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Does anyone else want to spray paint the WyCo Logo in bright red paint that spells out-
FILLED

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General Banter / Re: Hanging baskets-- not allowed in PDGA events?
« on: March 09, 2010, 03:47:55 PM »
Firearms, and errant 4-wheelers are not needed to take care of issues at Cliff!
 ;D

(I don't care how much fun you think it is!)

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General Banter / Re: Hanging baskets-- not allowed in PDGA events?
« on: March 09, 2010, 03:19:52 PM »
well.....its the truth, but the real truth of the matter is that since we started being active in the park there, all of this has gone down DRASTICALLY.....

Just sayin!
 ;D

Seriously the park has been neglected for years.  We have single handedly given back a large section of that green space back to the community, and in turn to our community.

We have not done it alone, but we have been the organization that has spearheaded this work over the last decade, and it is something to be proud of. 

Its an inner city urban core park that is absolutely beautiful, but a lot of that beauty is from the countless hours that we have given to the park.

There are problems in the park still, and I encourage each and everyone to step up and volunteer in your "local course".  This course just needs more help.  This course needs more people to play it, and this course needs more love.

I am in the process of creating another course within the park, it will be to the East of the existing course.  As that plan comes together we will need more help to ensure the successes that we have seen in the park to date are not neglected, but rather ar emphasized even more to continue to make an even bigger impact in our community.

The park is what the park has become.  We are the stewards of change.  We have started to climb the hill, (which is good, because in 2001 you couldnt see the hill from the trash!) but we have a continual uphill battle without the escalator out of the woods on #6!

I say it tongue in cheek, but if you see any of these activities it is your duty to call 911 about it immediately, and then complete your round.  Its not your job to to do anything but report it. 

Half of the battle is getting the information to the right people.

My number is 913.485.5123, call 911, then call me.  I will make sure that the information gets to the right people, and you should receive good Karma for taking care of the earth, and your course!

So yeah those things happen.  Who in here knows the story about hole #14 and the bank robber shooting.....(hint it happened in 1971....)

The park has a long history, we are merely adding to it.  We can change this perception, that is a lot of power, and it is something that shuold make us all proud.

We are doing great things in bad areas, and we reap the enjoyment of watching plastic hit metal chains, some of us are even lucky enough to get it to stay in the chains.

Above ground, below ground, on a tree, even mini disc golf.....those of you that have seen this course over the last decade know what I am talking about.

Most importantly if you made it to page 4 on this thread, you are already addicted to disc golf, and you should want to see it for yourself!
 :o :-*


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Prairie Center / Re: 03-08-10 GLOW finale
« on: March 09, 2010, 12:41:55 PM »
I pay for people on my card.  That's it.  Casual, League, or Tournament.  I think paying if you see something is your own choice.  Would you expect for 20 people to pay at hole 1 at down under league? 

I would, but then again thats me, and I expect that same courtesy from all fellow disc golfers.

I can honestly say that I have paid for every ace that I have seen.

I paid $11 the and had only thrown 2 drives two weeks ago on money towards other people......

Again thats me, and I hope that the Karma gods smile favorably on me either on this planet, or the one beyond....

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Prairie Center / Re: 03-08-10 GLOW finale
« on: March 09, 2010, 10:31:29 AM »
The rules of the $5-$1 club are quite simple. 

If you see an ace you pay $5 to the person hitting the ace.

If you see someone hitting the basket or above chains (Tops of Innova, flag poles, number plates do NOT count) you pay them a $1.

The only time it is not ok to pay someone is if they are emptying their bag, and its not their first shot.  If you are playing casually with another player and it gets hit, its worth $5 to see it and talk about it.

I've paid on aces that I barely have seen, someone will throw it and scream, then I'll pay, though I only saw them tee off.  Thats me, some people say that they have to either witness the entire shot, or be on the card (if you did not see it, and you are on the card, you SHOULD PAY (not a must, but only because this is totally optional) or feel shame and ridicule for not ponying up!) in order to get paid.

The bottom line is that typically before each round, I'll ask who is in the "51 Club", and if they don't know I'll explain it, or they say yes or no, and you know where you stand!

Atta boy Drew!

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General Banter / Re: Hanging baskets-- not allowed in PDGA events?
« on: March 09, 2010, 10:21:55 AM »
... if a hanging basket is going in, Cliff Drive is the most logical choice, in my humble opinion.

If for no other reason than to annoy Jack, it's the perfect location.  :P

Of course it is, why wouldn't I be all riled up otherwise?

Trash, dead bodies, burnt cars, homeless shelters, johns getting happy, hanging baskets, all the fun you to can soon have at Cliff Drive.....

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General Banter / Re: Hanging baskets-- not allowed in PDGA events?
« on: March 09, 2010, 08:47:49 AM »
Don't you have code to compile????
 ??? ??? ??? ??? :o :o :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D ;D
 :-*

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General Banter / Re: Hanging baskets-- not allowed in PDGA events?
« on: March 09, 2010, 08:42:35 AM »
Again,

ITS MY DECISION AS A TD TO USE THE COURSE AS I SEE FIT (except for the worlds last year, as I relinquished that responsibility), just as it is for any TD to make the call.

