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Tournaments / Re: 2014 Frostbreaker
« on: January 22, 2014, 02:27:47 PM »
Just signed up.  This will only be my third time playing SMP. 

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Nice job on avoiding opening weekend of deer season.  Although, I think that's youth weekend, so maybe more gun shots than usual at some of the parks :)

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Shawnee Mission / Re: 8/13/13 Mini
« on: August 14, 2013, 09:05:51 AM »
My first time all the way through SMP.  Definitely not a fluff course.  I had a bit of trouble with the trees and a few missed puts.  None the less, I had a blast and might just have to add SMP to the Tuesday rotation.

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Summer Leagues / Re: What's going on with the lack of information?
« on: August 13, 2013, 03:09:12 PM »
I'm fairly new to the sport, and have only been a club member for the past two years.  I don't have kids (just the 4 legged kind) so I probably have more "free time" than some.  I would like to volunteer but I'm not sure how.  I'm an IT guy, but I'm not a programmer, so I won't be much help to you in building an app.  I think using spreadsheets for keeping track of league scores is at least a good place to start.

Openoffice.org is a free suite of software that is compatible with MS Office.  So you don't have to spend a bunch of $$ to get MS Excel.  Almost everyone has a PC, or at least knows someone who does.  Even if you have to convert from analog score sheets within a day or two you could have at least a spreadsheet of the nights scores.  Once you have the data in an MS Excel compatible format, you can export to almost any program such as MS Access for a database where you could then run and publish reports. 

You could also utilize Office 365, or some other hosted solution, to setup a sharepoint site where these reports could be published if the current KCFDC website does not work for this sort of document sharing.  Anyway, I'm just throwing some ideas out there.  Maybe this has all been thought of before, or I'm just preaching to the choir.

Let me know how I can help, and I'll do what I can.

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Shawnee Mission / Re: Tue League Still happening?
« on: August 13, 2013, 12:07:58 PM »
Good deal, just making sure.

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Shawnee Mission / Tue League Still happening?
« on: August 13, 2013, 09:44:04 AM »
Is the Tue League still happening out at SMP?  I don't see any results posted since June?

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Tournaments / Re: 2013 Discraft Ace Race
« on: August 12, 2013, 03:54:44 PM »
I have never been to an Ace Race before.  I thought it would be much quicker than it was, especially since it was only one throw per person, per hole.  I thought I could show up at 9, and get two rounds in by noon.  I guess everyone had the same idea that I did. 

Check in, large groups, and general confusion as to the layout were big slow downs I think.  All in all a fun event though. 

The disc was a bit more stable than I normally throw, so it took some getting used to.  I managed to hit metal once, but with the slow down between holes, it was hard to get any sort of consistency.  I left after one round, because I had another commitment.  I didn't think it would take almost 3 hours to check in and play one round.  I'll plan accordingly next year and get there early!

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Tournaments / Re: Old Settlers Open 2013
« on: August 09, 2013, 09:31:36 AM »
Just signed up, this should be another awesome event! 

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Tournaments / Re: 2013 Midwest Amateur Championships - August 3rd
« on: August 05, 2013, 09:48:19 AM »
I just want to say thank you for putting on a great tournament.  It was well organized and thought out.  A huge thank you for all of the water available for the afternoon round at WW!!  I think I drank about a gallon of water during that round.  Those hills were tough on a big man!

As for the entry fee vs players pack, I agree that this was a great players pack for a low fee.  I'd like to say that I made it home with everything, but my stool didn't fare so well!!  It only made it about half way through the first round before collapsing. 

As to the additional rounds, A vs B tier etc...  I would like to see a similiar format next year.  I can see a case for making the Advanced an A tier, and or having them play a third round, but leave at least the Rec div to play an easier layout.  I have heard quite a few people comment that Rec is mostly younger players.  That may be true, but it's also for inexperienced players, or players who just want to go and have fun in a competition environment.  I.E. Fat Old men play Rec too :)  Just my $.02!

Again, Great tourney!  I had a blast!     

