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5041
WYCO / WyCo Projects
« on: January 17, 2006, 02:47:04 PM »
The PDGA fees that are involved with sanctioning is why I am choosing not to run any PDGA events this year for the events that I am running.  Tom if you can convince me that it is worth the money that the PDGA gets to garner at least 15-20 people per event I would listen, but overall I feel that turnout last year at events was less because of the associated costs with PDGA, either paying the additional fee if you are not a member, or the fees that we send to the PDGA for the event charge, and then the additional fee that we must charge players for the PDGA on each player.  It costs $2/person that we must send, and then an additional $5 for non-members.

So in essence, when I try to have an event where the entry is $20 for am's, it then becomes $27 for the $20 entry.  It just doesn't make sense, when we want to drive competitive play into the area, and we are pricing ourselves out of the market.  The same can be said for the Open side, where the fees are also attached, so that an Open player paying $47 only sees $40 in the payout, still a loss on each entrant by ~20%.

I so far have been thinking that all events this year will not be PDGA with the exception of the Wide Open.  This would allow us to make things easier for the casual player, and the TD running the event to not have to look up all the information on each person.

May need to move this to Tournaments forum, but wanted to chime in.  Kevin feel free to move this post.

Thanks,

Jack

5042
WYCO / WyCo Projects
« on: January 17, 2006, 02:46:07 PM »
The PDGA fees that are involved with sanctioning is why I am choosing not to run any PDGA events this year for the events that I am running.  Tom if you can convince me that it is worth the money that the PDGA gets to garner at least 15-20 people per event I would listen, but overall I feel that turnout last year at events was less because of the associated costs with PDGA, either paying the additional fee if you are not a member, or the fees that we send to the PDGA for the event charge, and then the additional fee that we must charge players for the PDGA on each player.  It costs $2/person that we must send, and then an additional $5 for non-members.

So in essence, when I try to have an event where the entry is $20 for am's, it then becomes $27 for the $20 entry.  It just doesn't make sense, when we want to drive competitive play into the area, and we are pricing ourselves out of the market.  The same can be said for the Open side, where the fees are also attached, so that an Open player paying $47 only sees $40 in the payout, still a loss on each entrant by ~20%.

I so far have been thinking that all events this year will not be PDGA with the exception of the Wide Open.  This would allow us to make things easier for the casual player, and the TD running the event to not have to look up all the information on each person.

May need to move this to Tournaments forum, but wanted to chime in.  Kevin feel free to move this post.

Thanks,

Jack

5043
General Banter / Kansas Disc Golf Association
« on: January 17, 2006, 02:27:17 PM »
May want to check at Teds, rumor mill is it will be pulled very soon if it already is not.

5044
Water Works / Who is in charge of Water Works???
« on: January 12, 2006, 10:43:28 PM »
I don't think that they are there any longer.  I beleive that we moved those out with the Parks and Rec, they were not tee pads, but old table tops.  If they are still there we had asked the parks about transporting them, to one of the other parks.

Thanks,

Jack

5045
General Banter / 1/3/06 EC Meeting
« on: January 11, 2006, 09:24:35 PM »
The link is Broke, if someone could find these, we probably could use the guy that carved the first run of Bag Tags, something like this would be an extra fee instead of the mini, but if you wanted to purchase it, it sounds great.  I believe that Ted Keith and Jamie Danger are working on a bag tag idea, this would be a good one.

5046
General Banter / ACE LIST
« on: January 11, 2006, 09:17:33 PM »
OUCH!  Nice shot E. :P

This thread means that I think that I got an Ace this year with Beckett during the Solctice Round, Beckett hit Down Under on #14, and I hit #8 up top during the same round.  SWEET!

5047
Beginners / Weight does it matter?
« on: January 10, 2006, 09:15:21 PM »
Great post date Mike, love 8-22.

In the winter time your plastic is also more predictable as it is in the prefered conditions with regards to the weather keeping the plastic cold, warm plastic will have less stable characteristics.

