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Tournaments / Re: Ice Bowl 2016
« on: Today at 04:46:10 pm »
of that I think of it, if someone WANTS to run a Satellite event at Rosie on Saturday the 30th with a 10:00 Shotgun start, I don't see absolutely any reason that CAN'T happen....any volunteers?

Tournaments / Re: Ice Bowl 2016
« on: Today at 04:43:54 pm »
Nope, Since Rosie isn't being used I need to set up Swope and will be doing that on Saturday.  Not enough time truly to try to set it up (in what I will assume is cold) and with 2 courses at Swope we should be able to accommodate everyone Sunday morning that needs to get round 1 in.  It also gives me time to set up Swope for Sunday much more so than trying to cram everything in and hopefully releases stress on that front.

initially thinking that we would be at is just moving things in, with Swope it is setting up, tearing down, etc....

Heritage Park / Re: Map of the course
« on: Today at 02:55:59 pm »
Thanks K-Mont!

Tournaments / Re: Kansas City Wide Open 2016 split?
« on: Today at 01:43:16 pm »
As I understand the dates are set. I think the info is about format. I could be mistaken though.

I hope those are the dates Elk. I have to put in vacation in the next 30 days for Jan through Apr or potentially be denied if the schedule is full. Dates should be decided soon. Enough of this schedule bantor please.

Well folks, there isn't always a way to provide accurate information on your timelines.  We all wish that we could have everything "our way" but when you look at issues that we can't always control, like the PDGA informing us that we can have the NT for the Wide Open but you can't have it as you have hosted it the past decade on dates and timing) to the belief that we were also told that Emporia wouldn't get the Worlds and the NT as well....

Does it stink for those of you planning, yeah it does, and we have gotten MUCH better as an organization working on getting dates out as quickly as we can.  Just a few years back we typically provided only dates for events up to the Wide Open and then worked the schedule after the NFL schedule came out to plan for the Club Championships.

Now though we have essentially the prospect of 5 companies/individuals planning their schedule.  As businesses you have to plan it.  I get it, and I believe that everyone does, but from an all volunteer group that helps to promote, works with the municipalities to ensure the courses are insured, ready, and able to happen you need to wait.  In most cases you can't even schedule with the partners in the park until after the first of the year, or in some cases until after April we are also at the behest of the systems that we work with.

A way to avoid this is what Rob and Scott have already done, give information of when they want to have the dates, and then go through the process.  In another case, you have a new Board starting this month, since this information came out, so you can't rightly expect to have answers on everything if the BoD can't guarantee the information until it works with the parks as well to ensure no conflicts will exist.

As I stated earlier, probably nothing is concrete until after the BoD meeting on the 14th.  Be thankful that regardless of what happens it is clear that there will be plenty of options locally to play during the week with the many leagues, and the weekends with the companies and individuals running events for you to enjoy.

Tournaments / Re: Ice Bowl 2016
« on: Today at 01:24:49 pm »
Some preliminary information to align with dates for folks.....

Times for the Satellite Ice Bowls will be registration from 9-10 and will be shotgun starts at all locations as well;
Saturday January 16th-Raymore MO
Sunday January 17th-Olathe KS (Prairie Center)
Saturday January 23rd-Shawnee Mission Park
Sunday January 24th-Liberty MO
Sunday January 31st-Swope Park First round flex start 8-11 with the Final 9  at approximately 2:00 PM
Sunday January 31st, Swope will be available for people to play their initial round as well.  Registration will start at 8 AM, and we ask that you be on the course by 10:30 AM as we want the final 9 to be ready to start by 2:00.  We can also use volunteers for Sunday at Swope, we need about 16.

For those of you that don't know.....the Final 9 will have you playing with people that have a very similar score (generally +/- 1 to 2 strokes) and each CARD/Group you play with will win a disc for winning the final 9.  We are asking people to get started no later than 10:30 on Sunday as we plan about 2 hours a round in the short configuration, and with many people on Sunday it could be longer. 

Also we do need volunteers on all courses to help, but the bulk load will be needed Sunday at Swope.  Please let me know if you can help. 



Tournaments / Re: Maverick Disc Golf Schedule 2016
« on: Today at 01:05:21 pm »
cool, just a thought though....Aug 13th is the Worlds finals in Emporia.....And though it may not matter, the Lion's Den will probably be on the 6th of August is our initial plan.  Thought I would let you know about that in the scheduling.

For future reference Rob, what I have found to be EXTREMELY helpful is to send a text message to everyone with their phone's.  There are a few places out there that help if your service provider doesn't allow it.  I have been forced with making drastic changes during events and it is tough.  Set up a text file and an e-mail blast as well as the social media channels to spread news out.

It sounds like it didn't matter this weekend in regards to the event, but in the future to be proactive it is something to plan for.

with 2" of rain in the plans on Thursday and Friday, are we sure it is a great idea to plan it?  I know it is new, but destroying/creating ruts isn't in the best interest of the course as well....why not just move it to next friday?

