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Cliff Drive / Expansion-Interested in helping
« on: October 20, 2014, 11:35:28 AM »
Looking to probably expand Cliff in its current configuration to a 24 hole course.  Are you interested in helping?

After many hours of conversation and discussion the realistic footprint is that cliff will remain pretty much the same with expansion to a 24 hole layout.

Will be looking at making current #7 in the short pin vanish.  We will be making the rocks on the right of the fairway OB, and adding more rocks, and trees along that stretch.

#17 will remain as it is, but with more trees, as will #13 and #14.

We will be working on a complete change of the trees coming up with a plan in place.

I have been working diligently at development of a plan that allows the usage of the bike trail and the disc golf course, and I think that all of us agree with the changes that were suggested.  The hope is that this minimizes impact on either of us with the great work that the trails have done in bringing in excitement, and the enjoyment that we have of seeing more people in the park.

Our gem is nice, but to show off the gem is always better.  To know that we have been instrumental in the development and improvements of the park over the past 15 years is also something that we can be proud of.  And finally our ability to engage and work towards a harmonious plan should be cool for us to all enjoy a diverse use of a great green space is wonderful.

Plans look like this:
The 2 new holes-they are partially done, we want to continue to clear it out, plant some dividing trees, and extending them both, initially the first one for the pin, and the pad on the second one.

Beyond hole #4.  Looking to continue around the long placement and wrap around the hillside with a shot about 270-320', then going down the hill a touch and coming back around towards #5 pad.  Initially I have always wanted to have hole #5 pad back further, but in this configuration we will be throwing down the slope of the hill towards it, a tricky placement shot that should be about 250-275' downhill

Beyond #6-going back back back, this hole will gain about 200' going the other direction from current long right placement, with valleys and ravines in place will play very uber technical on the shot.  We will then tee from the woods with a gut line shot about 300' through the woods heading up to the top of the grass to the northside of the road across from the lake.  We will then tee from that part of the land on the northside of the road and go towards current #7 from there.

So we lose short #7, an original hole from the days of past disc golf, we gain a value added partner in continuing to improve and positive activity within the park, and we will see more disc golf holes to play in the park that will create a uniquely interesting challenge to develop a course like very few, and in turn create better disc golfers in KC.

Pay attention as the leaves fall more work will be needed, and I know we can use a lot of help from a lot of people to get this done collectively!

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Hey Harold, please post pin positions @Cliff Drive...   ;D
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I posted them on the Tourney Thread Doc.  See you manana

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1-Original (behind the trees)
2-Short
3-Only
4-Rocks
5-Short
6-Long right (tunnel)
7-Middle (Short on hill)
8-Trees
9-Only
-2784'
10-Middle (Right)
11-Long
12-Only
13-Long
14-Short
15-Short (Under tree)
16-Short (Middle of the fairway)
17-Short (New Short behind #18 pad)
18-By the road
-3972'
Total 6756'

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We are tweaking Cliff, I wanted to play the "new holes" but with all the rain, safety first so we are back at the drawing board.  It will be a mix of long and short placements.

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Tournaments / Re: KCFDC Championships - October 11-12, 2014
« on: October 13, 2014, 09:43:02 AM »
Thanks for all the help this weekend from so many folks!  Doug Keehler has been doing great out at Blue Valley ( I know he would thank Jim Kreeger as well), Mike Petrin and Van Spratford for helping me with cards and set up.  I do appreciate it so much folks!

Now there was a request at Blue Valley to bring in all the tee signs, we were VERY CLOSE, but someone I am willing to bet grabbed holes #3 and #4 signage and forgot to bring them up to me.  If so, please just reach out to one of the disc golf partners and drop them off.  I will pick them up and return them to the storage.

It all helps, and I am exhausted and beat as I am sure many are.

How many other places in the country WORLD can you get that type of "free tourney" to play on such diverse and challenging courses for just being a part of the club?  We Roc!

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Tournaments / Re: KCFDC Championships - October 11-12, 2014
« on: October 12, 2014, 01:13:20 PM »
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NameFlight HoleRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Total
Jack LoweE 545458 166
Brendon EganG 516758 176
Rob HoeslyG 665457 177
Ian KloiberG 606060 180
Ed HolbrookG 625662 180
Derek BrookkerdG 645661 181
Brett MainG 595963 181
Tyler HahnG 566365 184
Amanda JacksonG 655371 189
Tim StarkG 586275 195
Josh KujowaH 556658 179
Chris ConnellH 655760 182
Mike PetrinH 645960 183
Andrew WarrenH 645861 183
Jeff StewartH 606361 184
Jeff LakeH 606164 185
Aaron MillerH 645964 187
Brett EnkelmannH 576664 187
Rich GurskiH 576664 187
Chris ParkerH 655668 189
Chris GraczykH 576669 192
Dennis SmithH 665674 196
Mike O'RourkeI 725557 184
Kendall MognessI 586860 186
Rob MartinI 616561 187
Scott AldridgeI 596666 191
Steve ChannellI 616368 192
Tyler ForbesI 646168 193
Earl JohansenI 6064999 1123
Adam RichterI 6562999 1126
David BlackburnI 6463999 1126
Brandon ForbesJ 626761 190
Dale EckertJ 596965 193
Chris PortwoodJ 646466 194
Marty LommersJ 656765 197
Van SpratfordJ 636867 198
Doug KeehlerJ 676469 200
Phillip BriceJ 636870 201
Brad LakeK 637158 192
Ben WhiteselK 666964 199
Nate ZierK 637565 203
Liz Borg-BowmanK 676771 205
Austin AndersonK 716372 206
James MorrisK 776173 211
Jen BrockmanX 786972 219
Rebecca LeachX 678378 228
Brian SkallaX 708178 229
Cathi StarkX 738684 243

