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General Banter / personal apology, especially to the Women...
« on: October 02, 2015, 10:23:15 AM »

So I had a long conversation with Rhonda this week and I just felt horrible.  I felt that I should share with the entire community the process of which the Wide Open was moved to a 2 tier weekend and the date selected.

The PDGA informed us that the Wide Open in June as an NT wasn't an option (or a decision on dates wasn't met with the same enthusiasm as needed to secure the June date from us)......  We were essentially left with the option of April, May or July.  I had to struggle with all other options in terms of Emporia getting the Glass Blown (people coming to Emporia to play 2x) and the Worlds, how many people (traveling pro's for the NT that we were asked to run) do you think will make 3 trips to the area for the event? Would coming to KC before the worlds happen, or would they rather practice on Emporia Courses.  Emporia runs Thu-Sat, so having it the weekend before leaves people with a lot of time off requests, how many ams would be willing to play back to back A-Tiers and the expense and the time off requests from them which would be difficult. This was the only logical option to an absolutely bad scenario and I completely spaced on the weekend for the Women's event.....

As many of you can tell from the schedule there is a full month of June, and the PDGA couldn't support another NT/Major in June.  Based on this, the notion of hosting it in middle May, made little sense for both events.  If you have the GBO as an NT tying the area events into each other should ensure a large portion of "traveling" pros make this a mandatory stop.  Another thought was going to try it the weekend before, but April, as we know May as well the weather is a crap shoot, so it made more sense to make it happen after the event to me.  I checked with Rusco prior to giving the PDGA our commitment to see what he had planned for the GBO.  As they need to book the entire city, their golf courses, etc.... he was already locked into the May 2nd weekend.  This only made sense then to try to tie it in with both.  Going to July we run up against the World's in Emporia for the Pro side, so attendance wouldn't be as strong there.  Going into August is just heat and more heat, and after the world's that close, how many would return to KC if they played it?

To me and the conversations I had, this made the most sense.  We have done this in the past a few times (held separate weekend events), and it works.

I failed to recollect the Diva Feeva event in the planning as I was taken aback that after all the years we needed to adjust the dates.  I truly didn't think about any other events in the thought process with the exception of the known "Biggies", Des Moines, and Emporia came to mind to work around, I missed the boat on the Women's event, and when Rhonda called me to ask why this week while I was away with surgery for my daughter I didn't have a good answer.

I have given a suggestion to utilize Rosedale on that Saturday for the top and bottom as Rosedale won't be part of the NT this year, but I completely understand the frustration the concern, and the lack of feeling "part of" in regards to the conversation with the weekend and expanded development of the event that I was well was hopeful to watch grow. 

It is with this notion that I want to apologize to the entire community for the unfortunate timing of the Wide Open coinciding with what I personally believe to one of the best planned events we offer in terms of diversity and growth through the sport to the women.  It was never my intent to step on the toes or to thwart that development.  My own hope is that we are able to host the 2 events the same weekend and that this may entice other women to come and play in the event (if she/they (Ben and Rhonda) chooses to run it) and encourage the participants to stay and watch what I believe will be some of the top women in the sport competing in Kansas City that might not otherwise be here.

Again this is not something that I thought through given the short time frame on date decision with the Wide Open.  I feel horrible and I wanted to share at least online the notion that I am truly sorry for not aligning the dates with the event we hope to have in Kansas City over the years as one that we look back on and go WOW look at how many women we have now!

Sincerely apologetic doesn't begin to explain my feeling about this.....


Cliff Drive / Work day Saturday October 3rd
« on: October 01, 2015, 05:28:22 PM »
9ish-1ish, primarily cleanup and a few other loose ends to coordinate with the area cleanup.

The more the merrier the better we look....

Meet around hole #1

Cliff Drive / Workday on Saturday-September 26th
« on: September 21, 2015, 09:50:40 AM »
Primarily around hole #4, probably walk up from Chestnut by hole #5.  9ish-1ish.

Chainsaws, weedwackers, etc if you got it bring it.

Would like to clear out a little on #3 hillside as well.

Since there wasn't an LDO it is a little hairy in there and we want to clean it up for the Mighty Mo coming up.

All those in attendance to help will receive "good course karma".

Found and Lost / Blue Katana-Japan Open Disc Lost Birdland #9
« on: September 08, 2015, 01:37:14 PM »
Old Settlers lost it....Has my name and stamps from Japan Open, would love to have it back. 

Lost 2 in the water at Olathe on #15 (Pond) red CCC Katana, and Star Lite Valk (Also Japan Open stamps)

If found, and returned, something cool can transpire for being cool and returning things....

Prairie Center / Free basket tonight.....
« on: August 03, 2015, 08:58:16 AM »
For an ACE on the island hole was the rumor Tom started at WW League on Thursday.....

Leagues / Basket giveaway at Olathe Tonight
« on: August 03, 2015, 08:57:35 AM »
Tom has said that if there is an ACE on the Island hole there is a "free basket" as well as the ace fund.....just thought I would share this information!

Found and Lost / THANK YOU-Cliff Drive pick up
« on: July 01, 2015, 02:42:23 PM »
Cooper just let me know that my Blizzard Destroyer made it's way into DD today.

I just wanted to thank whomever found it.  I know it was last seen at Cliff Drive, and I gave up early on it.

