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Cliff Drive / LDO work 2017 needed
« on: August 01, 2017, 01:32:31 PM »
Will be working at getting the course ready for the LDO.  Could use some help on the following areas--
#1-Trash and hillside cleanup.  I plan on meeting with the P&R about this though, so don't do it yet....we may be able to get out from it.
#2-mow the fairway, clear the deris
#3-Clear the hillside, the top shelf, and the wall as best we can
#4-in front of the pad has GROWN so much, need to chop that down a bit.  Mowing the fairways, getting the downed brush to the side
#5-mow/clean around the fairway and pins up top
#7--Clean the hillside of growth, weedwack and mow everything up to #38 pad, take out downed tree from storm (May get P&R on that as well)
#8--Clear out everything, you know the drill on this one!  This is the LDO special spot.
#9--clear out a little so we have VIP Parking

Let me know if you plan to help at any point.  With the MAC this weekend, and the bike races next weekend (holes #2-#8 will be closed) timing is not on my side.

Cliff Drive / League Result July 24 2017
« on: July 25, 2017, 10:00:29 AM »

ACe Fund is at $755 and we will be back at Cliff Next Week, probably playing some of the Lion's Den Layout hole options.  Which means a better chance of an Ace!

Cliff Drive / Monday Night Leagues
« on: May 15, 2017, 10:15:58 PM »
Will be at Cliff again next week...ace fund over $700 next week.

General Banter / Hidden Valley Expansion possibility
« on: March 02, 2017, 03:30:39 PM »
Please take time to fill this out

The more interest we show in wanting disc golf there the better chance it gets looked at favorably!

Tournaments / 2017 Ice Bowl Information
« on: December 13, 2016, 10:32:23 AM »
$35: Gold Entry:
Choice of Ice Bowl disc, 5 mulligans, a commemorative mini set

$25: Silver Entry:
Choice of any DX disc,  a KC Roc, a Champion Tern, Crystal or Elite Z-Buzzz, any DD disc, any GDS dosc; 3 mulligans; and a mini set

$20: Bronze Entry:
Choice of one: Innova DX: Aviar, Roc, Stingray, Teebird. any GDS Putter, DD--Judge, Marshall or Witness, 2 mulligans, a commemorative mini set

Mulligans-$2 each, 3 for $5, 7 for $10, and 15 for $20.
Buy some to use, and buy a few to share, they are great gifts for the friend that
KC Satellite Series Stop #1--Olathe (PC) -Sat 7th @ 10:30
KC Satellite Series Stop #2--P-Hill Sun 8th @ 10:30 AM
KC Satellite Series Stop #3--SMP-Sun 15th @ 10:30
KC Satellite Series Stop #4--BRC-Sat 21st @10:30
KC Satellite Series Stop #5--Rosie- Sat 28th @9 & 1 up top Flex from 9:30-1 DU
KC Satellite Series Finale---Swope 29th--Flex Start 8-10, final 9 ~2:30

Cliff Drive / Course Closure for 2017 Dates
« on: November 22, 2016, 01:56:24 PM »
This will be dates we find out about for Cliff Drive.

General Banter / 2016 KCFDC Elections and Dinner-Saturday at Old Pike
« on: November 07, 2016, 12:36:41 PM »

Club Elections and Annual Meeting Scheduled for November 12!

On November 12, 2016, beginning at 5 pm, the Kansas City Flying Disc Club will hold its annual meeting and Club elections at the Old Pike Country Club, located at 5101 NW Old Pike Rd, Kansas City, MO 64118. This event is free to Club members who RSVP (fill out the form below) and will include a disc Swap Meet/Fly Mart, dinner, distribution of the 2017 KCFDC Club tags (based initially on the results of the Club Championships for those able to compete and then on a first-come, first-served basis for all others), and, of course, the election of new members to the Board of Director’s for the KCFDC. The Swap Meet begins at 5 pm and the dinner and elections will be from 6-8 pm. The Club will be responsible for cleaning up the venue and any attendees willing to remain and help clean will be much appreciated. In addition, the Board will be hosting a flex start event from noon-3pm at Old Pike that day, with all cards teeing off by 3 pm (the Board will provide score cards to those who wish). In addition, Club merchandise will be available for purchase at this event. Visit for more information leading up to the event.

