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WYCO / Re: 2014 WYCO League information
« on: March 17, 2014, 10:34:07 AM »
PDGA 10-week session has been sanctioned:

Cliff Drive / Re: 2014-The Extrodinary Leagues of the Northeast
« on: March 17, 2014, 10:20:52 AM »

You will need to be in attendance for at least 6 of the 10 weeks to qualify for the "series award" (TBD, but I will have something)  I would also encourage more participation for Am's in this series as well this upcoming year.

This year I also plan on giving away "league trophies" for those that make it to at least 13 leagues for some varying averages, attendance, and work day partners.  Some will be subjective scoring, and others will be based on stats.  No PDGA league this year will happen unless someone else wants to run it at Cliff, we will allow it (you would only pay $1 to that person extra) if someone steps up to do.  Otherwise we will be a KCFDC and Cliff Drive/Blue Valley ONLY league.

I'm still waiting for the 'TBD' series award from Spring 2013.  I was the only player to show up all 10 weeks.

Tournaments / Re: 32nd Annual Kansas City Wide Open - June 20-22, 2014
« on: March 16, 2014, 01:28:00 PM »
Will KCWO WyCo play the same layout as the Kan-U-Wyco did?  If not, what changes will be made?

Swope / Re: Bridge on hole 9
« on: March 15, 2014, 07:30:48 PM »
Birdie button

General Banter / Re: How you know you're a disc golf addict....
« on: March 14, 2014, 09:16:16 PM »
You know you are an addict when you play Angry Birds and right before the birds hit your left side of your torso jerks like you are snapping a disc.

WYCO / Re: Moving league to Wednesday?
« on: March 14, 2014, 11:14:46 AM »
All those signs put up around the city will be wrong if league nights are swapped around.

Valid concern.  A cost effective solution was discussed.

General Banter / Re: Wyco League Change?
« on: March 14, 2014, 11:09:55 AM »
Hello Pete,

The conversation is scattered all over the place.

Originally this conversation started with me asking if any current leagues were interested in sanctioning a PDGA league.  There was quite a bit of positive comments about having a PDGA league.  The two more popular suggestions were either a rotating league or moving WyCo to mid-week. That discussion is found here:

Some league directors have expressed interest, but specific action was not being fully communicated.

The conversation was kind of all over the place, so to bring some structure I posted a poll found here:

Both of which were found under the League section of the forum.

Meanwhile, Timko was asking for a WyCo league director found in the Wyco subsection, found here:

It would appear from Timko's request, that any Wyco Friday players were unwilling or unknowing about the need for a league director.  I offered to run the league, but not on Fridays.  Married with kids, I'm not interested in playing on a Friday night.

Thinking that the discussion was properly vetted online and those that had an opinion would have communicated their opinion, I brought it to the last BOD meeting. 

At the BOD Wednesday Wyco was the determined best choice based on the impacts on other leagues.

After it was announced, including here:

some individuals started to speak up stating they didn't know about it because the conversation was not listed under the Wyco course listings.  So, I put out one more thread to gain public comments under the Wyco course heading here:

Now, we have another comment thread (this one) under General - neither under the League or Wyco Course subforums.

Wow.  This is all over the place, isn't it?

My enthusiasm is quickly draining. 

Getting back to the *original* question - does any current league director want to run a PDGA league?  If so, for God's sake, please speak up.  If not, I'm willing to do so.  If I do it, it has to be Monday or Wednesday.  I cannot commit to any other night for 10 weeks straight.  I'm not interested in Cliff - I'd rather not get into it so don't ask.

Leagues / Re: RESULTS: Spring PDGA League format poll
« on: March 14, 2014, 09:19:31 AM »
While the numbers may be off a tad towards the bottom, and the numbers don't actually give a 100% picture of attendance because it would only show non-members playing and not members, it does give an indication to the attendance level overall.

Actually, I think members should have more of a say than non-members.  It is ran and supported by the club.  But without some data mining, it does help the discussion.

Leagues / Re: RESULTS: Spring PDGA League format poll
« on: March 14, 2014, 09:08:09 AM »
I may have read the Income Statement wrong.  I can either double check it when I have time this evening, or if someone has the correct numbers, please post them.

WYCO / Moving league to Wednesday?
« on: March 13, 2014, 10:30:31 PM »
Of the consistent Friday night leaguers (defined as going 50% or more of the time), what is your opinion of moving league to Wednesday?  Of the inconsistent leaguers (defined as going on average once per month/ 25% of the time), what is your opinion? Please list your participation level in your comment. Thanks.

Leagues / Re: RESULTS: Spring PDGA League format poll
« on: March 13, 2014, 10:28:32 PM »
Of the consistent Wyco leaguers on Fridays (consistent defined as 50% or more of the time) what is your opinion of moving league to Wednesday?

Leagues / Re: RESULTS: Spring PDGA League format poll
« on: March 13, 2014, 10:26:09 PM »
Of the leagues I've gone to (WW, Swope, Cliff 10 weeks straight, Rosedale Mondays and Wednesday) I was shocked WW didn't just blow all leagues out of the water.

Leagues / Re: RESULTS: Spring PDGA League format poll
« on: March 13, 2014, 06:18:09 PM »
Thanks for identifying yourself Mark.   I'll defer to the BOD about this because it's not really my call.

As info:

Ace Funds:
Rosedale - 213
WyCo - 322
Cliff - 430
WW - 449
Swope 519
Legacy 371
PC 437
Lakeside 177
SMP 409
Young 92

League Income:
SMP  $1489 (sorry Peter, referenced Rosie up above)
WW - $1425
Rosedale - 923
Swope 876
Legacy 376
Cliff 348
Lakeside 271
Young 255
PC 214
WyCo 181

My observations about league revenue.  While the numbers don't perfectly match attendance because this really only tracks non-members, I do think it shows trends.  WyCo is last.  It's even behind PC and Lakeside on an individual course basis which only ran 50% of the time because they alternated.

Admittedly, I've never played a WyCo league.  I'm not interested in Friday nights.  I would guess, based on the numbers above, my opinion is shared by a lot of other people.

Leagues / Re: RESULTS: Spring PDGA League format poll
« on: March 13, 2014, 04:25:33 PM »
I meant to include this -

Looking over the Balance Sheet and Income Statements last night I noticed league income.  The highest was either WW or Rosedale, I don't recall which, but they were over $1400 for the year.

Most were in the $500-$900 range.

WyCo was last, 10th place, at $181 if I remember correctly.  Even Cliff league brought in approximately 2x as much.

Changing WyCo league to Wednesday could be the catalyst to revitalize the league and course. 

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