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Rosedale / Re: Hole #1 looks beautiful!
« on: June 15, 2014, 02:47:13 pm »
The only one I know involved for certain was Tink, he said he helped spread mulch but lotsa love to whoever put in the 4x4's and rebar.

John Park did the 4x4 work. At 60 something, he's been a strong work horse at Wyco too.  If you see the guy on a course doing work, shake his hand and tell him you appreciate what he's doing for our courses.

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Tournaments / Re: 2014 Team Challenge
« on: June 08, 2014, 07:40:12 pm »
Thank you to those that came out to watch and to all the participants that supported this years event.  We raised $370 toward the KCFDC Tree Love Fund.  :)

Results of Round 3 - Singles

1 - (W) Lee Killianover(E) Eric Eastwood1up
2 - (W) Justin Atwater-Taylor  over(E) Jose Ossa2&1
3 - (E) Steve Dresserover(W) Frank Weaver5&3
4 - (W) Bobby Villarrealover(E) David Valdiviez4&3
5 - (W) Tom Butlerover(E) Tony Burnett4&3
6 - (W) Steve Thimmeschover(E) Jacob Hinck8&7
7 - (E) Matt Croweover(W) Beckett Carduff2&1
8 - (E) Ken Franksover(W) Dick Parker2&1
9 - (W) Jon Thomasover(E) Zeke Henry4&3
10 - (E) Jake Bowenover(W) Joe Hesting3&2
11 - (E) Matt Perryover(W) Mark Albers6&5
12 - (W) Bryan Guthrieover(E) CD Steiner1up
13 - (E) Tyler Mattoonover(W) Jeff Campbell3&1
14 - (W) Peter Buresvs(E) Kevin ManningA/S
15 - (E) Adam Johnsonover(W) Kevin Zane4&2
16 - (W) Arturo Villarrealover(E) Mike Thomas1up
      Final Score
    West - 18 over East 14

West Side, Captained by Joe Hesting, wins the 2014 Kansas City Team Challenge!

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Tournaments / Re: 2014 Team Challenge
« on: June 08, 2014, 07:16:35 pm »
Results of Round 2 - Best Shot Doubles

1 - (E) Matt P. / Adam J over(W) Mark A. / Steve T.4&3
2 - (E) Mike T. / Jamie B.over(W) Frank  W. / Tom B.2&1
3 - (W) Beckett C. / Justin A-T.over(E) Jacob H. Matt C.2&1
4 - (W) Dick P. / Bobby V.over(E) Steve D. / Dave V.1up
5 - (W) Arturo V. / Kevine Z.over(E) Billy N. Zeke H.5&4
6 - (E) CD / Tony B.over(W) Lee K. / Bryan G.4&3
7 - (W) Joe H. / Peter B.over(E) Ken F. / Eric E.2&1
8 - (E) Jose O. / Jake B.over(W) Jon T. / Mike D.3&2
Score after 2 rounds
    West - 9.5 vs East 6.5

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Tournaments / Re: 2014 Team Challenge
« on: June 07, 2014, 03:22:32 pm »
Results of Round 1 - Alternate Shot Doubles

1 - (W) Bryan G. / Justin A-T. over(E) Mike T. / Jamie B.2&1
2 - (W) Dick P. / Tom B.over(E) Kevin M. / Zeke H.1up
3 - (W) Beckett C. / Mike D.over(E) Matt P. / Billy N.3&2
4 - (E) Dave V. / Steve D.over(W) Lee K. / Nick A.2&1
5 - (W) Jon T. / Steve T.over(E) Scott M. / Matt C.1 up
6 - (E) Tyler M. / Jacob H.vs(W) Jeff C. / Mark A.A/S
7 - (E) Jose O. / Jake B.over(W) Arturo V. / Frank W.  5&4
8 - (W) Joe H. / Kevin Z.over(E) CD / Tony B.3&2
        SCORE
West - 5.5 vs East 2.5


Second Round, Best Shot Doubles, rolling start begins at 10:00am from hole 1 at Lakeside Hills, Olathe.  Players, please be there by 9:20-9:30am. Captains will begin match-up selection draft at 9:40am.

3rd round, Singles, will begin about 1 hour after the last 2nd round match is complete.

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Tournaments / Re: 2014 Team Challenge
« on: May 18, 2014, 09:38:14 pm »
For the record, from a personal message I sent to both Dick and Jose in early March, here is the exact question to Jose's answer:

3) Do you want to discuss any major changes to the format?  The event is still young and finding its way.  I would like to suggest dropping the class restrictions; that is, all player spots are Open, no Masters age or Women required (though you can carry them if you wish).  I suggest this because, a) we have plenty of very good masters age players that will make each team by default.  b) the women's interest in this event has been sadly low.


3.  I am for non-divisional play.  All open.


I don't see any thing in my question that made it unclear about my intention to remove the women's division requirement.

