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General Banter / Re: Apologies to Rob and a few others.
« on: March 24, 2015, 08:48:21 am »
You're welcome, keep on keeping on!

Swope / Re: Swope League 2015
« on: March 23, 2015, 10:35:33 am »
Awesome Van, thanks for your time buddy!

General Banter / Apologies to Rob and a few others.
« on: March 23, 2015, 10:07:57 am »
I would like to publicly go on the record with an apology to Rob and a few others that I may have offended.

In the case specifically of Rob, my biggest problem with is a perception problem of my own.  I may post a little more passionately about how I view things, and how they should be done in my eyes.  I at times fail to have the realization that it is sole focus burning and not to the betterment of Disc Golf.  Not my intent, but clearly it can come across that way.

So I wanted to let the record show that although I am very passionate about my own beliefs, desires, and expectations, many others may not share that vision or passion.  As such my comments made at times may not be the best alignment to point out how great our community is.

I tend to view the forum as an open chance for dialogue to start conversations that at times may get heated.  I don't back down, but I will change my own opinion as time and conversations make me see that I may need to be more altruistic.  This is the case here. 

I do think that Rob is getting some great traction in the less than normally played locations.  I may not agree with the mannerism that he goes about, but that is just simply because he is doing it his way and I shouldn't chastise him for that as I have been.

There are other conversations that come up that I clearly do get heated on, and it is the basis for my apologies to others as well.  It appears in my typing at the computer that I am guilty of what I despise the most.....typing at the machine, not talking and communicating and I hated realizing that is what I have been doing as well.  Not my intent (ok some times it is....  ;D ) to alienate individuals, but in most instances it is the belief that we all have a passion to take the sport forward.

My devotion may be greater than some, weaker than others, and honestly more tied to the notion of the work that I personally give and see others give.  I know the requirements in many cases, and I expect and at times demand people be held to the standard I have of myself.  I don't even make that standard often, so as such I shouldn't be throwing rocks in the glass house that I am looking through.

For that I do apologize to Rob specifically as my intent wasn't to belittle, but rather shine a light that I felt needed, which probably isn't my place to do so publicly.  Others I may have offended, realize that this is only due to my own desire to have Kansas City as the greatest town in the world to play our sport.  Even though on the Chatter Room here I may come across as all knowing and wonderful, I am but a man behind the green curtain, and as such it isn't just I that can complete anything in town, it takes all of us.  We may offer disagreeing terms, and some times may get heated, my intent isn't to alienate, but to engage, discuss and find a solution to help us all.

Many of you over the years know my bark is far worst than my bite.  I very rarely bite, in fact generally will give off my plate instead.  I don't want our community to be viewed as hostile, and my recent conversations may have indicated that it is.  It isn't, and for that I feel shame, and it took the conversations recently to show me that I may be over stepping what I view as helping, because it hasn't, and for that I do apologize to all of you as well.



Tournaments / Re: Maverick Disc Golf Schedule 2015
« on: March 20, 2015, 10:26:22 am »
First I had heard of this Rob.

Since I have been sending all the information to the Parks Dept about events, when and how was this Blue Valley thing approved and by who?

Also since there isn't ample parking available I will be interested in seeing your design plans on how to accommodate the parking since there isn't enough space there..... ??? ??? ???

Most courses have limited parking that cannot accomodate a full tourney..... Blue Valley KCMO for example......


Yeah I guess when we had close to 3000 people out there we didn't have parking? 

You make little sense at times...come play the course and see that there are roads all around with ample parking. before you start to comment on items that make no sense.

Tournaments / Re: Matchbox 64 MODIFIED Match Play Comment Thread
« on: March 18, 2015, 12:57:32 pm »
Pretty cool idea to bring this to KC.  Thanks fellas.

Tournaments / Re: 33rd Annual Kansas City Wide Open - June 19-21, 2015
« on: March 18, 2015, 11:34:40 am »
As a famous Kansas City disc golfer recently said "I'm lazy and didn't want to read a essay", so can you just sum it up for us. What's in the player pack.  ;D ;D
Good stuff-in the players pack that is......disc golf stuff on top of that.... ;D

Sum it up... have you read my posts? ???

