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Cliff Drive / Re: Pin Placements
« on: September 20, 2016, 03:26:29 PM »
Wandering Wednesday, also aligning with Mighty Mo Configuration
1-Original-432 (par 4)
7-First Gapper-300
Front 9 par 28 (2805)
10-middle Tree line-324
11-Around back side resrvoir-492
15-under Tree-320
16-Hillside strangler-360
18-Roadside-495 (par 4)
Back 9 par 28 (3622)
Total Par 56 6427'

Will work on getting most of this set for tomorrow's Wandering Wednesday league.

Cliff Drive / Re: Wandering Wednesday to cliff drive 9.21
« on: September 20, 2016, 02:59:49 PM »
What I may try to do is move basket tonight for you Mike and get it in the set up for the Mighty MO for everyone.

There is an event on the club championship weekend as well that I need to set up an easier course for.  I will post in here a little later, but I will "shrink" it down some for certain.

I now am understanding Steeler's comment

General Banter / Re: Change is Coming - Today - 8/31/16!!!
« on: September 14, 2016, 02:35:56 PM »
I'll dodge that comment....

Leagues / Re: Leagues PDGA NE Style--2016 Monday nights in HNE
« on: September 12, 2016, 05:07:26 PM »
I am in the middle of a conference call.  Suffice it to say I won't be making it to league, if someone can get it moving I can try to get out there at the end.

Major restructuring in my company was announced at 4:00 today.  I got a heads up for a conference call at 4:45-5 at 2.....I am still on it, and my boss wants to have a meeting following it.

Sorry folks.  The life of an all volunteer group does have it's limits.

Danger is out there and we will start teeing at 5:30.

5:30 for the remaining couple of weeks left.

Leagues / Re: The Return of Wandering Wednesday
« on: September 07, 2016, 10:26:03 AM »
Looks correct, the course has a fresh mow as well. Sorry, I won't be able to make it out tonight. Have fun guys!

looks great

Blue Valley / Course Closed Septmeber 16-17 2016
« on: September 06, 2016, 11:04:13 AM »

There will be a bicycle event that will be running through Blue Valley, namely holes 1, 10, 12, 13 on the big course, and about 1/2 of the Executive course.

Any damage to the course will be repaired by the group, but it is a positive activity within the park that we need.

Looks to be a pretty cool event, they are planning about ~150 riders on the course.

Come on out to watch!

Tournaments / Re: Kansas City Juniors Open- Oct 1st, 2016
« on: September 06, 2016, 10:13:48 AM »
historically I don't think that it will. 
Ft. Scott is this upcoming weekend though, a nice day trip and one-day event....

Been searching for some things disc golf related on old information.  I ran across this article.  This was at a forum that many disc golfers attended (I believe myself, Ed Gonzales, Dirk Hacker were in attendance at this meeting in particular)  We had already met with the P&R about getting something moving, but this was sort of the starting point to truly look to move some DG in the public forum into the JoCo county parks.  The plans were in place at this point to get SMP as a permanent course, and to move forward with plans to get one at Heritage.  The initial map for Heritage is far from our conversations back in 2002, 2003, but the goal was a DG course and it happened.  This is why having a club in town is so important.  Organizations can share in making things happen.  As people change out of the leadership roles, there are pieces in place to help ensure things don't get lost even when they do.

We have a great club, we have a great organization, and we have many to thank.  Help be a part, do you part and represent KC Disc golf well!

Consultant suggests closing dog, horse areas at SM Park
By:Rob Roberts, Sun Staff Writer    September 25, 2003
A consultant's presentation of proposed master-plan changes for Shawnee Mission Park, 79th Street and Renner Road, on Tuesday was anything but a dog-and-pony show.

The recommendations from Land Plan Engineering, announced during a public meeting at the Tomahawk Recreation Complex in Shawnee, called for moving a popular off-leash dog area out of the 2,000-acre county park and ending the pasturing of horses in the 360-acre Oak Ridge area in the northernmost portion of the park.

