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General Banter / Re: PDGA Ratings Update
« on: March 25, 2015, 01:37:47 pm »
Stats are for Losers... ;D

Hold on I am trying to enter that.  Can you give me the parameters you used to identify this statement?

Where is Brinkmeyer when we need him? :'(

General Banter / Re: PDGA Ratings Update
« on: March 25, 2015, 11:12:54 am »
The alternative - to create a course rating for each tee pad and each pin placement, while more accurate, would be nearly infinitely harder.

It makes it harder in KC, but where I think we need to look at is in regards to each pin placement and layout on the course.  We are soooooo spoiled in the area as most of our courses locally have 3 pins per hole.

I attempt to track hole by hole scoring for almost every event at Cliff to give a good assessment of the actual stats per location.  It isn't easy, and it takes time.

I have tried to do it at Wide Open's in the past as well as World's.  The biggest issue is that soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many people start on hole #1 on the scorecards that accuracy is thrown out the window....

Blue Valley / Re: Be a part of history-Saturday come help!
« on: March 25, 2015, 11:09:51 am »

Rob, you have to head back to the Nature Center for the Lunch, it isn't provided at the location. 

Blue Valley / Re: Be a part of history-Saturday come help!
« on: March 25, 2015, 10:26:51 am »
There are plenty of areas to work.  Signing up doesn't hurt at all, there will be probably at least 100-150 people out there working in different high pollution spots to help.  If you can sign up, always looks good to have the numbers, if you show up, it is truly better to have hands on deck!

General Banter / Re: PDGA Ratings Update
« on: March 25, 2015, 10:25:28 am »
^^^^^^^what this guy said to me in like 2005 and saying again 10 years later still holds true!

they run SMALLL, I couldn't fit into a 12, I get 13 in Keens.  I was supposed to get a pair to give away I don't remember if it happens.

The truth though is that they were NOT meant to be used as disc golf shoes.  They were to be the shoes you wore after the round.....or in Steeler's case a way to prevent broken glass and rocks from ripping up your feet.....

Blue Valley / Re: Be a part of history-Saturday come help!
« on: March 24, 2015, 11:56:24 am »
Yep you can do it that way Rob for certain.  You pick which one on the past anyway.

Blue Valley / Re: Be a part of history-Saturday come help!
« on: March 24, 2015, 09:05:26 am »
Doug are we to meet again down at the Lakeside nature Center for starters and to sign in?

I know that there is a big push at Cliff this weekend as well with Brett, but I can come help out as well out here for the few hours it appears to be earmarked.

I know in some instances it is just as good to meet at Blue Valley, so it may save a trip of driving for a few, especially Rob, as it just adds distance that he may not need to do unless of course he wants some of those free donuts they give to juice us up!

Project Blue River Rescue
Clean up the River!
You can sign up for 2015 after 1/1/15
Saturday, March 28, 2015
8am to noon at Lakeside Nature Center
Be part of Missouri's biggest one-day clean-up and help us clean the Blue.  Stop by the water testing stations and see concrete results.
Call (816) 513-8960 for more information. Feel free to e-mail us at to register..

I don't want to send anything off if you already know.

It is a great day to give back to the community and the environment for certain folks!  Help out, though not all focused on the disc golf course, it is in fact a true benefit to the park.

Thanks again Doug for reminding us all of this great work to improve one of the best pieces of land in the city!

General Banter / Re: Apologies to Rob and a few others.
« on: March 24, 2015, 08:48:21 am »
You're welcome, keep on keeping on!

Swope / Re: Swope League 2015
« on: March 23, 2015, 10:35:33 am »
Awesome Van, thanks for your time buddy!

General Banter / Apologies to Rob and a few others.
« on: March 23, 2015, 10:07:57 am »
I would like to publicly go on the record with an apology to Rob and a few others that I may have offended.

In the case specifically of Rob, my biggest problem with is a perception problem of my own.  I may post a little more passionately about how I view things, and how they should be done in my eyes.  I at times fail to have the realization that it is sole focus burning and not to the betterment of Disc Golf.  Not my intent, but clearly it can come across that way.

So I wanted to let the record show that although I am very passionate about my own beliefs, desires, and expectations, many others may not share that vision or passion.  As such my comments made at times may not be the best alignment to point out how great our community is.

I tend to view the forum as an open chance for dialogue to start conversations that at times may get heated.  I don't back down, but I will change my own opinion as time and conversations make me see that I may need to be more altruistic.  This is the case here. 

I do think that Rob is getting some great traction in the less than normally played locations.  I may not agree with the mannerism that he goes about, but that is just simply because he is doing it his way and I shouldn't chastise him for that as I have been.

There are other conversations that come up that I clearly do get heated on, and it is the basis for my apologies to others as well.  It appears in my typing at the computer that I am guilty of what I despise the most.....typing at the machine, not talking and communicating and I hated realizing that is what I have been doing as well.  Not my intent (ok some times it is....  ;D ) to alienate individuals, but in most instances it is the belief that we all have a passion to take the sport forward.

My devotion may be greater than some, weaker than others, and honestly more tied to the notion of the work that I personally give and see others give.  I know the requirements in many cases, and I expect and at times demand people be held to the standard I have of myself.  I don't even make that standard often, so as such I shouldn't be throwing rocks in the glass house that I am looking through.

For that I do apologize to Rob specifically as my intent wasn't to belittle, but rather shine a light that I felt needed, which probably isn't my place to do so publicly.  Others I may have offended, realize that this is only due to my own desire to have Kansas City as the greatest town in the world to play our sport.  Even though on the Chatter Room here I may come across as all knowing and wonderful, I am but a man behind the green curtain, and as such it isn't just I that can complete anything in town, it takes all of us.  We may offer disagreeing terms, and some times may get heated, my intent isn't to alienate, but to engage, discuss and find a solution to help us all.

Many of you over the years know my bark is far worst than my bite.  I very rarely bite, in fact generally will give off my plate instead.  I don't want our community to be viewed as hostile, and my recent conversations may have indicated that it is.  It isn't, and for that I feel shame, and it took the conversations recently to show me that I may be over stepping what I view as helping, because it hasn't, and for that I do apologize to all of you as well.



Tournaments / Re: Maverick Disc Golf Schedule 2015
« on: March 20, 2015, 10:26:22 am »
First I had heard of this Rob.

Since I have been sending all the information to the Parks Dept about events, when and how was this Blue Valley thing approved and by who?

Also since there isn't ample parking available I will be interested in seeing your design plans on how to accommodate the parking since there isn't enough space there..... ??? ??? ???

Most courses have limited parking that cannot accomodate a full tourney..... Blue Valley KCMO for example......


Yeah I guess when we had close to 3000 people out there we didn't have parking? 

You make little sense at times...come play the course and see that there are roads all around with ample parking. before you start to comment on items that make no sense.

Tournaments / Re: Matchbox 64 MODIFIED Match Play Comment Thread
« on: March 18, 2015, 12:57:32 pm »
Pretty cool idea to bring this to KC.  Thanks fellas.

Tournaments / Re: 33rd Annual Kansas City Wide Open - June 19-21, 2015
« on: March 18, 2015, 11:34:40 am »
As a famous Kansas City disc golfer recently said "I'm lazy and didn't want to read a essay", so can you just sum it up for us. What's in the player pack.  ;D ;D
Good stuff-in the players pack that is......disc golf stuff on top of that.... ;D

Sum it up... have you read my posts? ???

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