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Tournaments / Re: Roc V Buzzz 2013 - September 21 @ Swope Park
« on: September 23, 2013, 11:30:27 pm »
Is this some kind of OP math that Paola folks don't get? 21 holes times 4 per should be 84 strokes.

lol I was still stuck on 18 holes. Valid point, although I suppose the 72 stroke limit served it's purpose well either way.

Tournaments / Re: Roc V Buzzz 2013 - September 21 @ Swope Park
« on: September 22, 2013, 10:03:51 pm »
I'll do this one thing at a time-

Team Buzz only lost because it was the most popular disc choice. There needs to be a equal match up between teams. If team Roc can only come up with 11 players then just use the top 11 scores on Team Buzz.

You can't ignore the worst Buzzz throwers without ignoring the worst Roc throwers as well, wouldn't be fair. Instead you have to use either the standard deviation (which takes a lot of math, and Erik should have that data posted soon), or you simply take a certain percentage of each team.  Drop, say, the bottom 20% from each team. Then you'd drop the bottom 2 players from team Roc, and the bottom 4 from team Buzzz.

After doing that, team Roc averages 123 exactly, and team Buzzz's average was 125 exactly.

There was also one player that finished ahead of me who thought 4 was the max score you could take on one hole and I saw him get at a 7 on one hole. Maybe that rule was only for Team Roc members.

The rule was that the maximum round score was 72, which was to eliminate extreme outliers. That does break down to 4 shots per hole, but it wasn't mean to be used on each hole, it was meant to be used for the round in it's entirety. If someone interpreted it that way, that was their mistake.

Tournaments / Re: Roc V Buzzz 2013 - September 21 @ Swope Park
« on: September 19, 2013, 10:25:55 am »
I don't need 15-20, it's just fun to carry around a bag full of Rocs.

Tournaments / Re: Roc V Buzzz 2013 - September 21 @ Swope Park
« on: September 19, 2013, 12:56:43 am »
sounds about right: 15-20 rocs = 1 buzzz.

The idea that you can do all the shots that a Roc can do with a Buzzz is laughable.

Tournaments / Re: Roc V Buzzz 2013 - September 21 @ Swope Park
« on: September 18, 2013, 06:36:27 pm »
The way I understand it, you can use as many of the one disc as you want.

So I'll have a bag full of Rocs. Like 15-20 of them.

Shawnee Mission / Re: 9/10/2013 Mini - Next week start @ 5:45
« on: September 11, 2013, 10:57:41 pm »
Steve got #10 with a roller? Damn I wish I was there.

$40 for AMs for a 2-day B-Tier is a really good deal.

I'm hoping to play this event, is anyone else playing AM? Or is anyone else planning on staying Saturday night anyway?

General Banter / Re: Thoughts on Innova Atlas and Nova
« on: September 04, 2013, 11:35:31 pm »
Personally I think the whole 'gyro' technology bit is a gimmicky crock.

Do flying discs rely heavily on gryoscopics? Yes.

Do MVP discs, and other overmolded discs, have more 'gyroscopic stability' than a normal disc? No.

The difference in weight around the rim (which is how you would enhance gyroscopic stability) is negligible.

Tournaments / Re: Old Settlers Open 2013 - August 31st
« on: September 02, 2013, 01:28:22 pm »
Thanks for the critique and positive comments. The course will continue to improve, I hope. It's a lot of real estate to manage fo sure.  8)

The boxes are 10' long. I had asked the City to make them 12' long, but 10' is what we got.  :(

The tweeners will be addressed over time. Eventually, 2, 3, 4, 6, 11, 8, 12, 14, 16, and 18 will all get an additional 75' to 150' in length. 1, 4, 11 will all get a shorties as well.

The hangy down limbs within 15'-20' of the pin on 14 will be fertilized and nurtured.  :P

I look forward to seeing the course develop over time, the land is amazing.

Observation:   I didn't see the tournament on

You have to go back to August to find it.

Tournaments / Re: Old Settlers Open 2013 - August 31st
« on: September 01, 2013, 10:46:30 pm »
I do enjoy playing Birdland, only thing I really don't like are the handful of tweener holes out there. Need to shorten a few or stretch them out another hundred feet and call them par 4's. Hole 1 is a great opening hole!

 Well ran event and seemed that everything went off without a hitch...!

#14 comes to mind as a tweener. You'd need a 550 foot hyzer bomb to get a 2, but it's a really easy 3 with just a hyzer and an upshot.

Beginners / Re: Hello and help
« on: August 31, 2013, 12:39:35 am »
The guy in the video has no follow through and the video is not an entertaining way to learn how to play. 

Best bet is to go to youtube, type in PDGA, and press enter.  Watch these videos.  These are the world's best. 


Actually the Beato video is how I learned how to do an x-step. The video isn't perfect but I like how he starts from a 1-step approach, then 2-steps, then a full x-step.

That's how I learned how to do an x-step after playing almost 3 years of disc golf without it.

Tournaments / Re: Old Settlers Open 2013 - August 31st
« on: August 27, 2013, 09:04:38 pm »
What about the burrrrrrrs?

Shawnee Mission / 8/27/2013 Mini
« on: August 27, 2013, 09:03:43 pm »
4 braved the heat.

Peter Bures - 49 - $10
Carl Pledger - 54
Brett Maasen - 55
Mark Lienemann - 55

With everybody in, Ace Fund up to $388.

Tournaments / Re: Old Settlers Open 2013 - August 31st
« on: August 26, 2013, 08:44:40 pm »
Any idea on what divisions will be playing where yet?

Summer Leagues / Re: What's going on with the lack of information?
« on: August 25, 2013, 11:28:18 pm »
As for Shawnee Mission League-

1. Yes, league has been happening for the last few months, although I was lazy about posting scores. My fault. I have mostly been updating the spreadsheet, however, and am just a tad behind on depositing money, but otherwise on track.

2. As of August, I haven't been able to get off work early enough to run league, so Steve Thimmesch has been filling in until league ends for the fall anyways. Steve has always been my go-to guy for running league if I was unable, and he's a tremendous help whenever I need help moving baskets or doing other random small jobs around the course (although Parks and Rec does most of these things themselves anyways).

3. For next year, I'd certainly be interested in staying on as both Course Coordinator and League Director for SMP; it's something I've enjoyed doing and I like being able to help out. As I mentioned before about Parks and Rec, I don't have as many responsibilities as CCs at other courses (P&R empties the trash and mows regularly, handles maintenance on baskets/signs for the most part, and they're very particular about doing any other physical improvements to the course themselves), but I like to be able to help the little that needs to be done. By next year, my work schedule should mostly back to normal and I'll be able to be there to run league.

4. Otherwise, I don't have much to add to the conversation about how leagues are run and how to improve such. I'm young and still pretty new to all of this, so I'm just on board to do my part. Once everyone figures out what is best for the leagues in the future, I'll be glad to participate however I can.

As a bit of a side note as well for next year, Rob Martin had shown interest in helping make SMP a PDGA League, which I (and many who I talked to) thought would be a great idea, and would surely help boost numbers at a very small league. Unfortunately time kind of ran short this summer/fall and there weren't enough weeks left to accommodate. I'd look forward to, early next year, do 10 weeks of PDGA League at SMP (probably once the days got long enough for 6PM starts). Not to jump the gun on those kinds of details for next year, just throwing it out there.

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