Why not try this theory at the Ice Bowl on the 29th?
:P

5048
Found and Lost / Lost and Found at Rosedale Who get them?
« on: January 10, 2006, 09:11:36 PM »
Dick is 913.208.2607 I am not sure that he is doing that, it may be Pete.

5049
General Banter / CE found.
« on: January 10, 2006, 09:06:46 PM »
I bet it is a purplish mauvish CE Valk that I threw actually on #13, but went over the hill, and I lost it after finding it earlier in the day on a Fly-18 course in Chicago, My name should have been on Top of it, but may have worn off as it was in Red Sharpie

5050
Prairie Center / Course Condition and Projects
« on: January 10, 2006, 09:00:00 PM »
Actually the covers out there were a Cashen Design for the rocks that you speak of ($25/each for the cover years back).  If you get to Rosedale, look at what Gavin made using PVC where I think he did most of the pin covers.  I think that anyone that has had to move teh Cashen lock with rocks, twigs knows how hard it is.  I hate moving baskets at Rosedale in the winter with Frozen ROCKS in the pin that you are getting ready to move, nothing WORST.

Thanks Bob!

5051
Tournaments / 4th Glass Blown Open, Emporia KS "A" Tier
« on: January 10, 2006, 08:18:36 PM »
Yep, pretty much what I was saying, I hate how things in chat rooms look different than what you meant, or be taken slightly out of context.  Guess that is what I get for typong what I was thinking when I was reading the post.

Thanks Sean! :D

5052
Prairie Center / Course Condition and Projects
« on: January 10, 2006, 08:16:22 PM »
Locks are going to be  ~$200 (~$6/each), the Bent Pins themselves are $25/each.  We can talk about the lock purchase but I think that it makes sense it has been a proble for awhile, maybe we can sell the existing locks for those that may want them to defray part of the cost.

5053
Tournaments / 4th Glass Blown Open, Emporia KS "A" Tier
« on: January 10, 2006, 08:06:56 PM »
Sorry, cant change my Birthday and Dick's and the other Leo's (8-22).  Not trying to be mean, just saying I'll miss it.  The Lion's Den is not a PDGA event, it is a Birthday Party Event at Cliff Drive, we will miss many people at the bash this year because of the Glass Blown I am sure, but that is fine in my book, more power to the PDGA event is that is what you want to do.  I personally think that it is great that it has reached the "A" Tier status, I think that it is AWESOME, but I am not going to give up my Birthday party for it.

5054
Prairie Center / Course Condition and Projects
« on: January 10, 2006, 04:15:57 PM »
We have spent more $$$$ on the locks at Olathe and the basket covers and the tee signs than we have at any course.  We bought the Tee signs with a promise by the then CC to get sponsors to pay for them, never happened, the former CC wanted to have the $25 pin covers on all placements, that was done, the locks were also chosen I believe by the same CC.

As it stands right now, we can replace the locks with Bent pins for $25/each, and then buy locks, with longer than what we bought last year for BV and Cliff, (my mistake was not aware of how the shorter locks would be such a PITA, and I consulted a "pro" :) ) who doesn't read this thread.......  We can do so, but at a cost of close to $600.  Gavin did a bang up job of plastic covers that should work well at Rosedale for a cheaper version of the pin protector that should be more cost effective, though not as solid a product.

Jack

5055
Tournaments / Ice Bowl
« on: January 10, 2006, 12:49:57 AM »
We need many donations for the CTP prizes, please ask all your favorite places to help spolnsor in the form of gift certifcates to help us raise over $3000 this year for Harvester's largest food pantry.  For Tax deductible checks that will go directly towards the fund amount, make towards the Bishop Sullivan Center, this DOES NOT count towards the entry of the event, but will still be greatly appreciated!  Start your businesses to work towards their tax deductions for 2006 by getting a check to the BSC today!  And help us have a blast by getting your local businesses involved with the biggest most fun tourney of the year.  

Also I would like to see at least 50 people new to a "tournament" at this year's Ice Bowl, after all who shouldn't play their first tournament without the opportunity to buy Milligan's?

:)  

Call Dick Parker to organize your sponsorship at 913.208.2607 or call me 913.485.5123

Thanks,

Jack

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