The following Board of Director’s members will be completing their two year terms at the end of 2016: Kelly Babbit (current Board president), Pete Cashen (current Kansas Vice President), Nate Zier (current Missouri Vice President), Crispian Paul (current Secretary to the Board) and Mark Hogins (at-large member). Each year, the members of the Board meet after elections and vote amongst themselves which member will fulfill each position, meaning that the members who remain may not remain in their current roles. With only nine spots on the Board of Director’s, 2017 will be bringing big changes to the Board with five members leaving. If you are interested in joining the Board, are able to attend monthly Board meetings, and are willing to volunteer your time and energy outside of Board meetings, please attend this meeting if at all possible and if not, express your interest in consideration via the current Board of Director’s, whose contact information is available on the website.

Schedule of Events for 11/12/2016
Old Pike Country Club
5101 NW Old Pike Rd, Kansas City, MO 64118
Flex Start One Rounder: 12-3pm (Last card out at 3pm)
Swap Meet: 5-6pm
Dinner: 6:30
Membership Meeting: 7:00
Elections: 7:30
Meeting adjourned: 8:00

General Banter / Cooper Arnold--Apology and thanks
« on: October 17, 2016, 10:15:20 AM »
I wanted to post this because I believe that it is over do.  Cooper has been playing very solid and though this isn't the reason for the post, it reminded me that I want to take time to apologize to him on the forum as well as thank him and congratulate him.

There are a few people that get my blood boiling at times, and Cooper had to take the brunt on what I felt at the time was a warranted conversation (man emotions huh?).  He moved away, he returned, and I wanted to say that I for one noticed a change that I welcomed.  It may be the lack of internet fodder as the culprit, but beyond that Cooper has stepped up and helped out in many areas around town, and I notice it.  I appreciate it, and I for one wanted to say thanks, and apologize for my tone in the past on the internet.

I have re-read some of the heated flames we spewed at each other, and it clearly wasn't my best side by any stretch, and I am completely as certain I could have gone a different way to get my message across, so I am ashamed of some of my own comments.

That being said, I wanted to say great play this past weekend as well as throughout the year, and my sincere thank you for your seemingly unselfish help that you have done as I have seen this past year.  I appreciate it, I love seeing it, and by all accounts I should make it known in the public circles that I for one thank you for your help as a perceived vision of mine (I am not delusional I know that my glasses are rose....) may not have reflected that.

I appreciate that you are playing very well also, seeing the scores, and the folks you beat this weekend, it is cool to see!

Congrats, and thank you sir!

In order to volunteer (we would LOVE to have you help please sign up!) all volunteers must sign waivers at

The more the merrier!

Please help plant some trees at WyCo!

Blue Valley / Course Closed Septmeber 16-17 2016
« on: September 06, 2016, 11:04:13 AM »

There will be a bicycle event that will be running through Blue Valley, namely holes 1, 10, 12, 13 on the big course, and about 1/2 of the Executive course.

Any damage to the course will be repaired by the group, but it is a positive activity within the park that we need.

Looks to be a pretty cool event, they are planning about ~150 riders on the course.

Come on out to watch!

Been searching for some things disc golf related on old information.  I ran across this article.  This was at a forum that many disc golfers attended (I believe myself, Ed Gonzales, Dirk Hacker were in attendance at this meeting in particular)  We had already met with the P&R about getting something moving, but this was sort of the starting point to truly look to move some DG in the public forum into the JoCo county parks.  The plans were in place at this point to get SMP as a permanent course, and to move forward with plans to get one at Heritage.  The initial map for Heritage is far from our conversations back in 2002, 2003, but the goal was a DG course and it happened.  This is why having a club in town is so important.  Organizations can share in making things happen.  As people change out of the leadership roles, there are pieces in place to help ensure things don't get lost even when they do.

We have a great club, we have a great organization, and we have many to thank.  Help be a part, do you part and represent KC Disc golf well!

Consultant suggests closing dog, horse areas at SM Park
By:Rob Roberts, Sun Staff Writer    September 25, 2003
A consultant's presentation of proposed master-plan changes for Shawnee Mission Park, 79th Street and Renner Road, on Tuesday was anything but a dog-and-pony show.

The recommendations from Land Plan Engineering, announced during a public meeting at the Tomahawk Recreation Complex in Shawnee, called for moving a popular off-leash dog area out of the 2,000-acre county park and ending the pasturing of horses in the 360-acre Oak Ridge area in the northernmost portion of the park.

