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Summer Leagues / Re: What's going on with the lack of information?

« on: August 07, 2013, 05:19:22 PM »

running leagues is such a chore.  tracking money from week to week, ace fund money, money in and money out, depositing money, posting info after leagues, paper work paper work paper work.  I tried it and it was something that i dreaded.  folks get upset over small things, your the first one there and last to leave often etc.  leagues are the KCFDC's lifeblood and getting and keeping folks in the position is difficult.   it is a hard job to keep filled from year to year on certain courses.   yes, we are a voluntary organization, but there needs to be an incentive to run league.  this has been discussed before and so many folks trash any suggestions or thoughts of incentives.  i think that it is becoming more obvious that this needs to be discussed with the board.  you cant keep asking for folks to volunteer for trash pick up, volunteer for work days, volunteer for a 3/4 of a year league position, and expect high enthusiasm, strong turnout, and quality performances.  at some point something has to give. if you want quality at your leagues, it has to be worth it for folks to give so much.  so here are some suggestions and i do not care if get lambasted by all those remarks of why we give back.. the spirit of volunteerism, blah blah blah.  I do not care to here folks replies of why we should not give back to those who give to the club. 

1.all league runners get free entry into the KCWO
2.all league runners get free membership in KCFDC
3. all league runners get a nice KCFDC embroidered shirt that has their course name on it.
4. possibly work out  a store discount for league runners (like the  kcfdc $1 off at DGW)

Any one else have any suggestions on how to provide incentives to league directors that make the directors feel a little more appreciated and which in turn makes the position more desirable and highly sought after? If folks really want the position, you get better folks in the position.  Plus, then folks  may not want to lose  the position,  it is sought after, and it offers great incentives.  We are a volunteer group and we should not pay in USD, but it is time to explore the league process and incentives.

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General Banter / Re: Ball and Chain League

« on: August 06, 2013, 12:20:45 PM »

oh jordan... you are still in the honeymoon stage.  enjoy your time without kids, cause once they come then your life really changes.   disc golf, what is that ?

Being married is really no different than having a serious girlfriend.  this league should be for guys with kids. i used to get the free pass on 8 hour work days in the summer or  weekend to work on courses, now i have to schedule around feedings, naps, my list of things to do, wife's list of things to do, etc. 

i like the idea of this league.  Pete Engleman and his crew play very early every Sat mornings for this reason.  A lot of the older guys that play on Saturdays have families and busy weekends.  i do however like the later start time.  seems more bachelor than ball and chain. 

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Young Park - Blue Springs / Re: Blue Springs South High School - students return when?

« on: August 03, 2013, 09:03:37 AM »

That is a public park, hours from sunrise to  11pm(i believe), alcohol is allowed, and it can be played regardless of school in session.   School property is within 1000' of park if that means anything to anyone in your group. 

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Tournaments / Re: 2013 Midwest Amateur Championships - August 3rd

« on: August 02, 2013, 03:51:10 AM »

Wow, nice package...!

that is funny stuff Van... if you think middle school humor is funny.

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Rosedale / Re: Down Under Single Disc 7/2 at 9:00 AM

« on: August 01, 2013, 09:16:54 AM »

not sure if Blue Springs has one either.  maybe Ben got that done,  i never gained much traction when asking for one.

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Prairie Center / Re: PC Neglect

« on: July 23, 2013, 09:08:27 AM »

i feel your pain.  the last couple years i focused a great deal of time at Wilbur Young, while William Yates was getting no love and being vandalized/overgrown.  It is hard for a small group of folks to take care of so many courses and makes you really sad when you go back and see something once nice looking so run down.  You can only do so much Andy or else you will get burned out. 

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General Banter / Re: *Insert Positive Forum Post Here*

« on: July 16, 2013, 08:40:36 AM »

Cooper,
in case you were being sincere, , here is the contact info for the pe teacher responsible for getting 25-30k worth of work done for around 8k.  Most folks do not realize the cost of building a woods course and reclaiming land.  He made it happen and a thank you would be appreciated. Also, thanks to Steve Dresser who has worked hard up there using his own skid steer, spending his own time and money, to help dig out extra short kiddie pads. 

