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Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2016--June 18th and 19th Location TBD
« on: June 20, 2016, 01:21:56 PM »
Statistically, west side seems to have an edge winning four consecutive times.I'll do my research to support my theory next.

No need to dig.  I think Jose's point is that west side has a greater number of quality players than east side.  But that's the entire basis of this competition; Which side is better.  Then which side can bring their best game on Challenge weekend.  Jose appears to get bitter in defeat because he is a passionate competitor.   

Despite our differences in opinion around the Team Challenge, I personal enjoy seeing Jose's name consistently high up in tourney results against the best in country. And now with the Challenge over, I can go back to rooting for him again. 

West Side would love nothing more than to have East Side bring their "Be All End All" team. 

It won't matter.

Looks like lightning and rain this evening -- hopefully not.

It looks like the storm will push on through by 6:00.  Maybe a slightly delayed start, but get out and battle for a spot on the Best Side.

Tournaments / Re: 2016 Kansas City Wide Open - May 6-8, 2016
« on: May 07, 2016, 07:38:28 PM »
Must be a sworn to secrecy KCWO SECRET then. ;)

- a KCWO embroidered wind/rain performance pullover jacket.
- a $68 voucher for Go Ape (apparently good for 4 hours of zip line adventure there in Swope Park)
- a DD Evidence
- a Gateway Warlock
- a Makani (new super class disc)
- a wide open bag tag (doubled as entry into raffle prize drawings)
- an individually personalized leather tag
- a New Belgium beer bottle opener
- a sock like beer bottle koozie
- a rubber beer bottle koozie
- a half dozen stickers from various vendors
- a tube of lip balm
- additionally, a long sleeve KCWO shirt

So, if you enter events for the stuff, and didn't enter this one, you missed out, imo.

Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2016--June 18th and 19th Location TBD
« on: April 26, 2016, 04:19:00 PM »

To be fair, I can't think

...end quote

the misguided power of removing things from context.  :P

Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2016--June 18th and 19th Location TBD
« on: April 26, 2016, 03:50:32 PM »
Jack is correct,  the concept of "starters" doesn't apply here.  The 16 players selected from the pool of available players (up to 21) for each team for a round comprise each team's squad for the current round.  None of those players can be substituted out, during the current competitive round, like in sports with a traditional "starting" line up. 

That said, each captain is free to favor players that made the team via qualifiers over captains picks, or not, based on player availability, situational strategy, or whatever.

WYCO / 2016 Wyco League Fridays
« on: April 18, 2016, 12:39:45 PM »
Beckett said he would be posting info.   Maybe he meant on facebook or something.  But FYI, Wyco league is at 6:00pm every Friday. Be signed up by ~5:50.  There is an optional $5 side pot that will pay out the top third of the group that opts in.  This side pot is in addition to the usual league entry/payout structure.

Leagues / Re: 2016 Regular league Season
« on: April 06, 2016, 11:01:14 AM »
Ok, Cade, Utz, and Kujo confirmed. This little table is correct.

Status League Cost    w/Ace pool  w/PDGA    w/Ace pool & w/PDGA   
Club Member  $4 $5 $5 $6
Not Club Member      $5 $6 $6 $7

Note: Status of membership is based on currently paid up dues or not.

Leagues / Re: 2016 Regular league Season
« on: April 06, 2016, 09:27:47 AM »
From Cade's schedule there, league entry went up a dollar?  Last year, 1$ to club, $3 to payout, plus $1 to optional ace fund and $1 if you aren't a club member.  From Cade's post league is $5, I assume $1 to club $4 to payout.  Or is he assuming every entry will elect to pay into ace fund?

Is Cade's post a typo?  If not, where can the "paper trail" for increasing league fees be found.  I looked at recent board minutes and didn't see anything about increase in league fees.

I'm guessing it's just a misunderstanding how to advertise:

If it's like last year and no increase has been approved and we assume you're a club member, then league breaks down as follows.

League Cost is $4 (1$ goes to the club and $3 go into the payout pool)
non-club members pay $1 extra, which goes to the club
plus optional $1 ace pot entry
plus optional $1 PDGA (even if it's a PDGA league, you're not required to participate in that, 50 cents to PDGA and 50 cents to the club, right?)

