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Leagues / 2015 Meandering Monday PDGA League - Both Sessions
« on: March 03, 2015, 04:21:46 pm »

First Session:

4/6 - Shawnee Mission Park.  Will try to start check ins at 5:15, will send people out as soon as cards can be filled.  Last card out will be about 5:30-5:40
4/13 Blue Valley KC, MO  Check-in 5:15.  Will try to start check ins at 5:15, will send people out as soon as cards can be filled.  Last card out will be about 5:30-5:40.  May have to play the middle distance inner course due to daylight – City of Fountains week

4/20 5:30pm Swope, KC, MO – Corporate Challenge week

4/27 5:30pm WyCo, Bonner Springs, KS – GBO week, WyCo is similar to Emporia courses

5/4 6pm Legacy Park, Lee’s Summit, MO

5/11 6pm Water Works, KC, MO

5/18 6pm Rosedale DU, KC, KS

5/25 - Memorial Day – no league

6/1 – 6pm To Be Determined.  E vs. W course or W. Young Blue Springs, MO

6/8 – 6pm Lake Shore, Pleasant Hill, MO

6/15 – 6pm KCWO course to be determined.  Either Swope Gold if playable, otherwise Rosedale Up Top.

All course coordinators get to play for free the week the league is on their course.

For the 10-week PDGA League, the fee structure will be:
KCFDC Members
With Ace Fund - $6
Without Ace Fund - $5

Non-KCFDC Members
With Ace fund - $7
Without Ace fund - $6

Divisions offered:
The reporting of divisions will differ for the PDGA and KCFDC.  For the payout portion (KCFDC), it will be based on standard KC league formats.  In order to have a division, 3 people or more need to be available for the least restrictive denominator per Pro or Am division

For example –
1-5 Open players – all play Open.
6+ Open players, can split into various divisions (Open, Pro Masters, Pro Women, Pro Grand Masters, etc.)

1-5 Am players – All play Advanced
6+ Am players – Can be split into various divisions (Advanced, Advanced Women, Intermediate, Rec, etc.)

Payouts will be the approved KCFDC format as shown here:

Reporting to the PDGA:
As far as reporting to the PDGA there are two benefits: first to get a rating, second to get point used for Pro and Am Worlds.  It benefits everyone, top and bottom, to be placed in the same grouping for points if the highest categories are used.  Therefore, for the PDGA reporting it will be simply Open and Advanced regardless of gender or age.

Best place to find results:

Tournaments / 27th Memorial Championship presented by Discraft
« on: February 26, 2015, 11:00:28 am »
Anybody know Jason (Jack) Hebenheimer?  He lives in Jefferson City, MO.  My very first PDGA tournament I played in, Kan-U-Wyco in 2012 I was on his card.  I think he is now 16 or 17.

Anywho - he's tied for first place in Advanced with 186 players.  Pretty cool.

Two 1100+ *tentatively* rated rounds yesterday in Open:

Very first PDGA sanctioned tournament at Longview.

Go here for details:


Registration and current player listing is open at:

Facebook event page:

$50 Open
$40 Masters, Grandmasters, Women - Pro
$35 Advanced, Adv. Masters, Adv. Grandmaster
$30 Intermediate / Intermediate women
$22 Recreational / Rec. women
$20 Juniors 19 and under
$15 Juniors 16 and under
$10 Non-PDGA fee*

*This is a PDGA Sanctioned C-tier.  All players are able to play.  If you are not a *current* PDGA member, a $10 fee will apply.

All players will receive a TriLion golf towel.
All amateur players will receive choice of Innova disc and Innova Mini Driver
All amateur players that pre-register by April 9 will receive a bonus pack item - a SS Innova logo T-shirt.

Hog Holler Saloon is offering a $8 lunch special.  Includes pulled pork sandwich, baked beans, potato salad and drink.  Drink is good for refillable pop (during lunch) or a single beer.

