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Cliff Drive / Re: 5/5 League
« on: May 15, 2014, 08:16:17 AM »
Who has the complete results?  Please post them.

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Lakeside Hills / Re: 05-12-14 BIRDLAND MINI
« on: May 13, 2014, 07:33:18 AM »
Top 5 plus ties made it on to the West Side team:

Peter Bures
Kevin Zane
Mark Albers
Frank Weaver
Lee Killian
Bryan Guthrie

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Cliff Drive / Re: 5/5 League
« on: May 12, 2014, 01:22:58 PM »
Still waiting on the complete set of results.

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Cliff Drive / Re: 5/5 League
« on: May 08, 2014, 10:02:17 AM »
Steve Dresser is in Mo, right?  Anyway, we'll need the full results to determine who got the remaining spots on team East Side.

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General Banter / Re: Baggin' it up at Bowling Green?
« on: May 07, 2014, 09:35:07 AM »
That only refers to Major events. Once you take cash in a Pro division you can not play Major Am events. So no Pro Am Worlds basically. Other than that, as long as your rating is low enough, you can play all the Am events you want.


see http://www.pdga.com/rules/competition-manual/section-2-division-qualifications/23-reclassification

An Amateur player is automatically re-classified as Professional when the player has accepted cash while competing in a Professional division. Accepting prizes in lieu of cash payout or accepting money for winning an ancillary contest such as an ace pool, top-of-the-card round prize, or CTP contest does not cause a player to relinquish his or her amateur status.

As far as Tom and that $40 in Pro goes, you'd have to ask him if he accepted cash or prizes there.  I'd hazard to guess it was prizes as he is quite aware of the rules around Pro vs Am classification.

You may not Play in AM Majors as a "Pro Playing as AM" per http://www.pdga.com/files/2014%20PDGA%20Tour%20Standards.pdf

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Cliff Drive / Re: 5/5 League
« on: May 07, 2014, 08:48:30 AM »
indeed blue valley tonight... matt started a new job and wont be able to be there so for this time I'll be filling in...

jimbo, please post the results here.  With this being a Team Challenge qualifying event for the East Side, we're kind of in the need to know who got the spots.  Thanks.

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Tournaments / Re: 2014 Team Challenge
« on: February 22, 2014, 02:51:22 PM »
East Side, have you figured out who your captain will be for 2014?  If you can't come to agreement amongst yourselves, by the end of the month, I will just ask for volunteers. 

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Tournaments / Re: 2014 Team Challenge
« on: February 09, 2014, 12:56:43 PM »
If any changes to player classification restrictions were to be made, at this point, it would be to remove them altogether.  I feel that is the direction this event should take. Even now, there are enough players in the area to create Amateur only and/or Masters only versions of this event.  There are probably not enough interested women or juniors to have dedicated events of this type for each. Growth of the sport in the area should eventually change that.

That said, once the East Side confirms who their Captain is, I'll discuss changes, if any, that the Captains would like to make and can agree to for 2014.

P.S. Jamie will be heading up barefooters only subjectively judged version at some future date.  :D

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Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
« on: June 02, 2013, 08:31:46 PM »
Official results for the 3rd round of the 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge

Course: Cliff Drive
Format: Matchplay singles
Match 1: East (1) - Tavish Carduff over Kaylee Kincaid - 7&6
Match 2: East (1) - Amanda Jackson over Minna Dennis - 4&3
Match 3: All Square (.5 each) - Nick Winkelbauer vs Ryan Keck
Match 4: West (1) - Frank Weaver over Eric Kolkmeier - 1up
Match 5: West (1) - Bryan Guthrie over Jamie Barry - 3&2
Match 6:  East (1) - Dave Valdiviez over Dick Parker - 1up
Match 7: West (1) - Jeff Campbell over Zeke Henry - 6&5
Match 8: West (1)- Shanan Carson over Fred Smith - 3&2
Match 9: All Square (.5 each) - Cooper Arnold vs Jose Ossa
Match 10: East (1) - Eric Eastwood over Sam Webber 2&1
Match 11: All Square (.5 each) - Bobby Villarreal vs Caleb Walker
Match 12: All Square (.5 each) - Mike Thomas vs D. Loomis
Match 13: West (1) - Joe Hesting over Matt Perry 1up
Match 14: East (1) - CD Steiner over Tracy Walker 3&2
Match 15: All Square (.5 each) - Arturo Villarreal vs Jake Bowen
Match 16: West (1) - Ken Franks over Kevin Manning - 3&2

The white board scoreboard showed West wins 16.5 to East 16.  Does anybody see the math mistake here?

There are only 32 points available, not 32.5. Scoring got messed up along the way and the silly organizer didn't bother checking 'til before leaving the park this evening.  East earned 7.5 points in the 3rd round, Team West earned 8.5 points.

