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West Side would love nothing more than to have East Side bring their "Be All End All" team. 

It won't matter.

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Looks like lightning and rain this evening -- hopefully not.

It looks like the storm will push on through by 6:00.  Maybe a slightly delayed start, but get out and battle for a spot on the Best Side.

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Tournaments / Re: 2016 Kansas City Wide Open - May 6-8, 2016
« on: May 08, 2016, 06:51:51 am »

You missed:
 -dyed star mini
 -Pico mini that fits tight on standard beer cans

Yes,  was going by memory.  I guess too much for my ol' brain to recall.  Also forgot the synthetic material towel.

Anyway,  good stuff.  Thanks for pulling that all together, KCWO KCFDC crew!

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Tournaments / Re: 2016 Kansas City Wide Open - May 6-8, 2016
« on: May 07, 2016, 07:38:28 pm »
Must be a sworn to secrecy KCWO SECRET then. ;)

- a KCWO embroidered wind/rain performance pullover jacket.
- a $68 voucher for Go Ape (apparently good for 4 hours of zip line adventure there in Swope Park)
- a DD Evidence
- a Gateway Warlock
- a Makani (new super class disc)
- a wide open bag tag (doubled as entry into raffle prize drawings)
- an individually personalized leather tag
- a New Belgium beer bottle opener
- a sock like beer bottle koozie
- a rubber beer bottle koozie
- a half dozen stickers from various vendors
- a tube of lip balm
- additionally, a long sleeve KCWO shirt

So, if you enter events for the stuff, and didn't enter this one, you missed out, imo.

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Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2016--June 18th and 19th Location TBD
« on: April 26, 2016, 04:19:00 pm »
quote...

To be fair, I can't think

...end quote

the misguided power of removing things from context.  :P

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Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2016--June 18th and 19th Location TBD
« on: April 26, 2016, 03:50:32 pm »
Jack is correct,  the concept of "starters" doesn't apply here.  The 16 players selected from the pool of available players (up to 21) for each team for a round comprise each team's squad for the current round.  None of those players can be substituted out, during the current competitive round, like in sports with a traditional "starting" line up. 

That said, each captain is free to favor players that made the team via qualifiers over captains picks, or not, based on player availability, situational strategy, or whatever.

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WYCO / 2016 Wyco League Fridays
« on: April 18, 2016, 12:39:45 pm »
Beckett said he would be posting info.   Maybe he meant on facebook or something.  But FYI, Wyco league is at 6:00pm every Friday. Be signed up by ~5:50.  There is an optional $5 side pot that will pay out the top third of the group that opts in.  This side pot is in addition to the usual league entry/payout structure.

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Leagues / Re: 2016 Regular league Season
« on: April 06, 2016, 02:29:39 pm »
Cade, Utz,  no worries.  It is kind of confusing trying to say what league costs are succinctly.  When I couldn't find record for fee increase in board minutes I kind of figured it was just a matter of wording.  But wanted to make sure.  thanks guys.

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Leagues / Re: 2016 Regular league Season
« on: April 06, 2016, 11:01:14 am »
Ok, Cade, Utz, and Kujo confirmed. This little table is correct.

Status League Cost    w/Ace pool  w/PDGA    w/Ace pool & w/PDGA   
Club Member  $4 $5 $5 $6
Not Club Member      $5 $6 $6 $7

Note: Status of membership is based on currently paid up dues or not.

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Leagues / Re: 2016 Regular league Season
« on: April 06, 2016, 10:07:34 am »
Posts in other areas of the forum support increase in entry fee theory


$5 for entry, $1 to optional Ace Fund ($267)
non KCFDC members please pay an extra $1




5$ entry, 6$ for non club members. Optional 1$ Ace fund.
Starts first Sunday in April.



But if I read this correctly league entry is $4 for club members at NE league(that is $5 minus 1$ for club member discount)


League=$5
PDGA=$1
Ace=$1 (optional)
Total=$7 (there is a $1 discount to current KCFDC members)



Payout at Monday's PC league, hosted by Cade, supports $4 entry with 13 players in Open and payout of $39.

http://kcfdc.org/forum/index.php?topic=12419.msg100074#msg100074

Payout yesterday at Blue Springs also supports no increase in entry fee with 12 players in and payout of $36 total. 

http://kcfdc.org/forum/index.php?topic=12405.msg100082#msg100082

But I don't know what people actually paid to get into either of those.

I don't really care if the fees have increased or not. Just looking for clarity.  Are individual league directors able to bump fees at their discretion?  Because, again I don't see any evidence a league fee increase was approved.

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Leagues / Re: 2016 Regular league Season
« on: April 06, 2016, 09:27:47 am »
From Cade's schedule there, league entry went up a dollar?  Last year, 1$ to club, $3 to payout, plus $1 to optional ace fund and $1 if you aren't a club member.  From Cade's post league is $5, I assume $1 to club $4 to payout.  Or is he assuming every entry will elect to pay into ace fund?

Is Cade's post a typo?  If not, where can the "paper trail" for increasing league fees be found.  I looked at recent board minutes and didn't see anything about increase in league fees.

I'm guessing it's just a misunderstanding how to advertise:

If it's like last year and no increase has been approved and we assume you're a club member, then league breaks down as follows.

League Cost is $4 (1$ goes to the club and $3 go into the payout pool)
non-club members pay $1 extra, which goes to the club
plus optional $1 ace pot entry
plus optional $1 PDGA (even if it's a PDGA league, you're not required to participate in that, 50 cents to PDGA and 50 cents to the club, right?)

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General Banter / Re: Distance Record Smashed...Again!
« on: March 29, 2016, 12:08:50 pm »
I've no proof for this assertion, but I believe that there is incredible skill to be able to project the disc high enough to take advantage of the wind, and of course, angling the disc optimally for massive distance. I would hazard a guess that the same guys and gals who are setting records would hold the records in an indoor setting, if and when we can find a venue for this.  While I believe that Tracy's "hurricane" scenario makes some sense, I will continue to argue that just not anyone can throw a disc far in high winds.

The official word now is the wind was closer to 40MPH, and disc weighed in at 154.

Absolutely, it takes skill to throw for distance down wind.  But the end result is still not a true measure of human performance. (note: there are indoor records that can be found from links in the original article, apparently someone threw inside an aircraft carrier.   8) )  But we don't need indoor, completely windless competition.  Outdoor records set under a certain allowable wind speed could be done.   But I guess that won't happen 'til that 100mph+ wind competition, where as Stork pointed out to get maximum distance the competitors would actually angle their throw up "into" the wind, occurs and sets the "event" unbreakable.  Or start doing proper wind limited measuring now and be able to track record progression for as long as there is disc golf discs.  The wind aided measurement actually does the big bombers disservice.  I want to know who can actually throw farthest, not who is the luckiest one to get a great wind gust. Don't you think they do too?

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General Banter / Re: Distance Record Smashed...Again!
« on: March 28, 2016, 03:30:07 pm »
I wonder what the legitimate record might be? (with wind under, say, 5mph)  Somewhere under 700ft, 600ft?   

The eventual problem with the wind aided system is that at some point, a competition, somewhere, is going to get into a situation where 1100ft will be silly short.  And from then on the record will stand as an unbreakable "event."   Like the MTA toss in 1984 mentioned by Stork in the article   

It's much more interesting to figure out and maintain a wind speed threshold system so that we can see the true distance record and a progression of it based on improved skill and technology over time.  It would not be as difficult to manage as Stork would have you believe.

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