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Cliff Drive / Doubles 9/15/14 @ Cliff
« on: September 09, 2014, 03:39:33 PM »
Lets get started no later than 5:35, registration by 5:30.  Random doubles, based on Bag Tags probably, but random this week, and then next week I would like to see us do an alternate shot doubles to finish the year.

Tournaments / Re: Tree Love Classic-PDGA C-Tier-Cliff Drive Sat Sept 13
« on: September 09, 2014, 03:35:44 PM »
Playing devil's advocate here, but it looks like we lost a bunch of trees at Cliff recently and a lot of trees were also cut down recently.  Could any of those that were cut down have been transplanted?  Just a thought and don't intend to thread drift. 

Can't wait for the event, weather looks great so far!

When we "cut down" trees at cliff it is because they are dead/dying/diseased.  We have lost quite a few trees, and we will be losing more.  Look at the "first" tree on #18 when you play it.  You can already see that the entire top east end of it isn't with leaves.  It has already started to die.  The "front" tree on #8 in between is seriously....amazed it hasn't gone down.  Look down #4 there are many trees there going to be gone soon as well.

With the revamp or redesign on the course we want to populate trees that will enable us to mold a course better in the future, and also add to the aesthetic value of the area.  We have lost many trees over the past decade, (in the current configuration) #11 big tree middle of fairway....#13, SO MANY TREES IT ISNT FUNNY, but seriously probably about 10 on the area along the road, and out in the middle....#14, a bunch, like 6.....and of course the big bruiser on #17 that hole will not be the same ever again without it, it just simply isn't.

Suffice it to say this is a GREAT cause, and the players pack I believe if you signed up was a disc and a shirt.  The fee is nominal and the event is great.  Please do remember that NO DAY OF REGISTRATION IS ACCEPTED-this means many of our "local pros" that have a tendency to show up Saturday morning.  You want in, register in advance, or call Scott and let him know you will be there, or Drew.  If you don't plan on being there in advance, your money will still be accepted as a donation to the course and you can help by spotting or volunteering to help and that is encouraged even more.

All proceeds will continue to go towards the TLC fund, I believe it is now over $1500, and we will probably be planting the trees next year.

This is also quite possibly the last chance to play many of the placements on the course as we head into the winter months the goal of the redesign will start to move even more!  Get out and be a part of history.

Cliff Drive / Final PDGA League NE Monday night results
« on: September 09, 2014, 02:59:14 PM »

Results are in and sent off.  These are the final results for the league.  In order to qualify you must have competed in at least 5 rounds (1/2 the season) and then in stead of basing it off Par, or total strokes, it was based on the finish you had for each night you played.  I averaged the finishing spot and that was the determining factor for the results.  Based on this even though Jose played 1 more week Beckett Averaged a higher finish average, and coincidentally had a lower average.  Which was the case, with the exception of Dick Parker, who averaged higher than Peter Bures on score but finished higher on the average place.

I basically balanced it all out on on the final spreadsheet for Am/Pro, but put myself in Am Master since I typically played in Masters as did a few others, I didn't want to detract from the battle in the field, as Bill Shinoski won the tight battle for the lead on the NE League Night.  Bill played solidly and typically above his rating every week.  He also averaged a stroke better than Ryan and they didn't miss a league this season at all.  So it is a true apples to apples comparison for them.  Bill shot better head to head on only 4 of the nights, but the season was done for Ryan on a couple of nights where the LDO Preview was U-G-L-Y for Ryan as he shot a 70 to Bill's 59.  That clearly was the biggest factor there.

I may do something special for the winners, and I may not.  I don't know.  Really unsure at this point what to do, and playing with the stats was fun for certain, but this is where we ended up.  We also raised a little over $50 for the trees and this weekend the TLC will get that additional money deposited.  You DON'T want to miss the course, it is in FANTASTIC shape right now, and Drew will work hard so that the second round will be very different from the first one.  Come on and sign up, and get out to one of the best courses in the area, and see some great shots, either by yourself, or watch others as you stand in awe!

