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Tournaments / Re: Fox Hill Juniors Tournament oct18
« on: October 16, 2014, 11:00:50 am »
We just got a box of goodies from Innova.  I know that Steve has several things coming in as well from Ben's sponsor.  DD is taking great care of us as well this year.  Thanks to everyone for their support.   

Weather looks amazing for Saturday.  Bring out your kid, niece or nephew, and take part one of the longest disc golf charity events in KC.  For $10 you get a disc, full size innova colored sticker, flight chart,  innova pin, and a raffle ticket.  Everyone will win something.   

Thanks again to all of our sponsors. 

Found and Lost / Re: 4 lost discs at Stockdale/BRC Disc course
« on: October 14, 2014, 12:16:29 pm »
the water is really high which has made for some interesting baskets near water.  there are some plans to eventually get a pipe for hole 15, not sure about hole 1-2.   the  pond by hole 15 is suprisingly deep at 12ft  in the center.  pond on hole 1 and 2 is no deeper than a couple feet. 

good luck hunting on the easier pond.   

Tournaments / Re: Fox Hill Juniors Tournament oct18
« on: October 09, 2014, 01:35:37 pm »
I posted this last year.  23 years later and still running an charity event juniors event. 

Here is a little history of Fox Hill disc golf and the doubles event.  Fox Hill's first PE teacher was Coach Duane Hall.  He started up a disc golf double tournament 22 years, back in 1991.  Coach Hall brought the event to Fox Hill from his former school, so the exact number of years is not known at this point.  Every year the event has raised funds for United Way.  The event has always cost $10 with all proceeds going to United Way.  It is believed that this event has raised between $5,000-$8,000 dollars over the last 22 years.  Coach Hall used the resources that he had available in supply closet, like so many PE teachers.  He made targets using cones, hula hoops, and homemade PVC flagsticks. 

Enter Coach Bill Lentz in  1995.  Bill picked up the tradition and continued to promote disc sports, disc golf, and ran the doubles event.  Folks have attended this event over the years to spend quality family time together, get some exercise, and raise funds for United Way.  Players did not complain about the types of baskets, the players pack, or the course set up.  They were simply out to have fun and huck some plastic.

Bill and I have been friends since we met at the Missouri Cupstacking Championship 11 years ago and he contacted me several years back about getting a disc golf course.  When we walked the land for the first time, I did not want to tell him how expensive it was going to be to clear all that land, grade it, seed it, spray it etc, but he remained optimistic.  Several years later, much to my amazement, Bill made Fox Hill a reality.  With thousand of dollars donated, thousands in machinery hours donated, thousand in time given by Messengers lawn care workers, Eagle Scout projects planned and finished, KCFDC work days,  Steve Dresser  running his skid, we now have  a real course to continue the legacy of Coach Duane Hall's doubles event.

Fox Hill Doubles will now be held for the 23rd year and Kansas City will be getting a quality Juniors event that will coincide with the longest running doubles event in Kansas City.  Don't miss out....... come out and join us for a fun filled family day of disc sports at the Kansas City Juniors Open on Oct 18th.

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William Yates Elementary / Re: Oct 4th Work Day
« on: October 08, 2014, 04:01:53 pm »
We had 8 folks out for  our work day.  We also are working on getting inner chains added to the baskets as well.  hopefully new tee signs if an eagle scout project get approved. 

thanks to epic church and to all the came out. 

Indep disc golf day is coming up.

General Banter / Re: Shared Use- MTBs and Disc Golf
« on: October 08, 2014, 12:45:19 pm »
Mnt bike  trails with switch backs take up enormous amounts of space.  Some trails are very linear, however, some sections have either tons of switch backs or go out and come back and will use same space but maybe 30-50 between trails.  Jack, i hope the mnt bikers are willing to offer you some space to work with and do not take up all the woods.   At BRC, there was nothing left in the woods that was untouched by the mtn bikers.  Their footprints is everywhere.  The few spots that we went into a BRC still have trails, however, those were the areas that had the fewest trails. 

I really hope they give you the space that you deserve to make something special. 

General Banter / Re: Shared Use- MTBs and Disc Golf
« on: October 08, 2014, 08:17:04 am »
I am not sure why we would want less courses?  Why drive 30 minutes if you can drive 10 minutes to play a great course?   Park departments want courses and often times the best land is already being used.  However, multipurpose parks hosts several things that an undeveloped park has

1. parking lots which costs thousands of dollars
2. bathrooms
3. water
4. likely been somewhat maintained and easier and cheaper to install a course
5. may previously get mowed so park does not increase mowing obligations as much as developing a new park
6.  shelters
7. playgrounds for your kids to use when you want to go throw a few holes

Mountain bikers and disc golfers both monopolize a ton of park space.  Sharing space and coexisting is a great model for both sports and will only increase traffic and interests for both sports.   So many disc golfers have this idea of this is our park or our space... i disagree with those thoughts and in order for the sport to grow we need to share the park and get more exposure.  Mike Keizer is correct when he wrote that folks just need to wait a second and let the riders have the right of way.  Calm down, take one more puff of your cigarette,  look in your bag one more second, and before you blink, the bike riders will have ridden away in the sunset.

General Banter / Re: Shared Use- MTBs and Disc Golf
« on: October 07, 2014, 05:55:21 pm »
Eric and Jack,
I have discussed with the trail steward  Clay and Matt Woody about different ideas at BRC.  BRC has some issues, but both groups want the same topography/densely covered areas.  So, in order to get the most of the parks, we need to start thinking how to address these issues.

some ideas we talked about were

- a bell with a rope/chain/pieces of material  that hangs down that the rider could grab/hit as they ride
-signs that would ask the user to call out"rider" or "Trail"

I know from riding trails that it can be scary at times when you are going too fast and you are not likely looking up  high off the ground so signs may be good in theory, but may not be very practical to other than the walkers.