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Tournaments / Re: 2014 Team Challenge
« on: May 18, 2014, 09:10:06 pm »
The allegiance amendment proposal has been dropped. You must live on the side you play for.

This is a fundraising event with each participants $10 donation going towards course tree planting projects.

Each team will field 16-20 players.  It is an Open, or if that term is somehow confusing, an unrestricted, event now.  There are no classification requirements or restrictions. Everyone keeps saying "keep it simple."  This is as simple as it gets and was decided upon months ago.

There are but a handful of competitive women disc golfers in the area.  Forcing women representation on each team at 10-12.5% of the team is terribly disproportionate to the actual population of competitive players in the KC area.  I hope someday, the women's competitive disc golf population becomes as vibrant as the men's is.  When that happens, perhaps a women's Team Challenge can be organized. I do truly hope so because the women disc golfers around here are all amazing people.

Now for the real account of what happened:
As I posted months ago in this thread, it was all along my plan to eventually make this event player unrestricted, including not having a women requirement.  I felt that this year was as good as any to make that change. I first spoke with Dick about the change. He initially said he wanted to keep the women specifically. After some convincing on the phone, I got him to agree with whatever East side would agree to.  I think he figured East side would not agree to a pure unrestricted format.  I then communicated with Jose that I wanted to change the event to an all open format.  And he agreed to it. I specifically stated that this also meant no women required. Jose was ok with that; agreeing with me that it was right to have the best on each side playing, not restricted by classification.. I was actually quite surprised, but also glad he approved the change to unrestricted play, because that is what I envisioned all along. Jose, you had the opportunity to disapprove of this then, but did not. To support the fact that what I just stated is what was agreed upon, consider the following: We proceeded with qualifiers, this year, without a requirement for women because that was the change that was enacted.  Otherwise, I would have made sure the captains had at least one woman make each team via qualifier as we had done in the past.

The change to an unrestricted format for the Team Challenge was finalized months ago. Qualifiers were held in accordance with the agreed upon change.  That's it. That simple. That said, either team may carry anyone they want to fill their roster.  There are no longer any classification requirements for the KCFDC Team Challenge. If a side wants to bring more or less masters than the other side, they are welcome to. If a side wants to bring more or less women than the other side, they are welcome to, same for juniors, legends, toddlers.  whatever, it's UNRESTRICTED.  Go Team Challenge!

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Cliff Drive / Re: 5/5 League
« on: May 16, 2014, 03:29:11 pm »
jimbo, jose, do either of you have the official results from this?

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Cliff Drive / Re: 5/5 League
« on: May 15, 2014, 08:16:17 am »
Who has the complete results?  Please post them.

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Lakeside Hills / Re: 05-12-14 BIRDLAND MINI
« on: May 13, 2014, 07:33:18 am »
Top 5 plus ties made it on to the West Side team:

Peter Bures
Kevin Zane
Mark Albers
Frank Weaver
Lee Killian
Bryan Guthrie

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Cliff Drive / Re: 5/5 League
« on: May 12, 2014, 01:22:58 pm »
Still waiting on the complete set of results.

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Cliff Drive / Re: 5/5 League
« on: May 08, 2014, 10:02:17 am »
Steve Dresser is in Mo, right?  Anyway, we'll need the full results to determine who got the remaining spots on team East Side.

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General Banter / Re: Baggin' it up at Bowling Green?
« on: May 07, 2014, 09:35:07 am »
That only refers to Major events. Once you take cash in a Pro division you can not play Major Am events. So no Pro Am Worlds basically. Other than that, as long as your rating is low enough, you can play all the Am events you want.


see http://www.pdga.com/rules/competition-manual/section-2-division-qualifications/23-reclassification

An Amateur player is automatically re-classified as Professional when the player has accepted cash while competing in a Professional division. Accepting prizes in lieu of cash payout or accepting money for winning an ancillary contest such as an ace pool, top-of-the-card round prize, or CTP contest does not cause a player to relinquish his or her amateur status.

As far as Tom and that $40 in Pro goes, you'd have to ask him if he accepted cash or prizes there.  I'd hazard to guess it was prizes as he is quite aware of the rules around Pro vs Am classification.

You may not Play in AM Majors as a "Pro Playing as AM" per http://www.pdga.com/files/2014%20PDGA%20Tour%20Standards.pdf

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Cliff Drive / Re: 5/5 League
« on: May 07, 2014, 08:48:30 am »
indeed blue valley tonight... matt started a new job and wont be able to be there so for this time I'll be filling in...

jimbo, please post the results here.  With this being a Team Challenge qualifying event for the East Side, we're kind of in the need to know who got the spots.  Thanks.

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Tournaments / Re: 2014 Team Challenge
« on: February 22, 2014, 02:51:22 pm »
East Side, have you figured out who your captain will be for 2014?  If you can't come to agreement amongst yourselves, by the end of the month, I will just ask for volunteers. 

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