In order   to qualify   you must   have   played in    5 weeks   
Division   Name                Average Place      Average   Rounds Played
PRO   Beckett   Carduff           1.83                  54.67       6
PRO   Jose   Ossa                   2.43                  55.14       7
PRO   Dick    Parker                   3.00                  57.00       6
PRO   Peter   Bures           3.43                  56.29       7
PRO   Derek   Holt                   3.80                  58.60       5
PRO   Zeke   Henry                   4.60                  61.40       5
   Less than    5 Weeks            
PRO   Steve   Thimmesch        1.00                  51.00       1
PRO   Scott    Herring           1.00                  53.00       1
PRO   Joe   Hesting                   1.00                  54.00       1
PRO   Chris    Cossette           2.00                  54.00       1
PRO   Ryan   Keck                           4.00                  54.00       1
PRO   Duane CD   Steiner           3.33                  54.33       3
PRO   Daniel Das   Loomis        2.00                  56.00       1
PRO   Ted    Keith                   7.00                  58.00       1
PRO   Jordan   Hinck           4.00                  60.00       1
PRO   Mike    Murphy           5.00                  64.00       1
In order   to qualify   you must   have   played in    5 weeks   
Division   Name   Average Place                Average   Rounds Played                  
AM     Bill   Shinoski               2.89                  60.78       9
AM   Ryan   Westa               3.00                  61.89       9
AM   Jason   Allen               5.00                  67.29       7
Am Master   Jack   Lowe    2.57                  59.86       7

   Less than    5 Weeks            
AM   James   Loveall      1.00                          58.00       1
AM   Matt   Crow              1.00                          59.00       1
AM   Joshua   Wiedenfeld   2.50                          60.50       2
AM   Matt   Dixon              3.00                          61.00       1
AM   Graham   Long              4.50                          61.50       2
AM   Duane   Waldman      6.00                          68.00       1
AM   Mike    Krueger      6.00                          68.00       1
AM   Travis   Corporon      5.00                          71.00       1
AM   Josh   Agee              6.00                          78.00       1
AM   Nate   Zier                      8.00                          83.00       1
Am Master   Kelly   Babbitt      1.00                  57.50       2
Am Master   Sneaky   Snake   3.00                  58.00       1
Am Master   Demian   Vela      4.00                  59.00       1
Am Master   Danny   Rodriguez   4.00                  61.00       1
Am Master   Tony   Burnett      5.00                  65.50       2
Am Master   TJ   Barnes      5.00                  68.00       1
Am Master   Rob    Martin      7.00                  70.50       2
Am Master   Doug   Keehler   9.00                  76.00       1

« on: September 08, 2014, 01:29:11 PM »
I am going to try to be there by 5:30, like to be out by 545 no later than that.  We will decide about layout, 3-somes probably most everyone.

« on: September 04, 2014, 11:27:42 AM »
Canceling the last week of the PDGA league at Cliff to ensure ratings are updated appropriately for the next one before the USDGC.

Cliff Drive / LAST WEEK OF PDGA LEAGUE-NE on MONDAY Sept 8th, 2014 @ Cliff
« on: September 04, 2014, 11:07:36 AM »
In preparation of the Tree Love Classic ( ) we will be hosting the LAST PDGA league of the season on the Cliff Drive course.

The reason we are doing this is to ensure that the ratings are calculated in time for the USDGC format.  The last date for submission is 9/9/14, so I am catering to the will of the few in respect to this (you are welcome TD Dick Parker of the Wide Open) as it is important that the players have the correct and most recent rating.  Unfortunately due to the accident, and the time donated to run the Wide Open Dick has been scrambling to make the rounds needed to ensure a recent rating is provided for him.

So after this upcoming week we will go with the following format to finish off the year:
9/15-Random Doubles Best SHOT
9/22-Bag Tag round-players will be grouped by BAG TAGS (Lowest # paired with Highest # on the card, play it through) and then evenly distributed after the round.  If you don't have a KCFDC Bag Tag, will look at what other tag you may have to place you in a card.
9/29-BYOP-Bring Your Own Partner (preferred) or Random Doubles Alternate shot-we will alternate drives on the partners.  Still division based.

