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General Banter / Re: We have a Dream...
« on: November 11, 2012, 08:54:44 PM »
Cooper,
Trying to compare your throw to the David Feldberg video has helped...  I have noticed a few things I do wrong by watching those videos then watching mine.  I see I have been breaking my wrist too early.

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General Banter / Re: We have a Dream...
« on: November 11, 2012, 08:41:19 PM »
NM...  It was just the angle...

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General Banter / Re: We have a Dream...
« on: November 11, 2012, 08:37:57 PM »
your reach back is higher than your actual line giving you a vertical arch to your line.

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Tournaments / Re: Rosedale Winter Wonderland - Unsanctioned
« on: November 07, 2012, 02:15:04 PM »
I am registered...  Hopefully our luck with the weather holds!

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General Banter / Re: We have a Dream...
« on: November 07, 2012, 09:16:04 AM »
This has been a super thread!!!  Thank you guys for pushing to make our club a true community!  I got into disc golf years ago because it was what I could afford on a college student budget but I have stayed because of the culture.  It is amazing to see this culture hold.  As our community grows it gets harder and harder to maintain that and you guys have really stepped up to make it happen!!!!!

Andy Portwood and I meet up at some course at least one day every weekend and would love to get any instruction we can get.  We both have cameras that take high speed video and playback slow motion replay to break things down so hopefully we can help you out as well using the tools we have.  Look forward to seeing you guys on the course.

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General Banter / Re: Course Design Ideas
« on: November 02, 2012, 11:36:42 AM »
Well worded loomis.

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General Banter / Re: Course Design Ideas
« on: November 02, 2012, 11:24:01 AM »
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Yes we do have some good course designers in town.  We also have a ton of courses.  Why on earth wouldn't we want to have a course designed by one of the premier architects currently in the game?

I for one am in the process of trying to get work for John in the area, here is my rationale.

Why not?  Why not have a "Houck Designed" course right here in the metro area to compare our solid folks against?  Why not have that to lure some people to the area that may want to just visit it as an attraction?  Why not then understand that the diversity we bring in may enable us to get new ideas from him, or solidify the notion that we do know what we are doing with our lands that we play on?

Though not a large proponent of Texas, his accolades follow him, as such wouldn't we be silly to shoo him away because of favoritism?

I for one am very interested in not only having a course here but hopefully the chance to work and develop them with him and learn from the experiences that he has.

Even with all of our wonderful folks designing courses in the area, collectively we are still a small fraction of the courses that he has designed.  You learn better tricks from the top pros to help your game, why not learn some new tricks from a top pro on the design side?

Jack

I completely agree with this...  even if our local designers can produce the same level course it wont have the drawing power.  If we can compare our local designs side by side with a course designed by a big name it could give our local designers a name.  Worst case is we learn something about course design.  Best case is our current courses gain more respect nationally.

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General Banter / Re: Course Design Ideas
« on: October 31, 2012, 10:06:32 PM »
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So we agree then. We don't need every course to be super hard, we just need one or two or three to be super hard.

I think, in the end, it comes down to variety. The base SMP course fits within the variety of KC disc golf for having multiple pin positions and being moderately challenging but yet maintaining that air of beginner friendliness. If the park would give us more land, I think we need to swing for the fences and put something out of character for KC there. At least two par 5's, 4-8 par 4's, and the rest can be varying degrees of par 3's. Then, if it needs to be adapted from there, there can be a goal to have two tees on each hole, with one being shorter and much easier, just like at Young Park.

I agree that variety is the key thing for future planning.  I think we need super courses as much as beginner courses as long as there is a good variety.

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General Banter / Re: Course Design Ideas
« on: October 31, 2012, 09:59:08 PM »
I would very much love to see a highly technical additional course in SMP, however I feel that getting more small beginner friendly courses should be the clubs main focus.  I love the technical courses but there is no way to get my fiance out to those  courses.  I have used Rosedale down under to introduce beginners to the game for years.  I know I have seen lot of new players get discouraged when they play their first round and they consistently have to throw 6 time to get to the hole their host gets to in one or two.  In my experience I also know most new players don't want to be seen teeing off the short tee as it has the stigma of the ladies tee in golf.  I really saw this problem when I took a group from work for their first game to Prairie Center shortly after the recent course updates.  I really do want to see a new A tier course at SMP and it hurts writing this but if I do not believe we should make any existing courses harder until we are able to populate the city with more short beginner level courses.  I know of some people that I could get out to a 9 hole confidence building course that are scared to go out to the existing courses.

