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General Banter / Re: Best Course between here and Chicago?
« on: January 27, 2010, 12:14:46 pm »
College course in OTTUMWA was PULLED last summer, I am not sure if it is back in the ground or not.

They had litter and then someone started a fire in the middle of a fairway I had heard...

I'll look into it, but I am pretty sure its gone.

Ottumwa has 2 courses still, and there is/was to be a new course in the area between Osky and ottumwa.

I'll see what I can find out about those, but those courses really are out of the way on a trip to Chgo regardless.

Update-
It is back in, but you need to buy a tag from security to play, was told its like $5 for the year......

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Winter Leagues / Re: Homie league
« on: January 27, 2010, 10:14:46 am »
WW on Super Bowl Sunday then?

Sounds like a great way to start off a great day!

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Shawnee Mission / Re: New Pin locations at SMP
« on: January 26, 2010, 11:39:41 am »
They have been in planned for quite some time.  There shold be alternate holes for all 18, not sure when they get completed though....

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Winter Leagues / Re: Homie league
« on: January 26, 2010, 11:27:20 am »
Page #3 on this thread has this information.

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General Banter / Re: Best Course between here and Chicago?
« on: January 26, 2010, 10:00:43 am »
West lake is least out of your way.  Ewing is not too far off the path.  Big Creek/Walnut are way out of your way.  ANother fine course if you go the north route is in Newton Maytag park, like a mini WW.  Lamoni either course is great to play.  Mokena in the SW Chgo area is a good park as well, I prefer Chanahon (off of I-80 SW of Joliet, basically I-55 and I-80)

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Winter Leagues / Re: Homie league
« on: January 26, 2010, 09:57:15 am »
Glover is correct.  Homie is ALWAYS AT 9:00 am.

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Rosedale / Re: DU today @ 2:30?
« on: January 21, 2010, 02:54:56 pm »
you gotsta start somewhere!

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Rosedale / Re: My first ACE...kinda
« on: January 20, 2010, 04:13:18 pm »
and both of those you are throwing downhill at the baskets, or across a little valley, but downhill nonetheless.  I still remember Jack Black from MN throwing an MRV at #9 and parking it back in like 2001.....

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General Banter / Re: Please behave in our parks
« on: January 20, 2010, 03:14:38 pm »
http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedcontent/dws/drc/localnews/stories/DRC_Corinth-Disc_Golf_Park_0120.95897c45.html

This is why we should NEVER do work in the park without notifying and working with the P&R first.  On first read, it really sounds as though that no one had an advocate on the P&R to ensure that everyone was up to speed on this project.

Please never do any work in the parks with out proper information to all levels.  This not only includes the local municipalities P&R, but also local neighborhood associations that may have a vested interest in the area that we may be using.

We are blessed by the countless people that have worked with the P&R in all of our partnerships, lets make sure that we keep that moving forward!

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Tournaments / Re: 28th Annual Wide Open - Countdown to 30
« on: January 20, 2010, 02:03:47 pm »
I would actually like to see the 2011 and 2012 KCWO go to a format with separate Am and Pro weekends. I think it would help in recruiting volunteers from each group to help with the other event.
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I think that idea has some merit for sure, and I know it has been talked about.  It really follows the NT format much better as well.  Have the Am event the weekend before, and then maximize the Pro the next.  It hurts in some traveling issues, but it helps locally not to strain as much, but you also have a bunch more work to do as it is 2 events instead of 1.

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Rosedale / Re: My first ACE...kinda
« on: January 20, 2010, 01:56:26 pm »

.... Your rounds must be terribly disappointing.

I have only 3 aces to my credit even though I've been playing basket disc golf for 25 years.

Hmmm, thinking about swope. Unfortunately I don't really know where all the shorts are on that course.  Where are the short pins on #12, #13, #16? are they truly ace shots?  anything that is greater than say 350ft and doesn't allow a clean hyzer or straight-to-hyzer shot isn't an ace possibility in my game.