General Banter / Re: Distance Record Smashed...Again!
« on: March 29, 2016, 12:08:50 PM »
I've no proof for this assertion, but I believe that there is incredible skill to be able to project the disc high enough to take advantage of the wind, and of course, angling the disc optimally for massive distance. I would hazard a guess that the same guys and gals who are setting records would hold the records in an indoor setting, if and when we can find a venue for this.  While I believe that Tracy's "hurricane" scenario makes some sense, I will continue to argue that just not anyone can throw a disc far in high winds.

The official word now is the wind was closer to 40MPH, and disc weighed in at 154.

Absolutely, it takes skill to throw for distance down wind.  But the end result is still not a true measure of human performance. (note: there are indoor records that can be found from links in the original article, apparently someone threw inside an aircraft carrier.   8) )  But we don't need indoor, completely windless competition.  Outdoor records set under a certain allowable wind speed could be done.   But I guess that won't happen 'til that 100mph+ wind competition, where as Stork pointed out to get maximum distance the competitors would actually angle their throw up "into" the wind, occurs and sets the "event" unbreakable.  Or start doing proper wind limited measuring now and be able to track record progression for as long as there is disc golf discs.  The wind aided measurement actually does the big bombers disservice.  I want to know who can actually throw farthest, not who is the luckiest one to get a great wind gust. Don't you think they do too?

General Banter / Re: Distance Record Smashed...Again!
« on: March 28, 2016, 03:30:07 PM »
I wonder what the legitimate record might be? (with wind under, say, 5mph)  Somewhere under 700ft, 600ft?   

The eventual problem with the wind aided system is that at some point, a competition, somewhere, is going to get into a situation where 1100ft will be silly short.  And from then on the record will stand as an unbreakable "event."   Like the MTA toss in 1984 mentioned by Stork in the article   

It's much more interesting to figure out and maintain a wind speed threshold system so that we can see the true distance record and a progression of it based on improved skill and technology over time.  It would not be as difficult to manage as Stork would have you believe.

General Banter / Re: Distance Record Smashed...Again!
« on: March 28, 2016, 02:46:22 PM »
Apparently, Simon Lizotte's distance record of 903 feet, set on Saturday, has been pulverized today by David Wiggins, who reportedly threw a 150-gram R Pro Boss 1,109 feet. WTF?  As the wind may have been howling at close to 60 MPH (on the ground), the naysayers will be back in force.

saying nay!  Sports that legitimately track human efforts of throwing objects have windspeed thresholds to keep the record fair. 

Here's the thing with disc golf disc tossing records.  Someone will eventually put on and event in an area that "can" get hurricanes.  They will regularly schedule the event at that location during the hurricane season.  Then one year, there will actually be a hurricane during the event and the new disc golf disc distance record will be truly obliterated.  Ok, yes that is an extreme case.  But it goes to show how non-legitimate the current records are when wind aided tosses are allowed.  You don't even have to wait for a hurricane, there are many know extremely windy places on the planet that someone wishing to claim the record could simply schedule an event at.

It's cool that a disc remain aloft for over 1100 feet.  But it's natures record, not David Wiggins'.

WYCO / Re: work at Wyco
« on: March 08, 2016, 08:49:09 AM »
Fantastic stuff out there JP3 and L.O.F.T.!

I had an opportunity to play Wyco this past weekend.  Great improvements for erosion control. The crushed asphalt around tees and benches will really help those areas from degrading further.  Nice to see hole #4 in the woods playable again.  Well done on the stairs down to the pin there.  #7 short is a more inviting hole now with the log-cut framed in mulched green. Framed up and asphalt filled step off of #8 tee was also much needed. Mulch on #11 right will be very helpful for those hot incoming up shots. Not sure how long the mulch off the tee on #18 will stick around, as that is a major wash out area. But it will be good for this weekends event for sure.

Thank you John and Mark for getting those improvement projects done!

p.s. Reminder to others reading this, please pick up fallen branches and larger sticks during your casual rounds. Set them by the road, anywhere along the hole, and the Parks Dept. will haul it away.  It's a simple effort that doesn't take anything away from your game. It really does help keep the course aesthetically pleasing, safer and more enjoyable to play.

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