Only about 50 horse-owning families and 63 horses currently use the Oak Ridge area, Doug Pickert of Land Plan Engineering told the 100 residents in attendance Tuesday, and his firm feels the area could be better used by being made accessible to the masses through development of hiking and mountain-biking trails there.

Ron Copeland, who pastures two horses at Oak Ridge, didn't disagree that the area should be opened to hikers and bikers. But he said that shouldn't preclude the pasturing of horses there.

"I'm upset that they would recommend doing away with the pasturing," Copeland said. "The horses could be confined in a fourth of the vast area they're in now, and that would allow both the trails and the horses."

Many people currently bring their children to the Oak Ridge area just to see the horses, Copeland said, adding that removing the horses would be removing one of Shawnee Mission Park's attractions.

It would also create a hardship for him personally, he said.

As a captain of the Shawnee Police Department, Copeland said, he has to live within the city of Shawnee, where Oak Ridge represents the only nearby, reasonably priced alternative for pasturing his horses.

In addition to being close to his home, the captain said, the Oak Ridge pastures afford him and other local horse lovers with quick access to the Shawnee Mission Park horse trails, which the consultants say should continue to exist, with or without the pasturing.

Horse owners pay $120 per horse per month to keep their horses at Oak Ridge, Copeland added, and those fees represent more than $80,000 in annual revenue that could be used for other improvements called for by the new master-plan recommendations.

Currently, Pickert said, there is no funding identified for any of the proposed improvements, nor will any of the improvements be set in concrete until they are acted on by the county park board, likely in December.

By then, the consultants should have cost estimates developed for the improvements they are recommending for Shawnee Mission Park, as well as Ernie Miller Nature Center and Heritage Park, both in Olathe.

Public hearings were held last spring to solicit input for new 20-year master plans for those parks, as prescribed by the county's MAP 2020 plan.

Using that input, Land Plan Engineering consultants, with input from county park and recreation officials, developed the "3 Plans for 3 Parks" recommendations that were to be presented during separate meetings for each park between Tuesday and tonight.

One piece of input that the officials didn't bite on was a suggestion last spring that Shawnee Mission Park's off-leash dog area be expanded.

According to Pickert, officials felt the dog area should be removed from the park because, among other reasons, it interferes with the prairie restoration envisioned for the area and the dog feces it generates threatens the water quality in nearby Shawnee Mission Lake.

While dog lovers may not like that development, BMX bicycling and Frisbee golf enthusiasts who spoke at the spring hearings were pleased with other recommendations announced Tuesday.

One recommendation calls for a Frisbee golf course to be developed in a large open area near the main entrance to the park, and another calls for the development of BMX racing and practice sites in the 90-acre former quarry site in the southwest corner of the park.

The master-plan recommendations call for that area to be developed as an extreme-sports complex, where elevated mountain-bike trails would be built and former quarry walls would be used for rock climbing.

Other recommendations for Shawnee Mission Park call for:

* The archery range to be moved from its current location near the southwest corner of the park to a site in the northern portion of the park, where archers would be able to face north, rather than into the sun, and where some Olympic-standard 90-meter target lanes could be included;

* The redevelopment of the multi-use trail area north of the lake with separate hiking and mountain-biking trails that would be less precipitous and, thus, less prone to washing out.

* Development of a mountain-bike trailhead and parking near the Small Lakes area to serve those using the five miles of new mountain-bike trails to be developed north of the lake;

* Rerouting and reconstruction of park roads to provide better connections between various portions of the park and to allow addition of bike lanes.

* Elimination of one of two ball fields in the Walnut Grove area to make room for a wetlands area that would stem the flow of silt running off from nearby residential development into the south end of the lake;

* Improvements to Theatre in the Park, including a new indoor rehearsal and meeting facility, a new pavilion, and expanded restroom and concession areas;

* Extensive prairie restoration; and

* Various other improvements to shelters, picnic areas and the marina area.

For full descriptions of the proposed improvements, visit

©The Johnson County Sun 2003

Cliff Drive / Rain rain go away.....No league 8.29.16
« on: August 29, 2016, 09:19:59 AM »
Too much rain this weekend (with last nights area dumping) we got over 9 inches of rain in 48 hours.  As such no league tonight, we will try again on the 12th as there will be no league on the Holiday next week.

