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General Banter / Re: Raymore course
« on: July 24, 2014, 11:21:54 AM »

Rosedale - Par 58
(All DZ are played if Mando is missed, If shot goes OB, then play from last place in bound)

1 - 495ft - Tennis Courts, Skate Park, Parking Lot (Long Left)
2 - 397ft - OB Line Left (Long Left)
3 - 304ft (Long Right)
4 - 436ft - OB Line Left (Par 4) (Long Far Right)
5 - 329ft (Long Right)
6 - 295fr - Over Fence (Long Straight)
7 - 361ft (Long)
8 - 515ft = OB Line, Play Drop Zone if shot goes OB, If shot from DZ goes OB, replay DZ. If shot goes OB from the Island, play from last place in bounds. (Par 4) (Long Island)
9 - 379ft - OB Line Left, Fence (Long Right of Stairs)
10 - 328ft - Road and over, Mando Right (Long Straight)
11 - 351ft - Road and over, Mando Left (First Long Left)
12 - 380ft - Road/Curb and Over (Long Right)
13 - 504ft - Road and over (Par 4) (Long)
14 - 301ft - Road and over (Bottom of Stairs)
15 - 363ft - Road and over/Fence (Long)
16 - 421ft - Fence (Long)
17 - 529ft - Road and over/Fence (Par 4) (long)
18 - 647ft - Road and over/Fence (par 4) (Long Practice Basket to Right)

Just a head's up, your Par at Rosedale adds up to 59.

I feel like some of that brush helps prevent erosion that is already bad on a couple of those holes.  So hacking it down once a year seems a little better than removing it all the way.  Rosedale doesn't need anymore bare spots.

General Banter / Re: The 'Official' ACE Thread!
« on: July 23, 2014, 08:01:31 AM »
Got hole 1 at Stocksdale tonight. Not sure on the distance, but threw a DD verdict. First throw, first hole. Bowen, Perry and my brother as witnesses.  Course is looking good, can't wait until it's fully complete!!

Nice!  Christening the course already.  Go spray paint the bright blue band - Jordan Hinck, 1st Ace....Jk Don't do that.

on Original hole 17 - the Mando needs to be moved back 1 tree. This allows a safe shot but still a challenge with risk/reward. the second shot doesnt interfere with 9's fairway or 18's  teepad.

^ I said same thing.  If you lay up down the hill by 17's short pin.  This is the best line up to 12's Peninsula basket.  And this doesn't affect hole 9 or 18.  The way it is now, the only good line up to 12's Peninsula basket is to throw it 550ft over into 13's fairway.  Moving the Mando would then make this hole a Par 4, instead of a Par 5 though. But what do I know.  I am only calling it how I would want to play it. Need more players that are playing in the MAC to speak up.

Nothing wrong on the #8 movement Scott, to accomplish that feeling on #1 though you may want to think about the short hole #1, and the parking to long #1 though. 

I think you will have a hard enough time finding parking for everyone without using some of the limited spaces for a tee.

Scott, I enjoyed the course on Wednesday.  No missed Mandos, no OBs, but still should have shot better.  But I had fun with the changes.

There is a few Mandos that are questionable to me, but Hey, what do I know...I'm just a pro, and I can't play in the my voice does not matter  :'(

Only 1 last thing, and this will probably tick off half the field....but I think next year, in order to really call it the Midwest Amateur should be strictly 1 Champion.  1 rec, no int, no age restrictions....1 Champion to rule them all.  Actually 2 champions, with the Women's Champ.

I look forward to seeing all you crazy guys chucking your plastic at the MAC.  Maybe I will help you find your disc if it goes in the woods....If it doesn't go too far in.

Good Luck

Joe - this is not a ball buster, just my thoughts...

I think the intention for the MAC is to give Ams the experience of playing in a larger tournament without paying a $100 entry fee.  Tee times for instance are never utilized for a C or B tier.  Sometimes A, but not B or C. 

With larger tournies, such as GBO, Shunga Nunga, etc., tightening up the fairways and extending them is part of the tournament experience.  Admittedly, I tend to shoot below my rating on longer holes, mandos, OB rope, etc.  However, I enjoy them more when they are utilized in a tournament.  If I want to play the normal course, I go to league or have a casual but serious round with my friends.  For tournaments, I personally want the difficulty kicked up a notch.


I agree with some of the comments here. Where as I don't personally have the tournament experience, I can get as much experience playing the same course over and over but not gain 'that' much knowledge of 'how to play'. Just in preparation for the MAC, I've started playing Rosedale and Water Works on an alternating schedule every week. Yet, I'm quickly learning it doesn't really matter with the regular course set ups, a tournament NEEDS to change the regular layouts. The whole point of playing disc golf, is to have fun, get better, and compete against your own play, as well as others.
I, for one, am excited to play new courses and set ups. I believe that's where the true reward is in playing tournaments.
Just my thoughts...

