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Shawnee Mission / Re: How can we improve course maintenance?
« on: June 16, 2008, 11:06:48 AM »
excellent, tact and diplomacy.  That is all that we can ask from the players!!

It is a work in progress, and we will all work together on this.

Thanks,

Jack

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General Banter / Worlds Meeting tonight 6-16-08 @ 8pm @ River Market
« on: June 16, 2008, 09:32:00 AM »
A Reminder that the Meeting for rhe Worlds will be tonight from 8-9 at River Market Brewery, 5th and Walnut.

The meetings will start to get a little more involved as we move forward.

Please plan on attending if you want to help make a difference in the 2009 Worlds.

If you plan on playing, that is fine, we can use help up to the event as well, and more people will only help us with our pursuit to WOW everyone here in KC next year!!

Jack
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Jack Lowe
Vice President-KCFDC
Tournament Director 2009 Pro Worlds
http://www.KCFDC.org
http://www.PDGA.com
816.231.3622-H
913.485.5123-C
"Disc Golf-
Like ball golf, only faster,
cheaper, and healthier!"

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Club Archives / Worlds Meeting tonight 6-16-08 @ 8pm @ River Market
« on: June 16, 2008, 09:31:39 AM »
A Reminder that the Meeting for rhe Worlds will be tonight from 8-9 at River Market Brewery, 5th and Walnut.

The meetings will start to get a little more involved as we move forward.

Please plan on attending if you want to help make a difference in the 2009 Worlds.

If you plan on playing, that is fine, we can use help up to the event as well, and more people will only help us with our pursuit to WOW everyone here in KC next year!!

Jack
--
===o {>[]----

Jack Lowe
Vice President-KCFDC
Tournament Director 2009 Pro Worlds
http://www.KCFDC.org
http://www.PDGA.com
816.231.3622-H
913.485.5123-C
"Disc Golf-
Like ball golf, only faster,
cheaper, and healthier!"

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Shawnee Mission / Re: How can we improve course maintenance?
« on: June 11, 2008, 09:15:17 AM »
They have been aware of the mowing on several conversations, but have not enacted yet, hopefully this is a minor speed bump in the process, and not something that is indicative of a larger problem with SM.

Plus new leadership has recently taken place, so lets give them some time before we bash them.

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Club Archives / Re: 2008 KC Wide Open
« on: June 10, 2008, 03:32:42 PM »
WRONG.

I bet you see Ken Climo start to get into the tournaments that are Master Age protected.  We have many of them that base their decisions on who has entered, it happens ALL THE TIME LOCALLY, not evwen PDGA, but leagues wise we haev people that move from one to the other.

It is accepted practices in our sport, our sport is not PGA, maybe you need to re-read what was posted by me earlier, it does not matter what Ball Golf does, we are not Ball golf, we are not set up by standards as ball golf, and the copmarisons are pointless, and not germane.

That seems to be the argument by many that had issue with it, but the reality is that the rules allow it, he does it, and others do it.  I have done, will do it again if it allows, you play within the guidelines that the governing body tells you.  You make a decision to be in that level, and you move forward, those posting discussions about how he is a bagger are entitled to that opine, but in all honesty he did not break any rules, he has not done anything that was never seen before, and he was not even the highest rated player in the division.

Because he chose to play within the guidelines, people feel the need to call him out, I say thats just foolish.  Chastize those that don't play by the rules, those that do, give them credit, and thank them for playing, he did ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING WRONG.

Except play well in an endurance test called the Wide Open this weekend.  IMO the Adv Men had a harder go at this w/e than the pros did.  5 rounds vs 4, earlier tee times....I would have played Pro if I was playing, I like my sleep, and would have donated, but see last year, I did the same thing.  OPINION matters none on this, rules and procedures are in place to let Mike do what he needs to do.

You go MIKE!
 :-*

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Club Archives / Re: 2008 KC Wide Open
« on: June 10, 2008, 01:14:55 PM »
but you are missing the point.  He played by the rules, and therefore is not "sandbaggin" other than in the minds of the rest of us reading this.

Last cash shot -3, and who is to say that Mike would have shot the same in the Open pool, he barely would have made "cash" based on the scoring that is there, with other courses.  It is typical in our sport that the top 1-2 Adv players could have had a chance at "cashing", happens all the time.  Our rules are different than PGA rules, as different as our sport is. 