Attn: Bill Lentz
Fox Hill Elementary School‎
545 N.E. 106th Street
Kansas City, MO 64155


here is the number in case you would personally like to thank him.  each employee has his own voicemail (816) 413-6500

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General Banter / Re: *Insert Positive Forum Post Here*

« on: July 15, 2013, 10:51:03 AM »

Hey Teddy,  I got to give Bill Lentz at Fox Hill much love. He is an amazing guy.  Soooo much work went into that place and Bill made it happen.  He does not even play disc golf, yet has built a successful course and has folks exercising in a lifetime fitness activity.  How awesome is it to have kids, parents, and grandparents playing together.  Bill has to do so much of the maintenance and knew that prior to the course going in and yet still openly embraced the concept of disc golf. 

I know he appreciates the work of the local disc golfers helping keep the course clean. 

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General Banter / Re: What is your favorite basket?

« on: July 02, 2013, 10:55:59 PM »

Stocksdale Park in Liberty will likely be installing Discatcher Pros.  Looking to have some extra baskets out there as well for some longer gold pins and they will not move from those gold settings.  Short pads on longer holes as well.

 Course work has continued.  They went in and carpet bombed the ivy.  Put a guy in a haz mat suit to go into some areas and dropped a ton of Tordon.  More work occurring this week-building mounds for a couple baskets.  Dozer will be on site shortly.

I do agree with Jack about the rust issues in the past, however, they did respond promptly to Eric Eastwood's complaint by sending new chains for Legacy.  I guess only time will tell if they have resolved their rust issues. 

As far as pollution, i think each park department is likely to have different opinions.  some departments like to showcase their course/courses since they invest significant portions of their limited budgets and are proud to offer another lifetime fitness activity.  plus many departments have discussed disc golf and it takes years to get the course installed and they want to public to know about the course by displaying brightly colored baskets.  Also, the brightly colored baskets do help  make other park users in multi-use parks  aware that they are getting near something if they are just out casually walking.  I think cooper brings up great points about brightly colored playground equipment, shelters, park signs etc.   Some equipment is largely earth tone colors but most of the equipment stands out.

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Rosedale / Re: 16's fairway

« on: June 29, 2013, 05:45:31 PM »

mike, yes and no about cost of trees.  i bought two 25' London Plane Sycamores last fall for 100 a piece. industry standard is $80 and inch, and the trees i have our 4".  They are kicking ass this summer and doing great.  you just have to shop the nurseries.  sometimes they just want to get rid of the bigger trees.  i planted them myself.  Sycamores are fantastic trees.  i thought i heard that KCMO arborist was against them, not sure though. Maybe wyco is different.  i love them because they are a hardwood, can grow up to 6 ft a year, and the London Plane variety was one of the only trees to have survived in the city of London during the worst of the soot/coal burning.  they can survive heat well and prosper near water since they lack a single tap root and it makes it harder for them to drown in high water tables.

i got a couple pics but do not know how  to get them uploaded.  when you see them, you can't believe they only cost 100. 

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William Yates Elementary / Re: Another Tombstone round 6/30 @ 8:30 AM

« on: June 26, 2013, 07:48:02 PM »

have not moved anything there or Wilbur.  been getting my all my disc golf fix from computer lately due to having a little baby girl on the 14th and being at nicu till this Friday. 

Jordan, it is in the works to build better and stronger tee signs and maybe some alt pad rework this fall.  we are going to have a juniors event there this fall and the pe teacher is on board at WYE.  i would like to get wye looking good again.  been awhile since we held a tourney,  but hoping to draw some of our new Fox Hill friends down along with the three Blue Springs schools that have baskets as well. 

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Found and Lost / Re: Water Works at dusk = :(

« on: June 21, 2013, 05:02:43 PM »

sometimes i will have a disc of a buddies that i  mean to get back to them after finding, but both parties will forget and they stay in my trunk.  Every time you see it you keep reminding yourself to get it to them and when you run into them at an event you talk about it, but then the dang thing goes back home with you again.

