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Leagues / Re: RESULTS: Spring PDGA League format poll
« on: March 13, 2014, 04:25:33 PM »
I meant to include this -

Looking over the Balance Sheet and Income Statements last night I noticed league income.  The highest was either WW or Rosedale, I don't recall which, but they were over $1400 for the year.

Most were in the $500-$900 range.

WyCo was last, 10th place, at $181 if I remember correctly.  Even Cliff league brought in approximately 2x as much.

Changing WyCo league to Wednesday could be the catalyst to revitalize the league and course. 

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WYCO / Re: 2014 WYCO League information
« on: March 13, 2014, 04:08:27 PM »
PDGA leagues come in various formats.  The format for this league will be the same as normal singles KCFDC leagues. 

Similiarities include:

1. Singles format.
2. Same divisions for payouts.  It takes 3 to make a payout division.
3. Beer is still ok during league. (As opposed during a sanctioned PDGA tournament)
4. Pros get actual cash.  Ams get KC Kash.
5. Payout schedule is the approved KCFDC schedule found here:

http://kcfdc.org/forum/index.php?topic=9359.0

The differences are:

1. It costs $1 more.  Half of this dollar goes to the PDGA, the other half goes to me to cover my upfront registration fee.  If there is a significant amount left over, I have some ideas on how we can use it including, free beer at the end of the season / league / whatever, grill some burgers, have a bonus payout, prizes for those that came the most, register another 10-week session.  These are just ideas and not promises.
2. The rounds are reported to the PDGA and are rated.  If at least 5 propogators played, we will see tentative ratings immediately. If less than 5 propogators play an evening, we won't see a rating until official ratings are updated.

PDGA League information can be found here:

http://www.pdga.com/leagues

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Leagues / Re: RESULTS: Spring PDGA League format poll
« on: March 13, 2014, 04:05:01 PM »
Mark - thanks for replying.  I'm sorry if you feel like the rug was pulled out from under you.  It's understandable that you're annoyed.

Before I got into a discussion, I simply wanted to know who I'm talking with.   My name is Rob Martin.

PDGA leagues come in various formats.  The format for this league will be the same as normal singles KCFDC leagues. 

Similiarities include:

1. Singles format.
2. Same divisions for payouts.  It takes 3 to make a payout division.
3. Pros get actual cash.  Ams get KC Kash.
4. Beer is still ok during league. (As opposed during a sanctioned PDGA tournament)
5. Payout schedule is the approved KCFDC schedule found here:

http://kcfdc.org/forum/index.php?topic=9359.0

The differences are:

1. It costs $1 more.  Half of this dollar goes to the PDGA, the other half goes to me to cover my upfront registration fee.  If there is a significant amount left over, I have some ideas on how we can use it including, free beer at the end of the season / league / whatever, grill some burgers, have a bonus payout, prizes for those that came the most, register another 10-week session.  These are just ideas and not promises.
3. The rounds are reported to the PDGA and are rated.  If at least 5 propogators played, we will see tentative ratings immediately. If less than 5 propogators play an evening, we won't see a rating until official ratings are updated.

That answers your first question.

#2 - Mark who?

#3.  Unfortunately not using the forum causes members to miss out on what is happening with our club.  I would recommend checking in here regularly.

#4 - Regarding problems running Friday night league.  The former league director, Timko, requested volunteers for WyCo.  His request was posted here since February 20:

http://kcfdc.org/forum/index.php?topic=10176.0

As my suggestion was approved by the KCFDC Board of Directors, I can only surmise that no one stepped forward to run the Friday night league.

#5 - The poll was for information purposes only and not a vote to all of the KCFDC members.  (By the way - just asking - are you a current paid KCFDC member?)  Up above I wrote:

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I would like to gather interest and opinion regarding a possible PDGA Spring league...

This is for informational purposes only.  The top choice may not necessarily be the one chosen (if any).  Besides what players would like, it would need to be approved by the BOD and would depend on the perceived impacts on other club leagues.



Please remember, this PDGA league and moving WyCo to Wednesday was approved by the Board of Directors, the governing body of our club, that were elected by the club's members. 

Without having someone stepping forward to run a WyCo Friday league, it is reasonable that the WyCo Friday would cease to exist beyond just a couple of people getting together for a casual round.  You can still do that any Friday as long as it doesn't conflict with the club's happenings (like Friday KCWO weekend).

As far as why the other choices were not chosen even though they may have gotten more votes:

Traveling leagues playing the same night and/or courses as established leagues could *possibly* have been disruptive to those leagues.  It was ill advised.  I included it in my poll because it was brought up.  Maybe someday in the future this could be a possibility, but not now as a KCFDC league for this spring.

Monday was not chosen because of the already successful Olathe league on the same side of town.  Same as Tuesday with SMP.  I couldn't run Tuesday anyway.

So it came down to Wednesday or Thursday.  Wednesday was chosen as the consensus was it would be less disruptive with Rosedale than with Water Works because of the perceived type of players that frequent those leauges.  As I was the one actually volunteering to run the league, I requested Wednesday as my first choice. 

I hope this did not sound snarky, that is not my intention.

Let me know if you have any more questions. 

