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Good to know! Disc Golf Course review just says Blue Valley KS so I never knew, ha.

The sign at the course calls it Blue Valley.  It's in Kansas.

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General Banter / Re: Top rated courses in KS inquiry
« on: February 23, 2016, 02:10:02 pm »
Oswego Overlook is no way near a B+.  Nope.  I've played it. I've also played 144 courses in 17 states and it's not even a B-.  C+ is pushing it.

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The layout will be the same as last year.  I'll get the flags and alternate tee areas painted Friday afternoon before so the flags don't get pulled up by kids, etc.

Regarding how the set up will be:

In all cases, the creek running through the course is OB with the exception of hole 6, 8, 10 where you throw across the creek.  Then it is casual.

In all cases the sidewalk is OB, even when you are teeing off of the sidewalk.  What this means is, if your disc never crosses the vertical plane to make it in bounds, the last place you were in bounds is the tee area.  So, you are reteeing as a 3 (or 5, 7, etc.)

There is a mando on holes 14 & 16.  They will be marked with a drop zone next to them.  In both cases you must be to the left of the mando.  If you go to the right, proceed to the drop zone for missing the mando with a one stroke penalty.  On hole 14, since the creek left is OB, and the tree right is mando, it does make for a fairly narrow gap.  Of course you can go over the OB line as long as you come back inbounds.


1 - 5 Both use regular pad
6 - Regular pad is the short pad.  Long pad is the sidewalk currently marked with a green line.
7 - Both use regular pad
8 - Regular pad is the short pad.  Long pad is the sidewalk currently marked with a green line.
9 - 10 Both use regular pad
11 - Both will use green line painted on sidewalk.  It's a safer tee area and only 15' difference.
12 - 13 Both use regular pad
14 - Long pad is the regular tee area (989').  Short pad is the Drop Zone which is up by the pair of trees (379')
15 - Basket is broken.  I've asked the P&R to fix it.  If it is not fixed by Friday before, we will bag it and use a temporary basket about 30' farther and a tad to the left of the original basket.
16 - Both use regular pad
17 - Long pad is the regular tee area.  Short pad is the bicycle / walking path to the right of the fairway.  It was marked with green paint.  This is the sidewalk towards the industrial buidlings, not the walking path that winds through the park. 
18 - Both will tee off sidewalk immediately to the left of the normal tee area - marked with green paint.  It is a safer tee area. 
[In all cases the sidewalk is OB, even when you are teeing off of the sidewalk.  What this means is, if your disc never crosses the vertical plane to make it in bounds, the last place you were in bounds is the tee area.  So, you are reteeing as a 3 (or 5, 7, etc.)]

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Winter Leagues / Re: dg NOMAD Glow!
« on: February 16, 2016, 04:05:25 pm »
i would be down for a month of bad glow in march at stocksdale park in liberty

that would be cool

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Review this link for hole lengths:

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=1410&mode=hi

 Pars are as of what the local recreation commission used for their tournaments. Creek and walking trail are O.B. on holes that you dont have to travel directly over.
Red is normal tees
White is short tees used for Kanza Krush
Blue is long tees used for Kanza Krush

