out a course, but remember that they do not fully address the most important issues a designer must consider. For centuries, great course design has always depended on creativity and inspiration, and it still does with our new version of the game.

Smithville / Shock and Awe!!!
« on: December 08, 2009, 06:37:35 PM » have heard me rumble about the Smithville Course(s) having Shock and Awe factor.

What does that mean to you?

What could we do to Shock and Awe the disc golf community?

Cooper Arnold suggests we implement some hanging baskets like the East Coast boys are doing (I Likey!!!)

What else can we do to Shock and Awe the disc golf community?

Smithville / Smithville Aces!!!
« on: December 08, 2009, 05:26:09 PM »
Here is the place to post your ACES while playing in any of the Smithville Courses. I do have one confirmed and witnessed Ace to report.

Tim Cox (Smithvillian) hit one a couple of weeks ago.

Photo and details to come!

If you shoot an Ace at Smithville, please have your witnesses sign it in sharpie, take a pic of you and the disc, email it to me or post it yourself...right here!!!

General Banter / Map for Proposed Smithville Course Ready for Viewing
« on: December 08, 2009, 05:11:42 PM »
36 Baskets in Paradise...

See the map and related info here-

Dan  :o

Smithville / 9 Baskets in Paradise
« on: November 20, 2009, 07:22:37 AM »
I know we got some bands out there who are always wanting to showcase their talents...would be AWESOME to get someone to do this version of the famous Eddie Money your mp3's back here if you manange to pull it off.

Come know you can do it!!!

Here are the words-

Got a surprise especially for you,
Something that all of us have always wanted to do.
We've waited so long, waited so long,
We've waited so long, waited so long.

I'm gonna take you on a trip not so far from here,
I've got nine baskets at my course, now baby, we're gonna drink some beer.
We've waited so long, waited so long,
We've waited so long, waited so long.

I've got nine baskets in Paradise,
Won't you pack your discs, we'll leave tonight,
I've got nine baskets in Paradise,
I've got nine baskets in Paradise!

Thanks in advance...can't wait to hear what you come up with!

Dan  8)

Smithville / Call for Disc Golf Course Designers
« on: November 19, 2009, 06:50:24 AM »
Meet with the park people today and recieved some good news- They are offering 3 chunks of land that fit our criteria as possible locations for the big boy course...decisions, decisions, decisions!

I brought up the idea that any designers from the club want might want to take a stab at designing the could look at the photos of the land when they are available, visit the land with me as your tour guide, then submit design proposals based on that. They liked the concept and understand that we must use a designer and not try to go at this alone.

The winning designer would be compensated and would work with me and the Clay Co Park people in bringing this course into fruition.
Some of the land I wanted is in crop lease until 2011 and 2012 but they think they can do some trading with the farmers...take this 40 acres here and give them another 40 somewhere else.

Interested parties should PM me and we will set up a time to meet at the land, go over the photos and turn you loose on your proposals.

Timelime for your initial proposal would need to be close to Dec 15th to Dec 31, 2009 as possible. I need to have things semi-finalized for our proposal to the Park Board sometime in early January.

Disc Golf in Smithville...It's Gonna Happen Folks!!!

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