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The weather sure isn't cooperating this morning. I'm torn between postponing the tournament and going ahead with it. I feel compelled to go forward because I know there will be some that will show up without having read this post. There is no way to be able to get ahold of all 74 players in time and I would feel very bad to not have the tournament knowing some made it out expecting it to happen. From last night's perspective, it seem like the freezing rain would stop in time for us to play.

PLEASE use your best judgement on whether you should come or not. If you decide to not come, I will mail you your disc.

I'm sure having the tournament or not having the tournament will leave some players disappointed and mad. I am sorry for that. Please be safe, and if the road conditions of where you are at are bad, please stay home

OK, I was out at the course today. The tee pads are not icy, but some were quite muddy. I shoveled mud off of 4 and 7. I was actually kind of surprised on how it was sprinkling ice, it was more playable than I thought it would be.

FINAL Hole Set Up
1. Long right
2. Short right - MOVED from Long
3. Long
4. Short
5. Long middle by bushes
6. Short
7. Middle before creek - MOVED from Long
8. Right
9. Long left by light pole
10. Middle top
11. Left
12. Left
13. Short before creek
14. Short right
15. Middle
16. Short right
17. Short (wanted middle but it was full of mud) - MOVED from Long.
18. Middle - slope

Picked up the Yankee Tank beers.  We will have Oktoberfest, Cloud 9 IPA and their Pilsner.

Also picked up supplies to make hot chocolate after the rounds.

Check in from 7:15 - 8.  Meeting at 8 ish. 


I'll be out there Friday to reset the pins to this list just below. Last year, the local players moved quite a bit of them during the break. I'm guessing that will probably not happen this year as some of them did not get in before it sold out, and with the weather forecast, moving pins probably won't be on the top of the list.

*Tentative* Course settings.
 1 - Long right,
 2 - long behind tree
 3 - long
 4, long left
 5 - Long center near trees
 6 - short
 7 - long
 8 - long right
 9 - near light pole
 10 - somewhere on top plateu
 11 - left
 12 - left
 13 - short (to help congestion)
 14 - long left
 15 - long if pin is working, otherwise, medium. Long pin gets filled in with mud when it rains.
 16 right near sidewalk
 17 middle
 18 slope or bushes.

Tournaments / Re: Kansas City Wide Open 2016 split?
« on: November 25, 2015, 12:45:35 PM »
I understand that in this day in age we want information and we want it now. If you could just allow the pieces to fall into place, we will surely get that information out asap. Thanks for your understanding.

Sorry to push the issue.  It isn't just for me.  The decision of this affects others.  Namely when I schedule a tournament in Atchison which the city is asking me to schedule now.  It won't do either of us any good if I pick a date only to have the KCFDC want that date also.

Thanks for your understanding.

Tournaments / Kansas City Wide Open 2016 split?
« on: November 25, 2015, 10:03:20 AM »
Could I please get some clarrification whether the KCWO 2016 will be split or not?  I thought I read that it was, then it wasn't, but am not sure.  If it is going to be split, when will the second installment be?  Thanks.

General Banter / Re: Grading Cards
« on: November 23, 2015, 10:57:35 AM »
It's surprising how often it happens.

Since 11/2014 I have ran 12 events not counting the 7 player one rounder and the 9 player glow event.  Only one time out of 12 had I not had an error.  Every other event has had at least one error per tournament.  Some of those tournaments had only a dozen cards on 18 holes with typical Par 54 and there was still an error.  I even had an error first round, did an announcement before second round about double checking your score (back when I used to do a short meeting prior to second round which I don't do anymore) and still had someone turn in an error.

I'm also not immune to errrors as  TD.  I counted a card wrong, double checked it, stroked the player, only to have the player show me my error.

On Saturday we had one error (out of 4-5), I had someone else double check it, and also confirmed it was wrong.  The player asked me about it on Sunday.  I took pictures of the card, he double checked it and demonstrated to me that I ( and the second counter) was wrong.  I corrected his score, apologized profusely, and we worked out a details of what it cost him reward wise.

Mistakes happen.  Saturday was particularly rough counting cards with the 27 holes and the 7s, 8s, and 9s on some holes.

