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WYCO / Opperators of mowers at Wyco need driving lessons.

« on: May 15, 2013, 09:28:09 AM »

The first mow of the season has begun at Wyco, But they haven't even made it through mowing half of the course without running over yet another pin.  #7 long right was smashed over yesterday by the Wyco gov'ment mowing crew.  Add this to the two pin placements that were run over during the last few mowing sessions of the 2012 season and we have 3 pins currently out of commission thanks to careless mowing.   

Mike Petrin,  can you contact the parks dept and make them aware of the situation.  Also, we need 4 Cashen pins that I'll form a workday to plant.

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Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge

« on: May 15, 2013, 09:13:11 AM »

That's barely two reasons. Barely. 998 to go. Name something good.

Please don't feed encourage the wild life.

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Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge

« on: May 14, 2013, 10:57:52 AM »

Thanks for the layout information, Jack.  I'll post the Wyco layout this weekend, once I have physically set it.  (I am about 90% certain how I want it set up.)

Each of the three rounds will begin by rolling start from hole one.  Jack, your placement in the tee off order will be determined by pairing draft selection. We can work out moving baskets, when the time comes.  There should be enough folks around so that no active player has to haul baskets around during their round.

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Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge

« on: May 13, 2013, 10:27:15 AM »

It is very important to carry sufficient alternates.

One item I forgot to include in the event description/guidelines is regarding player absence and/or withdraw.  If a team can't fill a pairing either with starters or alternates at pairing selection time, that match will be conceded to the opposition. 

In addition, if a player can't complete a round, for any reason, depending on the match format, the following will happen:

• Alternate Shot doubles: The match is conceded to the opposition.
• Best shot doubles: Remaining partner has the option to continue on their own, playing singles (not cali) vs doubles or concede the match to the opposition.
• Singles: The match is conceded to the opposition.

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Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge

« on: May 10, 2013, 11:52:56 AM »

Here are the players that qualified for the West team at Water Works:

Minna Dennis,
Cooper Arnold,
Frank Weaver,
Arturo Villarreal,
Sam Webber,
Das Loomis, ja wohl!

Already qualified at K-U-W
Joe Hesting
Ken "Tank" Franks
Nick Parks
Marc Wisbey
Bobby Villarreal

Captains spot:
Tracy Walker

Captains Picks (confirmed in):
Dick Parker
Shanan Carson
Nick Winkelbauer
Kaylee Kincaid

Alternates:
Bryan Guthrie
Pete Cashen
Peter Bures
Jeff Campbell

My captain's pick woman isn't available.  Know of any Kansas side women interested?

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Water Works / Re: Water Works League - 05/09/2013

« on: May 10, 2013, 09:20:16 AM »

Greg,  thanks for running league and putting up with the added component of double team qualifiers.

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Water Works / Re: Water Works League - 05/09/2013

« on: May 09, 2013, 04:02:05 PM »

yup, and I will be out there a little early.  Probably around 5ish.

Cool. I'll likely not be able to get there 'til after 5:30.

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Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge

« on: May 09, 2013, 03:19:38 PM »

Kansas City Flying Disc Club
Team Championship

 
Purpose:
An annual KCFDC disc golf event to benefit the club and build local camaraderie around a team style competition.
The Event:
A matchplay points accumulation competition of three rounds over two days.  One round of alternate shot doubles (8 mtaches), one round of best shot doubles (8 matches) and one round of singles (16 matches). That means there are 32 points available.  The defending champion can retain the Team Trophy, if they obtain 16 or more points.  The challenger must score 16.5 points or more to take the Team Trophy away from the defending champion.  The winning team will get all their player's names put on the purpetual trophy.
The Players:
Teams will be comprised of 16 players (plus alternates) from their region, Kansas or Missouri, based on residency.  All players must be current KCFDC members and/or active members of the Kansas City area disc golf community. A ~50 mile radius from the conflux of the KS and MO rivers shall be used to determine the approximate region.
 

• Each team will have a selected Captain
• Each team will carry 11 unrestricted players.
• Additionally, each team must carry at least 3 masters (40+) aged men and at least 2 women.
• Each team is encouraged to carry up to 4 alternate players.