Player check in is at Hog Holler Saloon across the street from 8:00 - 8:45 -required.
Player's meeting at 9am  - required.

$5 Latitude 64 DG Luxury Bag Ace Fund:

Instead of cash payout for the ace fund, a Lat64 Luxury Bag will be given. If no ace is hit, a CTP will be done after 2nd rounnd to determine winner.  Only those that pay into the fund will be eligible.  If more than 1 ace, then only those players that hit an ace will do the CTP. When 51 players opt for Fund, a 2nd bag will be given. 

Longview - Perry Lake - Ozawkie, KS / Work day 2/7/15
« on: February 06, 2015, 12:35:08 pm »
Topeka DG are having a workday Saturday 2/7 from 9-3 if interested.  I'll be there.

General Banter / MVP? MVP! or even Axiom!
« on: February 02, 2015, 02:58:57 pm »
Any MVP or Axiom throwers out there?  What are your favorite molds?

Tournaments / Jackson Park Open, Atchison, KS, March 7, 2015
« on: February 02, 2015, 01:44:28 pm »
Jackson Park Open, Atchison, KS, March 7, 2015


General Banter / DD Baskets
« on: December 04, 2014, 02:31:57 pm »

And the machine keeps rolling.

Seriously, DD is like the Borg with personality.  They will assimiliate everything and anything.

I'm not jabbing - it's just kind of a weird awesome thing going on.

Clothing - check
Discs - check
Bags - check
Shoes - check
Shorts - check
Coolers - check
Baskets - check

Beer - WHAT!  No Dynamic Discs beer yet? 

OMG - I got to get on this and make some DD beer.

General Banter / Tournament supplies
« on: November 21, 2014, 04:53:50 pm »
Can anyone provide a file or link for the player cards used in the tri-fold leader boards?

General Banter / Cleaning out pole holes.
« on: November 21, 2014, 03:59:08 pm »

OK, so the Centennial course has several pin placements that are filled in with dirt, pea gravel, etc not making them able to be used.  Any suggestions on how to clean them out?  It seems as though one would need a relatively close to diameter auger to clean them.

General Banter / New match play format suggestion.
« on: November 12, 2014, 09:10:26 am »

From Steve Dodge, Vibram:

I love match play. It is, as far as I know, the way golf was intended when it was first created. A series of 18 head to head challenges. Unfortunately, to hold a tournament with a lot of players, stroke play became the tournament format of choice. With some noodling and some creative sessions with friends, here is a format that I believe closely echoes the original intent of golf while allowing a tournament of 64 players, all played in one day - which is how we like our tourneys up here in New England.

World Cup Format:
On each hole, for each person in your group that you score better than, you get a point. In each round, you are only competing against the other players on your card.

Round 1: 16 Foursomes
Note: I like the groups to be created randomly, but adventurous TDs can try to rank all the players and bracket them (caution: this is a great way to create dissension and bickering ;-)

Round 2: Semifinals
Four Lead Foursomes
Four 2nd Place Foursomes
Four 3rd Place Foursomes
Four 4th Place Foursomes

Round 3: Finals
The winners of each of the four lead foursomes play a final Quasi-Match Play round.

Order of top 24 players, who get a payout.
1st-4th: Order of finish in Round 3 Finals
5th-8th: Finished in 2nd place from one of the four lead foursomes in Rd2
9th-12th: Won one of the 2nd Place Foursomes in Rd2
13th-24th: 3rd place in lead foursome, 2nd place in 2nd foursome, 1st place in 3rd foursome

Tournaments / Tournaments outside of KC/MO area.
« on: October 21, 2014, 04:33:04 pm »
Wow.  I got a wake up call this weekend playing a tournament outside of our area.

My in-laws are originally from Sioux City, IA and moved to Yankton, SD a few years ago.  This past weekend, Every Day Disc Golf out of St. Paul, MN was putting on two C-Tiers in Sioux Falls, SD so I thought it would be a good experience going somewhere else for some tournament action and pick up two tournaments.

