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Tournaments / Re: 3nd Annual Freedom Superclass Showdown - July 4th

« on: June 29, 2016, 08:08:17 AM »

I'm outta the state this weekend, so I regret I will not be able to run the 4th annual 4th of July Superclass Showdown.  But somebody should definitely jump in and take over.

If you build it, they will come....

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Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2016--June 18th and 19th Location TBD

« on: June 21, 2016, 10:48:09 AM »

East Captains
2012 - Bowen, W
2013 - Keck, L
2014 - Ossa, L
2015 - Dresser, L
2016 - Henry, L

Who's next? 

Who wants a piece of Joe Belichick/Wooden?

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Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2016--June 18th and 19th Location TBD

« on: June 21, 2016, 10:04:36 AM »

Also, Joe has been captain for 2 years now. That's it. Tracy was the captain before that.

West Side Captains:
2012 - Cooper
2013 - Tracy
2014 - Initially Dick. Joe took over the last few weeks because Dick was overwhelmed with KCWO. But the three of us worked together formulating a plan leading up to the match-up process. However, Joe is listed as (C) on the trophy
2015 - Joe
2016 - Joe

Good clarification.  Forgot about that in 2014.

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Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2016--June 18th and 19th Location TBD

« on: June 21, 2016, 09:58:04 AM »

Here's the data.  West should win based on ratings.  But those aren't everything and east-side needed only 3.5 matches out of a total of 32 competed.
West Side                                          East Side                 
Clemons         1008                            Mike Murphy   985
Arturo             994                             Eastwood        976
Justin 2names 983                             Matt Perry       973* 
Isaac H.          983                             Shanan C.       973*
Cory Sharp      983                            CD Steiner       972
Cooper A.        977                            Jose O.            967
Jake Lazzo       976                            Tyler Mattoon  966
Joe Hesting      971                            Jordan H.        959
Bobby V          969                             Fred Smith      959
Kevin Zane      967                             Mike T.           959
Peter B            965                             Jake B.           952                     
Mark Wisbey    957                             Dresser          950*         
Kelly Babbit     957                             Jamie L.         949
Dick P.            953                             GI Dave         938* 
Kitz                 950                            CJ Hucke        932
Lee K.             946                             Kevin M.        931
Kaleb Martin    946                             Zeke H.         927
Matt Jenkins    932                             Ryan K.         923*
Stracke           927                             Travis T.        909
Liz                  788                             Tavish           851 
Average          956                                                 947                   

Here is my explanation of the last 4 years and it's not about ratings, but it may be indirectly resulted from that data.   West side has more players that play in PDGA tournaments.  East side has 5 players that are not current in the PDGA and don't play in tournaments (marked as *).  Also, I know myself and Mike Murphy have played in only 1 tournament (each) this year.  East side that's not enough.  We need to play more tournaments.

The other reason that I think the west side has won the last 4 is that Joe H. has had 4 years of setting up these matches and has the most experience doing it.  The east side has had a new captain each year.     

And finally, Thanks Joe and Zeke.  You guys did great.

A few things wrong with these thoughts. First off, Shanon, GI, Perry,  and Dresser are a few of your strongest competitors. They are ones we have to match up against carefully. Also, Joe has been captain for 2 years now. That's it. Tracy was the captain before that.

Don't cheat me.  That was my 3rd.  Tracy had 2012-2013, I have had 2014-2016.  And I guess I will continue as long as I am wanted.  I enjoy the work even though I find less and less time each year.  You should put Jake Bowen back in charge of the East, for 1) He has experience and a win, and 2) I would really enjoy working with him, and especially enjoy beating him

But if someone else wants the Captaining of the West, I will step down and work in the background as a consultant.

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Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2016--June 18th and 19th Location TBD

« on: June 21, 2016, 08:24:36 AM »

I do love this event more than any other, and I love all my Missouri friends just as much as my Kansas ones.  Thank you all for the fun competition, and I will get the 2012 Missouri champs moved back to the front of the trophy! 

