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Tournaments / Re: 2014 Team Challenge
« on: February 09, 2014, 12:56:43 pm »
If any changes to player classification restrictions were to be made, at this point, it would be to remove them altogether.  I feel that is the direction this event should take. Even now, there are enough players in the area to create Amateur only and/or Masters only versions of this event.  There are probably not enough interested women or juniors to have dedicated events of this type for each. Growth of the sport in the area should eventually change that.

That said, once the East Side confirms who their Captain is, I'll discuss changes, if any, that the Captains would like to make and can agree to for 2014.

P.S. Jamie will be heading up barefooters only subjectively judged version at some future date.  :D

Tournaments / Re: 2014 Team Challenge
« on: February 05, 2014, 05:26:06 pm »
For Kansas, We will play Lakeside Hills. Although, I wouldn't be opposed to Playing P.C. and Lakeside. Dunno if it against the rules to play 2 different courses.

Hmmm, I think the format should remain the same, one course for two rounds on Sunday.  However, if this years captains want to override that, then new precedence for Sunday course flexibility would be in place. Power to the Captains!   ;)

Tournaments / Re: 2014 Team Challenge
« on: February 05, 2014, 05:04:06 pm »
Tank, have you changed your address to Raymore yet?

This has got me thinking lately. If someone moves mid calendar year, would they be able to play for either side? At least in the first year of the move? Or are they automatically an East Sider? Does the person get a say?

Sort of ran into this issue last year. Where is ones permanent residence the weekend of the event would be priority one. However if JohnnyDiscer qualified at an event for one side, then prior to the event, moved to the other side, he would play for the side he qualified in.  I think it would end up being a case by case decision, with the Captains coming to agreement.

Tournaments / Re: 2014 Team Challenge
« on: February 05, 2014, 04:52:15 pm »
I can certainly add a section in the event description/rules that defines what is expected of the TD. It has always been my intention to gradually place more of the organizational responsibilities of this event on the Captains each year. That said, those expectations would, in my mind, annually be reduced 'til a TD is essentially just a day of MC. 

Putting team jersey responsibilities on the Captains is a change that gives the team control over their sides identity.  Team identification shouldn't be dictated by a TD.

I tried to have the KCFDC VP of each state be captain the first year, but those in power didn't want in.  Eventually, I had to plead for volunteers. Then last year, to avoid the headache, I self chose myself and randomly invited Ryan for East Side.  As TD again this year, and as part of relinquishing responsibility, I've already dumped captain selection on the people from each side. I asked that each side have their captain selected by the end of last year's event.  West Side wrangled in Dick. But East Side couldn't come to a decision. I have heard several different names tossed around for East Side captain; GI Dave, Eastwood, Jake, but no one for certain has been announced as their guy.  I know they'll figure it out soon enough.

Tournaments / Re: 2014 Team Challenge
« on: February 04, 2014, 02:49:00 pm »
First order of business.  East Side, who is your captain? Dick Parker has agreed to remain captain of West Side even though he's TD of the 2014 KC Wide Open.   

The rules remain essentially the same as posted last year:  I'll rework anything that doesn't seem clear and re-post here. 

A procedural reminder; each team may be formed in any fashion the captain chooses. Only two restrictions are the composition of each round starting lineup as stated in the rules and 20 player maximum roster size.  (lineup submission deadline was never for restricting roster additions/changes, rather it was for acquiring team shirts on time, which leads to the following) 

Small organizational change this year.  I will not be organizing team uniforms for both sides.  As the event director, I'll be glad to help each captain as necessary, as I feel it is important to have a team uniform.   Captains can go for new jerseys, if the wish, or stay with the past jersey.  If the latter, I can put you in touch with either of the t-shirt printers we have used.

Note:  Since it's an even year (2014), West side will host two Sunday rounds.  East side hosts one round on Saturday afternoon.   

East Side, please select a captain for your team in the next couple of weeks. I'd like to have each side determine which KCFDC course they plan to host their part of this at by the end of February. 


Your Team Challenge Event Director - Tracy

Tournaments / Re: 2014 Team Challenge
« on: January 23, 2014, 07:04:29 pm »
The 2014 Team Challenge will take place on June 7th and 8th. Let's allow the dust to settle from this weekends Ice Bowl.  Then the Team Challenge will be on the radar.

Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
« on: June 03, 2013, 03:03:50 pm »
Thank you Tracy for all your hard work and making this happen... and you too, other guy who was like Tracy but not.

That's all I am, the other guy.  I definitely made some mistakes in the first round matchups, but I'd say I did a darn good job on day two to get us re-motivated, and to make it a close race.  With that said, congrats to Tracy and the west side.

Thank you, Ryan. 

