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Cliff Drive / Re: Cliff Drive League 2009
« on: March 16, 2009, 03:42:08 PM »
I shuold be there by 5:15

General Banter / Non-Disc Golf-BB Brackets
« on: March 16, 2009, 01:52:52 PM »
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Cliff Drive / Re: Cliff drive hole one
« on: March 16, 2009, 10:09:36 AM »

The problem really is the placement of 10's basket, if we go much further back you risk getting hit from errant shots.

On 13, I plan on placing a bunch of other trees (ok maybe 10...) to define the fairway.  I am also still trying to work with the groups at getting the area where 13's basket is to become a playground and basketball courts, then move 14 & 15 across the street, and have 13 go to 14's basket.....that part of the course is going to be ready this year for the worlds, but may change soon thereafter.

I am hoping that with all the meetings that I am having to do because of the tee pads that I will be able to drive more designs to help the area and associations get what they want (basketball court removed-I want it moved, not removed) and in turn allow us to have a better course.

The tree by 12's pad is a NASTY mullberry tree, Kevin Corbett can only eat so many of I was staying clear of that tree intentionally.



Water Works / Re: 03/12/09 Water Works League
« on: March 13, 2009, 03:42:16 PM »
then buy star plastic....computr more plastic always have enough in car to play and share

Shawnee Mission / Re: SMP League Night
« on: March 12, 2009, 11:20:56 AM »
JoCo will not allow the exchange of $$ within the park.

Cliff Drive / Re: work weekend 2/21-2/22
« on: March 12, 2009, 10:08:30 AM »
I have talked with a few people and I should receive the invitation today to speak at the Kessler Society's next meeting.  I am confident that these issues will be put into a position that we can move forward, but it may be slower than I had hoped.  They meet in April, either the first or second week....the leader was unaware of when the next meeting was, and I caught him by surprise, as he has asked for the date.

Tournaments / Re: Mighty MO-May 10th
« on: March 12, 2009, 09:47:28 AM »
I typically always have included this fee in all the events that I run.  I pay the club for the players that are not club members for the work that the club does to make the course ready.

Cliff Drive / Re: work weekend 2/21-2/22
« on: March 11, 2009, 10:00:24 AM »
That is slightly correct, but there are other issues.  Here is the letter that I sent.

Hello there,


My name is Jack Lowe.  I have been working on a project to secure a disc golf course within Kessler Park of the Northeast part of Kansas City over the last 9 years.  We have been working with many neighborhood associations, park boards, and several other community driven organizations over the time span to help preserve, and reclaim areas of the park that had been neglected.


We are close to completing a major step in the park with the addition of our concrete tee-pads, and then last week I was notified by the Parks department that there were some concerns, and that I should ensure that all organizations are up to speed on where this is heading.  I have scheduled meetings with the Pendleton Heights, Cliff Drive Corridor Committee, Scarrit Neighborhood, and the Parks department to ensure that we are all agreeing on helping to give back to the community a great piece of land.  My major concern is that the last few weeks of work will fall subject to vandals if not acted upon swiftly.


In talking with Gary Marsh last night, I was informed that he as a member of the Kessler Society had concerns in regards to the tee areas and indicated to me that the Kessler Society had no idea about this project.  I do apologize, and I am ashamed that I have not had an opportunity to meet with and discuss the project that I am so passionate about.  I would like to have this letter serve as an introduction to me, and more importantly would want to speak with your organization in regards to this project, the scope that we have, and the ability to alter the course should additional amenities, or designs come into play with the land area that we are currently in use of through our contract with the Kansas City Parks and Recreation Department.


We have done many great things to help to clean up this area, and increase the foot traffic through out the park, and I would also like to think that our addition has helped to spur items such as the Car Free Weekends, and more visible activities within the green space to encourage our community to get outside.  Outside of the over 10,000 man hours donated to this cleanup of this park, that we have helped to foster some positive change, I also live in the area, and the park was one of the single biggest reasons I moved into the area.  This energy and enthusiasm has also brought more activity that helps us keep moving forward to make this a great place to visit, play and live!


