Is there map layout for the converison courses anywhere? Where the holes ball golf distance?
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There is no way hole 16 is a par 4. Wind is always a factor at Cliff anyways. That's not to discount what you are saying. 16 is a very challenging 3. More often than not, one can not see the pin even after a decent drive (decent meaning somewhere down the fairway - IN BOUNDS!). But par is not supposed to be EASY. It is supposed to be had through a series of perfectly placed shots.