None of us are totally used to the format yet. Thus we're still learning the drafting strategy as we go. But heck yeah, you had me squirming with your Sunday morning doubles pairings.  Getting back to tied after 2 rounds was important in more ways than one. Singles drafting seems a little easier. But having that first pick option is huge.

Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
« on: June 03, 2013, 09:31:54 am »
Most fun weekend of Disc Golf in my 16 years playing!  Great competition everywhere on the course, and Match Play makes everything more interesting.  I miss team sports, so this really felt like being a part of something bigger, again.  Thanks to both Captains, and all my homies on the West Siieeede!! 

Can't wait for next year!! ;D

That right there ^^^^^^^ is why this thing had to get off the ground!  Thanks for saying it, Joe. 

Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
« on: June 02, 2013, 08:31:46 pm »
Official results for the 3rd round of the 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge

Course: Cliff Drive
Format: Matchplay singles
Match 1: East (1) - Tavish Carduff over Kaylee Kincaid - 7&6
Match 2: East (1) - Amanda Jackson over Minna Dennis - 4&3
Match 3: All Square (.5 each) - Nick Winkelbauer vs Ryan Keck
Match 4: West (1) - Frank Weaver over Eric Kolkmeier - 1up
Match 5: West (1) - Bryan Guthrie over Jamie Barry - 3&2
Match 6:  East (1) - Dave Valdiviez over Dick Parker - 1up
Match 7: West (1) - Jeff Campbell over Zeke Henry - 6&5
Match 8: West (1)- Shanan Carson over Fred Smith - 3&2
Match 9: All Square (.5 each) - Cooper Arnold vs Jose Ossa
Match 10: East (1) - Eric Eastwood over Sam Webber 2&1
Match 11: All Square (.5 each) - Bobby Villarreal vs Caleb Walker
Match 12: All Square (.5 each) - Mike Thomas vs D. Loomis
Match 13: West (1) - Joe Hesting over Matt Perry 1up
Match 14: East (1) - CD Steiner over Tracy Walker 3&2
Match 15: All Square (.5 each) - Arturo Villarreal vs Jake Bowen
Match 16: West (1) - Ken Franks over Kevin Manning - 3&2

The white board scoreboard showed West wins 16.5 to East 16.  Does anybody see the math mistake here?

There are only 32 points available, not 32.5. Scoring got messed up along the way and the silly organizer didn't bother checking 'til before leaving the park this evening.  East earned 7.5 points in the 3rd round, Team West earned 8.5 points.

Official tally:
West 16.5
East 15.5

Congratulations to the West! Well done to the East for battling back to make it close.  Thank you out to everyone that supported the event by playing and or watching.

Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
« on: June 02, 2013, 08:01:54 pm »
There was a mistake in the scoring. I'll get to that a bit later.

Official results for the 2nd round of the 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge

Course: Cliff Drive
Format: Matchplay best shot doubles
Card 1: East (1) - Amanda Jackson and Tavish Carduff over Kaylee Kincaid and Minna Dennis - 3&1
Card 2: East (1) - Jose Ossa and Mike Thomas over Sam & Cooper - 7&5
Card 3: East (1) - Jamie Barry and Caleb walker over Nick Parks and Bryan Guthrie - 3&2
Card 4: East (1) - Matt Perry and Kevin Manning over Joe Hesting and Mike Davis - 3&2
Card 5: West (1) - Bobby Villarreal and Dick Parker over Dave Valdiviez and Ryan Keck - 1up
Card 6: East (1) - Zeke Henry and Eric Eastwood over Frank Weaver and Nick Winkelbauer - 6&4
Card 7: East (1) - Jake Bowen and CD Steiner over Arturo Villarreal and D. Loomis - 2&1
Card 8: West (1) - Ken Franks and Shanan Carson over Erik Kolkmeier and Jack Lowe - 6&4

After two rounds
West: 8
East: 8

16 match points still remain to be battled for.  Team West needs 8.5 points to win the championship.  East Side needs 8 points to retain the trophy. Matchplay singles to be played after lunch.

Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
« on: June 01, 2013, 10:10:51 pm »
Sorry for the late update. I was shuffled off to a neighborhood BBQ the moment I got home from the course. 

