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General Banter / Pay to play in KC
« on: July 03, 2013, 07:42:00 PM »
In honor of independence, freedom, and Murican rights  :) I thought it would be good timing to introduce a subject that I don't hear much talk about in these here parts....PAY TO PLAY.

In my limited travels to play dg (only played in 11 states, 81 courses) I have encountered nearly a dozen courses that were pay to play.  One thing seems to stand out as I play these courses...they are NICE.  Always trimmed/mowed, trash free, ivy/oak/sumac are under control, great tees/baskets/signs, most had some form of small disc shack where you could purchase your day pass/drinks/discs, landscaping and hardscaping features that bring beauty/function/challenge into play, little vandalism that I've noticed, ability to track who plays, accountability because of the ability to track who goes in and out of courses, and the list could probably go on.

I'll cut to the chase.  I love KC.  This is my hometown and I take great great pride in what some would consider one of the better metro areas in the entire country for dg.  However, I am genuinely concerned that our system for advancing and maintaining our courses is falling behind the times.  While you will be hard pressed to find a more engaged and motivated club in the entire country, I am wondering if perhaps a new system could leverage all of this dedicated club member energy and hard work ethic (as well as our partnerships with multiple townships) to help take our courses to the next level.  IMHO, and it pains me to say this, our courses (both old and new) need help, and we are quickly falling behind other metro areas around the country. I'm not talking about the kind of help that says "Let's have a work day" or "everyone do their part and pick up trash as you play".  I'm talking about help in the form of a pay to play system and all that this could do for the maintenance and upgrades that our courses desperately need.  As an example, I recently traveled to the Twin Cities and I was extremely impressed with every single course that was pay to play (which was 7 courses that I personally played).  The level of detail from cleanliness, upgrades, aesthetics, facilities, course grooming etc. was truly impressive and I found myself being jealous (not in a bad way, but in a way that made me really want this level of excellence and professional appearance in my hometown).  With this level of (all the attributes I listed above) applied to the incredible courses we have in KC we would have THE BEST COURSES of any metro area...hands down.  For those of you who have played Bryant Lake and Blue Ribbon Pines in Mpls., could you imagine that level of detail and attention applied to Water Works?  Absolutely makes WW's a top 5 course in the country without debate (and if people debate that I'll take their knees out).  Or what about Kessler, Wyco, Legacy, and the list could include many of our outstanding courses in KC? 

So, without rambling on and on, I just wanted to throw out some of my initial thoughts to perhaps give legs to what I feel is an important forward thinking question...Can KC (especially some of our crowning jewels) become pay to play?  What barriers need to be overcome to bring a level of excellence to our courses that rivals, wait, BLOWS AWAY every metro area in the country?  We are blessed with a great dg community as well as geological topography that is a gift from God (if you believe in one  ;) ), now, how can we make this hands down the best disc golf metro area no questions asked!

Please allow me to reiterate, this conversation has nothing to do with the past (because quite frankly, our dg community has an incredible storied past that takes us back to the pioneer days of the sport) but instead, it has to do with a deliberate executable system that enables our great dg club and board to elevate our courses into the top tier of courses in the world...once again.

Thank you for any discussion/opinions that you may have.  Happy 4th of July to everyone!!!




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Lakeside Hills / Re: Pads
« on: June 27, 2013, 01:05:37 AM »
All the above would be wonderful!

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General Banter / Re: Perry Lake Question
« on: June 27, 2013, 01:03:19 AM »
Thank you for the info Ted, this is good news!  I will do a full body application of appropriate tick ointment and make the trip on friday, can't wait to play it!!!!

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General Banter / Perry Lake Question
« on: June 26, 2013, 05:58:42 PM »
Hey gang, sorry if there is a better place to post this, I am a little unsure where questions like this are best asked.  I am wanting to go to Perry Lake on friday june 28th but want to make sure that it is playable (as far as mowing upkeep and the heavy tick situation).  Has anyone been very recent, and if so, how would you describe it's current condition?  Thank you for any insight.  I don't want to make a 45 minute trip if it is not being maintained and playable. 

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Lakeside Hills / Re: Pads
« on: June 26, 2013, 05:49:10 PM »
In an email conversation with the parks assistant director Monday morning, he said they hope to start constructing boxes by July 1. He also said he has some other enhancements in the works for the course.   8)

Please share these "enhancements" if you can!! ;D

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Lakeside Hills / Re: Pads
« on: June 25, 2013, 10:42:24 PM »
Drove by late this evening and didn't see any new pads or prep for pads.  I'm patiently waiting ::) and hoping they magically get put in before the end of July.  I have 8 buddies flying in from all over the country for 4 days of non-stop dg and I was hoping to put this course on the list but if there are no pads it will not make the cut.  I will be pretty bummed if we can't play Lakeside!!