Your call, but I had mentioned to some playing there, and then changed my mind with the rain coming to preserve the land initially.  New courses are always susceptible to things along these lines.

yeah, but you are is that simple, and do more than most will ever do or appreciate.

Tournaments / Re: Kansas City Wide Open 2016 split?
« on: November 25, 2015, 12:00:59 pm »
We are meeting over the next few weeks and once we (Scott, Dick and Myself) have the approval of the board more information will be forth coming.

Translation, nothing will be announced probably until after the club meeting on the 14th and the minutes are approved. 


We had discussed the idea of Gates back in like 2007 at many community meetings shortly after all the work was being done to the park and we wanted to keep it clean.

It was met with MUCH resistance from the area residents as they fear that it will deter the park from the area residents.  There were complaints of closing it forcing alternate driving that would increase traffic in their area, and others were adamant about it being a short cut that they rely on for transportation.

Needless to say it was a HOTLY discussed topic, as much so as the gates at Cliff.

FWIW, the few items on the course that we saw in all honesty does pale in comparison to Cliff.  Blue Valley has never been as trashy as Cliff Drive over the years.  It is more accessible and open so it does allow the ability to clean it much more so than Cliff.  With all the hidden areas at Cliff it is (sigh) a constant work and collaboration with multiple groups, as is Blue Valley.

Let us be proud that we work to make that change, we work towards the betterment of land, and in return we get to throw our plastic at little metal contraptions and feel joy, anger, frustration, excitement, and all with a great view of the outdoors!

Thanks Doug!  You have no idea of how happy it makes me to see and read about the work you do for so many in the area that have no idea of your drive to improve life for others!

It was pretty trashy out there, especially on the back 9 and the parking lot (Darn it). I typically play a loop of 2 through 9 twice - so that part was clean. SteelerDoug, I hope you will come out to help with this years Little Blue River Cleanup. It would be great to have all disc golfers at the Blue Valley site so we don't use up the non DG volunteers.
It was great to have such a large turnout on such a cold/windy day in late Nov. All of those players added a lot of energy to the course. I look  forward to Rob having more tourneys out at BV.
And others!

Here here to getting more out on the Cleanup day of Blue River.  There is always more to do Doug, and as a park that isn't locked down and monitored like some places it did look pretty dang good over all, especially since most of the trash cans have been removed for the season.

Thanks again for all you do and Jim (like he would read this.....) for the continual efforts.

General Banter / Re: Grading Cards
« on: November 23, 2015, 12:34:05 pm »
Yep, TD errors happen as well.  Typically that is why you keep scorecards for some time after the event.  I just threw out the Wide Open cards from this year with the Club CHampionship when we got the board.

It is ALWAYS good to double check your score for certain.  mistakes happen to all of us, and finding and correcting them before you turn them is often the best way.  Also why I keep my score as well.  I know typically what I shot before someone else adds it up.  If a different number comes up, I double check my own, if I have the same answer I look at the card to turn in more closely and double check it.

I have also been guilty of adding other people's scores wrong (Sorry Dan-O) and they get stroked for not checking them and verifying as well.  Unintentional for certain, but in this case he lost the tournament by 2 strokes.......that he got from trusting my math skills....

General Banter / Re: Grading Cards
« on: November 23, 2015, 10:36:33 am »
The biggest PROBLEM with cards at something like is that it deviated from the normal 18.

Anytime you have more than 18 cards the possibility of errors goes up at least 50%.

I had kept my own card with myself and Heath and had 3 different scores for us.  I found an error that I had made on both of ours, and it finally aligned so that it was accurate (painful to read for me and my own score, but accurate nonetheless).

So in a normal tourney you may see 1% error, or possibly 1 out 90 may be wrong.  In an event with more than 18 holes you will typically see about a 4% error, or 4 out of the 90 is probably right, but that increases obviously then to almost a 300% increase in possibly receiving erroneous scores.

Rob's cards he made for the course worked well for "flow" of how he wanted the course.  It wasn't however aligned as well with separating the scoring of 9-9-9.  Which I entirely get why he did it that way for certain, but keeping my own score (I typically do, and encourage you to do the same) I had to alter it in my brain which then forces more work towards accurate scores.  His alignment though made the most sense as people don't always listen to how something like this needs to be followed.

so the long answer.....about 1% normally, and in instances of more than 18 holes (24 hole courses out there as well have this issue) 4% error on the cards.  Sometimes you will have none....

Great Time Rob!  Thank you for putting it on. And except for the trash, yeah that's BV, the course looks great Doug. Luv the new hole on 7

Not new just has been hidden.  Kudos to all that work on it out there with Doug spearheading the efforts it continues to be one of the best kept secrets of Kansas City Disc Golf.

Big thanks to Rob for putting this together.

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