There is a sweet little nine holer at a school in Blue Valley off 164th and Antioch I think....?

It would be a really good introductory course for newbys.

The new stuff at PC is gradually softening up around the edges as well. Also, it's very easy to play 1-10, then 17 and 18 at PC, which keeps you from having to deal with holes that players like Hemme, Tank, and Emac appreciate most.


That is a great beginner course and it is now an 18 hole course but we need more to get new players.  New players are not as likely to travel very far to play.  To maintain growth of our community I think it makes sense make it easy to find an easier course to try out the game.  Ten years ago the courses we had were fine for promoting growth but there were far fewer people that had heard of the game back then.  Now that the disc golf community has matured a bit here the next logical demographic is not as enthusiastic about diving in full throttle.  PC is where I took my company and it scared a number of them from the game.  I am suggesting what I am because in my experience I have seen a lot of potential new players run off due to the difficulty of the courses around.  I am not saying make existing courses easier.  I am saying that we should put more focus on making the sport more attractive to a wider demographic so that we can afford to continue building increasingly sophisticated top level courses in the future.

I think this thread has been a great conversation to open.  It has sparked a lot of conversation and differing opinions.

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General Banter / Re: Course Design Ideas
« on: October 26, 2012, 04:06:28 PM »
I would very much love to see a highly technical additional course in SMP, however I feel that getting more small beginner friendly courses should be the clubs main focus.  I love the technical courses but there is no way to get my fiance out to those  courses.  I have used Rosedale down under to introduce beginners to the game for years.  I know I have seen lot of new players get discouraged when they play their first round and they consistently have to throw 6 time to get to the hole their host gets to in one or two.  In my experience I also know most new players don't want to be seen teeing off the short tee as it has the stigma of the ladies tee in golf.  I really saw this problem when I took a group from work for their first game to Prairie Center shortly after the recent course updates.  I really do want to see a new A tier course at SMP and it hurts writing this but if I do not believe we should make any existing courses harder until we are able to populate the city with more short beginner level courses.  I know of some people that I could get out to a 9 hole confidence building course that are scared to go out to the existing courses.

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Young Park - Blue Springs / Re: directional arrows freshly installed
« on: October 23, 2012, 12:12:06 PM »
I know this is an old topic but I know this is a problem at a number of courses.

I saw the links below and thought that modifying the nylon netted version to connect to the posts with something that will absorb the shock and fold the base at the bottom to create another unique OB obstacle.  Some of the posts could even be set at an angle to promote catching discs that hit the space it certain scenarios.  This could be particularly helpful at swope where it is easy to put a disc in another fairway.   (at least for me :P)

http://www.sfdiscgolf.net/construction/docs/Tree%20Screen%20Detail.pdf
http://www.sfdiscgolf.net/construction/docs/Tree%20Scrim%20Detail.pdf

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Thank you, everyone that helped out to make this event happen!  I had a great time!  I learned a lot in two days and appreciate all the advice given!!!

PS: Sorry Kriste and Ronda....  I swear I wasn't aiming for you on Swope regardless of what it looked like. 

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Guess I read everything wrong.  I is too cold to be at pc this early!  Thought it was a 9am start.

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Found and Lost / Found Orc at Cliff Drive
« on: October 09, 2012, 03:20:01 PM »
I found an Orc at Cliff Drive.  It has a name on it and I wish I could remember the name but I saw the owner earlier on hole 5 Saturday and found it on the long hole but did not see the owner there.  I left it at dynamic discs for you to pick up.

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Tournaments / Re: Paradise Diamond @ Smithville Lake - 09-28 & 09-29 2012
« on: October 02, 2012, 10:40:47 AM »
This was a blast.  Awesome course design especially with Woodhenge!  I have a new favorite course!  Would play it all the time if it wasn't so far out for me.

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