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General Banter / -Non Disc Golf Content--Weekly Pick'em for Football
« on: September 03, 2008, 09:04:31 am »
$102.00 in total....$6 per week...$5 goes to the weekly prize, and $1 goes
to the overall prize.

I would prefer to get the entire season paid up front, as it makes my life


----- Original Message -----
From: "psilva" <>
To: "John Chapman" <>; "jack lowe" <>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: Folks! Season is about to start!

> So if I remember, it's $5 per week?  pay weekly or entire season?
> ps
> John Chapman wrote:
>> Mike Blossom and Jack Lowe are handling getting new players in the pool
>> this year, and I will be handling the financial side, but you can contact
>> any of the 3 of us, and we'll get you set up.  I'll give everybody a
>> couple of weeks to get their fees paid.  If you haven't paid yet, and you
>> win one of the first weeks, I'll apply the winnings to your balance.
>> Send PayPal payments to:
>> Please make sure you pay directly through PayPal, and not through a
>> credit card, as there is about a 4-5% charge for those transactions, and
>> I don't want to cover those fees myself.
>> Thanks,
>> John Chapman (


Tournaments / City of Fountains-PDGA C-Tier 9/21/08
« on: September 03, 2008, 08:36:58 am »
Sunday September 21st
 Registration 8:15-9:15 @ Cliff Drive
 Players meeting 9:30
 Tee Off 10:00
Cliff Drive Round 1
Blue Valley Round 2

Who should be there-

What does it cost-
Entries will be as follows: (Ace fund will be optional $3 at day of event)

Entry Fees:

Open - $50
All other Pro divisions(Masters, Women, etc...) - $40
Advanced divisions - $30
Intermediate - $20
Recreational - $20
Novice - $20

$3 Ace Fund optional day of event

(If you're not a current PDGA member, add the $10 single event fee to your registration.  If you plan on registering for the PDGA, or renewing, please arrive early!!)

If you should have any other questions, please do not hesitate to call or e-mail me directly.



Cliff Drive / Adopt a hole-looking for you to help
« on: August 27, 2008, 01:39:07 pm »
I am looking for people to adopt a hole or 2.  You would be helpful in getting things ready to put pads in, and making it more accesible for mowers to keep clean.  We are starting to make great strides there, pads are going in soon (I want them sooner than you trust me).

Looking for people to help with the following holes/fairways.
#1-clean the area from the new teeing area to the old teeing area.  Then starting to work on the alternate pin settings which ties into
#2, clean out area to walk to pad from new pin areas, and down along hillside to make more manageable and possibly mow worthy down to fairway existing.  Would like to clear out all honeysuckle up to road.
#3, clean up the cliff side all the way to the top..
#4 keep it cleaned up, start heading NW from lower fairway to clean up for errant shots, possible LONG placement in woods to North of existing long placement.
#5 grow grass, and clean up top area.  WOuld like to have another pin on the North end where (those of you remember the troubled bridge) we used to tee from.
#6 Maintenance, hillside to the West clean it up and make accessible to mowers.
#7 Clean the hillside from the existing pin, clean out deeper to create a longer shot, keep the cliffs clear, and able to use.
#8 clean up the area off the pad to the "stage"
#9 clean up the area that Brandt did that no one has touched since.  Work on a longer setting in the woods about 50' away from the existing pin, but very technical.

That would get us started.  Looking for about 20  people, figure it takes 2 people per hole and I will help where I can.

Let me know what hole is yours!!



Cliff Drive / League Results 8/25
« on: August 26, 2008, 12:38:51 pm »
Well, we had 9 show up tonight that enjoyed some good golf.  The course was still looking good from the LDO, and the scores didn't.......

Only my card with Rick and Dick did not manage to have someone in the hunt as there was a 3 way tie for 1st....then cam Arturo back with his bag, and cash in hand, as the others tried to take the playoff without their bags.....after a battle in futility they finally succumbed and agreed to split the remainder......

Andrew Jewett-57
Brian Gammon-57
Pete Cashen-59
Dick Parker-59
Rick Rothstein-62
Jack Lowe-62
Mark Morales-64 (ANd not late.....)
Steve Hostetler-73

I'll be out there on Monday, would like to start a little early this next lets shoot for 5:30 if we can with the holiday, if no one plans on attending, start letting me know, I can find other things to do!!