P.S.  Maybe next year you should go back to your home, Waterworks.  The only place you win.

And quit playing so many best-shot doubles over there.  Start working on your singles game:)

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Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2016--June 18th and 19th Location TBD

« on: June 21, 2016, 08:21:09 AM »

Statistically, west side seems to have an edge winning four consecutive times.I'll do my research to support my theory next.

What difference does it make?

Okay, you don't care.  We get it.

I do care and you should know better than to accuse me of not caring.  That being said, take a look at the statistics from last weekend Jose.  The Lawrence players didn't cost us the tournament...

Lawrence:
Lazzo 1-2
Wisbey 1-2
Martin 1-1-1
Heinen 1-1-1
Atwater 1-1
Cooper (Some would call Tonganoxie-Lawrence) 1-2
Total  6-2-9

Lawrence didn't win the West.  But we love those guys either way.  Babbit, Liz, and Clemons won (9-0).  But don't worry, Clemons is a true Missourian, and I'm sure you will have him back before too long.  But we want Shanan back when that happens, cuz I know he bleeds blue.
Until then, like Tracy said, it is  "which side is better".  Why should it matter whether we have a few better players.  KU always had better players than Mizzou.  Mizzou didn't whine, (too much), they just tried to play their best to beat them, and once in a while that would happen.  Maybe that will happen for you guys....someday.

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Tournaments / Re: KCWO & Team Challenge

« on: June 07, 2016, 07:52:57 AM »

Hinck, start making babies, and then you will be a father and the day will be all yours to do with what you want

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Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2016--June 18th and 19th (Locations Announced)

« on: May 25, 2016, 01:21:52 PM »

Zeke will be updating the East side team this evening or tomorrow, as well as posting the Saturday, June 18th Best-Shot doubles Course.

As far as the West is concerned...

Sunday the 19th:
Alternate Shot doubles at Prairie Center (tee at 9:30am, snake draft at 9:15, all players be there by 9:00am for roster check)

Lunch

Singles @ Lakeside after lunch, approx. 1:30 snake draft.

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General Banter / Re: West Side Team Page (2016 Qualifier announcement)

« on: May 25, 2016, 08:23:49 AM »

I have chosen Bobby as one of my Captain's picks because of his undefeated Match-play over the last couple of years.

Anybody else that would like to be a part of the West Side team, I will be taking the top 3 scores from the competitive division of the Heritage Park Open weekend, June 4th and 5th.  It is $10 to play, and you can play Saturday or Sunday or both.  Flex start both days.  Top score from Saturday and top 2 scores from Sunday will be taken. (3 total) 

...But please understand, you will get a shirt and be a part of the winning side, but I cannot guarantee you a round.  I will do my best to get everyone in, but we are playing to win, so I will put out what I think is the best team available that round.

Good Luck!

Only 3 weeks left until West Side domination! 

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Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2016--June 18th and 19th Location TBD

« on: May 19, 2016, 08:00:14 AM »

Not Matthew Perry!! No

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General Banter / Re: West Side Team Page (2016 Qualifier announcement)

« on: May 18, 2016, 10:53:36 PM »

Kansas (West side) Men's & Women's Qualifiers include:

Friday, May 13th - Wyco League - Kelly Babbit 56, Jake Lazzo 58

Diva Feeva - Liz Borg-bowman, Kaylee Kincaid

Wednesday, May 18th - Lakeside(Olathe) League - 3 spots + ties (19 hole layout - 6 56's tied for 1st.  2 56's already qualified, the other 4 take the last 4 spots on the West - Dick Parker, Cory Sharp, Matt Jenkins, Daniel Stracke

4 Captains Picks I will be coordinating with the 16 qualified players to see who can play when on Challenge Weekend and put together a list of potential captains picks that will be needed…then announce a date for a 1 round playoff for those captains picks to compete for the team.  Not sure whether there will be 2,3, or 4 spots available yet.

