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Swope / Re: SWOPE Changes DISCussion
« on: June 28, 2016, 10:03:16 am »
There's not a whole lot of room down there before the train tracks.  I thought of that when I first heard the news.  Maybe it's wider than it looks on the maps, but either way something will get worked out.  :)

That is correct, and you are spot on with the spacing.  The first and foremost item will be safety, and having anything near the tracks will not be tolerated.

General Banter / Re: Pat "Stally"Stallbaumer
« on: June 22, 2016, 02:30:55 pm »
Thanks Kev.:hugs:

Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2016--June 18th and 19th Location TBD
« on: June 21, 2016, 02:45:26 pm »
Keizer's gonna be pissed......he don't like being dropped...

Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2016--June 18th and 19th Location TBD
« on: June 21, 2016, 10:29:15 am »

Don't cheat me. 


Let's get them fighting maybe then we can go back to loving the trophy!

Swope / Re: SWOPE Changes DISCussion
« on: June 21, 2016, 10:24:14 am »
Some updates....

Currently the KC Pet project is in a 14,000 square foot building from 1972 with an additional 2,000 square foot facility to conduct surgery's (band aid approach).  The proposal will put in a 60,000 square foot facility with plans to have outdoor areas as well for the pets.  This will enable them to house about 500 animals very easily.  The average time for animals in the shelter is 19 days.  They currently have about 10,000/year that go through there.  Since KC Pet Project took over the facility in 2012, they city has provided about $1.3 mil of the needed $3.2 mil needed to operate.  Because 93% of the animals survive this is considered a "no kill" shelter and the 3rd largest in the country.  Aligning the location with nature center and the zoo is a good fit.  Swope Park has an average of about 2 mil visitors a year, with close to a million going to the Zoo, and about 300k going to Starlight.  The traffic would increase in that area to the tune of about 15-20 cars an hour, a nominal increase that Gregory will easily absorb.

The plan is to gain approval by all city council this year, and send it to the voters in a 2017 ballot.  They will put the initiative in a package with other infrastructure needs, roads, bridges, sidewalks (so the city will pay for replacing sidewalks, not the home owners), when I asked about plan "B", no one seemed to think that a plan B would be needed.  As a former T-Mobile employee this reminds me of the AT&T attempt to buy T-Mobile, and everyone on the T side thought it would be a forward to declined by the justice department, T-Mobile closed 1/2 of its call centers, went into a massive hiring freeze, and almost had to close operations.

What does that mean?  I don't know, but to me it means that nothing is in stone yet.  There is CLEARLY  a need for this facility and I for one think that this is a great chance for us as a disc golf community to improve our course options in Swope. So I am hopeful we continue to move forward, but there will be hurdles abounding and I wanted to give a little more idea of where this is currently at.

General Banter / Re: todd
« on: June 20, 2016, 02:12:57 pm »
I have found a -15 at Swope he shot as well while searching, but I found this as well to sort of compliment, still looking at all the things he did, but never posted...

General Banter / Re: todd
« on: June 20, 2016, 02:08:25 pm »
Yes, carts came about in eighties, Todd still holds course record at Waterworks, at -16, and was cursed with lefty skills. You can show your support for ISIS by using a cart though.

It was -15 down, not to really trump was still awesome, I am trying to find the exact date he did it on, so far I found this thread...

General Banter / Re: todd
« on: June 20, 2016, 11:05:57 am »
Too soon, such a great guy, just sad about it.

WYCO / Re: 2016 Wyco League Fridays
« on: June 17, 2016, 10:59:39 am »
There is but Beckett isn't exactly computer savvy

Swope / Re: SWOPE Changes DISCussion
« on: June 16, 2016, 04:23:38 pm »
And I think that everyone is right in their feelings, so I know I come across harsh and authoritarian, and though kinda my intent, I also am pretty matter of fact in my statements.

I get it, Swope has been in the ground longer than many of our members have been alive.  It is the reason that we (KCFDC) have such a great working relationship with the P&R.  In fact during the meeting with the Director of the Parks, he was commenting on how he went out with Tom Ingle (Original Designer) in like 1979/1980 or so and it was his permission that got the course moving.  So he has an attachment to Swope as well.

To be a little more transparent, this wasn't the Park's call.  It really was the City's call.  The City basically said we are moving forward with this plan...they were blindsided as well initially, but it does make sense.  As many people take animals to the nature Center across the street already, this will ease that confusion.  It is also close to the zoo, thus keeping the "animal family" all aligned and close.

Change is hard, but I am hopeful that I can work this as a catapult to get more than we are losing.  I believe that the timing is right, I feel that they are open to discussion and ultimately it should help us be an even bigger component to park.

I loved it when the signage went up all around pointing to the Disc Golf, and I am hopeful we can add more signs for all of us to enjoy!

Swope / Re: SWOPE Changes DISCussion
« on: June 16, 2016, 01:39:38 pm »
I don't mind change, every time a course coordinator turns over they are going to try and change things to be how they want them.

And this is something that the BoD is working on preventing.  The courses were/are designed for a reason, typically the only person that should be making changes are the designer or if P&R wants a change...

BTW though a BIG THANK YOU!!!!!! for helping out at Youngle this week as well bud!  I appreciate it as does everyone!

Swope / Re: SWOPE Changes DISCussion
« on: June 16, 2016, 01:24:19 pm »
At the end of the day the KCFDC does not own the park and as such, the city can do what they want with the park.  I'm just glad they're letting us keep the course in the ground and have worked with the club to find a way to incorporate both.  Same applies at WaterWorks.

EXACTLY... a person that has been involved with the club over 15 years and counting your belief that we (KCFDC) can drastically change/alter plans on land we don't own is just wrong.

The best thing about this is the fact that P&R came to us last year when this was presented to them about the notion that we may need to look at alternate options.  At that time I was asked to keep quiet due to the situation NOT being completely understood or approved.  I did as requested because of the level of trust that they had to include us in the initial conversation  I chose to share this information with the BoD privately a meeting or so ago, but again asked their support and understanding in communication per the request of the parks.

There isn't anything wrong with being part of the conversation and there is nothing that the club could do on the land we don't own.  What we got instead is a chance to move forward with alternate ideas that should lead to some wonderful change at Swope and hopefully additional disc golf for everyone.  To me that is way more important than releasing inaccurate information that hadn't been approved by the Parks Board.  Now that it has we can discuss it, but ultimately again, THE LAND IS NOT THE CLUBS.....

Tournaments / Re: 32nd Annual Mid-America Open - June 24th - 26th
« on: June 14, 2016, 02:25:13 pm »
Are there any Ams going to this event, that are not staying the night?  If so, is there any interest in carpooling?  I want to play, but I don't want to spend the money on hotel.  Would rather drive back & forth 1 day & ride with someone the next...

Youd save like $20 to drive 8 hours?  Makes more sense to carpool and get a room than to drive back forth a couple of least to me my time is worth more than $5/hr savings...

General Banter / Re: You Gotta See This.....
« on: June 14, 2016, 09:19:31 am »
Socki-Bom said it was sick, that they couldn't see it or hear it.  The camera guy started pumping his fists, so they thought it was a good shot...then as they got closer they realized far away they didn't even hear the smashing of the chains.....

Epic shots that disc golf is becoming "more frequent" on the tube!

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