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Tournaments / Re: SAINT LOUIS OPEN MAY 1st and 2nd
« on: March 16, 2010, 03:05:37 PM »
Oh , yeah, another reason I wanted to cancel the Mighty Mo....

Good times in St. Louis, good times.... 8) 8) 8)

Tournaments / Mighty Mo-Cancelled 2010
« on: March 16, 2010, 01:35:33 PM »
I have run into a situation that will not allow me to run the Mighty Mo this year. 

I can not read a calendar, and forgot that I have other obligations on that weekend planned.

I am also leaning towards not having the City Of Fountains.

What may transpire is that in late October, or early November I will run an event using all three courses.

Saturday=Cliff Drive/Water Works
Sunday=Blue Valley

I would like to align this with the Cliff Hanger Run located in the Northeast, and offer a discount for those runners that run in the event, and play in the disc golf event.

More on this will follow as we move through the year, but I wanted to let you all know that I made a decision today to cancel the event for the year.

Thanks for your understanding.

General Banter / $10-NCAA Bracket Pool
« on: March 16, 2010, 12:08:38 PM »
every year I run this little challenge, we typically have about 25 people, and generally do a split of the payout like this-

Now when I ran it in Chicago and we had close to 100 people, we capped the winner at $400, and broke it down from there, and paid respectively, not bad for your $10 investment.

If you are interested in this, please PM me at



Copy and paste this URL:

Remember to include your group's password:

Please forward to all that you know that you know will pay.
You can either get the money to the people that you know, or
paypal me the $10/bracket to

I believe you can have 2 brackets, though you may be able to
have more, there was enough interest yesterday in my note to
make me think that I should do this.

If you don't know me good luck, if you do know me, bad luck!


Have fun folks!

May the best team win, not KU.....

Cliff Drive / Re: Cliff Drive Summer League Starts March 15th - ReDo
« on: March 16, 2010, 09:18:44 AM »
26....I'll look, I think we broke 30 once.....

Cliff Drive / Re: Cliff Drive Summer League Starts March 15th - ReDo
« on: March 15, 2010, 03:26:44 PM »
No need to lock it up for one round Dick, but thanks for the concern!

General Banter / Re: Hanging baskets-- not allowed in PDGA events?
« on: March 15, 2010, 12:58:05 PM »
Uh, quoting the following, "This course needs more people to play it, and this course needs more love.  I am in the process of creating another course within the park..."

So if we don't have enough playing in the first place, why create a 2nd one?

The issue is that we have made a huge difference, and we will continue to make a difference, and as we get more people out there, it will evolve.

Secondly, because I was asked to do so by the neighborhood association and some state representatives as the work we have done has not gone unnoticed.

Thirdly, because I am selfish, and I don't wanna go anywhere except places I can walk to play disc golf, and I have the energy, the know-how, and the moxy to make it happen in my backyard, so I am doing it.

Fourthly, because when this course is done, people will want to play this course over and over again, just like Cliff Drive.....WEST....

 ;D ;D ;D

General Banter / Re: Hanging baskets-- not allowed in PDGA events?
« on: March 15, 2010, 10:31:49 AM »
When our city responds to 311 calls you are correct, but until that time 911 is the number to call.

They will then issue the appropriate level of response.

Unless you are on the 911 switchboard and know something that the rest of us don't......

Is that your new job?

911 calls are needed to then also show the concern on the city reports and how many people are truly affecting the park, otherwise, if no one calls, they think there is no problem.

Dammit Mike, I've been at this and other parks for over a decade now, I know a little about what I say....
 ;D ;D

I agree about the calls to 911, and when my house was broken into the 2nd time in one day, and the alarm company called the police and it took over 2 hours to show up, it pisst me off.

Other ideas to run our cities appropriately?  Hire more managable staf to run the city services, and maybe we wouldnt even haev this conversation, but wait....that would require staff to pay which we have no money to pay because we give Tiff breaks on so many items.......thats another issue though for another post.

Another option if you are open to Keizer's line is to call Central Patrol Police Dispatch at (816) 234-5510......that may help out!

General Banter / Re: blue valley options
« on: March 15, 2010, 09:57:31 AM »
As the person that wrote the grant to get the additional funding let me state what I stated in the grant:

$25,000-to finish the existing disc golf course at Blue Valley.
--This would use those funds available to install the alternate teeing areas for the original course, bring in some trees, and shrubberies where appropriate as the people see fit. (Dan and Jim)

$50,000-To install a "red course-Red baskets, red tees" within the Eastern or Western half of the park.  Using some of the same terrain and land, but adding to the park a course that is more manageable within the scope of most people for casual golf.  It will still feature tough challenges and utilize parts of the park that are not being used, and some that are.

$50,000-to install a "blue course-Blue Baskets, blue tees" within the Western or eastern half of the park.....blah blah blah..

What I want to do is to essentially have 4 courses within the park, at any time you could be running 2 courses.  Red-Blu, Silver/Gold-executive.

We should call the big course Silver, because the baskets will be silver, and then if we end up with other color see where this is going.

You could also casually be able to have players on all 4 courses and increase participation for the courses/park to improve the quality.

I am not sure where this stands currently, as I have not heard from the funding group about it, but rest assured-

Blue Valley is NOT being reconfigured.  It is NOT being pulled out.  It is NOT being taken away and dummied down!

