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I know it is open for everyone but at its inception there were slots for women preserved.  The forms of who was included changed-masters and women had to compete with guys.  Masters in this town can compete with young guys but really the change to take away the spots for women takes away the ability for women to qualify as Paige pierce and Val jenkins don't live here.

There were AGE protected spots as well that vanished, so it is OPEN to all, you can't claim "equality" and then say, I want SPECIAL treatment.  You either get it or you don't.  You can't have it both ways.

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Payouts are listed above in thread.  Pros pays Cash.  Ams pays merchandise at Dynamic Discs store in Kansas City.


If this is a "club event" why can't the KCKash be used thus allowing both of the retailers of Kansas City Disc Golf to be used?

Otherwise this is only a DD and Rob event, then it shouldn't be listed on the Sticky section, and as such there should be an agreement to pay the club for the use of the park accordingly as well.

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Cliff Drive / Re: Pin Placements
« on: June 29, 2015, 10:47:19 am »
Thanks Page 1 updated to reflect this. 

League July 6th at Cliff returns for Monday Night

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Tournaments / Re: Wide Open 2016
« on: June 29, 2015, 10:39:47 am »
Anthony, thanks for sharing your thoughts.  Too many people think because they are volunteering, it puts them above reproach.  I read your post as entirely constructive and appreciate the feedback.  I have no doubt that we could have been better prepared for the vast array of disc golf knowledge present in the crowd.  Anyone wishing to critique my efforts that weekend, feel free.  There's nothing thin about me.  :-)

I was thinking the same thing.  And the "spectator" did cost him a stroke at the clubhouse.

Many people just don't get that the disc doesn't go for the pros like a remote control even though they make it look like it does.

FWIW, I started the thread as a conversational piece, good, bad and ugly is what I was looking for the.  The Final 9 rope crew could have done better....but if your "friends" felt as though they were being treated "rudely", there are a couple of things you may do to help.

1) Educate them that the disc needs space, keep at least 25' behind the rope on Swope (not the final 9 crew, but the ACTUAL PLAYING OB ROPE), as the players don't throw between the rope, but rather LAND in BOUNDS is the goal, hitting someone costing them hundreds of dollars was just horrendous, second time I have seen that a large gallery event, ok 3rd, just thought of Timmy at #9 At WW with the fan that kicked it "back in"....  The bottom line, many of the "newbies" may not know the rules.  Realization that we are trying to get in before rain, and get it done, raises that.

2) Work with the team-help say, hey people, c'mon lets give them some space, lets move it back.  Help out by being that protagonist for the rope crew.

3) Bring more people so it is a bigger problem.  Learn to follow the "flow of the 9" so you don't have to move every often.  This isn't Caddyshack, and it is Swope.  The final 9 was designed so you really could stay around the top and see all the action well.  Plan a strategic location and make it work with minimal movement.  Bring more people, and wala we have more control, watch it.

4) Finally on this, be thankful that we got this problem.  We have volunteers mad that people didn't respect them, we have spectators mad that there are volunteers.  The price of admission dictates the volunteerism is needed.  Do you want "pay to view" by a select crowd, we could gate it off in the future, only those sponsors get to walk with the Pros, all others will be subjected to staying in only "assigned" locations.  Is that the answer?

The goal of the post was to get things better.  So it clearly speaks that better tact is needed on rope bearers and spectators.  I think that is something we can work on, and believe me I am fully liking the "assigned viewing" option with a premium for "following the card".....so see this does give good ideas.

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Swope / Re: Closed July 31st 2015 to casual play
« on: June 23, 2015, 05:19:20 pm »
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Tournaments / Re: Wide Open 2016
« on: June 23, 2015, 05:13:50 pm »
Appreciate the insight Dick.  I think you are spot on in many instances.  We can tighten it up in the future (if you are willing to run it again) and many will be happy again to help you get it out there.

It is a monumental feat to say the least of what you have done over the last few years with it.  Love hearing and working with you on your vision and ideas.  Keep it coming!

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Cliff Drive / Re: Pin Placements
« on: June 23, 2015, 02:51:31 pm »
We can move it around a touch. Here is what I was thinking....
1-original
2-Long
3-SHORT
4-Rocks
5-Short
6-Left
7-Middle
8-Trees
9-Long
10-Middle
11-Long
12-Short
13-Long
14-Short
15-Tree
16-Waterfountain
17-Peninsula
18-Tree

That should be a good mix of long/short and still leave some of the long for the daylight we have available for folks, but makes it more human as well. Heard some good things from those that did bother to play it as well as many a compliment from local on the "uber long" layout. Thanks all.

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Tournaments / Re: Wide Open 2016
« on: June 23, 2015, 09:04:29 am »
Scoreboards are awesome.  Even if it is just a Permanent marker written on Jack Lowe's back 8)

Now that would be funny......

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Tournaments / Re: Wide Open 2016
« on: June 22, 2015, 05:01:37 pm »
We can always do better, but this was freaking awesome. A million thanks to all who gave time and energy to this event. It takes a village! I saw our old leader boards today in storage. I think I can use a dry erase to remove the permanent marker and the other one is clean. So remember those for next year.


I was thinking the same thing, and I bet Hal Baby has something to remove it with.  I thought that there had to be a few in storage.

I'd still like to see "green" rope for holding the "galley" back, as it doesn't show up as brightly in photos as well.

I will of course air my grievances with Dick at our annual Festivus! ;D

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Tournaments / Re: Wide Open 2016
« on: June 22, 2015, 01:06:01 pm »
Lots of folks in the gallery wondered about a leaderboard. I asked Dick about this and he said ours is unusable having been marked on with permanent ink. He also stated the PDGA provides on at NT events which I believe we are slated for 2016?
-Agree, and the NT for next year hasn't been decided.  Generally I think at the fall summit meeting they make those decisions.  With Worlds in Emporia, the GBO probably won't be an NT.  I don't think that Des Moines likes the NT, which would leave the Majestic and us realistically, unless someone in St. Louis really drove it.....


would have liked to see a final 9 for all pro divisions

really?  The year I did that no one liked it.....

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Tournaments / Wide Open 2016
« on: June 22, 2015, 12:46:04 pm »
What did you like, what didn't you like about this year's event that you would want to see, not see next year?

Let's get the ideas as they are fresh in our heads.

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I would like to thank all that helped, but the list is too long.  I would love to thank Dick for the work and the effort and dedication he brought to the event.

It is a wonderful tradition and the turns and twists were met with minimal disruption.

Dick you did a fantastic job of the Wide Open, and continue to make Kansas City proud.

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Cliff Drive / Re: Fresh Mow-6/1/15
« on: June 17, 2015, 02:40:28 pm »
I will probably try to get out there next week and move some pins around to "shorter" layout, but something still fun for league in a couple of weeks out there.

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Leagues / Re: 2015 Meandering Monday PDGA League - First Session
« on: June 17, 2015, 09:18:08 am »
missed the KS part, loved designing that little course, sorry about that!

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Cool. Thanks for the responses. I'll have to play it sometime this week.

tonight, tomorrow, or Thursday, from Friday on it is pretty well booked.....You may be able to get on after the 2:00 round on Friday, should be done like 6ish.

But yeah we have to pull it off quick.

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