Bunc'r are stupid.
enough said, if you can't figure out where your disc went out with your group, then you are not paying attention.
Mandos are stupid and a bad design typically that stinks, work the hole so that the thrower has options.
Fabricated OB is something that the USDGC decided to create, and in some instances it makes sense. It can be creative and cool, but can also be stupid and dumb. Some of the land that we have to use is BORING, and creating obstacles or OB's is the only way that we can make a course more interesting. If the hole is challenging, and though provoking, I am all for it.
"Uhhh, why? Everyone will be all over that hole. Hell, double even triple bogeys then...."--YES exactly, a hole with a bunch of different scores indicates that there are options and pitfalls for playing it, it creates a thought process, and forces you to.......wait for it........THINK, not just get up and throw. I take this into consideration on all holes that I work with, and that is why I hate afew holes at Cliff Drive, but it is also why I have ideas for the BORING segment, and why there is a balance of left to right and right to left shots to create thought process within the game.
I was less than 15' away CD, and there was no wind. So phhhllllttttt!