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Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2016--June 18th and 19th Location TBD
« on: February 10, 2016, 02:35:33 PM »
The gender, women, is the interest group, :) at 51% (W) vs 49% (M).  But in context of the disc golf community, JoeT is correct. At 8% of PDGA members, women are a special interest group.  I personally hope that percentage continues to climb, because it is sadly low.  Just curious Jack, what are the club membership numbers for women?

In January, when the 2016 event came onto our radar, Jack reached out to me for my opinion about adding women back into the mix.  The crux of my statement to him, Joe H and Zeke was that I don't think any particular group should be entitled to spots on the teams.  I continued that if the captains and TD felt there are enough women truly interested, in the event, that each side would have several players battling for spots, then and only then should they consider adding women back to the fold.  I believe Joe's proposal that spots must be earned by qualifying against others, that those spots are not just handed out to fill a roster requirement, reflects that opinion.

Do I think masters or older men will stop playing disc golf because they are not guaranteed spots on a team?  No.
Do I think the population growth of women's disc golf in the area will cease if they are not guaranteed spots in the KCTC?  No.
Do I think including women in the KCTC is the right thing to do under the right circumstances? Yes.

That all said, Nova, it's club members like you, that put in many hours of their own time to help with club activities.  Those that make the club and its events the successes they are, in my opinion, are the only ones deserving of special consideration for spots in the KCTC.  (another KevMo exception reference.) 

Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2016--June 18th and 19th Location TBD
« on: February 10, 2016, 10:09:27 AM »
Just for the record, this event did not start as "the best of the best". It has become an elitist event. Having to play in PDGA rounds to qualify for a local club event is ridiculous IMO. We should have spots for over 50 players and over 60 players. Without them, we wouldn't have the KCFDC. On the shoulders of giants, standing we are. Let's act like it.

E, yes, it is an elitist (that's not a bad word)  event. It was fully intended to be the best of the best, from the beginning. First proposed and organized as best of open, best of masters and best of women.  The Kansas City Team Challenge (that's the correct name of the event), is the only elitist event in the area. There are a plethora of events either directly club hosted or held on club courses that are come one come all.   Take away the elitism, of the KCTC and it just becomes another of many events catering to the masses.  The event would then lose its prestige and luster and eventually just fade away, because there is no prize money or coveted players pack to lure players.

You don't "have" to play in a PDGA event to qualify for this. In fact, there are rules restricting how many players can be pulled from PDGA sanctioned events.  All the other spots on each team come from non-PDGA events. If the spots for the women come from the Diva Feeva, that is probably the right call. As the best of the best women from our area really should be playing in that event.

If we want to recognize, in some way, the giants of our community, in association with this event.  Offer them a Captain spot (player or not).  Not unlike the Ryder Cup does or the NFL Pro Bowl does.   If their team wins, their name will go on the trophy, with the players, to be honored for all time. 

Leagues / Re: 2016 Regular league Season
« on: January 05, 2016, 04:19:43 PM »

WyCo--Looking for help running it this year again, Beckett has stated he will do quite a bit, but looking for those that will help when he can't
Beckett would be great running this league and after the first couple of leagues he will have the backup he needs, and I believe Mark said he would step in from time to time to cover a league night.


I told Mark, at the end of 2015 league season, that I would be willing to help part time, in 2016,  as well. We should be good to continue the tradition of Friday league at Wyco.


Last minute decision, may or may not come out.  But if I do, where is everyone parking?  The little lot for the course certainly isn't big enough. Overflow at Hog Holler?



WYCO / Re: Last league of the year
« on: September 25, 2015, 09:39:31 AM »
Cloud cover is likely to linger, particularly to the West, blocking the setting sunlight.  Daylight will fade fast.  That said, bring a glow light or two, just in case, for the last few holes this evening.  I'll dig up some extras.

General Banter / Re: Why I don't go to Wyco league
« on: July 13, 2015, 10:03:32 AM »
Mark, I've just been busy with other things.  Life happens.  Anyway, I'll most likely be there this Friday.

Huge THANK YOU to the Kansas City Wide Open Tournament Director, Dick Parker, for all his volunteer hours to make this, the highest attended, world class event, KCWO ever.  WELL DONE, Sir!!! 

Swope / Re: Swope League 2015
« on: June 12, 2015, 11:36:20 AM »
Don't mean to dowse the fire of excitement for gold layout next Tuesday.  But... there is little chance all the rope/string OB will be setup in time for league, if they are waiting on a fresh mow Monday, instead of setting it up this weekend. It could happen if Chris pre-flags the OB right after the mow, has several volunteers helping and they plan on working on it Monday evening and Tuesday afternoon.  Gold pin layout will be there. It just won't have all the added OB.

Barter Town / Re: Ranger or Grip Bag Wanted
« on: June 12, 2015, 10:57:36 AM »

Better yet.

No Lat64CAMO?  It's the KCWIDEOPEN for goodness sake.  Since the players pack may be of less subsistance compared to DD GBO, ante~ up!!!

Better yet, rather than playing disc golf tournaments for the stuff, don't. 

Instead of getting what an event organizer chooses to hand out to you, for your entry fee, go to the disc golf retailers and buy the stuff directly from them.  You'll get exactly what you want and will actually save money doing so.

