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Tournaments / Re: 2013 Midwest Amateur Championships - August 3rd
« on: July 24, 2013, 05:12:13 PM »
132 of 144?  wowza

General Banter / Re: Wichita leagues?
« on: July 24, 2013, 02:38:21 PM »

Tournaments / Re: 2013 Discraft Ace Race
« on: July 22, 2013, 02:56:05 PM »
OK, that actually interests me.

General Banter / Re: Possibility of a new course at Clinton Lake
« on: July 22, 2013, 02:53:21 PM »
 As info, Bloomington Park is on the west side of Clinton Lake, west of Lawrence, KS.

Great area.  I go there every September for a festival.

Tournaments / Re: Open membership drive
« on: July 22, 2013, 07:50:43 AM »
website? more information please

Tournaments / Re: ROC vs BUZZ 2013
« on: July 18, 2013, 04:05:42 PM »
HEY!  One of my glow bag discs is a Z-MRV.  Love it.

General Banter / Re: The 'Official' ACE Thread!
« on: July 18, 2013, 10:03:28 AM »
ah, I misunderstood the EMS.
Hey - was there more then 2 aces at World's?  The 9-yr old on CC-18 and the Adv. Master on PP-17 were the two I knew about.

Tournaments / Re: ROC vs BUZZ 2013
« on: July 18, 2013, 10:00:59 AM »
I Suspect though that if there is a Wasp close by, the Drone of comments would cause such a Buzzz that people would re-evaluate the Truth and have a different Verdict on the reliabilty of the Roc and quite possibility send a Shockwave through the Core of their own Obex, resulting in much Pain.

General Banter / Re: The 'Official' ACE Thread!
« on: July 18, 2013, 09:48:09 AM »
I got an ace at Worlds on #7 at the EMS course in Emporia-~180' with a Champion USDGC X OUT Roc signed by 4297 X....witnessed by Barry (Paige Pierce's Dad) and his roommate, G$, Scott Ostenfeld, Danny Craig, Dan Zink....

What was the Ace payout?

Tournaments / Re: ROC vs BUZZ 2013
« on: July 17, 2013, 04:39:28 PM »
roc on

Cliff Drive / Re: Northeast League July 15th 2013
« on: July 17, 2013, 04:38:31 PM »
While it does have a significant impact, there are other factors as well.

The scores thrown by propagators each round are used to calculate the SSA rating for a specific course layout. A propagator is a current member whose rating is over 799 and is based on at least 8 rounds. As long as there are 5 propagators playing a course layout, ratings can be calculated. The average rating of all propagators will equal the average rating they get for the round – always. If the same course layout is used more than one round, the scores from multiple rounds will be used to determine an overall SSA, as long as the individual round SSAs come out close to each other, so everyone gets the same rating for the same score on the same course. If the SSAs are significantly different, likely due to varying wind conditions, the round ratings will be calculated separately. If a propagator shoots more than 60 points below their rating, their score will not be used in the SSA calculations.

Why is the SSA calculated for each round rather than using a fixed course rating like ball golf?
There’s no way to determine what an official SSA value would be for a course simply by taking measurements, looking at foliage, fairway widths and accounting for hazards. Not only that, it’s common for TDs to add temp holes, change tee or pin positions, or use new courses such that no SSA would be on file for that layout anyway. Using the scores of players with established ratings to produce an SSA has proven to be an accurate way to indicate how the course played that round. The only weakness of this system is that we require only 5 propagators to generate an SSA. Statisticians would prefer we use at least 30 propagators minimum for better accuracy. However, the PDGA has chosen 5 so that more players would get ratings. Some smaller divisions who play shorter layouts may not have very many propagators on a layout that round and would not get ratings in several events. The slightly higher inaccuracies produced with this system for individual rounds tend to even out over time. Plus, no round rating remains in an active player’s rating more than 12 months before it disappears.

It is an imperfect system, if nothing else we are considering fluctuating unknowns - weather and human performance - but it does seem pretty decent.

A good example of how it doesn't work, 2012 GBO, I had a 8am tee time at Muni.  The tee times 3-4 hours later had 10-15 mph winds stronger then during my round (20 vs. 35), yet my score was compared to them.  That round was my highest rated round for over one year while I know I improved.  That round was rated too high, later rounds were rated too low.  Over time though they do average out.

I do agree with is an imperfect system.  But it is a tool I do like to reference.

Cliff Drive / Re: Northeast League July 15th 2013
« on: July 17, 2013, 02:22:18 PM »
So if I play against Wysocki my rating will go up?

Tournaments / Re: 2013 AM Worlds in Emporia! - July 7-13, 2013
« on: July 06, 2013, 01:44:58 PM »
I was with Harold and they did seem to be on the stiff side, like they needed to be worn in.

General Banter / Re: Shawnee Mission Park - 7:00 am - July 4th, 2013
« on: July 03, 2013, 04:04:47 PM »
7 AM?  Dude, you're old.

General Banter / Re: *Insert Positive Forum Post Here*
« on: July 03, 2013, 04:02:40 PM »
Rob M always has cool rare discs for sale.

you slay me brother

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