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General Banter / Re: Liberty, MO.
« on: June 13, 2013, 12:12:05 PM »
I would look more to the end of the summer or early fall.  parks and rec got nailed with all the rain and have been playing catch up since.  they started the season off under staffed.  There has been work done by golfers recently. Ted Keith has been a force and can be contacted for future of the volunteer work. He also has a list of things that could be done if you are interested in helping rockiesfan43ver.

Here was a list that was sent to Chris Wilson of parks and rec if you are looking for things to do. Please do not remove any trees that are on the fairways even if marked.  Any help is greatly appreciated.  It would be nice for the disc golfers to make their presence felt, just like ERTA has done.  Those guys put in close to 6 miles of  single track with out the help of the park staff.   Any and all help from the disc golf community demonstrates our commitment to the park  is proves that we are a valued partner, just like ERTA. 

#2 Walking path from #2 tee to basket over dam needs to be cleaned all the way out opening up into hole #3 edge of fairway

#3  Lots of ivy. Near the tee looking at towards the  basket, there is a tree with  Green Tape that needs to be cut out. Everything on outside edge, outside the tree gap players throw thru needs to be cleaned out, but do not cut out areas that would allow players to use another gap besides one given.  Plus a spot near neighbors fence will need to be brushogged out so machines can get down to form #3's tee pad.  This hole will also need some sort of stair, rocks, steps to get to the tee after playing hole 2.  Or you can clean behind the dam and make a walking path from #2 to #3 tee.

#4  Around the tee needs to be cleaned up.  Around the trees near gully needs extra brush hog work since discs will be flying all around the tree gully area.

#5  lots of ivy under power lines. 

#6 clean up hole, move brush to the side, cut out new growth resprouting  that was cut out this spring.

#7  good 

#8 good

#9 lots of ivy along both sides of hole and just everywhere. 

#10 ivy along tree stand on right. 

#11 Ivy outside the trees. I never cut out the walking path to get to the rubble that was dropped and left.

#12 ivy in front of teepad  and located throughout the hole. 

#13 lots of ivy on outside of woods, some inside woods.  Lots of debris that needs to be mulched.  we cleaned the hole up so mowers could get in and mow.  there could also be some dirt work done or else it will be difficult to mow middle of fairway.

#14 Tee pad needs to brush hogged.

#15   cut out and remove all the stumps i cut out during the rough cut.  gather brush .  i have spent a lot of time on 15 and 6.  Path  needs to be cleaned to 16  and bridge. 

#16 ivy in wood line along fields/dam.  i would also like to brush hog everything up to the conservation tree line.  that is a lot more brush hogging but it will be necessary.  We also talked about planting trees.

#17 cleaning up dropped debris.  ivy treatment

#18 looks good.  planting a tree.

I wish all this energy on the discussion board could go into more positive things like workdays or just doing some  work while playing a round like picking up some trash or bringing out a trimmer and making the course look nicer.  We got our busy time of year upon us and work needs to be done and instead of banging out debates on the forum, how about working at your course?

 I wish i could do more and help with KCWO/local EJC courses/Liberty, but my wife is  having a baby soon and disc golf is really low on my list.   I hope that the newer players continue to come out and give back to the courses.   The hard core givers can only give so much and at some point we have to push to get new folks involved.  We all want the same thing and not everyone has to be "friends", but we should work on being "friendly". 

 As far as giving back, I would like to thank Ted Keith for killing himself out at Liberty and doing so much out there.  How can you make disc better in KC?  All over KC folks step up and make things happen.  No matter how big or small or time commitment is, what can you do instead of wasting time on this forum?  Or wasting the time of your employer ;D?

Legacy Park - Lee's Summit / Re: Grass Problem
« on: May 30, 2013, 12:45:03 PM »
i think that beer bottles and cans often are left out there by underage drinkers.  Kids find some beverages and have no place to drink them.  Disc golf courses usually are easily accessible  and have some good places to hide. 

Tournaments / Re: 3rd Annual Hitting the Chains for BACA June 1st
« on: May 24, 2013, 03:30:36 PM »
Minton will be excited to hear that.

General Banter / Re: Liberty, MO.
« on: May 15, 2013, 12:51:01 PM »
most of the rough cutting is complete.  some holes have been giving the final cut.  Removal of debris, stumps, and brush is left on 1/4 of the holes. Ivy still needs to be treated on holes in the woods  or that play near woods.  Originally they were shooting for June 1st.  However,  the course changed dramatically from original route and the new course has demanded much unanticipated work.  And as we know, most park dept are thin so they are working hard at balancing current projects and obligations, along with dedicating time and machinery to this project.