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Leagues / Re: RESULTS: Spring PDGA League format poll
« on: March 13, 2014, 02:57:22 PM »
L.O.F.T. - What's your name?
Did you chime in when we were discussing this previously?
Who was willing to run WyCo on Friday's?  I'm not aware of anyone volunteering to run it this year.

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Water Works / Re: 2014-03-13 WaterWorks League
« on: March 13, 2014, 02:26:12 PM »
Ag schools.  They are actually quite similiar I think.

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Water Works / Re: 2014-03-13 WaterWorks League
« on: March 13, 2014, 01:59:49 PM »

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WYCO / Re: 2014 WYCO League information
« on: March 13, 2014, 01:42:37 PM »
Fee structure for non-PDGA dates (April 2, 9, June 25 and after (unless we decide to do another round) will be:

KCFDC Members
With Ace Fund - $5
Without Ace Fund - $4

Non-KCFDC Members
With Ace fund - $6
Without Ace fund - $5



For the 10-week PDGA League, the fee structure will be:

KCFDC Members
With Ace Fund - $6
Without Ace Fund - $5

Non-KCFDC Members
With Ace fund - $7
Without Ace fund - $6


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WYCO / Re: 2014 WYCO League information
« on: March 13, 2014, 01:36:55 PM »
Will a Moderator please 'Sticky' this thread until the season is over?

thanks,

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Leagues / Re: RESULTS: Spring PDGA League format poll
« on: March 13, 2014, 01:35:41 PM »
At the BOD meeting last night, the Spring PDGA League was discussed.  It was decided to move WyCo league to Wednesday nights.  This would have the least impact on other leagues and allow for continuity through the season.  I've volunteered to run WyCo league from April until the end of August at a minimum.  If things are still going well, I'll continue through the remainder of the season.

WyCo league will start the first Wednesday of April, April 2. 

The PDGA 10-week league will start April 16.  This delayed start is so we can capture the last Wednesday before the Wide Open in the league format, June 18th.  I'm hoping we get some pro's out there to test the course prior to the tournament.

I have an idea on how I would like to do pin placements.  For the first PDGA date, April 16, I would like to have all 18 holes set on their easiest pins.  Over the 10-week period, we would move 2-3 baskets making it progressively harder until June 18th is set for the Wyandotte KCWO Gold setting.

More information will be forthcoming in this thread:

http://kcfdc.org/forum/index.php?topic=10242.0

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WYCO / (OLD INFORMATION) 2014 WYCO League information
« on: March 13, 2014, 01:34:51 PM »
***********  Not to confuse anyone new on the WyCo league, the information in this thread is no longer valid.  It is being retained for historical purposes  ************



At the BOD meeting last night, the Spring PDGA League was discussed.  It was decided to move WyCo league to Wednesday nights.  This would have the least impact on other leagues and allow for continuity through the season.  I've volunteered to run WyCo league from April until the end of August at a minimum.  If things are still going well, I'll continue through the remainder of the season.

WyCo league will start the first Wednesday of April, April 2. 

The PDGA 10-week league will start April 16.  This delayed start is so we can capture the last Wednesday before the Wide Open in the league format, June 18th.  I'm hoping we get some pro's out there to test the course prior to the tournament.

I have an idea on how I would like to do pin placements.  For the first PDGA date, April 16, I would like to have all 18 holes set on their easiest pins.  Over the 10-week period, we would move 2-3 baskets making it progressively harder until June 18th is set for the Wyandotte KCWO Gold setting.

I'll post more information as we get closer.

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One of the more popular score card error - almost cost Will Schusterick $1,100 (1st place difference from 2nd place)

A non-score is the same as a wrong score when turned in.

http://rattlingchains.com/?p=2939

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Schusterick said he counted the card, as did everybody else in the group. He then took the card to hand in – but didn’t think about putting the final score down. The scores were right, but the 43 was not written down.

“It’s completely my fault,” he said. “I didn’t write it down. The scorecard added up right, I just didn’t physically write the 43. I handed it in. I didn’t even think about writing it down.

“I had no idea,” he said. “Then they showed me the scorecard. I didn’t say a word. I couldn’t believe it. I couldn’t argue it. It’s the rule.”

Just like that, his two-stroke victory was gone. Add to that the $3,700 top prize, which was also now in jeopardy.



I'm aware of at least two different rounds getting the +2 this past weekend because of a wrong score. 

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General Banter / Re: Find The Perfect Disc link
« on: March 11, 2014, 07:27:42 PM »
Sometimes I buy a disc because it has Slayer written on it.
Birdie button.

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General Banter / Re: Find The Perfect Disc link
« on: March 11, 2014, 04:28:52 PM »
Sometimes I buy a disc to see how it sinks.

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Tournaments / Re: 2014 Kan-U-Wyco PDGA B Tier
« on: March 10, 2014, 09:20:10 AM »
neither rain, rope, nor wind and snow shall stop my attempt to get a 3 on 13
Did anybody get a three on 13?

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Tournaments / Re: 2014 Kan-U-Wyco PDGA B Tier - March 8th & 9th
« on: March 10, 2014, 09:15:58 AM »
Perspective: World Record BH throw is a bit more than 45' past #13 LONG.   :o
that hole is totally eagle-able.

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