Currently there are 11 on waitlist. I rearranged the order so there is one list and it is based on time of registration / notices. I'm capping waitlist at 12.
WL# Player name PDGA# Division
1 Harold Berciunas - MG1
2 Cody Freeman - MA2
3 Blake Mitchell - MA2
4 Troy Mitchell - MA2
5 robert uitts 59715 MA1
6 Bob Ward - MPG/MPO
7 Robert Adams 54691 MPO
8 Sean Land 70842 MA2
9 Tom Thompson 24927
10 Steve Dresser - MPO
11 paul beard 67009 MM1

I'm working on the TD report. I thought this was interesting. The black and blue numbers are what the PDGA recommended for payout for this tournament. The green Manual Adj column is what I actually paid with the Red being the places paid out.  Total Pro purse paid out was $400.

I'm trying to show, that for better or for worse, even though Maverick DG tournaments generally are a C-Tier for Pro events, I do pay a bit higher than recommended for C-tiers, and I do pay a bit deeper than recommended. Only as information on how I do things.  Because of the size of operation of Maverick DG, added cash is not normal, but payouts are above what is recommended for C-tiers.


Wow! We had 73 players start AND complete the Big Blue Monster! Crazy! There were a few hiccups with the event that I learned from, but overall I think it went fairly well.

Here are the results:

Unclaimed Pro Payouts:
Scott Reek - $21 cash

Unclaimed Am Payouts:
Bill Larrabee - $48
Brandon Forbes - $38
Dan Meyers - $33
Thomas Johns - $26
Anthony Birchfield - $10

Am merchandise credit expires 12/31/15.

Results are being delayed until I can get a copy of the TD Report for Ratings Based tournaments. I'm asking different people that I think may have a report copy, but it may be Monday until I get it.

Sorry for the delay.

Tournament is full.  You can still sign up on waitlist by prepaying at  If you don't get in I will refund your money except the $1.34 (or so) that goes to dgcene's processing fees.  *Probably* will make the cut off for wait list Friday afternoon / evening so you know if you are in or not and don't show up and not get in.

I agree with Steve.  7 is super long down hill through the bottleneck and up the hill to the left.  Dgcr lists the long placement at 744 feet but I think it's probably 800 +.


is there a way to check if i paid the $5 for the ace/ctp? i cant remember if i did or not, but if i didn't, is there a chance to still pay for it the day of the tournament or something?

Kevin, you paid it.

19 spots left. 

The whole time Doug Keeler and I have talked about having this set up to the absolute longest it will go.  To the tippy tips.  I trust him that has been done.  The only hole I'm just a little bit iffy on would be Hole 7.  There was talk about finishing the Black/Red placement and I thought I read that it was done, but I can't find the reference now.  So I'm not 101% sure.  More like maybe 89% sure it was done.

It's going to be a rough day.  To all players, I would highly recommend you come prepared with warm clothes, hand warmers, caps, etc.  If need to, park your car somewhere strategic to pick up or drop off clothing and food.  This will be an iron man single round.


Grip Equipment bags are on their way! At least two bags will be given away after the tournament as the Ace / CTP Fund. One will be your choice of a Paul McBeth SE or the AX15 - Camo. The other will be a C14 - black. All bags come with a lifetime warranty registration card.

How do you win one of these awesome bags? Pay the $5 Ace fund during registration or the morning of during check in. If one person gets an Ace, they choose their bag and we do a modified CTP game after second round for the second bag. If two people get an Ace, those two people get a bag. If three or more people get an Ace, those players will do a CTP game after second round. The CTP is a modified CTP in that there is a hierarchy of hits or misses.

Generally the line is 100-150 feet.
 An Ace trumps
 A Chain Out which trumps
 Hitting top band or basket which trumps
 Hitting the pole.
 If nobody hits metal, then it is actual CTP.

The person that hits chains but spits out 20' is higher than someone who slides up to within 1 foot of the pole.

So...are you an aggressive player and go for it, and possible miss all, or do you play safe and slide up to the pole?

As of this post, only 23 total spots are open, 18 pro spots are open.


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