IT IS BEING LOOKED AT TO IMPROVE and utilize the land that is not being used, and incorporate the existing land to make it a huge showcase if approved.

Folks should realize that even though we have a good course at Blue Valley there aer many holes that I had used that are not in the mix of what Jim and Dan decided.  I would guess that over the 4 years before that park went in when I got the funding for it that I had created close to 90 different holes.

Some do mirror what is out there, and some does not.  This will be a chance to use some of the holes that many of you may remember, and yet again give us a better opportunity to help infuse a park with more appropriate activity, without having to pay a hall pass to visit a lake! ;D

Hope this helps some people's understanding.

Does anyone else want to spray paint the WyCo Logo in bright red paint that spells out-

General Banter / Re: Hanging baskets-- not allowed in PDGA events?
« on: March 09, 2010, 03:47:55 PM »
Firearms, and errant 4-wheelers are not needed to take care of issues at Cliff!

(I don't care how much fun you think it is!)

General Banter / Re: Hanging baskets-- not allowed in PDGA events?
« on: March 09, 2010, 03:19:52 PM »
well.....its the truth, but the real truth of the matter is that since we started being active in the park there, all of this has gone down DRASTICALLY.....

Just sayin!

Seriously the park has been neglected for years.  We have single handedly given back a large section of that green space back to the community, and in turn to our community.

We have not done it alone, but we have been the organization that has spearheaded this work over the last decade, and it is something to be proud of. 

Its an inner city urban core park that is absolutely beautiful, but a lot of that beauty is from the countless hours that we have given to the park.

There are problems in the park still, and I encourage each and everyone to step up and volunteer in your "local course".  This course just needs more help.  This course needs more people to play it, and this course needs more love.

I am in the process of creating another course within the park, it will be to the East of the existing course.  As that plan comes together we will need more help to ensure the successes that we have seen in the park to date are not neglected, but rather ar emphasized even more to continue to make an even bigger impact in our community.

The park is what the park has become.  We are the stewards of change.  We have started to climb the hill, (which is good, because in 2001 you couldnt see the hill from the trash!) but we have a continual uphill battle without the escalator out of the woods on #6!

I say it tongue in cheek, but if you see any of these activities it is your duty to call 911 about it immediately, and then complete your round.  Its not your job to to do anything but report it. 

Half of the battle is getting the information to the right people.

My number is 913.485.5123, call 911, then call me.  I will make sure that the information gets to the right people, and you should receive good Karma for taking care of the earth, and your course!

So yeah those things happen.  Who in here knows the story about hole #14 and the bank robber shooting.....(hint it happened in 1971....)

The park has a long history, we are merely adding to it.  We can change this perception, that is a lot of power, and it is something that shuold make us all proud.

We are doing great things in bad areas, and we reap the enjoyment of watching plastic hit metal chains, some of us are even lucky enough to get it to stay in the chains.

Above ground, below ground, on a tree, even mini disc golf.....those of you that have seen this course over the last decade know what I am talking about.

Most importantly if you made it to page 4 on this thread, you are already addicted to disc golf, and you should want to see it for yourself!
 :o :-*

Prairie Center / Re: 03-08-10 GLOW finale
« on: March 09, 2010, 12:41:55 PM »
I pay for people on my card.  That's it.  Casual, League, or Tournament.  I think paying if you see something is your own choice.  Would you expect for 20 people to pay at hole 1 at down under league? 

I would, but then again thats me, and I expect that same courtesy from all fellow disc golfers.

I can honestly say that I have paid for every ace that I have seen.

I paid $11 the and had only thrown 2 drives two weeks ago on money towards other people......

Again thats me, and I hope that the Karma gods smile favorably on me either on this planet, or the one beyond....

Prairie Center / Re: 03-08-10 GLOW finale
« on: March 09, 2010, 10:31:29 AM »
The rules of the $5-$1 club are quite simple. 

If you see an ace you pay $5 to the person hitting the ace.

If you see someone hitting the basket or above chains (Tops of Innova, flag poles, number plates do NOT count) you pay them a $1.

The only time it is not ok to pay someone is if they are emptying their bag, and its not their first shot.  If you are playing casually with another player and it gets hit, its worth $5 to see it and talk about it.

I've paid on aces that I barely have seen, someone will throw it and scream, then I'll pay, though I only saw them tee off.  Thats me, some people say that they have to either witness the entire shot, or be on the card (if you did not see it, and you are on the card, you SHOULD PAY (not a must, but only because this is totally optional) or feel shame and ridicule for not ponying up!) in order to get paid.

The bottom line is that typically before each round, I'll ask who is in the "51 Club", and if they don't know I'll explain it, or they say yes or no, and you know where you stand!

Atta boy Drew!

General Banter / Re: Hanging baskets-- not allowed in PDGA events?
« on: March 09, 2010, 10:21:55 AM »
... if a hanging basket is going in, Cliff Drive is the most logical choice, in my humble opinion.

If for no other reason than to annoy Jack, it's the perfect location.  :P

Of course it is, why wouldn't I be all riled up otherwise?

Trash, dead bodies, burnt cars, homeless shelters, johns getting happy, hanging baskets, all the fun you to can soon have at Cliff Drive.....

General Banter / Re: Hanging baskets-- not allowed in PDGA events?
« on: March 09, 2010, 08:47:49 AM »
Don't you have code to compile????
 ??? ??? ??? ??? :o :o :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D ;D

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