At any rate if you were the person that returned it.....please let me know where you found it at, and a few beers are on me!


Tournaments / Wide Open 2016
« on: June 22, 2015, 12:46:04 PM »
What did you like, what didn't you like about this year's event that you would want to see, not see next year?

Let's get the ideas as they are fresh in our heads.

General Banter / Workdays for the Wide Open
« on: June 02, 2015, 01:41:29 PM »
I imagine I am not the only one wondering how you can help, but we need it on the upcoming weekends to get ready for the Wide Open.

Please post who and when you will be working and what you need help with for the courses.  Courses used this year will include Swope, Rosedale, WaterWorks, and Blue Valley (modified).

The workdays need to be done really by June 17th, ideally June 6 and 7 to prep the ground work, remove dead/down lims, trim teeing, and hole placements, then after that workday, move the pins to their ideal location for the event.

June 13 and 14 should start to prep more manicured work, possibly the OB lines (done only by those authorized), 10 meter circles, etc...)

That Wednesday and Thursday afterwards, may be the time to paint the 10 meter circles more so.

All help is needed, please post what you are planning on doing if you are organizing the workday.



Cliff Drive / Fresh Mow-6/1/15
« on: June 01, 2015, 10:16:00 AM »
Drew was out there cleaning up the remaining wooded holes, the course was mowed Saturday by the crew, and it is still set long for another week or so.

Get your last chance to play on the MONSTER before it goes back to a "normal" course.

Swope / Closed July 31st 2015 to casual play
« on: May 14, 2015, 03:24:49 PM »
Parks and recreation will be having an event that will be including the Swope Park Disc Golf Course, it will be closed to casual play on this day.

More information will be coming about this.



General Banter / Photogenic?
« on: May 13, 2015, 09:34:54 AM »
There will be a reporter from the Star that is doing an article about Disc Golf in Kansas City, they will be out at Swope at 4:30 taking photos.

If you are interested in possibly having your photo in the paper, hop on out and go over there!

Be sure to be nice and represent well.

Items to do-based on priority-
Mow holes 2-8
#2-mow fairway all the way to the long placement as well as all along the side towards the West, removing downed trees, careful to not placing anything along the single track trail
--create a better pass through from #2 pin to #3 pad
#3-clear out the entire area around the basket and the side of the hill going up, removing downed trees, and exposing the walls more so
#4-Mowing fairways, clearing out downed trees
#5-Mowing and clearing out the hillside and the green
#6-Mowing fairways.....removing gulley cuts of honeysuckle if possible-complete clearing out the new "long placement"
#7-Clear all along the cliff out of weeds between #8 pad and #7 long basket, start to expose alternate trail at end of the green for Singletrack riders to utilize instead of the green.  (Going past pin and up and reconnect with the trail past the pin, accessible and safer than current configuration)
#8-Clear out more of the long pin green, along the stage and rocks, etc.....

Next priority level......
#1, mow the short pin areas and remove downed trees
Alternate holes, move and spray honeysuckle growths, or remove with shoveling
re grade "fly pads" for flatter stance
#10 clearout the dead tree on the side, use to border long placement roller portection
#11-wait for P&R to spray, but try to chop down weed trees in reservoir
#12-Clean up hill side, (Looks good BTW comparatively to years past!)
#16-Clear out the trees on the inside of the reservoir and get P&R out to clean up.

Next level priority
Get tee pads all backfilled in
Finish the first 2 alternate holes, means clearing out more and planting trees.
New safer stair casing on #4 needs to be done
Bridge to get across the 2 new holes, as well as the new #6 extended, and possibly stair cases for the new hole after #6 extention (though we may be able to move the current stairs from #6, and repurpose them)
Expand hole #4 to get new pad/pins around the corner, then start to get another coming back to the current #5 clear out.
Additional holes beyond new extended #6 (this is going to be 3 additional holes)

Plant trees as approved by P&R and in conjunction with Trails/safety components.

This is an aggressive plan, but one that I hope we can get done.  Help can be used for however long you can be out there!

Cliff Drive / WTF-Where did all the distance come from?
« on: April 27, 2015, 12:26:20 PM »
In working on the team championship qualifications, Cliff Drive is in about the longest setting it can go into.

Please read the "sticky" topic to see the locations, but suffice it to say, it is long and longer than most configurations that we have had out there.

Post your scores below if you dare.....

Tournaments / Blue River Blowout.........November 7th 2015-Canceled
« on: April 20, 2015, 09:04:36 AM »
Since the Blue River goes to both courses, it makes sense to attach them.  This is a revisit to the "Sun Burn Open" that was along these lines about 10 years ago.  All the work at Blue Valley and the fun course of Swope will make this a great day.  The following week I believe that Rob Martin is planning another event at Blue Valley (Big Blue) where I believe he will be STRETCHING out Blue Valley and putting it's teeth in.  This will give you a chance to play alternate courses and formats on a great track of land.  Something that course needs more of for certain!

One round Swope UBER short and a modified Blue Valley (think last years club championships).  Will probably cap at 90, play Swope in the morning, and Blue Valley in the afternoon.

It is a PDGA C-Tier (entries will be $35-$60 for non PDGA members +$10 more)

More information to follow.

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