All of these formats will be utilizing the "new holes" and will be playing to the Hanger on #8.  We will also be skipping holes #7, and playing from #17 to practice #18 basket.

This should cut down on daylight concerns as well on the Alternate shot should be FASTER PLAYED.

Tournaments / Re: Tree Love Classic-PDGA C-Tier-Cliff Drive Sat Sept 13
« on: September 04, 2014, 10:51:37 AM »
I imagine that it will be mowed on Monday, that is typically the mowing date.  The rain this past month isn't customary, so the schedule probably was slated to be every third week this time of year, then bumping back onto the 14 day cycle.

It will be mowed prior to the event though rest assured.  P&R is aware of the event, and may have moved the mowing back a week to ensure that the grass was better for the event than it was for the casual rounds.

Tournaments / Re: 2015 PDGA Pro and Am/Jr. Invitation Criteria
« on: September 02, 2014, 11:12:01 AM »
but ratings are dropping fast this year as well, so how to balance that with the abnormal drop in ratings?

I see what you are trying to do, but it ultimately (especially in the Am side) isn't always about competition, Worlds is an endurance test.  The Am Worlds is more of a place to engage at the MA1 to determine if you want to go pro, and at the MM! and MG1, most cases (MOST I SAID MOST) cases the individual has determined that they either want to play as am for personal reasons, or want to remain Am to win the worlds....I personally continue to play Am because I suck from time to time, and don't have the time to give to call myself a pro.

So I understand the notion of your comment, but ratings based is still very subjective in my mind, depending on where you get your ratings from.  In my opinion it should be based more solely on finishing at A-Tier, Majors, etc.....We give more points at those events, so weight them more heavily in placement of where you finished, if you finished in top half of your field in that you qualified for (like my Japan Open would be thrown out, because I played Pro) you get "worlds" points, then combine those with players points to make a better plan.

Yeah I wanna throw more convoluted math equations that we don't know the secrets to for the sport! 8) ;D

Tournaments / Re: Old Settlers Open - August 30th, PDGA B Tier
« on: September 02, 2014, 11:02:28 AM »

No they were screaming Al-Co-Hol, c'mon man....

Cliff Drive / Re: 8-25-14 NE League-How will the course be set up?
« on: August 27, 2014, 03:03:43 PM »
slammed at work, results are in on the PDGA site.

No league next week on the 1st of September, we will be playing TLC layout on the 8th. 

Ace fund $542

Found and Lost / Re: *HELP* Lost CE leopard!!!!!!
« on: August 26, 2014, 04:24:45 PM »

Didn't realize that, I was going to say wanna see me pull out a CE Leopard.....

Barter Town / Re: Looking for Ching JUJUs
« on: August 26, 2014, 04:22:38 PM »
didn't the JuJu's have the thumb plates in them?  I have a couple I believe driver?

Cliff Drive / Re: 8-25-14 NE League-How will the course be set up?
« on: August 26, 2014, 10:56:14 AM »
Doh.  I didn't get home until about 10, and went straight to bed.  I will update tomorrow then.  So you played skipping #7, did you play from the road after 10 then, and skip #14 and combine #17 & #18 as well then, to the hangar as well?

Just trying to figure out par, in that case, long #13 would be the only 4, and par would be 55.

Cliff Drive / Re: 8-25-14 NE League-How will the course be set up?
« on: August 26, 2014, 08:51:45 AM »
I need to get scores and the "layout" you played so I can upload the information when you get a chance Ryan.



Cliff Drive / Re: 8-25-14 NE League-How will the course be set up?
« on: August 25, 2014, 02:38:42 PM »

Thanks!  Ryan already grabbed the attention, and he knows how to get my box of stuff from my house, so I allowed him to do so.  I do appreciate it for certain though!

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