Cliff Drive / 8.22.16 League results
« on: August 23, 2016, 09:42:59 AM »
3 came, 3 played, one won...

Ted K-60

Next week back at Cliff.

Cliff Drive / 8.8.16-No League tonight--Reservoir History
« on: August 08, 2016, 02:57:15 PM »

For your reading pleasure, some History on the Reservoir.....

Filled: The real deal on Northeast’s reservoir

By admin | Posted March 14th, 2012 |

By Michael Bushnell
Northeast News
March 14, 2012

Recently, there’s been quite a bit of talk about the possibility of filling in the old reservoir overlooking Cliff Drive with dirt and creating more usable park green space or an area for mountain bikers to test their skills.

Given the historic structure is again the center of attention for redevelopment, we’d like to offer an historic perspective on the original intent and purpose of the long neglected, yet integral piece of Northeast history.

In 1909, Kansas City’s Fire and Water Commission proposed building a large water reservoir atop the bluff overlooking the burgeoning, industrial East Bottoms. The area required a high rate of water for industrial purposes due to the growing number of new factories and manufacturing operations that had located there over the past 10 years. Breweries, ice houses, railroad yards, all in need of large quantities of industrial water.

The plan, however, languished and wasn’t broached again until 1914, when it was mentioned in a parks department report outlining improvements to the parks and boulevard system for the city. Construction of the massive reservoir was finally undertaken in 1919 at roughly the same time the Waldo water tower was being constructed. Upon its completion in 1920, the new Northeast reservoir, along with the older but smaller reservoir in Observation Park near 20th Street and Jarboe, gave the city an industrial water supply of more than 23 million gallons of water to serve its growing manufacturing base in the East and West Bottoms areas.

The new reservoir overlooking the East bottoms measured 590-feet long by roughly 230-feet wide and had a capacity of 16 million gallons of water. The smaller Holly Street reservoir located in Observation Park near 20th and Jarboe was roughly 300 feet long by 150-feet wide and had a capacity of 7.75-million gallons.

Almost immediately after being put into service in 1920, Northeast’s huge basin was beset with problems. Cracks began to develop along the seams of the poured concrete basin under the immense pressure of the collected water.

Due to a growing population and the need for more modern water delivery techniques, Kansas Citians passed an $11 million bond issue to construct a new water works on the north side of the river, complete with water intakes located on the Missouri River. Prior to the completion of the new facility, the city’s water intake was on the Kansas River, downstream from the stockyards and all the slaughterhouses that dumped their spent fluids and waste into the river.

In 1928, the new water treatment facility went online. Shortly thereafter in 1931, the newly constructed Northeast Pumping Station on Nicholson Trafficway in the East Bottoms was put into service, thereby rendering the Northeast reservoir obsolete. Its contents were drained and it’s been a forgotten piece of Northeast history for more than 80 years.

Over the years, a variety of neighborhood-based adaptive re-use ideas have been floated for the old reservoir. Some of those ideas included an amphitheater, a skateboard park and even an extreme sports venue with half pipes, jumps and rails for riders to test their skills. The old reservoir, however, continues to sit neglected and vacant, waiting for an adaptive reuse plan that will best use its cavernous twin bowls and stunning view of the Cliff Drive Scenic Byway.

Cliff Drive / LDO 2016 Big Course layout
« on: July 29, 2016, 04:10:04 PM »
I am sure there will be a much prettier version but here you go for now!
Hole #1=Play #10 to the middle right placement
Hole #2=Tee from Road go to LONG #18/Practice Pin
Hole #3=Play #11 Short
Hole #4=Tee from the Road to #11 Long Pin
Hole #5=Play Hole #12
Hole #6=Play Hole #13 Short
Hole #7=Tee from the Road and play to #14 Short pin
Hole #8=Tee from #15 Pad and play to #14 Long Pin
Hole #9=Tee from Road and play to #15 Short Pin
Hole #10=Play Hole #16 Short
Hole #11=Tee from #17 pad and play to #18 Pin long left
Hole #12=Play hole #1 to Practice Basket left
Hole #13=Tee from the Road and play to long #1 pin
Hole #14=Play hole #2 Short placement
Hole #15=Play hole #3
Hole #16=Play hole #4 Short
Hole #17=Play hole #5 Short
Hole #18=Play hole #6 Long

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