Official tally:
West 16.5
East 15.5

Congratulations to the West! Well done to the East for battling back to make it close.  Thank you out to everyone that supported the event by playing and or watching.

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Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
« on: June 02, 2013, 08:01:54 PM »
There was a mistake in the scoring. I'll get to that a bit later.

Official results for the 2nd round of the 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge

Course: Cliff Drive
Format: Matchplay best shot doubles
Card 1: East (1) - Amanda Jackson and Tavish Carduff over Kaylee Kincaid and Minna Dennis - 3&1
Card 2: East (1) - Jose Ossa and Mike Thomas over Sam & Cooper - 7&5
Card 3: East (1) - Jamie Barry and Caleb walker over Nick Parks and Bryan Guthrie - 3&2
Card 4: East (1) - Matt Perry and Kevin Manning over Joe Hesting and Mike Davis - 3&2
Card 5: West (1) - Bobby Villarreal and Dick Parker over Dave Valdiviez and Ryan Keck - 1up
Card 6: East (1) - Zeke Henry and Eric Eastwood over Frank Weaver and Nick Winkelbauer - 6&4
Card 7: East (1) - Jake Bowen and CD Steiner over Arturo Villarreal and D. Loomis - 2&1
Card 8: West (1) - Ken Franks and Shanan Carson over Erik Kolkmeier and Jack Lowe - 6&4

After two rounds
West: 8
East: 8

16 match points still remain to be battled for.  Team West needs 8.5 points to win the championship.  East Side needs 8 points to retain the trophy. Matchplay singles to be played after lunch.

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Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
« on: June 01, 2013, 10:10:51 PM »
Sorry for the late update. I was shuffled off to a neighborhood BBQ the moment I got home from the course. 

Official results for the 1st round of the 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge

Course: Wyco
Format: Matchplay alternate shot doubles
Card 1: West (1) - Joe Hesting and Cooper Arnold over East - Jose Ossa and Eric Kolkmeier - 4&3
Card 2: East (1) - Amanda Jackson and Tavish Carduff over Kaylee Kincaid and Minna Dennis - 3&1
Card 3: West (1) - Ken Franks and Shanan Carson over Jake Bowen and Zeke Henry - 1up
Card 4: West (1) - Frank Weaver and Nick Parks over Eric Eastwood and Dave Valdiviez - 3&1
Card 5: West (1) - Marc Wisbey and Dick Parker over Fred Smith and Ryan Keck - 5&4
Card 6: East (1) - Mike Thomas and Jamie Barry over Pete Cashen and Nick Winkelbauer - 3&1
Card 7: West (1) - Arturo Villarreal and Sam Webber over CD Steiner and Kevin Manning - 4&3
Card 8: West (1) - D Loomis and Bobby Villarreal over Caleb Walker and Jack Lowe - 3&2

West: 6
East: 2

24 match points still remain to be battled for.  Team West needs 10.5 points to win the championship.  East Side needs 14 points to retain the trophy.

2nd round at Cliff Drive will start at 9:30.Please be there no later than 9:00 for head count.  Format will be matchplay best shot doubles. East side has the option on first pick in the pairing process to select or defer.

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Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
« on: May 29, 2013, 11:05:02 AM »
Never mind what Jack said. He's talking about some event that has never existed.

The Kansas City Team Challenge for 2013:

Round 1: 8 matches of alternate shot doubles at Wyco. Rolling start with 1st card at 3:00pm, Sat. June 1st
Round 2: 8 matches of best shot doubles at Cliff Drive. Rolling start with 1st card at 9:30am, Sun. June 2nd
Round 3: 16 matches of singles at Cliff Drive. Rolling start with 1st card out at TBD, Sun. June 2nd (at least an hour after last card from first round is done)


For team members: Everyone should be at each course at least 30 minutes prior to the scheduled first card out.  Ryan and I will be drafting pairings based on who is present or accounted for (known on their way) at that time. 

If a player is late for their start the following will occur:

Alternate shot doubles: A single player cannot alternate with themselves. Thus, the opposition will earn a concession on each hole played, from the team with a missing player, until the missing player arrives.
Best shot doubles: the player with a missing partner will play singles against best shot doubles until missing player arrives.
Singles: The opposition will earn a concession on each hole played, from the missing player, until the missing player arrives.

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Tournaments / Re: 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge
« on: May 09, 2013, 03:19:38 PM »
Kansas City Flying Disc Club
Team Championship

 
Purpose:
An annual KCFDC disc golf event to benefit the club and build local camaraderie around a team style competition.
The Event:
A matchplay points accumulation competition of three rounds over two days.  One round of alternate shot doubles (8 mtaches), one round of best shot doubles (8 matches) and one round of singles (16 matches). That means there are 32 points available.  The defending champion can retain the Team Trophy, if they obtain 16 or more points.  The challenger must score 16.5 points or more to take the Team Trophy away from the defending champion.  The winning team will get all their player's names put on the purpetual trophy.
The Players:
Teams will be comprised of 16 players (plus alternates) from their region, Kansas or Missouri, based on residency.  All players must be current KCFDC members and/or active members of the Kansas City area disc golf community. A ~50 mile radius from the conflux of the KS and MO rivers shall be used to determine the approximate region.
 
