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Bag Tags / Re: 2009 Tags??
« on: December 09, 2008, 10:37:00 AM »
My suggestion was the top 25 players get the top 25 bag tags, the rest go into circulation at the Ice Bowl.  But I made the suggestion that based on the amount of rouds played the top 25 people get the first shot at them.  It still keeps the lower numbers in play with casual groups (though that was not ever the INTENT of the BAGTAG when we started) but the reality is that some people just like to have them and play within thier little clique.  And if you win it at the Ice Bowl on your card in the 9 holes, then it may vanish......

Tags were to be distributed envenly, and the top 10 tags were to be played in a club event at least once a week I believe from the initial rules....  They were modified, but initially you HAD to play in a league or event every week for the top 10.  That is still the way that it should be, those are the most coveted tagts, and they should be always in play, not hidden in little groups of people that are selfish.

If you want to get a top 10 tag, you should have to be lpaying for it not hording it.  So my initial top 25, maybe should be top 10....but I still feel that almost anything under 20 is good that is the top 10% of the tags, and we should see those in regular play, so I would support a top 20 list of the following based on old information.....7/23 last ratings I have saved
Arturo Villarreal   64
Andy Lewis   62
John Chapman   57
Dick Parker   55
Caleb Walker   54
Heberto Villarreal   52
Dean Uhlman   50
Kevin Hart   49
Steve Harris   45
Tavish Sanders   45
Leo Daprato   42
Becky Stebbins   39
Otto Spiers   36
Tom Butler   36
Bryan Guthrie   35
Jamie Barry   35
Rick Rothstein   35
Dave Hemmeline   34
Brian Gammon   34
Fred Fortson   34
Brian Palmer   34

Based on this, the top 21 would be there, because of a tie.

Please tell me again why someone that doesn't play league or club events should be harboring a top 20 tag to at least start off?  And I really feel as though the top 10 rule needs to not only be in effect, but should be tailored to shame those people that do not play.  If you are not playing with the club in events, then why do you need a tag?  THe other thing we could do to make this whole thing moot is just raise dues again and give a tag to every player every year......

Club Archives / Next meeting January 6th @ TMS-7:15
« on: December 09, 2008, 09:57:41 AM »
The first Combined EC and Worlds Meeting will be January 6, 2009 at TMS, 701 Southwest Boulevard, KC, KS at 6:00 p.m the EC meeting will start, please allow at least an hour or so before the Worlds meeting will start.  Worlds meeting will be about an hour as well.

« on: December 09, 2008, 09:26:08 AM »
its all on me with Cliff Drive.  I need to get it done.  THe city is waiting for me to move, not me on the I need to find time to make these happen.

I will keep everyone posted on the dates to do work.  I may try to get some items this week taken care of.  I am going to see about getting the wood sent to my house tomorrow, and then start to work on Saturday and Sunday this week, as weather should be 50's.

Blue Valley / Re: A disc is not that important....
« on: December 04, 2008, 12:53:15 PM »
or that James Bond car.......but since the water was drained there a few years back, I wonder how many discs are left in there.  We took out the hole that has the over the water shot.....maybe need to put that back in.....

Blue Valley / A disc is not that important....
« on: December 04, 2008, 11:36:13 AM »
This is not the best way to retireve a disc from the lake.....

Car submerged in KC lake
Kansas City firefighters are trying to determine whether anyone is inside a car submerged in a pond at Blue Valley Park.

Dispatchers sent emergency crews to the site at 24th and Topping streets about 10:05 a.m. They reported that the top of the car was about a foot below the surface, and the car may have gone into the pond during the night.

Bag Tags / Re: 2009 Tags??
« on: December 03, 2008, 11:19:54 AM »
and get it out of certain guys KNOW WHAT I MEAN!!!! :o

Bag Tags / Re: 2009 Tags??
« on: December 03, 2008, 10:34:47 AM »
I know of a couple of singel digit tags that never made it in the circulation, and that was not to be the case. 

I think that since we kept stats for most leagues all year and events for ratings, one could even argue going with the ratings for those that played in at least 15-20 leagues.

Giving the low tags to the people that play the most though makes sense.  I mean Dick played in a lot of leagues, and he lost many tags, and would not qualify  for a good # because, well....look at his scores ;D

My suggestion was to give out the top 25 to the people that play the most leagues, that way initially you will have the top 25 in circulation when leagues starts, and everything after that would be based on losing the good number.

But hey its really about bragging rights, but not seeing a couple of the tags out there this year sorta ticked me off........and certain groups that only play within themselves for tags is frustrating, the club works towards this, not the individual cliques.....

Buy more MONARCH's!!!