Official results for the 1st round of the 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge

Course: Wyco
Format: Matchplay alternate shot doubles
Card 1: West (1) - Joe Hesting and Cooper Arnold over East - Jose Ossa and Eric Kolkmeier - 4&3
Card 2: East (1) - Amanda Jackson and Tavish Carduff over Kaylee Kincaid and Minna Dennis - 3&1
Card 3: West (1) - Ken Franks and Shanan Carson over Jake Bowen and Zeke Henry - 1up
Card 4: West (1) - Frank Weaver and Nick Parks over Eric Eastwood and Dave Valdiviez - 3&1
Card 5: West (1) - Marc Wisbey and Dick Parker over Fred Smith and Ryan Keck - 5&4
Card 6: East (1) - Mike Thomas and Jamie Barry over Pete Cashen and Nick Winkelbauer - 3&1
Card 7: West (1) - Arturo Villarreal and Sam Webber over CD Steiner and Kevin Manning - 4&3
Card 8: West (1) - D Loomis and Bobby Villarreal over Caleb Walker and Jack Lowe - 3&2

West: 6
East: 2

24 match points still remain to be battled for.  Team West needs 10.5 points to win the championship.  East Side needs 14 points to retain the trophy.

2nd round at Cliff Drive will start at 9:30.Please be there no later than 9:00 for head count.  Format will be matchplay best shot doubles. East side has the option on first pick in the pairing process to select or defer.

Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
« on: May 29, 2013, 11:05:02 am »
Never mind what Jack said. He's talking about some event that has never existed.

The Kansas City Team Challenge for 2013:

Round 1: 8 matches of alternate shot doubles at Wyco. Rolling start with 1st card at 3:00pm, Sat. June 1st
Round 2: 8 matches of best shot doubles at Cliff Drive. Rolling start with 1st card at 9:30am, Sun. June 2nd
Round 3: 16 matches of singles at Cliff Drive. Rolling start with 1st card out at TBD, Sun. June 2nd (at least an hour after last card from first round is done)

For team members: Everyone should be at each course at least 30 minutes prior to the scheduled first card out.  Ryan and I will be drafting pairings based on who is present or accounted for (known on their way) at that time. 

If a player is late for their start the following will occur:

Alternate shot doubles: A single player cannot alternate with themselves. Thus, the opposition will earn a concession on each hole played, from the team with a missing player, until the missing player arrives.
Best shot doubles: the player with a missing partner will play singles against best shot doubles until missing player arrives.
Singles: The opposition will earn a concession on each hole played, from the missing player, until the missing player arrives.

Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
« on: May 09, 2013, 03:19:38 pm »
Kansas City Flying Disc Club
Team Championship

An annual KCFDC disc golf event to benefit the club and build local camaraderie around a team style competition.
The Event:
A matchplay points accumulation competition of three rounds over two days.  One round of alternate shot doubles (8 mtaches), one round of best shot doubles (8 matches) and one round of singles (16 matches). That means there are 32 points available.  The defending champion can retain the Team Trophy, if they obtain 16 or more points.  The challenger must score 16.5 points or more to take the Team Trophy away from the defending champion.  The winning team will get all their player's names put on the purpetual trophy.
The Players:
Teams will be comprised of 16 players (plus alternates) from their region, Kansas or Missouri, based on residency.  All players must be current KCFDC members and/or active members of the Kansas City area disc golf community. A ~50 mile radius from the conflux of the KS and MO rivers shall be used to determine the approximate region.
  • Each team will have a selected Captain
  • Each team will carry 11 unrestricted players.
  • Additionally, each team must carry at least 3 masters (40+) aged men and at least 2 women.
  • Each team is encouraged to carry up to 4 alternate players.
    • Alternate players may be used to play any round in place of any other player. However,  #2 and #3 must be maintained for the 16 players competing in the round.
    • Substitutions mid-round are not allowed
Host Team:
As an annual event, each side will alternate taking the status of Host Team.  Odd years (2013, 2015, etc.) will be hosted by the Missouri team.  Even years (2014, 2016, etc.) will be hosted by the Kansas team. Host Team status means this:  Choice of course to be played for the two Sunday rounds;  a round of best shot doubles (8 matches) and a round of singles (16 matches).  As such 24 points of the event are competed on the Host Teams home course.  The “guest team” hosts the round of alternate shot doubles on a course of their choice on Saturday.
Captains Responsibilies:
Each team captain will be repsonsible for the formation of his/her team through qualifiers and/or hand picks. The captains will also determine matchups as follows:
Prior to each doubles round, the captains will hold a snake style draft. The “home” team captain has the option to put out the first pairing, or defer, in which case the other captain is obligated to put out the first pairing.  Prior to the singles round the same will happen, except the team with the points lead after the first two rounds will get the option to pick or defer.  If there is a tie in points after the first two rounds, the home team gets the option.
Pairings and matchups are unrestricted.  That is to say, it is not required to put players of the same class together  or against each other.  For example. A master may be paired with an unrestricted player and they may be matched against a women and a master.  It is up to the captain to decide how they want their players paired/matched up.
The Competition:
In this championship, there are 32 matches played. Each match is worth a total of 1 point.  1 point to the winning team and 0 to the losing team or a half point to each team if the match winds up even (a tie). Each round has a different sub-format, but all are matchplay scored. Essentially, each hole is a mini game with one point available.  The team that finsihes the hole in the least strokes wins the hole. It's all or nothing on each hole.  There is no carry over, this is not skins play. Once it becomes mathematically impossible for one to team overcome the other, based on remaining holes (points), the match is over.
The three sub-formats played are as follows:
  • Alternate shot doubles: Start based on order on the card.  Each pairing decides who will drive on the odd holes and who will drive on the even holes.  After the drive, partners alternate shots until the hole is finished or conceded.   Rethrows/retees are done observing the alternating partners rule.
  • Best shot doubles: both players throw drives. Then they determine which of the two shots they want to play from and both throw from that lie. And so forth, until the hole is finished or conceded.
  • Singles: Each player competes 1vs1 playing each hole until it is finished or conceded.
Pairings will be sent off one card at a time from hole one at each round. Each doubles match will have its own card. 2 matches will be sent out on each singles card.
Remember, the defending champion needs only 16 points to retain the trophy. The challenger needs 16.5 points to win the trophy.