On another note,  Fox Hill also has a walking trail and they recently had their "Disc Flying Area" signs stolen.  They were super nice and very expensive.  So, i  would bet that those $300 signs were stolen by disc golfers and now hanging in their man cave.  So damned if you do damned if you don't.    This is why i like the idea of some type of noise maker that hangs down.  Maybe something similar to the idea of really long tubes or  something like wind chimes  that are easy to hit with a swing of an arm versus trying to grab a rope/chain when bombing down a trail.

William Yates Elementary / Re: Oct 4th Work Day
« on: September 29, 2014, 04:18:49 pm »

Reminder that there is a workday at WYE on Oct 4th, at 9 am to ?   

Hoping to get WYE looking good for the Indep Disc Golf Day on Oct 25th. 

Tournaments / Re: Fox Hill Juniors Tournament oct18
« on: September 29, 2014, 04:15:19 pm »
 I believe it came down to dates that worked best for Bill Lentz the TD(pe teacher at Fox Hill).  Looking back at the numbers from last year and other Junior events that i have run, there has not been much participation from disc golfers and their kids so scheduling it against other events is not a big deal.  Plus, i have found that by the fall, there aren't many days available. In addition,  if we got a lot of guys that played disc golf bringing out their kids, then i would understand.  But, it tends to be about 70-30 with 30% being disc golfers/club members/tourney players supporting these events.  Bad timing for sure, but Bill was able that weekend so that is that.  Most of the kids that have shown up to the four Juniors events that i have been part of, were kids that i had taught or Bill had taught at his school.

I wish there were more weekends in the Fall to chose from, but kids have sports that go late into the fall. So there is a short window of dates to choose from.  However, if you wait too long, then you could have really bad weather and parents do not want to get out  in the cold and play a game/chaperon  that many do not know much about.    So, there are several factors that play in to this besides if it fits best into  the club schedule. 

The flyer will be out soon. I am not helping  this year and Bill is likely doing the best he can.  Not everybody loves disc golf, has the passion, the knowledge, like many of us on this forum. 

Liberty, MO - Stocksdale Park / Re: Liberty - BRC League Night 9/29
« on: September 24, 2014, 01:22:46 pm »
The green plastic caps with a rope through the middle are the alt pins.  you are correct Bill. 

Liberty, MO - Stocksdale Park / Re: Liberty - BRC League Night 9/29
« on: September 24, 2014, 11:59:34 am »
some holes need to be left in the most visible position until the tee signs are in.  we need to be catering to the casual golfers and i like to use the "keep it simple" method.  if baskets are blind, then casuals may be turned off but walking around searching for baskes.   I would like to avoid that experience and continue to grow the sport.  i have run into may first timers that love the shorter tees and visible baskets.  keeping baskets visible is important for now.  if you are getting bored with the basket locations, play the golds, play the shorts to the gold :).  the course is not officially open.   

Baskets will get moved soon.  Please be patient.  Course did go in the ground in a year and half, which is pretty good when considering the woods clearing on  holes 2,3,4, 6,7,9,,12,13,15,16., plus the  seeding, ivy spraying, mound building, brush hogging etc. 

Young Park - Blue Springs / Re: Missing basket
« on: September 08, 2014, 04:01:03 pm »
Bill, change your subject in the original post to  "stolen basket" . 

Not missing, but stolen.  Wow, life must really suck for you to have to steal a basket. 

Young Park - Blue Springs / Re: Missing basket
« on: September 07, 2014, 06:13:46 pm »
I found that out today when i went to move the #5 basket.  I will call the park department tomorrow morning.  I believe it was stolen as well Bill.    So...we are looking for an orange powder coated Mach 5.  Please be on the look out for this type of basket.  Most folks do not buy the power coated orange so this basket should turn up at some point.    Plus, once it is found i will be able to identify the basket due to marking the basket it in an inconspicuous location that does not resemble anything like a mark.

Baskets moved today
6,7, 9, 12, 18

 With the added on number plate, the powder coating, the in ground anchor  the irrigation tube and cover, i am really hoping the cost of this all totals $500 so we can punish this individual with a felony.

Liberty, MO - Stocksdale Park / Re: Liberty, MO.
« on: September 05, 2014, 11:56:52 am »
Update from Nick at parks & rec:
Most long pads are back filled with gravel
All wooded areas mowed out
Spraying and reseeding are next on the list ( lots of spraying thus far and they have committed to knocking out the remaining ivy)
Kiosk arrived but posts to hang it on has  not been shipped yet
The open areas continue to be mowed regularly and players will not have to worry about tall grass unless you go way off course

If you see the park guys working say hello.  They are making the course a priority and showing it major love.  It is nice having several allies in the parks department.   

William Yates Elementary / Oct 4th Work Day
« on: August 26, 2014, 01:35:00 pm »
Oct 4th is a work day at Yates getting it ready for Indep Disc Golf Day/Event.  Epic church will be representing with a large group.  They play regularly out there and have adopted that school as a community partner.

It looks really rough out there and we want to get it looking nice for the Indep Disc Golf Day/Event

Things to do:
Trim up trees
Remove honey suckle
repaint the "next hole" marker stones
Add chains to the baskets
(hopefully be adding nickels to the baskets) Eric Minton
Possible tee sign work if Eagle scout project is lined out.

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