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Tournaments / Re: Thursday Throwdown at Swope, 10/6/16 PDGA C-tier
« on: October 11, 2016, 11:43:35 AM »
Forgot to provide an update.  Usually post on facebook. 

We had 31 people come out and play on a Thursday.  That's pretty awesome I think.  Will probably do it again.  Weather stayed away and turned out to be a pretty good day.

Final results are here:

Tournaments / Re: Thursday Throwdown at Swope, 10/6/16 PDGA C-tier
« on: October 03, 2016, 05:37:23 PM »
Bump to remind people, PDGA / KCFDC sanctioned 2-round tournament this Thursday at Swope Park.

This is not a flex start.  Two rounds, shotgun start.

Sign up on line (links above), or in person starting at 8:15 Am Thursday, 10/6

Tournaments / Re: Raymore Rumble Presented by INNOVA 10/1/16
« on: September 28, 2016, 11:32:44 AM »
Tournament Central and player check in will be at Hole 10. Use the north entrance on the west side to get into the back parking lots behind the baseball fields.

Leagues / Re: Winter Safari Saturday PDGA league
« on: September 27, 2016, 11:21:51 AM »
I suspect I would play 2-3x the whole 10 weeks.

Tournaments / Re: Thursday Throwdown at Swope, 10/6/16 PDGA C-tier
« on: September 27, 2016, 09:26:25 AM »
Got a nice mix of pre-registrations coming along.  You know you want to play a tournament on a Thursday.  Do it!


Tournaments / Re: Raymore Rumble Presented by INNOVA 10/1/16
« on: September 27, 2016, 09:20:36 AM »
Raymore Rumble week!

We have a good pre-registration list going at 42 players.  With the nice weather coming up this week, I would recommend you get signed up earlier then hoping to show up and get in.

Also, because we are using an A and B pool for different tee pads, while the tournament may not 'fill', your pool may be closed.

These divisions will use short pads:
FG1, MS1, FA2, MA3, FA3, MJ1, FJ1
Adv Grandmaster Women
Intermediate Women
Recreational Women
Adv Sr. Grandmaster Men
Recreational Men
All juniors

While the deadline for the bonus player pack has expired, all Ams will still get a player pack that includes:

A tournament stamped Innova disc and a choice of a t-shirt or sport sack.

 The other Innova tournament discs are:
 Champion Flat Top Firebird
 Champion Metal Flake Colossus
 Champion MF Aviar
 Champion MF Sidewinder
 Champion MF Tern

Tournaments / Thursday Throwdown at Swope, 10/6/16 PDGA C-tier
« on: September 19, 2016, 09:11:52 PM »

PDGA C-tier tournament - on a THURSDAY!

This is for those that have a non-traditional work schedule, or vacation time to burn.

Two rounds of 18 holes.  This is not a flex start, it is a normal 2 round shot gun start tournament.

Pre-registration (very much appreciated to make the morning go smooth) is at:

Day of registration and player check in is from 8:15 - 9am, with a player meeting as soon as we're ready.

Morning round, then lunch on your own, afternoon round, then payouts.

Costs and Payout Structure:

$22 Pro divisions.  $2 towards PDGA fees, $1 to KCFDC (from Maverick DG), $20 towards payout.
$22 Advanced divisions: $2 towards PDGA fees, $1 to KCFDC (from Maverick DG) $20 towards merchandise payout.  No player pack.
$22 Intermediate divisions: $2 towards PDGA fees, $1 to KCFDC (from Maverick DG) $10 merchandise player pack voucher, $10 towards merchandise payout.
$16 Recreational divisions: $1 towards PDGA fees, $1 to KCFDC and PDGA (from Maverick DG), $15 merchandise player pack voucher, no additional payout.

+$10 for non-current PDGA members.  By the way - If you register with the PDGA on October 1st or later, the membership will carry through until December 2017.  May as well become a member or renew your membership.

Ace Fund:
$2.  Pays out 100% cash if an ace is actually hit during play.  Otherwise, pays out 100% as merchandise credit after second round during CTP.


All rocks OB. All streets and beyond are OB. Normal course mandos in play.  Pretty standard stuff.
1. Short
2. Medium
3. Regular 3 pad to long across driveway. Will need to block parking lot. OK for a weekday. Drive way itself is a river.
4. Medium
5. Long pad to long left
6. Long
7. Back fence
8. Medium
9. Short
10. Medium
11. Medium
12. Back corner fence
13. Long pad to left cliff corner
14. Short
15. Short near tri-pod tree
16. Regular tee middle medium pin.
17. Short with mando
18. Long pad to short pin

Tournaments / Re: Raymore Rumble Presented by INNOVA 10/1/16
« on: September 18, 2016, 08:48:26 AM »
Today is last day to be able to choose the bonus player pack or to opt out of it all together.

General Banter / Re: 18 Months...Discuss
« on: September 13, 2016, 10:20:34 PM »

Dodge Unsanctions Disc Golf Pro Tour Championship

Break from PDGA will allow Bradley Williams, Paul McBeth to take part in the event


Disc Golf Pro Tour Director Steve Dodge announced tonight on the SmashboxxTV podcast and on the tour’s website that this weekend’s Pro Tour Championship in Vermont will not be PDGA-sanctioned.