  Course will open this summer.  With the help and direction of so many golfers, it  should be fun for all types of golfers and has woods, wind, and water.  we are pushing for alternate pads to even shorten things up for the casuals and families of Liberty. 


General Banter / Disc Golf on Real World
« on: May 12, 2013, 09:24:33 AM »
My wife just told me about a clip of disc golf on the Real World in Portland  It was good video, better than most on tv shows where they just talk about playing disc.  Look closely at one of the discs they are throwing.  It aired on May 8th.

General Banter / Re: Liberty work days at Stocksdale Park
« on: May 10, 2013, 04:40:37 PM »
I will be out at Liberty tomorrow at 9am. Plenty of things can be done.  No tools are necessary.   I have two back pack sprayers and we can spray areas for ivy, cut and drag and clean up holes etc. 

call me if you are out make it out.

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General Banter / Re: Liberty work days at Stocksdale Park
« on: April 28, 2013, 07:11:17 PM »
Big thanks to Ian Stone and Todd Hall.  Much work was done today and will give the parks dept a better idea where to run the brush hog.  Can't thank these guys enough.

General Banter / Re: Liberty work days at Stocksdale Park
« on: April 27, 2013, 08:41:42 AM »
Work day this Sunday, 10 am at Stocksdale Park.   Plenty of work that anyone with or without tools can do. 

General Banter / Re: Friday Traveling League 4/26/2013 We're back
« on: April 25, 2013, 04:04:39 PM »
honestly, my feelings aren't hurt.  i hope that i am more thick skinned than that.    i appreciate that you do not drink beer out there.  thank you for being responsible and i hope other players that enjoy beer and liquor as much as i do, follow the same rules.  The course has many limitations and can only improve.  the baskets do need inner chains as well.  we are working on those things.  not super important for  a rec course, but Bill wants the course to be something that golfers can be proud of. 

i tend to play courses for fun and worry less about score now as well after some cartilage wearing issues. 

General Banter / Re: Friday Traveling League 4/26/2013 We're back
« on: April 25, 2013, 12:54:22 PM »
Fox Hill has some weak holes and the pads are not the best.  Friday traveling league would not be allowed to play out there during the day due to school hours.  Getting 25k in donations to put in a course is not the easiest thing.  Maybe one day we will have some better tee pads. There will be an asphalt running trail through those woods so those pads could be updated in near future.   Do not put anything past Bill Lentz, the pe teacher at Fox Hill.  He is the man.  It is guys like him that buy into  building beginner courses that will make this sport grow.    Bill does not even play disc golf.  How crazy is that?  Here is a guy that is killing himself out there to give the community something fun to play.  He is not a member of the club, not a member of the PDGA, just a regular guy that wants to give kids an alternative fitness activity.  Hundreds of back breaking hours to make the community better.  That is an example of  a human with such a  powerful, selfless, giving spirit.  Bill and Aric Anderson are working super hard at getting a course at Staley HS.  This is how the sport and the spirit of the sport grows... by building beginner weak courses. 

General Banter / Re: Liberty work days at Stocksdale Park
« on: April 25, 2013, 12:43:28 PM »
that is great to know.  i have some areas that i lined out for folks to cut the honeysuckle and pull it.  i was just going to have the person pour Tordon on the tip.  i was also thinking about an idea similar to yours this past week.  the extensive mtn bike and walking trails in this park have encountered these issues and they have to work the stump out in order to have nice dirt path.  i was thinking of getting my mavic super sharp and using that to get the stump to grade level.  Then put on tordon. And now i will try to add dirt over the stump. 

thanks for the tip. 

General Banter / Re: Liberty work days at Stocksdale Park
« on: April 25, 2013, 11:51:53 AM »
i will be out working tonight if anyone in the north land would like to join me.  i will be there by 5. 

Young Park - Blue Springs / Re: League 4/24
« on: April 24, 2013, 04:11:40 PM »
a bunch of baskets were moved thanks to Brandon and First Run Lake Jake.  Some areas have been roped off to encourage players to walk around certain parts of the course.  if you see any areas of rope torn down, it would be nice if someone could retie them, please and thanks. 

General Banter / Liberty work days at Stocksdale Park
« on: April 23, 2013, 01:35:28 PM »
First official work day will be this Sunday, April 28th at 10am at Stocksdale Park.  Bring your big bad self and if no tools, then that is fine.  I have plenty of things to use. 

I will also be heading up this Thursday, April 25th at 5:00 if the weather holds out.

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