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Tournaments / Re: KCFDC Championships - October 11-12, 2014
« on: October 12, 2014, 01:09:04 PM »
1:50 players meeting at blue valley for pool B

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Tournaments / Re: KCFDC Championships - October 11-12, 2014
« on: October 11, 2014, 07:08:08 PM »
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204077316068338&set=o.193797697298830&type=1&theater

Is one method.....
This is the start for Those individuals in Flights G, H, I, J, K and X. We will be starting at Water Works Disc Golf Course. 2 Minutes at 9:28. There will be a BRIEF players meeting at 9:05. Check-In and those of you wishing only to play tomorrow morning at Water Works needs to be done between 8:30 AM-9:00. If you scored 118 On the Day today or more you will be playing WATER WORKS in the morning, and then BLUE Valley in the afternoon. If you have any questions you can type something here or try to call my mobile at (nine-13) Forty eight5-fiftyone23.
NameFlight HoleRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Total
Jack LoweE15454 108
Amanda JacksonG16553 118
Ed HolbrookG16256 118
Brett MainG15959 118
Brendon EganG25167 118
Tyler HahnG25663 119
Rob HoeslyG26654 120
Derek BrookkerdG46456 120
Ian KloiberG46060 120
Tim StarkG45862 120
Chris ParkerH56556 121
Jeff LakeH56061 121
Josh KujowaH55566 121
Dennis SmithH66656 122
Chris ConnellH66557 122
Andrew WarrenH66458 122
Mike PetrinH76459 123
Aaron MillerH76459 123
Jeff StewartH76063 123
Brett EnkelmannH85766 123
Rich GurskiH85766 123
Chris GraczykH85766 123
Steve ChannellI96163 124
Earl JohansenI96064 124
Tyler ForbesI96461 125
Scott AldridgeI105966 125
Rob MartinI106165 126
Kendall MognessI105868 126
Mike O'RourkeI117255 127
Adam RichterI116562 127
David BlackburnI116463 127
Chris PortwoodJ126464 128
Dale EckertJ125969 128
Brandon ForbesJ126267 129
Doug KeehlerJ126764 131
Phillip BriceJ146368 131
Van SpratfordJ146368 131
Marty LommersJ146567 132
Austin AndersonK157163 134
Liz Borg-BowmanK156767 134
Brad LakeK156371 134
Ben WhiteselK166669 135
James MorrisK167761 138
Nate ZierK166375 138
Jen BrockmanX177869 147
Rebecca LeachX176783 150
Brian SkallaX177081 151
Cathi StarkX177386 159

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Tournaments / Re: KCFDC Championships - October 11-12, 2014
« on: October 10, 2014, 04:26:50 PM »
Nope.  I can't I don't have any FTP servers to send this to for uploading.

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Tournaments / Re: KCFDC Championships - October 11-12, 2014
« on: October 10, 2014, 03:56:48 PM »
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204057793340282&set=gm.725033100884507&type=1&theater


On this layout, hole #6 is a MANDO on the tree no anny's there folks.  Also if you played it there will be a better facing pad on this layout on hole #6

Setup for BV?

Yes

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Tournaments / Re: 2014 Roc vs. Buzzz at Swope Park on September 28th
« on: October 08, 2014, 09:54:32 AM »
Yeah yeah yeah, but I just was attracted to it, so hence my reply. ;D  I do agree though replace what you move within 72 hours is what I try to have done.

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General Banter / Re: Shared Use- MTBs and Disc Golf
« on: October 08, 2014, 09:53:07 AM »
I agree Aaron wholeheartedly.  In the instance at Cliff, my naivety in hoping that more in the park is a welcomed addition I didn't visualize the impact that the trail would have impeding on the course.  I truly just want more in the park to have a positive impact and less unsavory behavior.

In fact my plan at Hodge I am completely waiting for the trail to be complete before I go and design the course.

In no effort to cause pain injury or otherwise harm either sport, neither myself nor the people wanting trails thought that we would possibly hurt anyone.

This case is truly unique in that I encouraged and was excited to see more positive activity within the park.  I am crushed over my enthusiasm to make Cliff a better place may in fact be the cause to pull the course as we know it and move it to a separate place or remove it altogether.

I am working hard within the ears to come up with a plan, and I think we do have one, but it is a valuable lesson learned, and one that we will be needing to DEMAND proper space for both.

We can co-exist in the same land, just not in the same footprint.

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Tournaments / Re: 2014 Roc vs. Buzzz at Swope Park on September 28th
« on: October 07, 2014, 07:25:57 PM »
Yeah.  What he sa8d.  We need excitement in here....i didn't even read this until Dick called him out.  Common courtesy would have been to replace what you move...but I'm guilty from time to time.  This could also be why Dan is upset if has taken over 3 months to replace the red ones

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General Banter / Re: Shared Use- MTBs and Disc Golf
« on: October 07, 2014, 02:31:43 PM »
Thanks all, this is a start, but I am still very scared about safety and will be re-evaluating Cliff even more so than I had already envisioned.  This could be an ok plan as we move forward as I think about it.

My biggest fear at Cliff is along (current configuration) #2 falling out to the right, someone deciding to ride down anywhere along #4-#6, people coming out of the tunnel on #8, or having it fall to the trees on #8, anyone along #9, and then finally #12.

Be mindful that as more and more people enjoy the land, there will be more and more people off the side of the cliff.  As more and more honeysuckle and other trees/bushes are removed for cleaning and clearing the possibility exists more and more of someone inadvertently being hit.  I scenario none of us want to be in.

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