Tournaments / 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
« on: October 23, 2012, 04:34:35 pm »
Announcing the second annual Kansas City Team Challenge

Hosting rights will flip flop from East to West each year.  The "Host" team gets 2 rounds (24 points worth of matches) on the course of their captains choice. The other round (8 points worth of matches) is played on the opposing teams turf.  2012 version was slightly different, but allowed a first Host to be determined for this year.  By virtue of their win in 2012, the East side will be the host team for 2013. Host team will alternate each year.  2014 will be West hosted.  2015 will be East hosted etc. 

June 1st and 2nd

Teams of 16 players (plus alternates) from KS. and MO. each to compete in match play of three formats (alternate shot doubles, best shot doubles and singles). Each match will be worth one point. East Side can retain the Eagle trophy with 16 points or more. The West side has to get 16.5 points or more to win the trophy.

Wyco - afternoon of Saturday the June 1st, for 8 alternate shot doubles matches.
Cliff Drive, on Sunday, June 2nd for the 8 best shot doubles matches in the morning and 16 singles matches after lunch.

MO - East Side - Ryan Keck
KS - West Side - Tracy Walker
To be determined!  Possibly a combination of spots obtained via qualifying or captains picks.  I'm leaving it up to the Captain of each side to determine how to build their team. I think we should stick with the 2 Women, 3 Masters (min.) and 11 Open players as required composition of each team.

$25. Unless you already have an official team jersey for your side, in which case it is just $10. $10 to support tree planting at KC area courses.

I'll provide more details as Ryan and I determine how we're going to form our teams.  June will get here sooner than you think.

Tournaments / Re: East vs West Team Championship
« on: September 10, 2012, 04:45:37 pm »
WW - ROUND 1Best Shot Doubles
E - Amanda & Tavish   vs.  W - Minna & Angie   
W - Tank & Loomisvs.  E - Jake B & CD
E - 2up
E -  Caleb W vs.  W - Seth W   
E - 4up
W - Cooper A & Nick W  vs.  E - Jordan H & Scott H   
W - 2up
E - Matt P & Jack   vs.  W - Lee & Scott R   
E - 2up
W - Peter B & Tracy W. vs.  E - Kyle Z & Mike T   
E - Jose O. & Matt C.  vs.  W - Shanan C & Matt E   
W - 4up
W - Leo D & Travis D vs.  E - Eric E & Ryan K   
E - 5up
W - 6
E - 10
Rosey - ROUND 2Singles
W - Matt Eklund   vs.  E - Caleb Walker   
E - 5up
W - Travis Daetwiler  vs.  E - Matt Perry   
E - 1up
W - Leo Daprato  vs.  E - Jose Ossa   
E - 4up
W - Lee Killian  vs.  E - Scott Herring   
E - 3up
W - Tracy Walker   vs.  E - Mike Thomas   
E - 4up
W - Peter Bures   vs.  E - Kyle Zyniewicz   
W - 2up
W - Seth Wolzen  vs.  E - Vince Como   
W - Nick Winkelbauer   vs.  E - Ryan Keck
W - 3up
W -  Shanan Carson  vs.  E - Eric Eastwood 
W - D. Loomis   vs.  E - Jack Lowe   
W - 3up
W - Scott Reek   vs.  E - CD Steiner   
E - 4up
W - Cooper Arnold  vs.  E - Matt Crowe   
W - 7up
W - Arturo Villarreal   vs.  E - Jake Bowen 
E - 1up
W - Tank  vs.  E -  Jordan Hinck   
E - 3up
W - Minna Dennis  vs.  E - Amanda Jackson 
E - 1up
W - Angie Biondo vs.  E - Tavish Carduff 
E - 4up
W - 5
E - 11
W - 11
E - 21

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