Cost was $30 + $5 handling fee for Rec. per tournament.
There wasn't enough Rec players so I moved up to Intermediate.
No players pack.
No product available until after the tournament was over.
Central sign up area for those that didn't pre-register was a guy sitting in his car.  No table, no tent, no shelter.

Figuring up payouts afterwards, payouts were less than 80% of entry fees.  PDGA mandated C-Tiers minimum payouts (players' packs, actual payouts, etc. combined) are to be 85% or more.  I guess it all depends on what you consider 'costs'.  Costs are supposed to be PDGA fees and green fees (i.e. club or city park fees) only when computing this 85%.

He did have 4 CTP's, 2 discs and 2 Trotter boxes (cardboard boxes specifically made to store discs.  they retail for over $15).

The guy was decent enough, but basically it ran as a very expensive 2-round league.  54 players.  I've played in leagues in KC that had more than 54 players.

I didn't bother with playing the 2nd day tournament and instead picked up my 16th state to play in - Minnesota.  I'm now up to 106 courses played.

I have a couple of points I'm making.

First: Unmet expectations is when people get mad or sad.  The tournament was not what I was expecting.  It kind of pissed me off which made up my mind to not play the second C-tier the next day.  I guess I should have had lower expectations.

Second: The reason why I have higher expectations is because of what we exeperience here in our KC/MO area.  DD, KCFDC, DGW, LSDiscs, really do put on fantastic tournaments.  Generally they are run very well with attentive TD's, great players packs and payouts both.

I think if this individual gave something of a players pack, it would draw more 875 and below players (whether they are rated or not) which would inturn create more product turn for him plus incrementally create more revenue to have more payout for those that do well.

In hindsight, the tournament was pretty decent.  The only reason why I didn't cash because my putts for 1st round were atrocious, even for me. 

If they don't say Players' Pack in the advertisement - don't expect one.  (Which for me will bring the ceiling down on how much I'm willing to spend for the tournament).

I guess it just depends on how you want tournaments to be run.  It would seem as though there are two options.  Everyone gets something with a (perceived) less payment for those at the top.  Or, only those at the top get a (perceived large) payout if you compete well. 

Personally, I think you can have the first option which will create the means to have the second option.

Having sponsors of any type will help as well, which these tournaments had none. 


Centennial Chain Crash presented by Grip Equipment

A PDGA C-Tier Sanctioned Tournament

2 rounds of 18 holes at Centennial Disc Golf Course, Lawrence, KS

Check in between 7am and 7:50 am
Players’ Meeting at 8am.  Tee off as soon as meeting is over.

Open - $42
Pro Masters / Grand Masters $32
Pro Women $32

Advanced $27
Intermediate $22
Amateur Women $22
Recreational (trophy only) $17

Juniors 16 and Under $12
(Juniors player pack limited to DX Roc or Yeti Pro Aviar and 1 non-alcoholic beverage.  PDGA membership not required.  Non-PDGA member fee would not apply)

Non-PDGA members add $10

Need at least 3 people to create division except for Women and Recreational divisions.

This is going to be cool:
$5 Grip Bag Ace Fund. 

Courtesy of Grip Equipment

Ace fund consists of 2 different Grip bags, the A14 and the C14 bag.  The bags will be given regardless of aces hit.  If only one ace is hit, they choose which bag.  If 2 or more aces are hit, than those people will have a CTP contest after the last round for the bags.  If no one hits an Ace, then all who have paid in to the Ace Grip Bag Fund will participate in a CTP for the bags.  Both bags will be given out through those that participate in the Ace Bag Fund

Up to $250 added cash to Pro Divisions. *$10 added per player up to $250.


Grip Equipment

TriLion Studios

Innova Champion Disc Golf

Sunflower Outdoor & Bike

Defiance Brewing Company

Tournaments / 2014 USDGC United States Disc Golf Championship
« on: October 02, 2014, 03:57:19 pm »
Kitz beat Nikko today by 3.

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