Citing strained relations with the PDGA and Williams’ recent suspension, Dodge said “being a PDGA event is hurting the DGPT Tour Championship.”

“In good conscience, knowing that the goals of the DGPT are to build a professional Pro Tour throughout North America, we cannot continue to pretend to work together with the PDGA,” Dodge said. “The PDGA has consistently failed to communicate, put roadblocks in our way, refused to have discussions, and has suspended Pro Tour players without consulting the Pro Tour or the players.”

Since Williams is only suspended from PDGA-sanctioned events, he will be allowed to play this weekend. Paul McBeth, who recently announced that he would not be playing PDGA non-Major events in protest of the organization’s lack of transparency in disciplinary matters, has not confirmed his plans for the weekend.

Ultiworld Disc Golf will have more on this story as it develops.

General Banter / Re: 18 Months...Discuss
« on: September 13, 2016, 05:06:33 PM »
Definitely a point / counter-point to all of this.

I think a big component is if you think BW was improving or keeping on with his own modus operandi.  How you view that topic is how you probably think the suspension is fair or not.  I can see it both ways.

General Banter / Re: 18 Months...Discuss
« on: September 13, 2016, 09:21:22 AM »
Very good counterpoint here.  I suggest reading it.  Again, I don't agree with his 100% either, but good points were made.

General Banter / Re: 18 Months...Discuss
« on: September 12, 2016, 04:35:23 PM »
Posted by the PDGA:

I don't agree with it 100%, but I think it is a fair response. 

PDGA Disciplinary Process Statement

Recently, there have been questions raised in social media regarding the specifics of the PDGA Disciplinary Process. This process may not be well known, especially by some of the newer members. Now seems like a good opportunity to let our members review the system that has been in place since October 15, 2009. While no member wants to be personally involved in this part of the sport, unfortunately, there sometimes are circumstances that require oversight and intervention.

The disciplinary process begins with a written complaint from a PDGA member or from the Tournament Director report when there is a disqualification involved.  The chairperson of the Disciplinary Committee decides if the complaint is warranted and presents it to the committee. During this process, the chairperson attempts to procure written statements and initiate phone conversations with all parties involved.  The statements/findings are presented to the committee for review and discussion. All infractions, past and present, are taken into consideration. Infractions incurred while under probation and multiple infractions can typically result in a combination of suspension periods. After discussion of all relevant considerations, a choice of disciplinary actions is presented for a vote in the form of a poll.  Each committee member then votes on an action that he/she feel are the most appropriate match with the infraction or infractions. Those decisions, of course, are informed by the collective experience of the committee and the evolving history of the committee’s findings.

The Disciplinary committee next sends its recommendation to the President of the Board of Directors.  The President then reviews all of the information provided and either decides to accept the recommendation or to request additional consideration.  The recommendation is also discussed with the Executive Board of Directors and it is either accepted or modified by vote of the Executive Board.  A letter is then constructed and sent to the Executive Director of the PDGA who both emails and mails a certified letter to the members involved. The resulting disciplinary action goes into effect the day of the email/postmark.

A more detailed form of our disciplinary process can be found at

The member is allowed to appeal as written in our policy. PDGA does not divulge specific details of the findings until such time as the member has exhausted all of his/her appeal rights. Such public discussion is necessarily limited to protect the privacy rights of the individuals involved. 

These concerns are both legal and ethical. The posting of such information could easily jeopardize the interests of a member if it came to the attention of a potential employer or other interested party. PDGA would only divulge such information if the member involved were to provide a signed letter granting that permission.

PDGA is, of course, a non-profit organization.  Our sport is an emerging one.  As such, we have to work consistently to maintain a positive and professional image.  We do, of course, provide a Competition/Rule book and have all of our disciplinary processes posted on our website.  We count on our members to help each other follow the rules and we hope that members who have questions will feel free to contact us directly.  Please remember that we are all disc golfers and we do care. Our policies have been developed by members and are in place to help us keep our members safe and to provide a fair and consistent process.

In summary, this is a challenging job and we are volunteers. The disciplinary committee is always interested in hearing from members who are willing to serve in some capacity as some part of this difficult, but essential part of sustaining our sport.

Rebecca Duffy
 PDGA Board President
 Speaking for the PDGA Board of Directors and Disciplinary Committee 

General Banter / Re: 18 Months...Discuss
« on: September 11, 2016, 01:00:18 PM »

Brad Williams' side of it.

Again, I'm not defending BW. I don't care for him from the accounts I've read, but I don't hate him either.

However, I do believe 18 months is too long and that there should be more transparency in the event, the investigation, and how the punishment was determined.

Tournaments / Re: Roc Vs Buzzz, Sept 18th 2016 - Swope Park
« on: September 10, 2016, 09:53:53 PM »
When did a Buzzz GT come out?  How does it fly/compare in the Buzzz world?

In the link that ekolk posted, look at the bottom right meme.

Discraft Buzzz-GT 02/21/08

I have only seen one person to ever use it in an actual round.

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