Personally I hate trying to compare the two sports because as closely as they are aligned, they are just as far apart as well.  You use a club to hit a ball in golf.  In disc golf, you use your arms, legs, and hips to move the disc, there is much more physical exertion in disc golf than there is in golf.  The only thing that really is the same is the terminology, almost every other aspect of the game is different.

You really don't think that a professional golfer wouldn't take advantage of a rule?  How about any professional athlete, or coach for that matter.  Icing the kicker comes to mind for me.....Rules are there to follow, and interpretation of them can help, and hinder another, if they choose to use it accordingly, then so beit, if not, then the choice is theirs.  Rico on #14 chose not to take the full meter in from OB, and missed the putt, I let him know to come in he has a meter, but I think that he was upset by missing the OB, even his card was confused as to the OB, except Brinster, who listened during the PLAYERS MEETING, and asked this exact question, if on the wall, is it in or out, the answer was OUT. 

Paying attention to all the fine details does help improve the game, so I say if Mike felt as thuogh that he needed a win to get himself into the game better, then great for him!

I tend to think that the term "sandbaggin" comes from jealousy more than anything else, see I have 10 & k of diamonds, flop comes up A J Q diamonds, ur holding A-A, turn comes up A-Spades, your 4/kind stinks...., and stunk the entire time, you still had a good hand, just I'm better!
:)

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Club Archives / Re: Photos?
« on: June 10, 2008, 12:58:32 PM »
and would I contact her by sending smoke signals?

Thanks for the help, a better way may be to say this is how you get in touch with her......

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Club Archives / Re: Photos?
« on: June 10, 2008, 10:59:27 AM »
Yeah Chelios looks like he worked up a sweat eating and drinking during the game. 

But I need a shot of Rico for the PDGA, and I did not take any........

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Club Archives / Photos?
« on: June 10, 2008, 10:10:11 AM »
I am looking for a photo of Rico playing here this weekend, anyone have one?

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Cliff Drive / Re: Tee Pads
« on: June 09, 2008, 09:40:43 PM »
Man I just missed ya, I got out there ~ 7....... :-*

I will get some things in order, then main thing that needs to be done is a workday to clear out where #1 really is going to be, down in the bowl there, and I need to get over there during a hard rain (hmmmm wonder when I coulda done that lately?) too look at the runoff, and then also I am requesting some PIAC $$$ for other thigns within the park that may slightly affect the design, so I would want to go ahead and move the course prior to the pads on a few holes.

I want to get out there and clean up 1-8 as well, would like to take it one hole per day, probably starting next weekend.......

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Club Archives / Re: 2008 KC Wide Open
« on: June 09, 2008, 09:34:42 PM »
Mike made a choice to play advanced, he can and chooses to.  I play open and advanced as well, I am no way comparing myself to Mike, but depending on multiple situations, picking and choosing what division to play can change with the wind. 

It is too bad it took a possible win away from Justin, but by another stretch, it should make Justin that more hungry to play, and knowing that he came that close to beating someone who has had success on the tour should only increase his desire to improve, and make him a better player in the long run.

As for Andy, yeah he probably should go back to Int, when he gets beat there, he really wouldn't have any excuses then would he?  And can you imagine what Brian would say if he beat him online, that is worthe the price of admission on the discussion thread.

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Shawnee Mission / Re: Course Improvements
« on: June 09, 2008, 05:46:47 PM »
Please do contact the P&R directly.  Stopping in the office during business hours is probably best, if you can be civil and extremely polite, and ask if they have a mow schedule that would be great.

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Club Archives / Tee Times Are up for Satruday
« on: June 06, 2008, 09:53:52 PM »
 Tee times are up.  They changed slghtly after cleaning them up had a few bad time slots, NO ONE got an earlier time frame, and nothing is less than 15 minutes difference.

I do apologize, and what fun it was to watch.  Good luck to everyone tomorrow.

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7287

Jack

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Rosedale / Re: Rosedale League 6/4
« on: June 05, 2008, 03:59:03 PM »
I just want you to feel the love heading into the weekend!  You and your sandbaggin ways and all....

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Rosedale / Re: Rosedale League 6/4
« on: June 05, 2008, 02:20:45 PM »
Go Brian Palmer!

 >:(

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