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Leagues / Re: Spring PDGA League format poll
« on: March 06, 2014, 12:36:09 pm »
Occurred to me that not everyone would know league costs.

They are:

-$1 discount if KCFDC member
+$1 Ace Fund - optional.

PDGA league would be $1 more.

League payouts are provided here:

Leagues / Re: 2014 KCFDC PDGA League
« on: March 06, 2014, 09:59:25 am »
See new thread regarding a poll.

Leagues / RESULTS: Spring PDGA League format poll
« on: March 06, 2014, 09:57:59 am »
I would like to gather interest and opinion regarding a possible PDGA Spring league.  It would run approximately April & May.  Depending on the days/ dates, it may run into June as well.

This is for informational purposes only.  The top choice may not necessarily be the one chosen (if any).  Besides what players would like, it would need to be approved by the BOD and would depend on the perceived impacts on other club leagues.

You can vote twice.  If you have one choice this is strongly favored over the second choice, please leave a comment explaining why.

The fee structure would stay the same as normal KCFDC leagues except for the additional $1 PDGA fee.  Basically, whatever you used to pay (member vs. non-member, ace fund, etc.), add $1.

General Banter / JohnE 'It's About Time' McCray
« on: March 06, 2014, 08:37:36 am »
From the few videos I've watched of JohnE, I was impressed.

While this blog is one of the most painful to read (regarding grammar, spelling, punctuation, etc.)  I'm highly interested in watching to see how he does this coming year.  It would be awesome to watch him win a NT or Major.

BTW - anybody now what the deal is with the Capital E?

Leagues / Re: 2014 KCFDC PDGA League
« on: March 05, 2014, 07:59:47 am »
What about an abbreviated rotating KS league? So instead of playing 10 different courses, just pick 3 and rotate between them?

SMP, Lakeside, Wyco or something like that.
That's an idea.  I'm intending to go to next week's BOD meeting to discuss.

Leagues / Re: 2014 KCFDC PDGA League
« on: March 04, 2014, 05:47:15 pm »
@ Peter - If you want to run a PDGA at SMP - please do.  I was getting the interpretation that you were not really wanting to.

@ Steve.  That is very interesting.  And explains a lot, like how I got a 689 rated round when I previous worst rated round was about 780.  It might possibly have to do with how Jack entered the numbers - if he adjusted the Par or not, etc.  I've had a couple of emails with Chuck Kennedy about ratings and this would be a good one to ask.

As far as ratings go - I'm rated 842.  Which is my highest ever after starting at 824 2 -years ago.  I don't need ratings, I just find them interesting.  Same thing with points.  For me, once I get past 200, it doesn't matter because I'm guaranteed an invite to Am Worlds as it is currently set up.

Leagues / Re: 2014 KCFDC PDGA League
« on: March 04, 2014, 04:39:46 pm »
Currently, this is the way I see it.

My first choice is to have one of the permanent leagues run a 10-week PDGA league. 

Either Cliff or Olathe on Monday
Rosie or Young on Wednesday
move WyCo to Monday or Wednesday.

I am volunteering to run the PDGA side of any of these options.  I could possibly consider running WyCo for the rest of the year on Monday or Wednesday - but I'm not 100% there yet.

If one of these options do not work, my next choice will be to run a Wednesday travelling league. 

Tentatively, my idea would be to start Wednesday, April 2 - running 9 weeks straight through May 28 with the 10th 'week' actually being a Saturday afternoon round at Perry on the 5/24.  This is just my idea so far because I'm bored at work and excited about sanctioned leagues.

Again - my first choice would be not to start something new, but to work with what we already have.

I'm starting to think this is a good time to still gather ideas and then attend the BOD meeting March 12 (?) with proposals.

Leagues / Re: 2014 KCFDC PDGA League
« on: March 04, 2014, 03:24:37 pm »
Jack - maybe we could run 9 weeks on a KCFDC course and then the final 10th week at Perry.  We may have to adjust the time for the finale.  I would love to see (how bad) my rating would be at Perry.

Leagues / Re: 2014 KCFDC PDGA League
« on: March 04, 2014, 03:19:19 pm »
More thoughts -

For the PDGA league to actually have a decent rating (which the only reason for having a PDGA league is for rating and points) is that at least 3 (?) Propogators must play.

Good information here (scroll down to Leagues):

Here are a couple FAQ's that I think are particularly helpful

Do players get PDGA ratings from league rounds? Yes. Current PDGA members will earn ratings and even non-members will earn them even though they won't be able to see their official ratings until they join or renew. Players will see preview (unofficial) ratings each week when the TD posts the scores online just like regular tournaments.

