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General Banter / Re: Hanging baskets-- not allowed in PDGA events?
« on: March 09, 2010, 08:42:35 AM »

ITS MY DECISION AS A TD TO USE THE COURSE AS I SEE FIT (except for the worlds last year, as I relinquished that responsibility), just as it is for any TD to make the call.

Rick said in 2005 they used a Hanging basket at the Worlds, in 2007 they had one in a Tree that was 7' off the ground, this year at the memorial, you have to step on hay bales.....

All things that apparently other people are fine with, I am not.  Although I don't mind playing on this type of craziness, I am also not going to "force" someone else to play that way.  I think that we have enough challenges with litter and other crap in our courses to not artificially create these things. 

I am not a big proponent of OB ropes/lines either, but I understand their usefulness in certain holes, and areas.

Its a choice, I choose NO!
(your opinion may vary)

Prairie Center / Re: 03-08-10 GLOW finale
« on: March 08, 2010, 09:30:14 PM »
Monday Night HERO.......well I got the good word......hehehehehe.....League Monday next week at Cliff Drive....who is running that league again?


Bobby's bringing Ace Beer from last year.....some other people may have to wait for ace beer until next season........


General Banter / Re: Hanging baskets-- not allowed in PDGA events?
« on: March 08, 2010, 09:27:52 PM »
I am in favor of a dunk tank, though I am concerned about the uses it might see at Cliff Drive......... ???

General Banter / Re: Hanging baskets-- not allowed in PDGA events?
« on: March 08, 2010, 02:15:23 PM »
they move.

Nothing else needs to be said.

It alters the score, it alters the perception, and its not a target that is stationary, so therefore in tournament play its a mockery.

Don't get me wrong, i think that they look cool and all, but what device are you using to hang this basket?

Cutting into the rocks seems silly to me as well.

It will MOVE, someone can bump it, someone will move it everytime they get their disc out.  It moves, it therefore alters the next shot.

Even if you say that they put it back to keep it from moving, the perception of the target is that it will move again, and then changes the way that you actually putt at a target.  I putt differently at different targets.  I know that the Mach III has a possible spitout that is highly probable at 2:25-2:45 looking at the basket, so I try not to hit it there, or if so without as much force.  Innova, the colorfull tops, make mee feel as though its a magnet to throw it higher, Titan's, I have seem to find very little fault with other than its a GDS product, though I have spit through the cage on the first run of them, I think that was fixed in the second fabrication.

So I think that its cool, I just don't think that it belongs on a disc golf course that is being played competitively, and at no point will I ever allow it as a TD.  But I AM NOT THE ONLY TD, so if you get someone else that thinks its a great idea, and they want to run the event, and use it, its their choice.

My choice is clear, again its my choice.

I do not want to see the band ever get hurt, and I would really like to not populate that area where the stage is for anything.  THat part of the park is erosion prone, and we are trying to get it mowed frequently, and putting more items in there, may deter those silly mower guys from getting anything done the right way (even more so).  That part of the park is the first piece that we need to get them (mowers and city) to take care of, the hole area there from 7's basket, all the way up to the short pin thats there on 8.

Again though the Hanging basket looks cool, its just not cool for scoring in events that require score.  It alters and can be altered many scores.

No where in the PDGA rule book is there a listing about not having one, Dan misled you, but in the minds of people that have played them, and see what they can do to alter a person's mindset by something so manageable, I will not use it as such.

General Banter / Re: A Gentle Etiquette Reminder
« on: March 08, 2010, 01:59:50 PM »
yeah, some people do, some don't.  And if I don't hear anyone ask, I may ignore them....I'll watch the people behind me for cluse, if they look content to sit at the bench and watch us throw, then I won't say anything...if they look anxious, then ill say something to our group, and yell em through.

What I really hate though (not really hate...but annoys me) is when you yell someone through and they try to play the hole as if they are a part of your group.....grab it, throw it, and play on through it! :)

General Banter / Re: Hanging baskets-- not allowed in PDGA events?
« on: March 08, 2010, 01:20:57 PM »
I will not use a hanging basket in PDGA events ever, so if you want it used for the local events, thats fine, but at point am I going to have different shots at different times of the day determine scores.

I would also chime in with the notion that I would not like to see the hanging basket at CLiff Drive in the open fairways, but rather would encourage its use in the wooded holes (where the wind is less significant).

I don't like the novelty of hanging baskets.  I played the courses in Council Bluffs, and the Ozarks, and I think that hanging baskets, baskets in trees, etc...are a mockery of a target, and deserve no place in a competitive environment.

That being said, having one to thorw at for fun, can be entertaining, but one for official score keeping, is right up there with playing with a Whamo on today's courses......

General Banter / Re: A Gentle Etiquette Reminder
« on: March 08, 2010, 01:01:03 PM »
Typically, if your in a small group, and you see a big group, I'd just holler, Hey, Coming through, and raise my discs and make sure everyone knows whats happening.

I'd then try my best small talk about, looks like your group is having a blast.....if you get a few distant stares, no biggie in my world, I just have other things to do....

Golf courses require you let people play through, but they also require nothing bigger than a 4-some, unless something special is going on, and the course is closed.  So anyone with a hint of ettiquette is never going to deny you a right to passage.....
Of course they may have known it was you, figured, that sandbagger needs the practice........ ;D

Shawnee Mission / Re: League Play
« on: March 08, 2010, 12:14:26 PM »
My understanding is that there will be an ":official league", with money exchanging hands and everything out there this year.....

Maybe those that volunteered their time can post something on here about it.....

General Banter / Re: A Gentle Etiquette Reminder
« on: March 08, 2010, 10:48:52 AM »
you didnt say anything to them?

I usually will say something when we catch up.....something like, you mind if we tee of with you folks real quick......

Clearing out the three holes from 16 for the event then?

Cliff Drive / Re: March pin settings
« on: March 08, 2010, 10:43:36 AM »
We played it as OB a few times, but it was declared prior to the league starting....

Tournaments / Re: Kan U Wyco Doubles Sat March 13th
« on: March 05, 2010, 01:40:03 PM »
Ill be at the texas tech, texas a&m Big 12 championship game on Saturday.... :-*

Kan-UB-Leftovers Dubs

Prairie Center Olathe KS
Sunday 14th March

2 Rounds
Random Draw Dub
100% payout
(5/10 $ each let me know what you think)

I Will Be There Please Let Me Know If You Will
And If Anyone Shows Up At WYCO Send Them Our Way.

Its the Kan-U-Play in the bad weather tournament.  I expect, cold, drizzle, and a chance of Pork Chops for lunch, and dinner!

MMMMMMMM.....fresh Iowa Pork Chops!  YUM!

General Banter / Re: The Memorial
« on: March 05, 2010, 09:42:25 AM »
Wow, if disc golf ever gets covered by ESPN or something else like it I think Crazy has got a job locked up.

Crazy is a "pro" at announcing, one of the many talents that man has.  There is a reason that he has MC'd some of the biggest events that Kansas City has ever seen.  We are blessed that he has the "disc golf bug" we can only hope that he helps make a difference in our sport in every way that he can.

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