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Tournaments / Re: 2013 Midwest Amateur Championships - August 3rd
« on: July 30, 2013, 10:14:12 AM »
Someone must have a direct line to the big guy upstairs, as we are going to have another awesome weekend!  <90 in August...in the midwest???  Two weekends in a row???  Say what???  Looks like a 40% chance for rain both days, but as long as its not an all day thing, a brief shower might help keep things cool. 

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Bag Tags / 2014 bag tag ideas
« on: July 30, 2013, 08:24:04 AM »
I think it would be cool to have different historic areas or landmarks of KC from in or around our parks.  I.E. the Water Tower at Waterworks, or the Scenic River Overlook near Cliff Drive, Historic Northeast district homes, Oklahoma Joe's near Rosie, or the Rosedale arch, the Club House at Swope Park, even Union Station or Liberty Memorial although they are not really associated with the parks ...  there are plenty of historic and or scenic areas in or near our parks that could showcase the diversity of KC and our many parks. 

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Found and Lost / Lost Blue Blizard Wraith at Legacy hole 8
« on: July 29, 2013, 02:06:49 PM »
Lost it Saturday morning.  Should be to the Right of the big tree in the rough.  I looked for about 10 minutes and couldn't find it.

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General Banter / Re: Disc Golf shoes
« on: July 15, 2013, 03:59:51 PM »
I wait for Bass Pro or Cabelas to have a sale on hiking boots and pick up a pair.  I usually have to special order (13 EEE), but they most other sizes available.  They only last about a year,  but for $30 it's not a bad deal. 

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General Banter / Re: Pay to play in KC
« on: July 08, 2013, 04:37:33 PM »
Most recently, while I was wading through knee high grass searching for another bad throw during the Paradise Diamond tourney, I looked across the lake to the Ball Golf course and had to admire their very neatly manicured green, beautiful green fairway and distinct lack of knee high grass.  It was at that time, while I was noticing the third tick crawling up my "bag", that I thought what a pay to play course for DG could be like. 

I think the major problem with this idea is that the economy sucks, and most Disc Golfers are hard working folks just trying to have some cheap fun and maybe get a little exercise.  Taking what is now a cheap sport and making it pay to play would just rub salt in the wounds, and probably drive off a few individuals that make great contributions to the sport and our parks. 

On the other side of the coin, think of it like using the Jackson County Lakes.  Our taxes pay for the lakes, but to camp or to use the marinas you still have to buy a pass.

Right now P&R, be it KC, LS, Olathe, etc... owns the land/parks that the courses currently reside on.  I'm sure they would love to go Pay to Play to generate more income, but I wonder how much of that would be returned to the parks.  Up until this year, I have purchased a Jackson County lakes pass.  I have watched the fees get higher and higher over the past few years, until this year when the fees got so outrageous (I'm sure glad they spent a small fortune to overhaul the county offices) that I did not purchase a lake pass.

The only way I see Pay to Play working is on privately owned and developed land, like many Ball Golf courses.  In that regard, I can see a nice multi-sport complex with immaculate greens, disc shacks, maybe even a club house with a locker room and the whole 9 yards.  The question is, would anyone pay for the "extras"?

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Have you played many leagues?  Your interpretation isn't the same as the majority of those that attend KCFDC leagues.  Maybe except the Jack's NE KCMO PDGA league, which should be since it's a rated round.  Even rounds with side bets or other money in play that I've played, all PDGA rules don't apply.  It's up to the group majority to decide whatever rules you play by.  What I'm saying is you can decide whatever rules you want and convince your friends to go along with, but I thought your question was to ask the KC community what we think.  I think your interpretation of a competitive round is not what the majority think.   
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I have played in a few leagues, in fact I'll use last Friday night at Legacy as an example.  It was Friday, it was an unsanctioned doubles league, I was drinking and smoking *something*, but I was still asked to be quite while other people were throwing, and expected to abide by courtesy rules, including order of play.   

But from what I'm hearing on this forum I guess I can show up to any league event, talk as loud as I want, cuss, smoke, drink, hell run naked through the middle of the course all without penalty?  SWEET!!!  BTW it won't be "family friendly" and you might just have to bleach your brain after you see it, but what the hell?  No penalty strokes here as long as I stay in bounds, right?

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