Tournaments / Re: 33rd Annual Kansas City Wide Open - June 19-21, 2015
« on: March 18, 2015, 09:04:53 am »
;D. Well for one thing Jack..Last year I Volunteered for working one day., But ended up working every single day....And when I was looking at playing this year, I notice it was only 80 bucks to register.
I believe that I should have a right to know what the players pack is.

I didn't mean to probably come off as harsh as it sounded, this internot doesn't always promote the best tone inflections.

That being said, the gist of what I was saying or attempting to would be that it is still probably being decided.  At times you don't know what all you are getting as a TD until a few weeks out from sponsors, last minute agreements, etc....  The history of the Wide Open is one that has almost always been a very generous players pack.  To a point where the players pack gets bashed because the AM PAYOUT wasn't as strong as people would have liked because they got more in value on the players pack than they paid.  This has happened and hence my own undertones of OMG the players pack question, seriously?  History has jaded me in this respect and I fully admit it.

We need help, we always need more help.  That is typical my response, when people ask how, I say go do and let us know what you can give to help make it better.

So since again things are just moving along now on the planning part suffice it to say it will be a cool players pack for certain that will as the last few years have indicated, exceed the value I took a little quip on it.

I am sorry if it cam across harsh, it wasn't my intent to single it out, but ultimately I am a big bully and as such I tend to tower and throw all this abusive speak on the internet that some take as personal, when in fact it is just attempting to create dialogue about other endeavors to make this event even better.

I personally thank you as well for helping out last year.  I barely remember the event but I am all to cognizant of the efforts of many to give a little time and how impactful it is even if someone can only help for an hour, hell 30 minutes, trust me it helps. For that to take one day to give, and spend 3 AWESOMENESS is yours, and please accept my apology as it wasn't directed towards you as such, but rather trying to get our local scene to a better realization of just how much energy is needed to make this event.  It is a tough hill to climb when dealing with an all volunteer group to make it happen.

Apologies to those that it offended, now get volunteering!   ;D

General Banter / Re: West Side Team Page
« on: March 17, 2015, 02:54:28 pm »

Tournaments / Re: 33rd Annual Kansas City Wide Open - June 19-21, 2015
« on: March 17, 2015, 12:49:38 pm »
What does the Am. Players pack consist of ?

Seriously.......?  Can we get the courses done and help in the event before we worry about "what do I get?"  Here is the deal, GBO is all ran by a DG company where you get their stuff.

The Wide Open is ran by volunteers that scrape to get you what we can on the time we have.

Let's help why not ask, "Hey how can I help in getting the players pack more awesome?" instead.....


General Banter / Re: West Side Team Page
« on: March 17, 2015, 09:53:31 am »
I'm not a big Missouri fan, so I don't care.  The big Viii should return to the fold, then only 1 team would have been left out this year....

General Banter / Re: West Side Team Page
« on: March 17, 2015, 09:17:01 am »
Wait you guys read?  Man I didn't know that.  Can you read a scorecard though with numbers?  Kinda like KU?  I mean they read the scoreboard at Sprint last weekend right?

Leagues / Re: PDGA League-Cash for stats
« on: March 16, 2015, 01:22:59 pm »
Ultimately to get round ratings and points, and get courses all over moving for folks was the plan during normal league.  It is quite simple at this point, you pay an extra $3 on top of league and I'll cover the rest.

Sorry I know that there has been a lot of confusing information on all this, but this way we can also start to look at local ratings even stronger at our leagues which I think will help all levels of players.

Tournaments / Re: March 28 & 29 C-Tiers in St Louis
« on: March 16, 2015, 01:21:07 pm »
Always fun time in the "Loo".

Looks like the Open is the week before the Wide open.

Cliff Drive / Re: Pin Placements
« on: March 16, 2015, 10:59:37 am »
Updated today.

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