General Banter / Re: Cicadas
« on: June 08, 2015, 12:21:05 PM »
The 13 year ones seems to be the ones making the buzzing sound.  It's the 17 year ones with the insanely loud weEEEEEEEEEOOoo:

Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2015
« on: June 08, 2015, 09:57:14 AM »
I like the idea of changing the Saturday Round next year to Best Shot Doubles.  That way you get to play a full round on day one, and it leaves the quicker Alt. Shot Round for Day 2, when you are playing 2 rounds on the same day.  If nobody has any objections, then the East side can host Best shot Doubles next year on Saturday.

After listening to the reasoning for this proposed change, I think it's the right move, as well.  It really would make the event flow smoother and be less time constrained on Sunday. Officially, we should allow the 2016 Captains and next year's event director make the final call for that change. 

That said, I am passing the reigns of the Team Challenge over to the club. The KCFCD BoD will select an event director each year going forward.  I will be posting a list of responsibilities for the TD before 2016.  It really isn't a difficult event to run.  So if you're interested in running the Team Challenge, please let someone on the BoD know.

Thanks to all of you that have embraced the Team Challenge and elevated it to an annually anticipated event of friendly but fierce competition.



Tournaments / Kansas City Team Challenge - 2015 Final results
« on: June 07, 2015, 06:28:53 PM »
West Side wins their 3rd Kansas City Team Challenge in a row in a well fought battle with the East Side, who clawed their way back into contention during the Sunday matches.

Best Shot Doubles:
1 - (W) Chris N. / Justin S. vs(E) CD S. / Ryan K.A/S
2 - (W) Peter B. / Isaac H.over(E) Zeke H. / Anthony M.3&2
3 - (E) Mike T. / Jake B.over(W) Tracy W. / Steve T.3&1
4 - (E) Frank W. / Jamie B.over(W) Arturo V. / Kelly B.3&1
5 - (E) Shanan C. / Dave V.over(W) Marc W. / Pete C.3&2
6 - (W) D. Loomis. / Justin A-T.over(E) Jay C. / Kevin W3&2
7 - (W) Bobby V. / Dick P.over(E) Greg U. / Steve D.2&1
8 - (E) Jose O. / Bowen S.over(W) Joe H. / Cooper A.1up
West - 3.5  vs   East - 4.5

1 - (E) Ryan K.over(W) Pete C.3&2
2 - (E) Anthony M.over(W) Steve T.3&2
3 - (E) Mike T. vs(W) Bryan G.A/S
4 - (W) Lee K.over(E) Zeke H.8&6
5 - (E) Frank W.over(W) Cooper A.1up
6 - (E) CD S.over(W) Justin S.1up
7 - (E) Dave V.over(W) Chris N.8&6
8 - (E) Shanan C.over(W) Kelly B.5&3
9 - (W) Isaac H. vs(E) Bowen S.A/S
10 - (W) Bobby V.over(E) Jake B.7&5
11 - (W) D. Loomisvs(E) Jose O.A/S
12 - (W) Dick P.over(E) Jamie L.5&4
13 - (W) Arturo V.over(E) Greg U.4&3
14 - (E) Travis C.over(W) Tracy W.4&3
15 - (W) Joe H.over(E) Matt C.3&2
16 - (E) Steve D. vs(W) Just A-T.A/S
West - 7.0  vs   East - 9.0

West - 16.5  over   East - 15.5

Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2015
« on: June 06, 2015, 03:07:02 PM »
Rained heavy prior to the round. But by start time the rain had stopped and weather was excellent for the first round of the Kansas City Team Challenge. 

Anthony Martella had the shot of the day on hole #1 (10th hole of this match) by bombing in his teams 2nd shot from near the pond for a 2 to win the hole.

Results of round 1:

1 - (W) Bobby V. / Kevin Z. over(E) Dave V. / Jamie B.5&3
2 - (W) Peter B. / Justin S.over(E) Jamie L. / Bowen S.1up
3 - (E) Ryan K. / CD S.over(W) Kelly B. / Pete C.3&2
4 - (W) Joe H. / Justin  A-T.over(E) Zeke H. / Anthony M.3&2
5 - (W) Chris N. / Nick W.over(E) Frank W. /Greg U.1 up
6 - (W) Isaac H. / Bryan G.over(E) Matt C. / Jose O.4&3
7 - (E) Mike T. / Jake B.over(W) Arturo V. /Cooper A.  3&1
8 - (W) D. Loomis. / Marc W.over(E) Shanan C. / Travis C.5&4
West - 6  vs   East - 2

Tournaments / Kansas City Team Challenge - 2015
« on: June 01, 2015, 09:45:32 AM »
The annually anticipated Kansas City Team Challenge is once again upon us!  Schedule of all match play rounds as follows:

Saturday, June 6th, hosted by the Kansas Side at Lakeside Hills, Olathe.
Format: Alternate Shot doubles - pairing draft at 9:30am.  The 1st card of rolling start to tee off by 10:00am.

Sunday, June 7th, hosted by the Missouri Side at Stocksdale Park,  Liberty. 
Morning round format: Best Shot doubles - pairing draft at 9:00am.  The 1st card of rolling start to tee off by 9:30am.
Afternoon round format:  Singles -  pairing draft will begin approximately one hour after final card of morning round is complete. 1st card of rolling start to begin 30 minutes after draft start.

Captains Steve and Joe, please bring print outs (at least 16 copies) describing any and all OB's and special rules to be played on your hosted course.

WYCO / Re: league on tonight, 5/29/15?
« on: May 29, 2015, 12:54:48 PM »
I missed last week because of an emergency.  I'll miss this week for my sons soccer game.  Probably won't be there next week either; in preparation for the Team Challenge.

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