Rick said in 2005 they used a Hanging basket at the Worlds, in 2007 they had one in a Tree that was 7' off the ground, this year at the memorial, you have to step on hay bales.....

All things that apparently other people are fine with, I am not.  Although I don't mind playing on this type of craziness, I am also not going to "force" someone else to play that way.  I think that we have enough challenges with litter and other crap in our courses to not artificially create these things. 

I am not a big proponent of OB ropes/lines either, but I understand their usefulness in certain holes, and areas.

Its a choice, I choose NO!
(your opinion may vary)

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Prairie Center / Re: 03-08-10 GLOW finale
« on: March 08, 2010, 09:30:14 PM »
Monday Night HERO.......well I got the good word......hehehehehe.....League Monday next week at Cliff Drive....who is running that league again?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Bobby's bringing Ace Beer from last year.....some other people may have to wait for ace beer until next season........


hehehehehehehehe

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General Banter / Re: Hanging baskets-- not allowed in PDGA events?
« on: March 08, 2010, 09:27:52 PM »
I am in favor of a dunk tank, though I am concerned about the uses it might see at Cliff Drive......... ???

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General Banter / Re: Hanging baskets-- not allowed in PDGA events?
« on: March 08, 2010, 02:15:23 PM »
they move.

Nothing else needs to be said.

It alters the score, it alters the perception, and its not a target that is stationary, so therefore in tournament play its a mockery.

Don't get me wrong, i think that they look cool and all, but what device are you using to hang this basket?

Cutting into the rocks seems silly to me as well.

It will MOVE, someone can bump it, someone will move it everytime they get their disc out.  It moves, it therefore alters the next shot.

Even if you say that they put it back to keep it from moving, the perception of the target is that it will move again, and then changes the way that you actually putt at a target.  I putt differently at different targets.  I know that the Mach III has a possible spitout that is highly probable at 2:25-2:45 looking at the basket, so I try not to hit it there, or if so without as much force.  Innova, the colorfull tops, make mee feel as though its a magnet to throw it higher, Titan's, I have seem to find very little fault with other than its a GDS product, though I have spit through the cage on the first run of them, I think that was fixed in the second fabrication.

So I think that its cool, I just don't think that it belongs on a disc golf course that is being played competitively, and at no point will I ever allow it as a TD.  But I AM NOT THE ONLY TD, so if you get someone else that thinks its a great idea, and they want to run the event, and use it, its their choice.

My choice is clear, again its my choice.

I do not want to see the band ever get hurt, and I would really like to not populate that area where the stage is for anything.  THat part of the park is erosion prone, and we are trying to get it mowed frequently, and putting more items in there, may deter those silly mower guys from getting anything done the right way (even more so).  That part of the park is the first piece that we need to get them (mowers and city) to take care of, the hole area there from 7's basket, all the way up to the short pin thats there on 8.

Again though the Hanging basket looks cool, its just not cool for scoring in events that require score.  It alters and can be altered many scores.

No where in the PDGA rule book is there a listing about not having one, Dan misled you, but in the minds of people that have played them, and see what they can do to alter a person's mindset by something so manageable, I will not use it as such.

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General Banter / Re: A Gentle Etiquette Reminder
« on: March 08, 2010, 01:59:50 PM »
yeah, some people do, some don't.  And if I don't hear anyone ask, I may ignore them....I'll watch the people behind me for cluse, if they look content to sit at the bench and watch us throw, then I won't say anything...if they look anxious, then ill say something to our group, and yell em through.

What I really hate though (not really hate...but annoys me) is when you yell someone through and they try to play the hole as if they are a part of your group.....grab it, throw it, and play on through it! :)

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General Banter / Re: Hanging baskets-- not allowed in PDGA events?
« on: March 08, 2010, 01:20:57 PM »
I will not use a hanging basket in PDGA events ever, so if you want it used for the local events, thats fine, but at point am I going to have different shots at different times of the day determine scores.

I would also chime in with the notion that I would not like to see the hanging basket at CLiff Drive in the open fairways, but rather would encourage its use in the wooded holes (where the wind is less significant).

I don't like the novelty of hanging baskets.  I played the courses in Council Bluffs, and the Ozarks, and I think that hanging baskets, baskets in trees, etc...are a mockery of a target, and deserve no place in a competitive environment.

That being said, having one to thorw at for fun, can be entertaining, but one for official score keeping, is right up there with playing with a Whamo on today's courses......

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General Banter / Re: A Gentle Etiquette Reminder
« on: March 08, 2010, 01:01:03 PM »
Typically, if your in a small group, and you see a big group, I'd just holler, Hey, Coming through, and raise my discs and make sure everyone knows whats happening.

I'd then try my best small talk about, looks like your group is having a blast.....if you get a few distant stares, no biggie in my world, I just have other things to do....

Golf courses require you let people play through, but they also require nothing bigger than a 4-some, unless something special is going on, and the course is closed.  So anyone with a hint of ettiquette is never going to deny you a right to passage.....
Of course they may have known it was you, figured, that sandbagger needs the practice........ ;D

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Shawnee Mission / Re: League Play
« on: March 08, 2010, 12:14:26 PM »
My understanding is that there will be an ":official league", with money exchanging hands and everything out there this year.....

Maybe those that volunteered their time can post something on here about it.....

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