Qualified Players: 16 total
Joe Hesting
Arturo Villareal
Chris Clemens
Isaac Heinen
Cooper Arnold
Peter Bures
Marc Wisbey
Kaleb Martin
Kevin Zane
Kelly Babbit
Jake Lazzo
Liz Borg-Bowman
Dick Parker
Cory Sharp
Matt Jenkins
Daniel Stracke

Alternates
Kaylee Kincaid
Bobby Villareal

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General Banter / Re: West Side Team Page (2016 Qualifier announcement)

« on: May 18, 2016, 08:24:09 AM »

*Attention*

Don't forget, West side Qualfier for Team challenge at Lakeside Olathe PDGA league tonight. Sign in by 5:45, tee at 6:00.

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General Banter / Re: West Side Team Page (2016 Qualifier announcement)

« on: May 16, 2016, 07:37:06 AM »

West side Qualifier at Lakeside tonight is postponed due to wet weather all day.
Looking to maybe hold it at lakeside Wednesday or Thursday of this week, or next Monday. Keep an eye out for more updates.
Thanks

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General Banter / Re: West Side Team Page (2016 Qualifier announcement)

« on: May 15, 2016, 10:05:59 AM »

Kansas (West side) Men's & Women's Qualifiers include:

Tuesday, April 19th - SMP League - 2 spots + ties

Friday, May 13th - Wyco League - Kelly Babbit 56, Jake Lazzo 58

Diva Feeva - Liz Borg-bowman, Kaylee Kincaid

Monday, May 16th - Lakeside(Olathe) League - 2 spots (ties will be sudden-death playoff)

Wednesday, May 25th - Rosedale League - If needed, 2-3 spots at most.

4 Captains Picks (Do not lose hope; I will be selecting 2 Captain's Picks of my choosing...the other 2 spots will be competed for.  I will invite 8-10 Kansas players that have expressed interest on making the team and have showed up to other qualifiers, and they will play it off for those last 2 spots) - by June 1st

Qualified Players: 12 total
Joe Hesting
Arturo Villareal
Chris Clemens
Isaac Heinen
Cooper Arnold
Peter Bures
Marc Wisbey
Kaleb Martin
Kevin Zane
Kelly Babbit
Jake Lazzo
Liz Borg-Bowman

Alternates
Kaylee Kincaid

2 more studs qualified in the Wyco Winds.

From what I can tell, and please tell me if I'm wrong, but Elisabeth Borg-Bowman shot the hot round for the West side yesterday and qualified for the ladies spot on the team challenge. With Kaylee Kincaid grabbing the alternate spot.

Congrats Liz and Kaylee Kincaid!!
Nice shooting!

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General Banter / Re: West Side Team Page (2016 Qualifier announcement)

« on: May 13, 2016, 08:58:48 PM »

Kansas (West side) Men's & Women's Qualifiers include:

Tuesday, April 19th - SMP League - 2 spots + ties

Friday, May 13th - Wyco League - Kelly Babbit 56, Jake Lazzo 58

Monday, May 16th - Lakeside(Olathe) League - 2 spots (ties will be sudden-death playoff)

Saturday, May 14th - KC Diva Feeva - 2 Women's spots (1 starter, 1 alternate) (Ties will be sudden-death playoff)

Wednesday, May 25th - Rosedale League - If needed, 2-3 spots at most.

4 Captains Picks (Do not lose hope; I will be selecting 2 Captain's Picks of my choosing...the other 2 spots will be competed for.  I will invite 8-10 Kansas players that have expressed interest on making the team and have showed up to other qualifiers, and they will play it off for those last 2 spots) - by June 1st

Qualified Players: 11 total
Joe Hesting
Arturo Villareal
Chris Clemens
Isaac Heinen
Cooper Arnold
Peter Bures
Marc Wisbey
Kaleb Martin
Kevin Zane
Kelly Babbit
Jake Lazzo

2 more studs qualified in the Wyco Winds.