First column is Red, second is White, third is Blue

Expand All Pin Positions Hole #   Favorite Holes   
Expand Pin Positions 1      264 ft (3)   264 ft (3)   264 ft (3)
Expand Pin Positions 2      214 ft (3)   214 ft (3)   214 ft (3)
Expand Pin Positions 3      211 ft (3)   211 ft (3)   211 ft (3)
Expand Pin Positions 4      314 ft (3)   314 ft (3)   314 ft (3)
Expand Pin Positions 5      627 ft (4)   627 ft (4)   627 ft (3)
Expand Pin Positions 6      169 ft (3)   169 ft (3)   295 ft (3)
Expand Pin Positions 7      417 ft (4)   417 ft (3)   417 ft (3)
Expand Pin Positions 8           206 ft (3)   196 ft (3)   280 ft (3)
Expand Pin Positions 9      322 ft (3)   322 ft (3)   322 ft (3)
Expand Pin Positions 10      203 ft (3)   203 ft (3)   203 ft (3)
Expand Pin Positions 11      325 ft (3)   325 ft (3)   325 ft (3)
Expand Pin Positions 12      364 ft (3)   364 ft (3)   364 ft (3)
Expand Pin Positions 13      339 ft (3)   339 ft (3)   339 ft (3)
Expand Pin Positions 14      989 ft (5)   379 ft (3)   989 ft (5)
Expand Pin Positions 15      236 ft (3)   263 ft (3)   263 ft (3)
Expand Pin Positions 16      594 ft (4)   594 ft (4)   597 ft (3)
Expand Pin Positions 17      630 ft (5)   318 ft (3)   630 ft (4)
Expand Pin Positions 18      257 ft (3)   257 ft (3)   257 ft (3)
Totals (Dist./Par):   6681 ft / 61   5776 ft / 56   6911 ft / 57

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Hey Ben - sorry if I came off a little strong.  Just trying to make sure we are clear on what are actual PDGA rules, and what are misinterpreted PDGA rules.  Thanks for understanding

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OK guys I know I have played in events with three people in the division.  The three of us were sent out on a card, just the three of us.  That would be considered a group.  The three people on the card, in the group, was the division.

That was at the discretion of the TD of the tournament you were in.

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So if you have 4 people that want to play novice, the division must be allowed?

As I understand it, yes. Unless the TD has declared a restriction ahead of time.

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PDGA COMPETITION RULE 2.1.J:

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A Tournament Director may, by giving adequate public notice, restrict the divisions offered. Absent such notice, the Tournament Director shall offer for competition any division which has four or more players that are eligible and wishing to compete. Tournament Directors may offer divisions with less than four players at their discretion.

I have provided notice that a division will be opened up at four players.  Less than four players, a division may remain open, or it may be combined with another division. 

In general, for the divisions I run, for any segment, the least common denominator will be used.

For example - Pro Mens Divisions.  3 in Open, 2 in Masters, 2 in Grandmasters.  Grands will be pushed down to Masters to make a group of 4.  Open is the least common denominator and will remain a division at 3.

Another example - Advanced Mens.  6 in Advanced, 2 in Advanced Master, 4 in Advanced Grandmaster.  The four in Adv Grands constitute a minimum division and will remain.  The 2 in Advanced Master do not.  They can be pushed into Advanced, or downgrade to Intermediate if they qualify.  In this example, if there were 3 in Advanced Master, the four of us (TD and 3 players) would talk it over and determine what works for the majority of the 3.

Ben Crosby - Competition Rule 1.6D is regarding the grouping of players on a card, not players within a competition division.  Two different things.

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Lunch will still be available for purchase from Hog Holler Saloon.  Instead of taking prepayment through the registration process, we are streamlining the handling of money and you can pay the saloon directly for lunch.

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Few notes:

  • Tournament is about 1/3 full
  • The Innova Makani bonus disc is for all Pros and Ams that pre-register by March 3rd.
  • We will use alternate tee pads on some holes.  There will also be a natural tee pad next to each concrete diamond for players to use if the do not like the concrete diamonds.  Some of the longer holes will actually be throwing from the sidewalk
  • The broken basket on hole 15 will be bagged and an alternate basket about 25 ft farther will be used.

Registration is here:

http://www.discgolfscene.com/tournaments/Kanza_Krush_Presented_by_Innova_Champion_Discs_2016

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General Banter / Re: No Disc Golf carts?
« on: February 10, 2016, 09:30:10 am »
I like to think of disc golf as a form of exercise.  Using a cart really defeats that purpose.

Ditto.

I've used a motorized golf cart at Municipal in Emporia to play disc golf.  I found it to not be worth it.  Carts are to remain on the cart path.  By the time you walk to your disc, walk back to the cart, etc., you are not saving that much walking.


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Wha?  That's funny. Thanks for pointing that out.

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If you haven't been out to play this course, you should. It's amazing.

I've played 144 courses in 17 states.  It is in my personal top 5 favorite courses.

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