Club Archives / Art work? Who wants to do the courses?
« on: August 25, 2008, 10:55:04 am »
I need to have maps created that are similar for all the courses.  Who wants to create this type of art work?  I would need to have examples, and would want all the courses to be available:
Rosedale-Top and Bottom
Water Works
Cliff Drive
Blue Valley
Shawnee Mission Park
Pleasant Hill
Lees Summit
Lake Lenexa (2x)
Swope North
Penn Valley Park

Start by letting me know you are interested.

General Banter / My 1000th post
« on: August 22, 2008, 02:15:37 pm »
This is actually 999, but once I reply to it, it will be 1000th posting..... I think that it means that I have too much time in front of the machine at work from time to time, what do you all think?

Cliff Drive / League 8/18 (Chappy & Rick's Bday!!)
« on: August 22, 2008, 11:30:24 am »
12 out for some fun before the Lions Den is opened!
In a SHOCKING happening, Arturo beat everyone....I know you are all in awe.....
Jack-58 (With a SUHWEET putt to beat Danger in a playoff from the road, he missed, I didn't!!!)
Hart Donation-59
Morales-63 (Lateness will no longer be allowed, daylight is to scarce....)
Bill N-66
Lexi-83 (I mis added your mis added....)

Saturday is on, and then back to league on Monday.  See what happens as you too can be a part of the most centralized disc golf league in Kansas City!!!

Club Archives / Par-how to define @ Worlds
« on: August 21, 2008, 09:33:01 am »
The topic in the other thread is giong adrift.

I personally think that the way that Par is designed is inherent with faults.  We have differing viewpoints on what it should be, but yesterday there was a topic that I was reading that hit it right on the head.
Mark Ritner  wrote:
> "The real reason for the ridiculous scoring relative to ball golf:
putting is way easier in disc golf."That depends on what you define as
a "putt". Shots from the 10 meter line are the equivalent of 4-5 ft.
putts in ball golf. To get similar scoring distributions to ball golf
greens we can simply define our "green" and thereby our "putts" in
such a way as the pro player should take 1-2 shots to get in the
basket without error. A "green" thereby becomes, say, a 150 ft.
circle around a basket without obstacles. The "green" shrinks as
obstacles are introduced. Once we have the proper definition in place
by which to make a parallelism putting in disc golf suddenly isn't any
easier than ball golf."

I am not sure that I agree with the 150' analogy, but the point made is something that I have always thuoght of.  I have long considered the 10 meter line a good barometer, but not a true"green".  I have always felt that a 30' radius should be available to the player, but not as a green, but because it is close enough that it should be open for them to have a chance.  THat doesn't mean that I feel that it is the same as a 4-5' putt, but more like a 10' foot putt.....

What are your true thoughts on Par folks.  The argument probably has been going on longer than you haev been playing this sport.......

General Banter / Disc Golf Wrestler out in Olympics
« on: August 20, 2008, 06:41:23 pm »

I played with Ben last year at the Mid America, he was my partner.....we finished as well as he did alone in the olympics.....bad week to draw me as a partner.......even worse week to draw the guy he lost to though.....

Club Archives / Next Meeting Tuesday August 26th @ River Market @ 7:00
« on: August 18, 2008, 12:52:28 pm »
We will discuss the most recent worlds, and other items.

We need you there to help.

We had planned a night this upcoming Monday, with me running league, I don't want to start late.

Lots of good from K-Zoo, looking to improve in some areas, and steal from them in others.

You can help make history, and it starts now!!!



Cliff Drive / Bike Race 8-9-08-Saturday start #17
« on: August 06, 2008, 05:27:09 pm »
Saturday Morning and all day there is a BIKE RACE, you will have to start at #17, or walk down to get to the course at Cliff, but it is pretty cool to watch, also then be very careful heading to #4 on Saturday.  It will be a little tricky to get to Cliff Drive, but you can get there...