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General Banter / Re: Liberty, MO.

« on: June 13, 2013, 03:08:27 PM »

no tee pads yet.  baskets will go in first and we will play from grass and test tee locations.  moving a basket anchor is a lot easier than moving a tee pad.  use the map that posted above. 

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General Banter / Re: Liberty, MO.

« on: June 13, 2013, 12:12:05 PM »

I would look more to the end of the summer or early fall.  parks and rec got nailed with all the rain and have been playing catch up since.  they started the season off under staffed.  There has been work done by golfers recently. Ted Keith has been a force and can be contacted for future of the volunteer work. He also has a list of things that could be done if you are interested in helping rockiesfan43ver.

Here was a list that was sent to Chris Wilson of parks and rec if you are looking for things to do. Please do not remove any trees that are on the fairways even if marked.  Any help is greatly appreciated.  It would be nice for the disc golfers to make their presence felt, just like ERTA has done.  Those guys put in close to 6 miles of  single track with out the help of the park staff.   Any and all help from the disc golf community demonstrates our commitment to the park  is proves that we are a valued partner, just like ERTA. 


#2 Walking path from #2 tee to basket over dam needs to be cleaned all the way out opening up into hole #3 edge of fairway

#3  Lots of ivy. Near the tee looking at towards the  basket, there is a tree with  Green Tape that needs to be cut out. Everything on outside edge, outside the tree gap players throw thru needs to be cleaned out, but do not cut out areas that would allow players to use another gap besides one given.  Plus a spot near neighbors fence will need to be brushogged out so machines can get down to form #3's tee pad.  This hole will also need some sort of stair, rocks, steps to get to the tee after playing hole 2.  Or you can clean behind the dam and make a walking path from #2 to #3 tee.

#4  Around the tee needs to be cleaned up.  Around the trees near gully needs extra brush hog work since discs will be flying all around the tree gully area.

#5  lots of ivy under power lines. 

#6 clean up hole, move brush to the side, cut out new growth resprouting  that was cut out this spring.

#7  good 

#8 good

#9 lots of ivy along both sides of hole and just everywhere. 

#10 ivy along tree stand on right. 

#11 Ivy outside the trees. I never cut out the walking path to get to the rubble that was dropped and left.

#12 ivy in front of teepad  and located throughout the hole. 

#13 lots of ivy on outside of woods, some inside woods.  Lots of debris that needs to be mulched.  we cleaned the hole up so mowers could get in and mow.  there could also be some dirt work done or else it will be difficult to mow middle of fairway.

#14 Tee pad needs to brush hogged.

#15   cut out and remove all the stumps i cut out during the rough cut.  gather brush .  i have spent a lot of time on 15 and 6.  Path  needs to be cleaned to 16  and bridge. 

#16 ivy in wood line along fields/dam.  i would also like to brush hog everything up to the conservation tree line.  that is a lot more brush hogging but it will be necessary.  We also talked about planting trees.

#17 cleaning up dropped debris.  ivy treatment

#18 looks good.  planting a tree.

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General Banter / Re: Cliff Drive Work Day May 18th-NE Neighborhood Cleanup Day alignment

« on: May 31, 2013, 01:07:40 PM »

I wish all this energy on the discussion board could go into more positive things like workdays or just doing some  work while playing a round like picking up some trash or bringing out a trimmer and making the course look nicer.  We got our busy time of year upon us and work needs to be done and instead of banging out debates on the forum, how about working at your course?

 I wish i could do more and help with KCWO/local EJC courses/Liberty, but my wife is  having a baby soon and disc golf is really low on my list.   I hope that the newer players continue to come out and give back to the courses.   The hard core givers can only give so much and at some point we have to push to get new folks involved.  We all want the same thing and not everyone has to be "friends", but we should work on being "friendly". 

 As far as giving back, I would like to thank Ted Keith for killing himself out at Liberty and doing so much out there.  How can you make disc better in KC?  All over KC folks step up and make things happen.  No matter how big or small or time commitment is, what can you do instead of wasting time on this forum?  Or wasting the time of your employer ?