Only about 50 horse-owning families and 63 horses currently use the Oak Ridge area, Doug Pickert of Land Plan Engineering told the 100 residents in attendance Tuesday, and his firm feels the area could be better used by being made accessible to the masses through development of hiking and mountain-biking trails there.

Ron Copeland, who pastures two horses at Oak Ridge, didn't disagree that the area should be opened to hikers and bikers. But he said that shouldn't preclude the pasturing of horses there.

"I'm upset that they would recommend doing away with the pasturing," Copeland said. "The horses could be confined in a fourth of the vast area they're in now, and that would allow both the trails and the horses."

Many people currently bring their children to the Oak Ridge area just to see the horses, Copeland said, adding that removing the horses would be removing one of Shawnee Mission Park's attractions.

It would also create a hardship for him personally, he said.

As a captain of the Shawnee Police Department, Copeland said, he has to live within the city of Shawnee, where Oak Ridge represents the only nearby, reasonably priced alternative for pasturing his horses.

In addition to being close to his home, the captain said, the Oak Ridge pastures afford him and other local horse lovers with quick access to the Shawnee Mission Park horse trails, which the consultants say should continue to exist, with or without the pasturing.

Horse owners pay $120 per horse per month to keep their horses at Oak Ridge, Copeland added, and those fees represent more than $80,000 in annual revenue that could be used for other improvements called for by the new master-plan recommendations.

Currently, Pickert said, there is no funding identified for any of the proposed improvements, nor will any of the improvements be set in concrete until they are acted on by the county park board, likely in December.

By then, the consultants should have cost estimates developed for the improvements they are recommending for Shawnee Mission Park, as well as Ernie Miller Nature Center and Heritage Park, both in Olathe.

Public hearings were held last spring to solicit input for new 20-year master plans for those parks, as prescribed by the county's MAP 2020 plan.

Using that input, Land Plan Engineering consultants, with input from county park and recreation officials, developed the "3 Plans for 3 Parks" recommendations that were to be presented during separate meetings for each park between Tuesday and tonight.

One piece of input that the officials didn't bite on was a suggestion last spring that Shawnee Mission Park's off-leash dog area be expanded.

According to Pickert, officials felt the dog area should be removed from the park because, among other reasons, it interferes with the prairie restoration envisioned for the area and the dog feces it generates threatens the water quality in nearby Shawnee Mission Lake.

While dog lovers may not like that development, BMX bicycling and Frisbee golf enthusiasts who spoke at the spring hearings were pleased with other recommendations announced Tuesday.

One recommendation calls for a Frisbee golf course to be developed in a large open area near the main entrance to the park, and another calls for the development of BMX racing and practice sites in the 90-acre former quarry site in the southwest corner of the park.

The master-plan recommendations call for that area to be developed as an extreme-sports complex, where elevated mountain-bike trails would be built and former quarry walls would be used for rock climbing.

Other recommendations for Shawnee Mission Park call for:

* The archery range to be moved from its current location near the southwest corner of the park to a site in the northern portion of the park, where archers would be able to face north, rather than into the sun, and where some Olympic-standard 90-meter target lanes could be included;

* The redevelopment of the multi-use trail area north of the lake with separate hiking and mountain-biking trails that would be less precipitous and, thus, less prone to washing out.

* Development of a mountain-bike trailhead and parking near the Small Lakes area to serve those using the five miles of new mountain-bike trails to be developed north of the lake;

* Rerouting and reconstruction of park roads to provide better connections between various portions of the park and to allow addition of bike lanes.

* Elimination of one of two ball fields in the Walnut Grove area to make room for a wetlands area that would stem the flow of silt running off from nearby residential development into the south end of the lake;

* Improvements to Theatre in the Park, including a new indoor rehearsal and meeting facility, a new pavilion, and expanded restroom and concession areas;

* Extensive prairie restoration; and

* Various other improvements to shelters, picnic areas and the marina area.

For full descriptions of the proposed improvements, visit

©The Johnson County Sun 2003

Tournaments / Re: Club championship question
« on: August 31, 2016, 09:01:47 AM »
::) :o ???