Water Works / 2 Work days planned 9/27 & 10/4
« on: August 06, 2008, 11:12:42 am »
The nieghborhoods around Water Works are planning a workday on the 4th of October.  We want to help.  In order to help them, we should have our own workday the previous weekend to have them help with the cleanup of the debris that we create.  Some of what I personally think needs to be done is as follows:
1-clear out the honeysuckle by the sign in area, chop it all off, maybe replace with actual shrubbery.  Prune the trees around the teeing area.
2-clear out the Honeysuckle around the pad to the right, and clean up the teeing area in general.
3-CLEAR OUT THE AREA TO THE LEFT, it is over grown, and needs to be cleaned deep.  This will allow those errant shots on the way down to be more visible.
5-prune trees up, mulch
6-fix stairs up to pad, they need it bad.  throw grass seed all over......
7-address erosion issues all over (more than this workday will do)
11-clear out stumps by road
12-Walnut trees need to be raised all over and have some actual "lines" put in(same with that silly shot way left, trees need cleaned up to give an actual shot, not just a righty hyzer, unfair shots suck.
13-the area to the right of the tee pad to woods needs mown, chopped, etc.  The area up the hill has been cleared out nicely.  We also should think about the far right top of the hill pin, and creat a couple of erosion areas, built up walls, one with the pin, and another about 30' away.
18-plant some trees, really miss that double mando of a few years back, and just clean up the area, as well as possibly replace the old "stairway" to the original top pin.

Some ideas that I have, please start to share with what you feel may need to be done.



Cliff Drive / League Results 8/4/08
« on: August 06, 2008, 11:00:17 am »
On what some may consider a hot and humid night, 9 players determined that disc golf is just the right thing to do on MOnday at Cliff Drive.

With the work done on the new hole #1 teeing area, and moving #10 into the long position, the determination was made that the not ready for play yet #1 would have to wait.....soon, will come.

With the heat, the throws from many were hard to keep it in the -, and thus the scores showed it:

3-way tie for first, that Hart Donation had to relieve himself from after the first playoff left a tie after 4 extra holes in the heat.  Which meant that Brain Gammon and Jamie Dangers "won" the league.

Brian Gammon-56
Jamie Danger-56
Kevin Hart-56
Jack Lowe-57
Mark Morales-58
Dan Coffman-59
Steve Hostetler-64

No ace was hit, so come on out next monday and try to take some money!

Cliff Drive / League Results 7/28/07
« on: July 29, 2008, 09:29:54 am »
With beautiful weather, 79, not too much wind, the course looks to be in pretty good shape, with the exception of some trash.  Mowers are starting to get the right areas, and we are moving forward.

This will help with the clean up this Sunday at Cliff Drive, if you can come for an hour, it makes a difference.

We will work on:

#1 Where the pad will actually be placed, open up the trail....
#2 Opening for the mowers, and alt#1 pin (last item to work on)
#3 hillside
#5 Deep placement
#8 in front of pad, they cleared out #7 nicely, so we will spend a little time pruning it, but not much!!
#10 Deep placement
#15 New pin placement

We may look at additional holes that with a MAJOR tree down (#6) may allow us to create the hole to come up and out by the water, and then re use the shot that goes around the road that we used to do after the "cliff shot" that had a long walk.  I doubt we get to it, but hey it is a possibility!!



Arturo-50 (with a 6 on #12)
Hart Foundation-50
Matt Hummel-66
Alexi Kontras-77

Will move pins during the workday, so look for a new layout next week!

Course should be awesome!!!

Cliff Drive / Work Day August 3-Sunday
« on: July 24, 2008, 01:50:25 pm »
I am not sure when I will have another chance to make this work.  I am planning a work day on Sunday to get ready for the lIons Den, and more importantly for the tee pads.  I had initially planned on getting the pads in prior to Lions Den, but I am thinking that we may need to do that in Sept or October, as all of my w/e are booked through Sept now.

Please plan on showing up, the more tools you bring the better.  Lawn mowers, rakes, gloves and hands will all help.

Plan on being out there from 10-6.

The more the merrier.



Reply in here if you can help, and please pass this information along.  Anounce at leagues, tell your friends.  If you have the means, put it on an airplane and fly it over the Royals game, then by all the disc courses in town.

I would appreciate it.



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