  • Each team will have a selected Captain
  • Each team will carry 11 unrestricted players.
  • Additionally, each team must carry at least 3 masters (40+) aged men and at least 2 women.
  • Each team is encouraged to carry up to 4 alternate players.
    • Alternate players may be used to play any round in place of any other player. However,  #2 and #3 must be maintained for the 16 players competing in the round.
    • Substitutions mid-round are not allowed
Host Team:
As an annual event, each side will alternate taking the status of Host Team.  Odd years (2013, 2015, etc.) will be hosted by the Missouri team.  Even years (2014, 2016, etc.) will be hosted by the Kansas team. Host Team status means this:  Choice of course to be played for the two Sunday rounds;  a round of best shot doubles (8 matches) and a round of singles (16 matches).  As such 24 points of the event are competed on the Host Teams home course.  The “guest team” hosts the round of alternate shot doubles on a course of their choice on Saturday.
Captains Responsibilies:
Each team captain will be repsonsible for the formation of his/her team through qualifiers and/or hand picks. The captains will also determine matchups as follows:
Prior to each doubles round, the captains will hold a snake style draft. The “home” team captain has the option to put out the first pairing, or defer, in which case the other captain is obligated to put out the first pairing.  Prior to the singles round the same will happen, except the team with the points lead after the first two rounds will get the option to pick or defer.  If there is a tie in points after the first two rounds, the home team gets the option.
Pairings and matchups are unrestricted.  That is to say, it is not required to put players of the same class together  or against each other.  For example. A master may be paired with an unrestricted player and they may be matched against a women and a master.  It is up to the captain to decide how they want their players paired/matched up.
The Competition:
In this championship, there are 32 matches played. Each match is worth a total of 1 point.  1 point to the winning team and 0 to the losing team or a half point to each team if the match winds up even (a tie). Each round has a different sub-format, but all are matchplay scored. Essentially, each hole is a mini game with one point available.  The team that finsihes the hole in the least strokes wins the hole. It's all or nothing on each hole.  There is no carry over, this is not skins play. Once it becomes mathematically impossible for one to team overcome the other, based on remaining holes (points), the match is over.
The three sub-formats played are as follows:
 
  • Alternate shot doubles: Start based on order on the card.  Each pairing decides who will drive on the odd holes and who will drive on the even holes.  After the drive, partners alternate shots until the hole is finished or conceded.   Rethrows/retees are done observing the alternating partners rule.
  • Best shot doubles: both players throw drives. Then they determine which of the two shots they want to play from and both throw from that lie. And so forth, until the hole is finished or conceded.
  • Singles: Each player competes 1vs1 playing each hole until it is finished or conceded.
Pairings will be sent off one card at a time from hole one at each round. Each doubles match will have its own card. 2 matches will be sent out on each singles card.
Remember, the defending champion needs only 16 points to retain the trophy. The challenger needs 16.5 points to win the trophy.

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Tournaments / 2013 Kansas City Team Challenge - June 1-2, 2013
« on: October 23, 2012, 04:34:35 PM »
Announcing the second annual Kansas City Team Challenge

Hosting rights will flip flop from East to West each year.  The "Host" team gets 2 rounds (24 points worth of matches) on the course of their captains choice. The other round (8 points worth of matches) is played on the opposing teams turf.  2012 version was slightly different, but allowed a first Host to be determined for this year.  By virtue of their win in 2012, the East side will be the host team for 2013. Host team will alternate each year.  2014 will be West hosted.  2015 will be East hosted etc. 

Date:
June 1st and 2nd

Format:
Teams of 16 players (plus alternates) from KS. and MO. each to compete in match play of three formats (alternate shot doubles, best shot doubles and singles). Each match will be worth one point. East Side can retain the Eagle trophy with 16 points or more. The West side has to get 16.5 points or more to win the trophy.

Where:
Wyco - afternoon of Saturday the June 1st, for 8 alternate shot doubles matches.
Cliff Drive, on Sunday, June 2nd for the 8 best shot doubles matches in the morning and 16 singles matches after lunch.

Who:
Captains:
MO - East Side - Ryan Keck
KS - West Side - Tracy Walker
Players:
To be determined!  Possibly a combination of spots obtained via qualifying or captains picks.  I'm leaving it up to the Captain of each side to determine how to build their team. I think we should stick with the 2 Women, 3 Masters (min.) and 11 Open players as required composition of each team.

Cost:
$25. Unless you already have an official team jersey for your side, in which case it is just $10. $10 to support tree planting at KC area courses.

I'll provide more details as Ryan and I determine how we're going to form our teams.  June will get here sooner than you think.

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