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General Banter / Re: YOUR TOP TEN FAVORITE KC COURSES!
« on: June 07, 2013, 04:22:12 PM »
Speaking of shaggy courses....look no further than Lakeside Hills.  Shaggy, swampy, tick infested......

Only if you don't play the fairways!!   ;D

I'm working on getting the DR out there for holes 10 & 11.  Other than those, holes 3,4 & 16 are bad if you miss the 70' wide fairways...

Agree fully.  For this being the very initial season of play at Lakeside I feel it is in stellar condition.  It's honestly playing a little better than I expected this early in it's existence.  Olathe P&R is keeping it mowed real nice and the little tweaks that have been taking place over the last month or so have only made it better.  Now, if only we could get that freakin' practice basket back in it's rightful spot!!  Thieves are dumb >:(

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Found and Lost / Re: I lost my precious pinky!
« on: June 06, 2013, 07:40:50 PM »
I know you all were sweating bullets wondering if i'd ever get 'pinky' back  :o ...welp, I found her today.  She was hunkered down in the tall stuff right were I thought she would be. 

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General Banter / Re: YOUR TOP TEN FAVORITE KC COURSES!
« on: June 06, 2013, 03:29:43 PM »
Top 5:

1.  Water Works
2.  Blue Valley
3.  Cliff
4.  Woodhenge
5.  Wyco


Honorable mention (way more interesting conversation IMO)

-Swope
-Lakeside Hills (Lake Olathe) (Birdland)
-Legacy
-Pleasant Hill
-Blackthorn
-SMP (it's always peaceful, well kept, family friendly...my young one's love this course)

Most over-rated courses in KC:

lol, I wouldn't touch this subject with a 10 ft pole.  But, you know I'm looking at you...course that I think is WAY over-rated.

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Found and Lost / I lost my precious pinky!
« on: June 04, 2013, 01:12:21 PM »
While playing leagues at Lakeside (Birdland) on Monday 6/4/2013 I lost my precious pinky to the right of the pin (eastside), in the long stuff on hole #16.  She is a pink Force w/ white lettering and I just bought her a week ago.  Needless to say I am sad and already miss her.  She does not have my name and number on her but I would appreciate it if the kind soul who finds her will give me the opportunity to reunite with her.  Please pm me if you find it and karma will quickly find its way to you!  Thanks ;D

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Lakeside Hills / Re: 04-29-13 LAKESIDE HILLS MINI
« on: May 07, 2013, 12:43:23 AM »
Hey Tom, I have class on Monday nights off and on (which is why I wasn't at PC tonight).  Is there a way to pick up my winnings (from the night of April 29th) throughout the week or how is it best to collect?  Just wondering, thanks.
Perry Martin

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General Banter / Re: stolen basket
« on: May 03, 2013, 03:04:40 PM »
I know (per Tom) that these particular baskets are the only set in town like them, so it will be easier to identify it if found, however this has me thinking.  Is there a way for each course to engrave some sort of serial number (or marking) in an inconspicuous place on the basket (could be anywhere like a certain piece of metal on the underside of the basket, or a place on the pole etc.) so that there is a definite way of identifying baskets that may have been stolen?  Engravers are not that expensive and if the city and course director are the only one's who know where the engraving is, this may be a very easy way to check any suspicious baskets in the city.  I know this will not stop people from stealing baskets but if they do not know that these baskets have been specifically 'marked' this makes it easier to reclaim what is ours if they are found.  On a side note, I hope there is a stiffer punishment for stealing city property and that the douche bag who stole it is made an example out of.  Not prison or anything like that, but maybe every single member of the club gets to line up and give him a shot to the nuts with their steel-toed Kodiak work boots!!   

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General Banter / Re: Mega Beer Thread
« on: April 19, 2013, 04:26:36 PM »


But it's no Zombie Dust.

Zombie Dust is my #1 delight.  I lived 40 minutes from 3 Floyd's and almost every bar in Chicago had several of their beer's on tap at any given time.  I moved here to KC last summer and the thing I miss most about Chicago is all the great, local, fresh, craft beer.  If anyone has any suggestions for local (regional) crafts that remotely enter the league of 3 floyd's please share :)

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Lakeside Hills / Re: Lakeside Hills aka Birdland is OPEN!
« on: March 14, 2013, 11:43:02 PM »
With all the great work that's been put in to this course you guys definitely deserve a break!!  Btw, we met on teebox 10 today with Dick.  Great course Tom, thanks for giving this south side gem!

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Lakeside Hills / Re: Lakeside Hills aka Birdland is OPEN!
« on: March 14, 2013, 03:36:47 PM »
Any idea where I could find hole distances?  I've looked on here and the facebook page, but can't find any info. 

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