• • Alternate players may be used to play any round in place of any other player. However,  #2 and #3 must be maintained for the 16 players competing in the round.
  • Substitutions mid-round are not allowed

Host Team:
As an annual event, each side will alternate taking the status of Host Team.  Odd years (2013, 2015, etc.) will be hosted by the Missouri team.  Even years (2014, 2016, etc.) will be hosted by the Kansas team. Host Team status means this:  Choice of course to be played for the two Sunday rounds;  a round of best shot doubles (8 matches) and a round of singles (16 matches).  As such 24 points of the event are competed on the Host Teams home course.  The “guest team” hosts the round of alternate shot doubles on a course of their choice on Saturday.
Captains Responsibilies:
Each team captain will be repsonsible for the formation of his/her team through qualifiers and/or hand picks. The captains will also determine matchups as follows:
Prior to each doubles round, the captains will hold a snake style draft. The “home” team captain has the option to put out the first pairing, or defer, in which case the other captain is obligated to put out the first pairing.  Prior to the singles round the same will happen, except the team with the points lead after the first two rounds will get the option to pick or defer.  If there is a tie in points after the first two rounds, the home team gets the option.
Pairings and matchups are unrestricted.  That is to say, it is not required to put players of the same class together  or against each other.  For example. A master may be paired with an unrestricted player and they may be matched against a women and a master.  It is up to the captain to decide how they want their players paired/matched up.
The Competition:
In this championship, there are 32 matches played. Each match is worth a total of 1 point.  1 point to the winning team and 0 to the losing team or a half point to each team if the match winds up even (a tie). Each round has a different sub-format, but all are matchplay scored. Essentially, each hole is a mini game with one point available.  The team that finsihes the hole in the least strokes wins the hole. It's all or nothing on each hole.  There is no carry over, this is not skins play. Once it becomes mathematically impossible for one to team overcome the other, based on remaining holes (points), the match is over.
The three sub-formats played are as follows:
 

• Alternate shot doubles: Start based on order on the card.  Each pairing decides who will drive on the odd holes and who will drive on the even holes.  After the drive, partners alternate shots until the hole is finished or conceded.   Rethrows/retees are done observing the alternating partners rule.
• Best shot doubles: both players throw drives. Then they determine which of the two shots they want to play from and both throw from that lie. And so forth, until the hole is finished or conceded.
• Singles: Each player competes 1vs1 playing each hole until it is finished or conceded.

Pairings will be sent off one card at a time from hole one at each round. Each doubles match will have its own card. 2 matches will be sent out on each singles card.
Remember, the defending champion needs only 16 points to retain the trophy. The challenger needs 16.5 points to win the trophy.

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Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge

« on: May 09, 2013, 08:56:31 AM »

Qualifier this evening at Water Works league. Several spots up for grabs on both teams.

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Water Works / Re: What time is league starting on Thursday?

« on: May 08, 2013, 09:27:06 AM »

Water Works league this week is also doubling as the final Team Championship qualifiers for team West and East Side.  Please make sure to let us know during registration where you live; Kansas or Missouri.  Thanks and see you there.

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Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge

« on: May 07, 2013, 11:00:35 AM »

oh i can be late THAT saturday, but a 3pm start would be way cool junior, and can an alternate be inserted mid round?

Alternates must start the round. No mid round substitutions.  Remember it's match play; the match could be determined mid-round.

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Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge

« on: May 07, 2013, 10:32:36 AM »

I am ok with it, but I know that Danger has to work generally by 4 on Saturday's, so it puts him out of it....

He knew that going in.  I told him at Kan-U-Wyco that the Saturday round of the Team Championship would be in the afternoon/evening. Jamie can play both rounds at Cliff. Ryan can sub in an alternate for Jamie at the Wyco round.  I have been saying all along to plan on carrying at least two alternates.  But I have to limit that number to 4. (Trophy space consideration) 

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Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge

« on: May 07, 2013, 10:21:59 AM »

yes

One more reason to keep it were it is.      jk.   Actually it may be smart to move it back some, just in case severe weather is in the forecast. But I won't plan to start it any earlier than 3:00pm that afternoon. 

This year, every round will be rolling start. At Wyco there will only be 2 discs in play on each card (Alternate shot format). So, if first card goes out at 3:00 and one every 5 minutes after that, the last card should easily be done by 6:00pm.  How does that sound?

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Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge

« on: May 07, 2013, 09:15:36 AM »

Saturday, June 1st, 5:20 (first card) at Wyco for alternate shot doubles.

5:20?

Yes Sir. That's 5:20PM, in case anyone thought I was nuts enough to call for an AM start in the dark.  Do you all feel that is too late?

Adjusted to 3:00PM start on Saturday June 1st.

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Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge

« on: May 06, 2013, 10:56:12 AM »

Then let's have the west side qualifier at Cliff or Wyco.

We already had one at Wyco. I understand the logic of qualifying at the courses for the event. But, I just don't think we'll get the attendance I'm looking for by going out to Cliff.  WW is a challenging course and the league there is widely attended.  It will work fine.  I hope you and Minna will be able to make it.