Please let me know when your next meeting is scheduled, or if there is a time that we can meet to discuss the proposed plan.  I have spent countless hours designing, and implementing a course that I feel goes with the thought process that Kessler had wanted.  I have done some history work on Kessler, and at all of my tournaments, have tried to share that knowledge with the other patrons of the park.  I would be more than happy to share those ideas, and would hope that they align with your organization towards sharing the great visions that Kessler brought to Kansas City.


I look forward to hearing from your organization soon, and welcome the chance to share my enthusiasm with you, and hope you find it as contagious as I do!!





===o {>[]----

Jack Lowe
Vice President-KCFDC
Tournament Director 2009 Pro Worlds
"Disc Golf-
Like ball golf, only faster,
cheaper, and healthier!"

What we do for ourselves dies with us.
What we do for others and the world
remains and is immortal.-Albert Pine

I will keep everyone posted, I have already talked with the local newspaper, and there will be a write up, because this is news, all the work that we have done and the knowledge that the plan was in place and then to get hit with a stop sign is unsettling to me.

I'll keep you all posted as I work on ironing out all the details.  I am meeting with 2 other neighborhood associations to secure all the groups are in agreement.  Right now just the Kessler Society seems to have some issues, and I am hopeful that we can make this work with all of us!!!!

THanks for your patience, in the mean time if you want to play with pads, and a new course, head to Legacy........damnit.......

Tournaments / Re: Doubles Disc Golf Tournament - May 9th
« on: March 10, 2009, 03:33:47 PM »
Nope, its a private course, available only for fund raising events.

Shawnee Mission / Re: SMP League Night
« on: March 10, 2009, 12:03:16 PM »
Leave it to someone from Swope to try and change things.....You would need to talk with everyone about a change like that Timko....this makes sense in JoCo b/c of the rules.  MO lets us do as we want, which is better.....

Legacy Park - Lee's Summit / Re: legacy league?
« on: March 09, 2009, 10:28:16 PM »
Looks like an answer....good we have too many leagues, now MOndays have 4.....let them do what they like, they move good.

Shawnee Mission / Re: SMP League Night
« on: March 09, 2009, 10:26:45 PM »
More details to follow.  Right now we need to have someone "run" league, Dirk is responsible for finding that person.  The other thing is that this would have to depart from the standard league format that many are accustomed to in KC, and be more of an actual "league" rather than "mini" night.  You would have to pony up for a league season, my suggestion was $50=12weeks of league, gives you 2 nights for free, or to miss and then you have payouts at the end of the 12 weeks, this would allow for 2 league seasons.  You could also very easily make this a doubles league, $100/team, you have to play with your partner in 7 weeks, and you get the best 10 scores (bring your own partner) for the team.  So if something came up you could have "subs" and not get punished, but the majority of the scoring would be you and your partner....

My suggestion was given a long time ago, but I really could care less what is decided.  It is the closest to work for me, and I may play in a doubles deal, I doubt I would hold myself accountable in a singles league there....

Cliff Drive / Re: Cliff Drive League 2009
« on: March 09, 2009, 08:32:03 PM »
No league cause of rain.....good....I am at work, and will not be at work next Monday night.  Tee off will be 5:30, I can make it by then, but not before, so can someone step up and take people's $$$$ for me.

Cliff Drive / Re: work weekend 2/21-2/22
« on: March 07, 2009, 08:22:59 AM »
buckle online....the world is unsafe.....

I am planning on meeting with the neighborhood groups to get seal of approval, as I think there are concerns mainly about the new #11.  Hopefully this wil be understood, of not, we may have to move it slightly downhill....slightly, just off the flat path, but I am hopeful that no modifications will be needed.

Heading out there today around 11, hope to play around 1:30

come oon out and enjoy the "new" course, though everryday is new

Cliff Drive / Re: pin movement 3-6-09
« on: March 06, 2009, 02:44:29 PM »
I'll GPS it just for ya Timko......its hard to get a 3.....I gave up, Aaron took a 6 I think, and Terry took a 4 last night..... ;D

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