And This^^^

Who wants to play the same course you can play any day of the week all year long.  And the people travelling in from out of town are still playing on the same hills, grass, trees.  They just don't get to play the easier set-up we play all year long.

Challenge yourself!

I'm excited to watch my friends play well on these amped up courses ;)

It's the only course in town that has the baskets moved a couple of times a week, thank you BOB WARD!, and it's the main reason I regularly drive past three other courses on my way in to play Rosey. Please allow Bob to continue to move the baskets this week. Clean up hole 1's tourney placement (it hasn't been used all year), the cat box on 16 also, and then move the baskets during the week prior. You may earn a little good will from the majority of the people who play this course, the one's not playing in the MAC.

IMHO, Neither Rosedale nor Waterworks needs to be set-up 2 weeks in advance.  If you want to practice the set-up early, you can always play to the pin.  There doesn't have to be a basket there.

General Banter / Re: WaterWorks Hole 17
« on: July 16, 2014, 10:01:45 AM »
This is where common sense should come in to play.  OB. That is not how the hole was inteded to be played. Don't use stretched technicality to get yourself out of a bad throw. It's about the integrity of the game.

This is stupid.  The hole was not designed to play safe across that parking area.  There is an OB line, that wraps around the basket on the rock wall and around logs.  We can solve this by putting a simple line straight from center of parking area across 13's fairway.  13 is now an island (a really large one), and you cannot play 17 across the street.  Done.

Or we can play 17 to hole 12's peninsula basket, as we will do tonght and the MAC, and this area across road will now be safe.  No questions

Tournaments / Re: PITT Open
« on: July 08, 2014, 08:57:05 PM »
Will the $500 be added to Pro or all divisions?

Found and Lost / Re: found at Shawnee mission park
« on: July 08, 2014, 01:34:20 PM »
Keep an eye out for a Lucid Pink Trespass in the Evergreens to the left and short on 18.  Thanks

Tournaments / Re: 2014 KC Mini Series
« on: July 07, 2014, 02:59:11 PM »

Yeah then the following weekend hold a tournament at Birdland and Prairie Center.  We can call it the Lakeside Center Uppity Chuck.

What happened to the Ram 'n Salmon?  Would be a great series for PC/Birdland.

Called Old Settlers, Labor Day weekend every year.

Can we ban this Steeler fan, until he starts to get with the times?

Tournaments / Re: 2014 KC Mini Series
« on: July 07, 2014, 01:30:15 PM »
It's not cancelled yet, it has just been postponed.   I want to still run it, just having trouble settling on a weekend.

You should postpone it until Stocksdale is in the ground, then make it a Young Park/Stocksdale tournament.  Just my .02

You can call it the Wilbur Dale Hillbilly Huck ;)

Tournaments / Re: 2014 KC Mini Series
« on: July 07, 2014, 11:22:32 AM »
Eastern Front is cancelled due to all DD staff going to Dallas to throw inside AT&T stadium.  Stupid Cowboys fans ::)

Tournaments / Re: 2nd Annual Freedom Superclass Showdown - July 4th
« on: July 07, 2014, 09:30:42 AM »
16 Super Classy Gentlemen out at Waterworks for some Doubles action.  Waterworks was a lot of fun, but turned out to be kind of a tweener course for the ol Superclass discs.  Lots of pars, and most the birdies that were hit, at least on my card, were throw-ins from 5 feet outside the 100-footers  :o

JoeH/HaroldB -     52 - $60 - Joe Moko bombs, and Mr. Harry Putts
CD/JaimeB -          53 - $36 - Won CTP playoff - (You're welcome for the 185g Zephyr, CD)
JordanH/TravisC - 53 - $16 - 2nd in CTP playoff
MattP/TonyB -       53
Loomis/Stiles -      54
EricE/DanH -         56
JakeB/AndrewS -  57
Tank/ShaneD -     57

Ctp's were won by Berry on Hole 3 ($8), and Matt Perry on Hole 8 ($8)

Skins were won by sole birdies on certain holes...CD/Berry on Hole 3 ($5), Joe/Harold on Hole 4 ($5),  Loomis/Stiles on Hole 13 ($5).

17 bogies on the day, 14 birdies, and a lot of pars.  Some Sweet rollers, throw-ins-backhand and forehand(Stiles), and a lot of fun had.

Thanks everybody for coming out!  Look forward to the next one.

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