« on: July 17, 2014, 09:18:28 am »
I have a question for anyone who has ran a tournament or set one up. Why do holes have to be added and the course changed around. Waterworks is a well know course and a place people want to visit to play. Then they get here and it is a whole different layout. I understand for pros and open players, but this is for an amateur championship.
I'm with you Joe. I get tired of hearing "tournament experience" and "challenge yourself". Not calling anyone out but I've heard these things in disc golf for a while now. Sure everyone want to play their best in a tourney but a majority of ams will not compete at pro level. I do sometimes wish tournaments would leave it easy and let's see who can beat it down the hardest. How bout input from ams not pros on what people like. Just sayin. I guess we will see how everyone shoots. Most disc golfer are gracious and appreciate the work it takes to put on an event so i prolly sound like a dbag for the post. I think Scott runs good tourneys and DD usually lays good playa packs so even if you do get punked by a course you can have something to take home to help forget about a bad score. Maybe I'll run the "Paris of the plains" rec open next year
Well at first I wasn't busting Joe's nuts. JeffO - now I'm busting your nuts.
How bout input from ams not pros on what people like. Just sayin.
Am Player Comment #1:
Rob Martin, PDGA # 51540, Rated 843. Played 20 PDGA Sanctioned tournament so far. 2 of which were Majors, 2 A-Tiers.
I think the intention for the MAC is to give Ams the experience of playing in a larger tournament without paying a $100 entry fee. Tee times for instance are never utilized for a C or B tier. Sometimes A, but not B or C.
With larger tournies, such as GBO, Shunga Nunga, etc., tightening up the fairways and extending them is part of the tournament experience. Admittedly, I tend to shoot below my rating on longer holes, mandos, OB rope, etc. However, I enjoy them more when they are utilized in a tournament. If I want to play the normal course, I go to league or have a casual but serious round with my friends. For tournaments, I personally want the difficulty kicked up a notch.
Am Player Comment #2:
Marc Johnson, PDGA # 64386, Currently rated 622
I agree with some of the comments here. Where as I don't personally have the tournament experience, I can get as much experience playing the same course over and over but not gain 'that' much knowledge of 'how to play'. Just in preparation for the MAC, I've started playing Rosedale and Water Works on an alternating schedule every week. Yet, I'm quickly learning it doesn't really matter with the regular course set ups, a tournament NEEDS to change the regular layouts. The whole point of playing disc golf, is to have fun, get better, and compete against your own play, as well as others.(Marc, this is not a slight on you).
I, for one, am excited to play new courses and set ups. I believe that's where the true reward is in playing tournaments.
Just my thoughts...
JeffO - How much more Amateur do you want? A 843 rated player and a 622 rated player saying they want tougher layouts for tournaments.
Not all tournaments are tough layouts. Rosedale Open this year was pretty tame. Muddy Mo last year was pretty tame. Both those 2 tournaments included Rosedale (tame) and Water Works (tame).
This tournament, that includes Rosedale and Water Works is not tame. If every tournament was tame, 1. How are you going to get better, and 2. (more importantly) how freakin' boring is that?
Come on guys, pony up to the challenge. If this isn't your thing, there are other tournaments to play. This one is about kicking up the tournament experience a few notches.