If some weeks don't display preview ratings, it's likely not enough players entered that week with established ratings (propagators) over 799. At least 5 propagators are required to produce preview ratings. The good news is that once the league report is submitted to the PDGA, players will still receive official ratings for any of the weeks they couldn't see preview ratings.

Do players earn PDGA points?
Yes. Players will earn PDGA points based on how many players they tied or beat in their division during each week of play.  League points are 1/2 the amount of points of a C-Tier tournament

You don't have to be a PDGA member to play.
You would have to pay the $1/round PDGA fee to play in this league regardless of PDGA membership status.

So it would be normal KCFDC fee structure + $1 PDGA fee.

Leagues / Re: 2014 KCFDC PDGA League
« on: March 04, 2014, 03:08:59 pm »
I don't mind having a traveling league in the evening.  I actually really lilke the idea.  I'm concerned about attendance though.  I think it would have to be on a set night - like every Monday or every Wednesday (actually those are the only two I'm available.)

If I ran it, I would post the 10 week schedule ahead of time.  All 10 weeks.

Payouts would be the normal KCFDC league structure, including KC Kash if the board would let me.

It would be run on two different spreadsheets.  The KCFDC league and the PDGA league.  Theoretically, a person could play 'Open' in the KCFDC league but 'MA1 - Advanced' in the PDGA league.  This is actually kosher with the PDGA.  For leagues, Ams can collect cash and not have their Am status in jeopardy.

For the PDGA side, we would run just 'Open' and 'MA1'.  This helps everyone with PDGA points as these two categories have the highest point multiplier.  If this is confusing, let me know and I'll explain it in more detail.

Leagues / Re: 2014 KCFDC PDGA League
« on: March 04, 2014, 03:01:08 pm »
I don't believe you should have a PDGA league that only privileged people who enjoy Friday's off can play.  Some of us want to play too, but don't have the 4-day work week, or unemployment.

Just an opinion.

Hey Joe - I'm not trying to bust you or anything, but this doesn't really work well.

"I can't play on Sunday tournaments because it is the Sabbath" - Christians

"I can't play on Saturday tournaments because it is the Sabbath" - Jews and Seventh Day Adventists

"I can't play on weekend tournaments because I'm a bar server and don't go to bed until 4AM."

"I can't play out of town because I had a DUI and can't drive."

"I can't play in Tim Selinske Masters in Tulsa, OK in April because I'm 27"

"I can't play in PDGA Junior World Championships because I'm 27"

If the only reason FTL doesn't have a PDGA league is because some can't play, the logic is flawed.

Again - not trying to start a piss storm, just pointing some issues out.  I'm not the one that would run the FTL PDGA league though...

Tournaments / Re: 2014 Rosedale Open - March 8th & 9th
« on: March 04, 2014, 02:09:30 pm »
If it is not too much trouble, could we get a listing of placements?

Leagues / Re: 2014 KCFDC PDGA League
« on: March 04, 2014, 09:36:16 am »
I've looked into the amount of work it takes, and the cost, and am willing to cover it.  If I cover the registration fee, I want to cover the league reporting.

I think FTL would be a perfect PDGA league, but I can only commit to every other week - at best (and maybe not even that) - starting the second week of April when I go back to having Friday's off.  I think we could have more than one PDGA league, FTL being one of them, but that would have to be someone else.

I would be interested in running a PDGA league myself on either Monday or Wednesday.  It is hard to keep track of various threads, but it seems like there was some interest in moving Cliff Drive to Friday.  If so, we could move WyCo to Monday.  I would run WyCo on Mondays (or Wednesday) as  PDGA league.  If Monday, our first day would have to be April 7 - I could not start earlier.

General Banter / Re: Snow Golf
« on: March 04, 2014, 09:33:44 am »
Yeah - unfortunately I'm betting those that do this are not on this board.  Last snow fall, I had the same problem at Centennial in Lawrence.  It sucked.

however, I suppose there may be one or two that do read this...

General Banter / Scott Stokely is (sort of) touring again
« on: March 04, 2014, 09:30:14 am »

After a 13 year break from disc golf I've decided to hit the road again and bring back the "National Champion Scott Stokely's Disc Golf Throwing Clinics" at 75 courses around the US and Canada. At each event I will provide a FREE throwing clinic teaching both basic and advanced disc golf techniques . After each clinic will be an optional round of random draw doubles with small entry fee.

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