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Ok, enough badmouthing my game there Mister! ;D  Yes I am often disappointed by my game!

Well I think that I am at 9 now, and first played in 1978, started playing on chains in 1983, and got my first ace in 1999.....

#12, just past the tree line, downhill, slightly over probably like 290', curiously enough this was my first Ace in October on 1999, back when the Dobie was there, as were all the trees protecting the basket, up away, and pad not as close to the old fence.  All my knucklehead friends were throing acorns at me as well as I threw it in!

#13, short pad just to the short pin, prolly like ~260'

#16 short is like 280'

I think that you can get Swope down under 3900' if you play it right.  Or get it close to 8400' on the Gold layout.

I have had to set it up pretty short for quite a few work functions and team buildings, so it can play pretty darn simple.

An for many people, an Ace is just a bad shot that got lucky is what I have been told.  Your analogy of drop in shots is the best planning!

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Rosedale / Re: My first ACE...kinda
« on: January 19, 2010, 04:10:23 pm »
How many courses that hold doubles have 18 holes that are realistic ace attempts, even in their shortest layout? answer:  Zero


Actually this argument was brought up after a round of the then doubles league at Swope where everything was set up short, and I would argue that there was actually 18 aces possible, so this was what was at the crux of the argument.

You are right though sir, it is a fun argurment.  Except for Nazi' Keizer, and Hippy Dick..... ;D

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Rosedale / Re: My first ACE...kinda
« on: January 19, 2010, 01:45:30 pm »
And that line of thinking is fine as well, but I think that if I want to pay extra I should get two shots at helping my game.  Every team gets two shots, but each person only gets one throw....but if I want to improve my chances, you can bet I'llpay 2x if allowed.  If you don't allow it, then the point has been decided.

I still think that you shuold be allowed the oppt to have 2 shots every throw, just that the Ace Fund is simply the first shot thrown from the tee.  You can, CAN your second shot, get money from the people on the card, but not the ace fund is all that I am saying.

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Rosedale / Re: My first ACE...kinda
« on: January 19, 2010, 01:23:31 pm »
then why can't I pay double at each league and play two rounds thus giving me an extra shot on every hole?

Muscle memory comes into play, and having 2 throws for every shot is an extremely unfair advantage.  

Though you say an emotional response to the pot build, its still a significant amount of money that each person builds, and then one person gets 36 shots at instead of 18 like the rest of the playing field.

The bottom line is that the determination was made years ago, and I for one thought that it made the most sense.  None of this 1/2 the pot, etc....it really boiled down at that time IMO to why should anyone get 36 shots at an ace fund, when everyone else gets 18.

I agree Ace's do not fall outta trees, but given a chance to go at baskets 36 instead of 18 you just increased my chances over EVERYONE, how fair is that?

Its not fair to the rest of the entire field that one person gets the extra chance at an ace on top of the extra throws as well.  Or is it?  If its me, you all are loving my money.....if its Hemme, its unfair, so if its unfair for Master Hemme (just an example) it should be unfair for all.

Hence the decision was made in years past, and the rule about Cali-Aces for the KC club events was set up, and is continued forward in today's world.

Those of you on the EC can bring it up for a vote to change it, the rest of minions will do as minions do. ;D

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Smithville / Re: Smithville Disc Golf Complex
« on: January 18, 2010, 03:28:23 pm »
I do like dual tees, the problem is they are significantly more expensive than multiple pins, which often work just fine in adding the variety to the course.

Actually with the price of Cashen Sleeves at $40, and a tee pad at ~$125, its somewhat more, but not alot any more.... and some P&R have concrete on site that is left over that they can use for really their labor, that they would pay for the sleeve, so, it boils down to what people want out there.

Dual tees is something that currently only Thornfield has in town, and Ted's.  Seems silly that the private courses are the only ones with alternate pads (Down Under as well).....

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