Uh so why Heritage? They don't have an agreement with the club yet.

We do have and have had an agreement in place with JoCo P&R (Heritaage and SMP).  We have worked with JoCo since 2002 to develop a course on SMP and the plan was in place at that time as well for Heritage as it was already on the 2020 Park plan (wanted to have it in before the year 2020).  It took some time to get everything ironed out on the SMP park, and when the timelines opened up for Heritage it was already considered a club course due to the existing contract in place and the partnerships with JoCo P&R.

I am liking the idea of a "pre-registration" but as I indicated having 4 teams of 2 to help at registration day 1 is something that I believe will also help out.

It is a growing event and one that not one person can facilitate, so please let's have the "official TD--Dick Parker" decide the courses, let the CC's of the course set up the layout in a challenging but not incredibly hard set up, and enjoy the weekend of disc golf!

Tournaments / Re: Club championship question
« on: August 30, 2016, 04:52:24 PM »
I tend to agree, I also didn't like to do all the work (or have so many others help me in it) for the Championships I prefer to just play on courses we have.  We have enough, and that is also why the list that Doug made me look at and compile make your stance pretty damn smart to me!

Tournaments / Re: Club championship question
« on: August 30, 2016, 04:21:35 PM »
Almost any combination of courses that doesn't include Swope would get a thumbs up here.

You didn't like the morphed 2 18 hole configuration at Swope?

Tournaments / Re: Club championship question
« on: August 30, 2016, 03:18:02 PM »
I know it's way out south but a Heritage/Birdland day would be fun on the Kansas side. 

I'd love a Waterworks/Cliff day, but that's the mighty mo all over again.

And Old Settlers both of which are a few weeks apart....

Tournaments / Re: Club championship question
« on: August 30, 2016, 01:37:58 PM »
I'm pretty sure LS has an agreement now, but I may be mistaken. 

Incorrect you are.   ;D :D  It doesn't.  But there are branches extended.  The work done has been appreciated by the KCFDC BoD and the club overall.  This is why in the recent BoD meetings when approached we did authorize funds to increase and improve the footprint of the course, but there is no agreement in place at this time.

Tournaments / Re: Club championship question
« on: August 30, 2016, 10:04:06 AM »
its all good.  Really Doug this made me look up this information so we really can say that we have played at X over the last few years, and we should look at different courses.....So I do appreciate the dialogue with it for right now very much so!

Personally I would prefer a WW/Cliff day and a BV/Swope Short day

Tournaments / Re: Club championship question 2016
« on: August 29, 2016, 06:19:42 PM »
2007--Swope--WW-Rosedale--Down Under
2014--Rosedale--Down Under--Blue Valley--WW
2015--Swope Blue--Swope Pink--WyCo--SMP

The KCFDC MUST be played on courses that we have agreements/contracts in place with in order to qualify.

Since I believe in 2013 we have had to "split" the pools on opening rounds because there are more than 108 players (which already makes YUCH 6-somes).

I don't know where Dick will go with the plan this year, though there is something to be said about using courses we haven't to add to the balance of area, but we don't have an agreement with Smithville for example or Lees Summit, or Raymore, to name a few, and I think that many enjoyed using a Hybrid of Swope last year as well.  I could possibly come up with a 36 hole configuration at Blue valley as well (would be needing help with baskets, but it would be very cool....

So let's give the TD time to think about the options he has in front, give you a little history and some options as it requires a lot of work to make this work.  I also know that we need to have a couple of volunteers to help facilitate registration and membership collections.  I am thinking that if we had 4 to 8 people (this would be 2/teams) at check in we could have lines set up for A-E, F-K, L-Q, and R-Z.  That would help, we could register and sign up people in a more orderly fashion to help get the day off to a better start for everyone.

Realizing that if we are at multiple courses we need to move people, carpooling and sharing rides is required, as would be someone to help facilitate the "boards" at each course.  Realistically we are growing to a point on this event that we need to plan well to make it smooth for us all.  These are but a few thoughts that I have.

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