Legacy Park - Lee's Summit / Re: Hole Distances - Current Configuration
« on: December 02, 2008, 05:04:44 PM »
Thanks Ryan,

We miss you.

House lost 6 games in a row and made the playoffs....I still can't figure that out......

This course has had its share of issues.  It has some great people working with the city on it, and we have a fine ambassador in Mr Palmer to help facilitate what the city wants.  Park changes, originally planned in 1997.....neighbors protesting.....

What we want to get away from is us doing the work for the city.  Volunteer hours are needed always in disc golf, but in areas that have more available manpower to support local efforts, (LSPR does for this), lets let them do it.  We currently have over 14 courses in the metropolitan area, this is a stark contrast to the start of the decade.

Is every course going to be world class, no, should it, no.  Enjoy the fact that you are in one if not the most spoiled part of the world for disc golf.  Many great people have helped to promote the sport to help with this insurgence.  Many of them are no longer playing, or live here, but set forth the groundwork for new people to step up and help.

With every new course it changes.  LSPR tried to do a few things that they felt would work, others talked with them to help encourage some minor changes, and I feel as though those are the communication lines that are important.  The best way to help, is to support what they are doing, get it in the ground, work with the changes and evolutions that will happen with any course, and let people play our sport.  If people don't like it, guess what, there is another course less than 20 minutes away, as a matter of fact there will be 3-5 courses within 20 minutes of it.

Our sport will have slug bugs, they get you going, and then you find a Chevy, then a caddy, then you see someone in a red Ferrari, and you follow them, and then you join the local club, then you join the PDGA, then you help run a worlds, then like an idiot you help with another worlds to help your city get even more disc golf........

Bottom line, if you are reading this, then you should let me know how you want to help with the Worlds.  Typing in this room is good for some things, but it really does nothing to help.  Actions speak louder than words, and for the most part we have many people that type a mean game, and show up infrequent to help with the remainder of the work.

Those of you helping, thanks as always, the rest of you think about what you truly can do to make this sport better.  It really starts with joining the club, if you are not member of it (Dr. Ryan you can be excused for leaving the Continent, and then choosing to return to a warmer climate!) then what are you really doing to help support the club that has been around since there was one course.  Swope, then Rosedale, and that’s all you could play until Olathe, and that’s all you could play until WaterWorks, and that’s all you could play until......somebody came to help build more and develop relationships with the P&R so that Disc Golf became a value added partner with the P&R, not the hippie sport that people sometimes feel it is.  

We are a great group of people, don't ruin it by thinking that the P&R are not "professional disc golf designers", they are not, but they can learn from our comments constructively and in the right fashion, not spiteful and harmful sayings with cheek and tongue comments.

Did I spew enough to kill this thread yet?

Meeting tonight for the once in a lifetime experience to help ensure KC's place in history.

How will you help it be that?


Club Archives / Worlds Meeting 12-2 @ 7pm @ River Market
« on: December 01, 2008, 12:16:42 PM »
As stated at the Club Meeting, we will be meeting at the River Market for the last Worlds meeting of the year.

This is basically to look at new art, start to finalize projects, and work on new ideas to reach out to others that want to help.

After this meeting, all Executive meetings and the Worlds Meetings will be together on the same night.  So our next meeting is slated for 1/6 I believe at TMS, after the EC meeting.

Blue Valley / Re: Missing Tee Sign at 14
« on: December 01, 2008, 12:14:41 PM »
its been out for almost a year now, it is at Cashen's shop.

Thanks for posting though, if it was missing, we would want to know about it.


General Banter / Re: Workday Equipment - Call to Arms
« on: November 13, 2008, 03:24:57 PM »
Bill Neenan has the Weed whipper not I.

General Banter / Re: Shawnee Mission Course
« on: November 13, 2008, 10:17:11 AM »

This is not a course that is open for a re-design.  There are VERY specific parameters that the park has given with the lay of the land.

I am working with JCPRD, on this as is Dirk if you want to help, get involved with the people that have been working on this project for over 5 years now.

If you want to help there will be some work days, and that would be the best method.  If you want to go out and look at opeiongs, and such that is fine, but please be mindful that many many hours and administration changes have taken place, so we must be careful, and more importantly we have to be as one.

Winter Leagues / Re: 11/6/08 Water Works Glow
« on: November 12, 2008, 11:10:48 AM »
2 people I haven't seen FOREVER, what ever happened to Enos?  I understand that there have been Kevin Smith sightings this true....

General Banter / Re: Legacy Park Course in Lee's Summit
« on: November 10, 2008, 06:07:10 PM »
leaving thursday!!!

Winter Leagues / Re: 11/6/08 Water Works Glow
« on: November 07, 2008, 02:06:55 PM »
thats a SICK ace fund....

Has it ever been hit?

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